[00:05] <oerheks> big update https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-4.4.0
[00:06] <oerheks> https://snapcraft.io/darktable
[00:06] <oerheks> nice
[00:57] <morgan43> i TRIED FOUR WAYS AND NONE HAD file new. -- I copied an image and then wanted to put it in a file. mmm dont know how 22.04
[01:48] <grkblood13> I'm running Kubuntu 22.04 on dual monitors (one VGA and one display port). It has worked fine for as long as I can remember. Today I unplugged my vga monitor to plug into my laptop and when I plugged it back into my desktop my 1920x1080 resolution got downgraded to 1024x768 and I can't get it back.
[01:49] <grkblood13> this happened on my VGA monitor only. displayport one is still fine and I never unplugged that one.
[01:52] <mcc> Hello, slightly specific question. I am using GNOME on Ubuntu. I know I am using ibus. But I am filing a bug report, and I need to *prove* to the person I am filing the bug report with that I am using ibus. How could I test, in X or at the command line, to confirm that a particular application is using ibus (as opposed to xim or something else)?
[01:53] <guiverc> mcc, if you filed the bug report; your apport-collected data should provide details of what you're running (unless filed on a unspecific/unuseful package)
[01:56] <mcc> @guiverc Worse than that, I am filing on the Chromium bug tracker.
[01:56] <mcc> I don't know what Apport is. Could I use Apport to get a record I was using ibus?
[01:56] <mcc> Does Apport work on non-Ubuntu systems?
[01:57] <guiverc> apport will collect system details & file Ubuntu bug reports on launchpad
[01:58] <guiverc> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport
[01:58] <mcc> Thanks
[01:59] <mcc> If I type "apport" in a terminal window it says "command not found" and if I type "apport" in to the start menu search thing it also doesn't find anything… hm. Do I need to install it?
[01:59] <guiverc> If the bug occurs on Ubuntu, I'd suggest filing first using Ubuntu tools & launchpad (ie. bug report on Ubuntu), THEN file upstream as the ubuntu filed bug report can provide clues useful for the upstream bug report (most trackers allow linking with other bug trackers)
[02:00] <guiverc> try `apport` TAB TAB to list the available apport- commands
[02:00] <mcc> Now I see it. Thank you.
[02:00] <mcc> It is a Chrome-specific bug… when I launch Chrome in Wayland  and enter Compose key sequences, the builtin sequences work but my custom ones do not.
[02:00] <mcc> I don't know if it's linked to Ubuntu, and it's using Chrome downloaded from Google's website rather than from a Ubuntu repository.
[02:01] <guiverc> If chrome specific, filing on Ubuntu would alas make no sense as not a Ubuntu package (chrome & chromium aren't the same; chromium being upstreamn version)
[02:03] <mcc> Yes, I agree. This is why I am trying to get apport to print logs to a file or something instead of putting them on the bug server…
[02:04] <mcc> So, a related problem… I find that if there is an icon in the GNOME interface (the dash thing, or if I go in the start menu and search for something) I cannot get it to tell me "what it is".
[02:04] <mcc> For example, I go in the start menu, type "text" and it shows me Sublime Text and a program called "Text Editor".
[02:04] <mcc> I have no idea what "Text Editor" is. If I want to boot it from the command line I can't because I don't know its name, path, or anything.
[02:05] <mcc> Why this matters: I tried apport-cli -w. But it said it can't do window selection on Wayland and told me to enter a PID.
[02:05] <mcc> But I don't know the PID of the open Text Editor window. ps ux is very full of stuff. if I knew the name of the text editor process I could ps ux | grep but I don't know the name of the text editor process.
[02:05] <mcc> Kind of a general problem…
[02:07] <mcc> Also... hm:
[02:07] <mcc> mcc@Alita:~$ apport-cli --pid 8641 --save TEST
[02:07] <mcc> No pending crash reports. Try --help for more information.
[02:34] <migs> hello
[02:34] <migs> does anyone use the app copyq?
[02:35] <bywaterloo> not i
[02:41] <oerheks> migs,  yes, wayland compatible
[04:30] <Guest86> How do I change a custom icon of a desktop icon? I want to set a custom Icon for Firefox, using Lubuntu 22.04
[05:08] <David_Hedlund> How do I show this update icon in the panel?: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1149772/ubuntu-update-notifier-keeps-showing
[06:20] <barg> in the UK sometimes the timezone is GMT sometimes it's DST  .. how do I set the timezone to UK time?
