[00:20] <u8353v[m]> **Is NTFS truly Read and Write file system within Linux?**
[00:20] <u8353v[m]> I heard it looses Linux permissions on disconnecting external drive. But all i want to know is that the data written on it is persistent. For me that's enough!
[00:20] <u8353v[m]> I know between (linux distros and android), ext4 preserves linux permissions!
[00:25] <sarnold> u8353v[m]: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/filesystems/ntfs3.rst
[02:33] <Varro> Hi... can I use multiple GPUs? I just plugged in my old GPU along with the new one, but I don't see performance increase
[02:33] <AlexC> ?
[02:33] <rbox> its not going to effect performance
[02:33] <AlexC> and you will never see
[02:33] <rbox> just plugging in multiple gpus
[02:33] <AlexC> :>
[02:34] <Varro> Can't I use multiple GPUs together?
[02:34] <Varro> I have 2 PCI sockets on the motherboard
[02:35] <Varro> And both GPUs are of the same brand nVidia
[02:36] <Varro> Is it true for all OS then? Not specific to Ubuntu that I can't use multiple GPUs?
[02:38] <AlexC> wtf lol..
[02:38] <AlexC> not specific to ubunti
[02:38] <AlexC> ubuntu* rather
[02:38] <AlexC> you can use multiple gpu's but not on a same task, you have to allocate the resources to it
[02:38] <AlexC> for example obs can leverage that
[02:38] <AlexC> game on 1 gpu
[02:39] <AlexC> encode on the other one
[02:39] <AlexC> so obviously you cannot gain any performance there, just the encoding loss, so some more fps ingame probably.
[03:13] <ppw> sarnold: hah - I did it! I have a full Ubuntu install on a USB stick. this is ridiculous :D
[04:45] <hello> hai
[06:01] <BitShift-> Good morning.  This channel is dead, is anyone awake? (and don't get snarky and say "no", there's no just warranted call for snarkiness)
[06:03] <respawn> BitShift-: this is ubuntu help channel if you need help with ubuntu issue ask here
[06:03] <respawn> BitShift-: for general chat #ubuntu-offtopic right click join
[06:04] <BitShift-> Thank you for being courteous.  That is more than can say for other lousy channels on this network
[06:04] <ooberbanana> i'm awake
[06:04] <BitShift-> respawn: Yes, I'm aware this is a help channel, thank you, I plan on asking a question, but I was testing to waters to see if anybody was awake, put simply.
[06:05] <respawn> diferent timezones
[06:05] <ooberbanana> well, I don't know how knowledgable i would be
[06:06] <ooberbanana> plus  im too lazy to use the shift keylol
[06:06] <maya329> Usually we just ask the question and if anyone is around and is knowledgeable on the topic will reply. Don't worry.
[06:06] <ooberbanana> mkay
[06:08] <ooberbanana> I took a class one time on LINUX.... EDX i think...  it was free, for a time. Is there somewhere better or cheaper.   You probably learn more from people here anyway.
[06:09] <ooberbanana> there was a ? in the somewhere
[06:10] <BitShift-> OK, here goes with my question:  I've used PC's my whole life.  Running LinMint on an Apple Mac Pro 2010.  Kudos goes to the Ubuntu, Mint, and other teams for providing support where M$ lacks, meaning, more of seemless transition.  In the process I found the network drivers (Broadcom, I can swear) to be shoddy.  Hereindefined as not supporting my 500megabits/down connection, but on my one my Lin-Intel PC's, i'm getting proper speeds.  Damn CRAPple
[06:10] <BitShift-> hardware is so closed-source that it's difficult for those who want to help, to actually writing completely functioning drivers.  It could be argued "WHY don't you just put an older version of MacOS on it? -- I am going to do it, and SELL IT.  I cannot stand Apple's non-standard hardware, even though this "logic board" (motherboard) is almost as PC as it gets.  It's still not the same.  I'm not expecting many will have my experience because most hate
[06:10] <BitShift-> Mac's.  In conclusion, MacOS is not that bad at all for security.  We both know it's built upon a heavily modified FreeBSD base, with Networking code taken from OpenBSD
[06:12] <BitShift-> ooberbanana: I've found it's easiest to learn from like-minded people.  The problem is, there's so much nasty attitude that's existed on various IRC's for years, that one either listens to abuse, or leaves.  There's better methods--Forum Boards, Youtube videos, and free online classes from Coursera, I've found.  I hope this helps.