[06:22] <Unit193> Select Europe/London or whatnot for your location?
[06:23] <barg> thanks i see it now sudo timedatectl set-timezone GB
[06:24] <Unit193> Heh, the way I normally do it is dpkg --reconfigure tzdata. :P
[06:32] <vershan> hello all I require assistance with a boo boo I have made. I have dural boot windows 10 and ubuntu 22.04. I installed an ubuntu grub theme. But now I cant boot into any of the OS's, just a blank scree after I select the OS from the new grub theme. I am currently chattign from the lice CD and reuqire assistance please
[06:47] <vershan> if someone can assist I messed up my grub bootloader, now im using the live CD to get assistance. this is the output https://pastebin.com/i0hhyQwM
[06:58] <trafficjam> is ubuntu core open source?
[07:18] <barg> according to https://gist.github.com/gartha1/a6d4a1b3b8ac637c3708d0115da99a30   i'm attached to two screens, (screen command), how is that possible?
[07:19] <ogra> trafficjam, most of it ... (we do ship i.e. nvidia drivers that are not opensource)
[07:19] <barg> i'm wondering how i can detach from them all, though not having much luck.. I tried screen<ENTER> then ctrl-a d  but it's not detaching from all
[07:31] <trafficjam> ogra: oh ok, so what parts are paid? if i have a large number of IoT devices that I want to be able to push OTA updates to, is that stuff free?
[09:43] <no_gravity> In "top", when a process has a "50" under "%CPU", does that mean it uses 50% of one CPU or 50% of all CPUs?
[11:33] <river> hello
[11:33] <river> how is DNS resolution and network configuration done in ubuntu?
[11:43] <ogra> river, depends what you use ... on desktop network-manager does it, on non gui systms it is netplan (see https://netpan.io)
[11:44] <river> i dont know what is used, it is a default install. is there a tool which can tell me exactly what systems and config files are being involved in my net configuration?
[11:45] <ogra> river, well, is this a desktop or a server install ?
[11:45] <river> server
[11:46] <ogra> then it is netplan ... go to netplan.io ... there is a link to documentation at the bottom of the page with tons f tutorials, examples and such
[11:46] <river> thank you
[11:46] <ogra> it is only one central config file you need to manage ...
[11:47] <river> is there a GUI for it?
[11:47] <ogra> i dont think so
[11:47] <river> alright
[11:51] <loose> doesn't netplan run on both desktop and non-gui systems, just with a different renderer (network-manager on desktop, systemd-networkd otherwise)?
[11:53] <ogra> loose, true ... but switching to the network-manager renderer eseentially means it hands off everything to NM ...
[11:53] <ogra> while without it it acts as a frontend to systemd-networkd
[11:54] <loose> ah, I see - that makes sense
[11:54] <loose> thanks :)
[11:59] <echoofyourvoice> i'm on the latest ubuntu LTS and have an issue with the snap store, it's constantly pestering me for an update (for itself, not any other app) but apt-get says everything is up to date, snap refresh says everything is up to date, and i can't update from the store itself since it keeps whining about running processes. checked the pid it's complaining about and it's just pointing to its own process. any ideas?
[12:01] <zaggynl> I'd have a look in the snapd log, journalctl -u snapd
[12:01] <zaggynl> that and restarting the snapd service maybe
[12:09] <echoofyourvoice> alright, it seems to have refreshed itself after i killed the process. should've tried that first. thank you!
[12:19] <frenchboy[m]> How can I check the kernel tcp state variables like cwnd?
[14:29] <ghostlyrics> Hey. What's the correct step to take when I suspect launchpad has a problem but I see no scheduled maintenances or status updates. (steps to repro available)
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> ghostlyrics: what the relation to ubuntu about your issue? and does it have a bug ID or something?
[14:32] <ghostlyrics> @lotuspsychje `add-apt-repository` fails due to the Canonical operated launchpad.net being properly found
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> ghostlyrics: could you pastebin the whole error log you getting, so volunteers can see whats it about?
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> !paste
[14:34] <ghostlyrics> here you go. I get the same behaviour locally as well as on a machine hosted in a different country. https://dpaste.com/BDHCCN4VQ
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> ghostlyrics: what i assume is a problem in the ansible ppa, when you try to add; root@1fb5e042f1d8:/# add-apt-repository --yes --update ppa:ansible/ansible
[14:39] <ghostlyrics> Gimme a moment, I'll try any other
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> ghostlyrics: can you install ansible from the ubuntu repos instead?
[14:42] <ghostlyrics> I can install Ansible from the official repositories. This is used in a CI build though and for that, the official versions in e.g. Jammy are too old.
[14:42] <ghostlyrics> I can *not* install another PPA either, I tried one of the ones from the frontpage: add-apt-repository ppa:joe-yasi/xorg-bionic # got me the same error
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> !info ansible jammy
[14:52] <ghostlyrics> @lotuspsychje do you have a docker-capable machine or VM around to test this? I have the suspicion that nobody can add a PPA at the moment
[14:52] <ghostlyrics> Just had a coworker verify who's not geographically close.
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> no cant test this right now ghostlyrics but with external ppa's the ubuntu volunteers cant help much , they have a git where you can file issues
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> ghostlyrics: If you face any issues while installing Ansible PPA, file an issue here:
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> https://github.com/ansible-community/ppa/issues
[14:54] <Teridon> can someone please tell me how to disable, via command-line/file edit,  the "Software Updater" GUI in focal?  I tried the solution here in 20auto-upgrades but the GUI still appeared https://linuxconfig.org/disable-automatic-updates-on-ubuntu-20-04-focal-fossa-linux
[14:54] <ghostlyrics> it's not an Ansible PPA issue
[14:54] <ghostlyrics> I think *nobody* can install *any* PPA right now.
[14:56] <jhutchins> Teridon: Without actually digging into it, I think it's running from a systemd scheduler.
[14:57] <jhutchins> Teridon: There should be an enable/disable toggle somewhere.
[14:57] <jhutchins> Teridon: You could also try purging the updater package, but that might have other complications.
[15:05] <ogra> ghostlyrics, you should perhaps just ask in #launchpad 😉
 I really should've checked if there was such a channel, THANK YOU!
[15:05] <ogra> ghostlyrics, though https://status.canonical.com/ does not show any issues currently
[15:20] <ppw> anyone know what would cause the GUI to shut down during an apt installation when running from a Live USB?
[15:21] <Oleg83> having 30 opened terminals, how to close all without clcking Close terminal confirmation window for each close
[15:22] <ppw> killall gnome-terminal
[15:25] <Oleg83> gnome-terminal: no process found
[15:26] <Oleg83> gnome-terminal is already the newest version (3.36.2-1ubuntu1~20.04).
[16:52] <eelstrebor> what is this nonsense of having to pay for security updates? (esm-apps)
[16:52] <ravage> !pro | eelstrebor
[16:53] <eelstrebor> ok. thanks
[16:55] <Oleg69> if i changed ctrl + c to copy, how to shut terminal?
[16:56] <ravage> type "exit"
[16:57] <Oleg69> im in my app there is not exit :)
[16:57] <Oleg69> need alternative shortcut or set control c to other combination
[16:58] <ravage> so revert your change
[16:58] <ravage> change
[16:58] <alprolife> hi, I try to modify hostname of my ubuntu but when I reboot the hostname is not changed, anyone can help me ? I tried hostnamectl set-hostname new.tld --static, I modify /etc/hostname and nothing
[16:59] <Oleg69> I need to copy ;)
[17:02] <Oleg69> if press up/down arrows getting this ^[[A^[[1;2D^[[B^[[A in terminal (application)
[17:02] <Oleg69> how to fix it?\
[17:08] <rfm> Oleg69, that's your application, which seems not to be configured to recognize the arrow-key escape sequences
[17:11] <Oleg69> nope, its just terminal, same on Windows works well
[17:11] <Oleg69> browse previous command with arrow, standard terminal function
[17:13] <rfm> Oleg69, only if your application reads from a terminal using a library  that handles it.  (readline is the most common.)
[17:17] <rfm> Oleg69, and the usual way to do copy in a terminal is to use shift-ctrl-c for copy, leaving ctrl-c to be interrupt.  ubuntu and xubuntu terminals are set that way by default
[17:17] <Oleg69> Is there a way to use control c for copy and control shift c to interrupt?
[17:21] <rfm> Oleg69, wouldn't think so, since ctrl-shift-c is a a window-system input and interrupt is handled in the tty driver which just gets 8-bit tytes
[17:23] <Oleg69> ok, is there possibility to change interrup hot key to control shift + c?
[17:27] <rfm> Oleg69, I doubt it.  certainly isn;t listed in the gnome terminal shortcuts,
[18:49] <Oleg40> how to kill all terminal proceses?