[07:21] <river> where can i learn a course on all the details of netplan and ubuntu network configuration please?
[07:21] <river> i would like to understand it in depth
[07:25] <Jakov> can you please tell me if there is no issue or there is a problem with my temperature?
[07:25] <Jakov> here is ubuntu sensor app output
[07:25] <Jakov> https://ctxt.io/2/AABQ-PCsEg
[07:26] <toddc> river: https://netplan.io/
[07:27] <toddc> river: also yu can type in a terminal man netplan for samples and commands
[07:29] <Jakov> it was perfectly good on Windows, just moved to ubuntu and it seem to be overheating with no reason
[07:33] <toddc> Jakov: not my area but all look below max is the fans running at max or other issues? I use lm-sensors and stress to test my servers back a few years ago
[07:34] <toddc> I found that running my cpu at max load caused a over heat that i fixed with a bigger cpu cooler and fan setup
[07:46] <Jakov> it must be programm
[07:47] <Jakov> is there hardware forum Like stack over flow I can ask question?
[07:47] <Jakov> please give some recommend
[07:47] <river> there is a ubuntu stackexchange
[07:47] <river> https://askubuntu.com/
[08:20] <Jakov> sudo update-rc.d other_governor enable
[08:20] <Jakov> update-rc.d: error: cannot find a LSB script for ondemand
[08:20] <Jakov> how to fix?
[08:40] <Jakov> how to sudo update-rc.d ondemand disable  on Ubuntu 20?
[08:40] <Jakov> update-rc.d: error: cannot find a LSB script for ondemand
[08:41] <XorMan> hello, is it the right practice to create an efi partition of about 100mb at the beginning of the drive, and then select this as the bootloader partition during Ubuntu installation?
[08:47] <alkisg> XorMan: no it isn't. First, create a bigger partition, e.g. 500 MB to accomodate the future when the kernel and initrd will land there. And, it can't be mounted as /boot in ubuntu; it's mounted as /boot/efi
[08:52] <XorMan> alkisg, so, in efi-layman's terms, I select "/" for bootloader, and create 500mb partition for efi at the beginning of drive. Is that correct and sufficient?
[08:54] <XorMan> dont see when this got so complicated. what the hell is this efi thing
[08:54] <XorMan> I feel like I am in 2000s
[08:55] <alkisg> XorMan: eh, all OSes got upgraded, it was time to upgrade the BIOS too, to UEFI
[08:55] <alkisg> If you're using ext4, yeah no need for a separate boot loader, put everything in / as you said
[08:56] <alkisg> XorMan: why don't you just use the automated partitioner, and let it do what it wants?
[08:57] <XorMan> I am using ext4, but when I dont select efi, I cant proceed. I am asked to select one
[08:57] <alkisg> The automatic procedure selects efi+ext4, so you don't need to specify anything manually
[08:57] <cbreak> XorMan: do you start from a fresh / empty SSD / Hard Disk?
[08:57] <alkisg> Btw, are you sure you're booted in UEFI mode?
[08:57] <cbreak> or from a system with existing partitions?
[08:58] <alkisg> sudo ls /sys/firmware/efi
[08:58] <XorMan> I am not sure where the automated partitioner is selected, but I am installing on a flash drive with a usb installer.
[08:58] <alkisg> XorMan: you should mention these things first :)
[08:59] <alkisg> XorMan: by default then, your internal efi partition will be used
[08:59] <XorMan> sorry, did not know they would be relevant
[08:59] <alkisg> While if you want the installation to be on the flash completely, it needs to be selected manually, yeah
[08:59] <XorMan> internal efi meaning the computer's bios/efi settings?
[08:59] <alkisg> Anyway I can see you're already discussing about this in #linux, no point to discuss it twice
[08:59] <XorMan> yes, only on flash
[08:59] <alkisg> The internal hard disk efi partition
[09:00] <cbreak> In my experience, ubuntu's installer is absolutely unusable if you have more than one efi partition, it might pick the wrong one, even if you select the correct one.
[09:00] <cbreak> but you will need an efi partition if you want to use efi booting
[09:00] <cbreak> the default partitioning will create one
[09:00] <XorMan> no, no, essentially I am discussing it here now, and getting more information here, too
[09:01] <cbreak> XorMan: UEFI is a firmware standard, used in most desktop systems. It replaces the old BIOS. It includes among other things rules on how booting works.