[18:56] <sarnold> Oleg40: what's your goal?
[19:12] <Oleg40> i have 30 terminal opened with IDE
[19:12] <Oleg40> need to shut them in once using terminal command
[19:12] <Oleg40> at*
[19:15] <sarnold> Oleg40: check all the processes you have running with 'ps auxw'  -- hopefully your terminal processes will all be one specific name; if they are, try: 'killall ide-term'  hopefully your IDE tolerates that well, and keeps running. it might be very unhappy about it.
[19:18] <Oleg40> that beautiful, thank you
[19:19] <Oleg40> can I narrow output to terminal processes?
[19:20] <Oleg40> user+   60135  0.0  0.0   5888  1512 pts/10   Ss   15:49   0:00 /home/user/Qt/Tools/QtCreator/bin/../libexec/qtcreator/qtcre
[19:20] <Oleg40> I have 30 lines like these, how to grab it all and kill
[19:23] <Teridon> I'm using Ubuntu 20 with GNOME classic.  I want the Terminal to appear in Favorites.  I copied the desktop file from /usr/share/applications/org.gnome.Terminal.desktop to /usr/share/applications/gnome-terminal.desktop because of a known bug on *RHEL* and that fix works there -- but that doesn't appear to work on Ubuntu
[19:32] <Teridon> If I login to the standard "Ubuntu" (GNOME 3 ) shell , then add Terminal to my Favorites, it does appear in my Favorites in Gnome classic as well.  But I what I really want is for every user of that system to have it in their Favorites (in both Ubuntu and Classic shells)
[19:33] <Teridon> ah, just found this and will try it:  https://help.gnome.org/admin/system-admin-guide/stable/desktop-favorite-applications.html.en
[19:39] <webchat81> Hi, I think I found a bug/regression with the ubuntu server 23.04 riscv64 Nezha/Sipeed images. Somehow the cpu speed on my mangopi mq pro seems to have decreased by 2.7x compared to the 22.10 image.
[19:39] <webchat81> The Allwinner D1 should run at 1Ghz, and execute a single add per cycle. On 22.10 I was able to confirm that executing `1024*1024*1024` add instructions took roughly a second, but on 23.04 it took 2.7 seconds (both fresh installs, with the same code).
[19:39] <webchat81> I also binary patched the opensbi image after, to disable mcountinhibit for rdcycle, and confirmed that even the hardware cycle counter was slower than 1Ghz. One second had 410398820 cycles instead of something closer to the expected 1073741824.
[19:39] <webchat81> How do I properly file a bug report for this? All info I can find on reporting bugs, requires some sort of crash to happen.
[19:45] <sarnold> webchat81: on a first guess, that feels like it might be kernel security mitigations; try booting with mitigations=off kernel command line, and see if my guess is right
[19:52] <tomreyn> !bug | webchat81: If you would like to file a bug after testing the above
[19:58] <webchat81> sarnold I just tired that and it didn't change anything. (I added `mitigations=off` to `GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT` in `/etc/default/grub` and rebooted)
[20:01] <sarnold> webchat81: did you regenerate the grub configuration before that reboot?
[20:01] <sarnold> webchat81: check /proc/cmdline -- that should tell you if it made it through
[20:01] <webchat81> oh, yes I also did grub-update
[20:02] <webchat81> ah, but it didn't make it through apparently
[20:04] <sarnold> webchat81: I know next to nothing about riscv64; do they really go through grub? I think I would have expected something more like arm devices
[20:06] <webchat81> I don't know the output of `/proc/cmdline` matched `/boot/grub/grub.cfg`, so I'm modifying it directly now, maybe that works
[20:08] <webchat81> alright, that worked, now `/proc/cmdline` includes `mitigations=off`, but it didn't change the slowdown.
[20:09] <webchat81> tomreyn right, but I don't know what package to blame, and when I tried `ubuntu-bug linux` it mentioned something about a non existing crash. I also didn't see any way to add the relevant information to the report, and I didn't click submit because I didn't want to create a useless/wrong issue.
[20:10] <sarnold> webchat81: don't worry about the non-existing crash, that's getting you to the right place to report the bug, with a few automatically attached logs and such
[20:11] <tomreyn> ^^ and i guess "linux" is the right package until we know better.
[20:15] <tomreyn> re-assigning bug reports to other packages later is easily possible (though you might need to collect logs again then), and so is invalidating bug reports which turn out to be wrong, if you need to.