[09:02] <cbreak> instead of having a boot sector like in the old days, there's a boot partition / efi partition, which contains boot loaders
[09:02] <XorMan> and it turns a simple installation to rocket science.
[09:02] <cbreak> ubuntu will by default use GRUB
[09:02] <cbreak> this simplifies installation a lot compared to how it was in the past
[09:02] <cbreak> since you can just copy the boot loader onto the partition, instead of having to deal with raw sectors
[09:03]  * XorMan cant find words to express disagreement.
[09:03] <cbreak> and you can easily have multiple boot loaders, like grub, refind, the one from windows, ...
[09:03] <cbreak> or even multiple linux boot loaders
[09:03] <XorMan> anyway :) how can i install ubuntu on a drive?
[09:03] <XorMan> if it is that simple, it must be very simple to explain, too
[09:03] <cbreak> the easy-mode partitioning should work, IF you chose to erase the whole disk
[09:04] <cbreak> https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-desktop#6-type-of-installation // does it look like this for you?
[09:11] <XorMan> sorry, terminology-laden guidance does not make it simpler for me. I need to know what I should do after I select "something else" and get directed to the window with all my partitions, namely, sda (computer disk), sdb (ubuntu installer usb) and sdc (the target flsah drive to install ubuntu on). What I did was, to select, say, 100gb for ubuntu on sdc1, and 1gb for swap on sdc2, and 100mb for efi on sdc3. And then, in different
[09:11] <XorMan> trials, I selected '/' and 'sdc3' as the device for bootloader installation, and neither worked, giving the same error "unable to install GRUB in /dev/sdc3. Executing 'grub-install/dev/sdc3 failed. This is a fatal error'.
[09:11] <XorMan> What do i need to do differently where?
[09:12] <cbreak> why "something else" and not "erase disk"?
[09:13] <XorMan> cbreak, because i am installing on a flash drive. I guess 'erase disk' is for hard drive of the computer, no?
[09:13] <cbreak> it should work for any disk
[09:13] <cbreak> (just make sure you select the right one. /dev/sdc in your case presumably)
[09:14] <XorMan> I dont know. I never erased disk, sounds risky.
[09:14] <cbreak> you'll lose all data on that disk
[09:14] <alkisg> XorMan: the easiest way to describe it quickly and do it safely, is "remove the other disks temporarily and select "auto" in the installer
[09:14] <XorMan> sorry, my bad. I mean '/dev/sdc' not '/'
[09:15] <cbreak> if you want to partition manually, that's possible, but you have to know what you're doing.
[09:16] <XorMan> yes, because everything is made idiotically harder instead of simpler, it is also a daunting task to remove hard drive, which is not screwed out of the computer as it could earlier, but I need to remove a dozen screws under the computer.
[09:16] <cbreak> having a large partition for / is reasonable, a separate swap can make sense, and an efi partition is essential, but still, you have to get the filesystems right too
[09:16] <cbreak> I don't see why you'd make it harder on yourself though
[09:17] <cbreak> you are aware that "something else" / manual mode also erases the disk, right?
[09:17] <XorMan> in all my years of linux use, I wouldn't think of wrestling to install ubuntu :)
[09:18] <XorMan> cbreak, no, it doesn't. why should it? it is allowing me to select what to do.
[09:18] <alkisg> XorMan: it's not related to the operating system
[09:18] <XorMan> alkisg, I agree, but you know what I mean
[09:18] <alkisg> It's how UEFI works. And in the past, if you wanted to boot from the second disk, you'd need to install the boot manager in the first disk
[09:18] <cbreak> XorMan: it should because partitioning will erase the disk. That's what it partitioning does.
[09:19] <alkisg> So you're complaining for no reason, apart from "why the ubuntu installer doesn't support my special case, where I want a separate efi partition"
[09:19] <XorMan> yes, but I let it erase the target flash drive. it doesnt touch anywhere else
[09:19] <cbreak> so?
[09:19] <cbreak> that's what the easy mode does too, if you select that drive...
[09:19] <cbreak> just that with easy mode, you don't have to do all the details
[09:21] <XorMan> I dont even see any easy mode
[09:22] <XorMan> debian used to be imagined complex, but I think Debian 12 is peanuts to install compared to ubuntu now. I dont have the same problem there
[09:23] <cbreak> does your installer look like the one in the documentation I linked to?