[20:15] <webchat81> ah, ok this works, now it asks for further information. thanks
[20:24] <morgan-u2> change "image viewer" so I can rename the file. (I take a screenshot, it says open in FILES {it does not} but it opens in imageviewer. Oh so wrong in so many ways. How do I Where do I submit this suggestion more effectively than here?
[20:24] <ppw> anyone know what would cause the GUI to shut down during an apt installation when running from a Live USB?
[20:26] <oerheks> ppw, care to share which package?
[20:26] <ppw> wine32
[20:27] <sarnold> ppw: wild guess, replacing dbus or systemd would be my first candidates; do the /var/log/dpkg* or /var/log/apt/* logs say which packages had been installed just before falling over?
[20:27] <oerheks> wine32 on an 64 bit live iso. interesting
[20:27] <oerheks> lolz
[20:27] <ppw> no, the entire thing crashed back to the splash screen, I had to force power off.
[20:28] <ppw> /var/log/apt didn't get retained on the usb stick.
[20:28] <sarnold> ah, you hadn't done a chroot to the system?
[20:29] <ppw> I just booted off of the stick.
[20:29] <ppw> no separate installation on the hard drive.
[20:30] <ppw> but I do notice that /dev/sdb4 is mounted on /var/log
[20:30] <ppw> this is interesting and now I wonder why there are no logs
[20:31] <sarnold> ppw: ah :( well ... if it was 'entirely live', and not working on existing state, *maybe* we'd be lucky enuogh for it to be reproducible?
[20:32] <oerheks> 4 gb memory would not be enough
[20:32] <ppw> that would make sense. I only have a 2.6 writable partition on /dev/sdb4.
[20:33] <ppw> 2.6 gb
[20:33] <oerheks> no workmemory
[20:33] <ppw> I have 8 gb of memory on this laptop
[20:41] <pjstirling123> Hi, I installed 22.04 on my new laptop and I only have dummy audio, according to settings/sound, can anyone help me resolve this?
[20:49] <tomreyn> pjstirling123: you can install "alsa-utils" (if not already installed) and run   sudo alsa-info    and upload its output, to get more targetted support.
[20:50] <tomreyn> pjstirling123: won't be me, though, i'm about to head out.
[21:51] <pjstirling123> Hi, I installed 22.04 on my new laptop and I only have dummy audio, according to settings/sound, can anyone help me resolve this? My also-info link is http://alsa-project.org/db/?f=1c65e35e56cff12f8a2fd5b47d502bfd864e54fa
[21:53] <oerheks> 00:1f.3 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:4dc8] (rev 01)
[21:54] <oerheks> so you do have a card, just not detected
[21:58] <oerheks> pjstirling123, a jasper lake issue, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1864871
[21:58] <oerheks> https://forums.rockylinux.org/t/no-sound-on-the-laptop-in-rl9-1-with-the-intel-jasper-lake-hd-audio/8543/5
[21:58] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1864871 in linux-signed-hwe-5.8 (Ubuntu) "Failed to init Intel [8086:02c8] sound card in 20.04" [Undecided, Confirmed]
[21:58] <oerheks> fix seems to be
[21:58] <oerheks> ‘snd_hda_intel.dmic_detect=0’ to the grub start line.
[22:01] <oerheks> also, different answer, interesting https://askubuntu.com/questions/1251705/no-sound-20-04-with-intel-corporation-device-02c8
[22:01] <oerheks> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="snd-intel-dspcfg.dsp_driver=1"
[22:01] <oerheks> whatever works, add it to the bug/1864871
[22:03] <oerheks> also related https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/701751
[22:15] <pjstirling123> Oerheks: neither of those seemed to work 😞 I'll come back tomorrow
[22:15] <pjstirling123> Oerheks: neither of those seemed to work 😞 I'll come back tomorrow
[23:21] <ppw> sarnold: how do you create a ubuntu live usb stick that saves changes to the operating system back to the stick?
[23:22] <jeremy31> ppw: Depends on what changes you want saved
[23:22] <ppw> sudo apt upgrade, for instance
[23:23] <jeremy31> ppw: A kernel update isn't possible even with persistence
[23:23] <jeremy31> You would need s full install to USB stick
[23:23] <ppw> how do I do this
[23:24] <sarnold> I wonder if you could 'just' install it to a USB stick? I can't figure out why that wouldn't work, anyway..
[23:25] <ppw> oh .. hm .. maybe