[09:23] <alkisg> OK that's plain trolling now, I give up
[09:23] <cbreak> if it does, then "Erase Disk and install ubuntu" is easy mode
[09:25] <XorMan> alkisg, I suppose you are free to maintain that view of my comment subjectively.
[09:26] <XorMan> alkisg, I laid out before that terminology would not be helpful, and made a long post above to clarify what I needed. still I did not hear a helpful 'you need to do this and not that' yet.
[09:27] <alkisg> XorMan: which of my sentences was "terminology"? Anyway no point in trying more, you obviously just want to put out some steam, and I'm not in a mood to listen to that
[09:30] <cbreak> just in case you're interested (and you should not be interested): This is how you can install ubuntu the really hard way: https://openzfs.github.io/openzfs-docs/Getting%20Started/Ubuntu/Ubuntu%2022.04%20Root%20on%20ZFS.html :)
[09:30] <XorMan> alkisg, yes, you advised at one place to remove all disks, but I wrote it would be cumbersome.
[09:30] <cbreak> (that's basically the way I did it)
[09:32] <XorMan> cbreak, no. I will give it one more try, and if fails again, destination Debian 12.
[09:33] <XorMan> but thank you all for your time and every word. I do appreciate that you've cared.
[09:34] <cbreak> heh
[09:34] <cbreak> debian's probably harder :)
[09:34] <XorMan> As I wrote before, this is by no means true.
[09:35] <cbreak> it is
[09:35] <cbreak> ubuntu has actually tried to make the installer easy
[09:35]  * XorMan thanks cbreak for making him smile.
[09:35] <cbreak> your problem is that you're not using easy mode
[09:35] <cbreak> but that's your problem, not ubuntu's
[09:38] <XorMan> just occurred to me, can it be that this 'easy mode' has been added in the more recent ubuntu versions?
[09:38] <XorMan> which may be the reason I dont have it
[09:38] <cbreak> I think they always had something similar for the past decade or so
[09:38] <cbreak> obviously it's not called easy mode
[09:39] <cbreak> as I said a few times before
[09:39] <cbreak> it's the "erase whole disk" mode
[09:41] <XorMan> my installer interface is to some degree different from the one on your linked page. But I have 'erase disk and install ubuntu'. Probably same/similar set of options but in different order or placement.#
[09:42] <cbreak> I'd expect the later options to be more advanced and give more control
[09:42] <cbreak> and the "erase the whole disk" option to be simpler since you can / have to chose less
[10:29] <XorMan> the said last trial worked, when efi was created as the first partition on disk.
[10:47] <XorMan> I installed ubuntu, but cant install curl, no installation candidate. also with snap.
[10:48] <XorMan> oh, no, please ignore.
[11:26] <XorMan> how can I install git on ubuntu?
[11:26] <XorMan> it has no installation candidate
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> !git | XorMan
[11:28] <XorMan> hmm, yes, and I normally can install it
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> XorMan: sudo apt install git
[11:31] <XorMan> didnt work
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> errors?
[11:31] <XorMan> I get the above message
[11:31] <XorMan> no install candidate
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> your ubuntu release XorMan ?
[11:32] <XorMan> 21.10
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> XorMan: 21.10 is end of life by now, use a supported version from this channels topic
[11:33] <XorMan> can I directly upgrade it to any of the alive versions?
[11:34] <XorMan> full-upgrade, dist-upgrade..?
[11:34] <cbreak> !eol
[11:34] <cbreak> XorMan: you're better off installing fresh
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> XorMan: i wouldnt advice to upgrade from an eol version, specialy if its been a while eol
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> for security reasons
[11:34] <cbreak> 21.10 is not an LTS, it has 9 months of time from release, so it is supported until 22.07 or so
[11:35] <cbreak> you should either install 22.04 or 23.04, the former is LTS
[11:35] <XorMan> I see. now that I have no more installation issues, I think I can do that quick :)
[11:36] <cbreak> do you want a stable system, or one with newer software?
[11:36] <cbreak> (stable as in not changing a lot)
[11:36] <XorMan> I think newer is a hunch better here, so 23.04. should be fine
[11:38] <XorMan> is this the reason why I cant install git and a few other packages that I havent mentioned?
[11:39] <XorMan> (which are shown as apt-installable on online posts)
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> XorMan: when an ubuntu release goes eol, apt wont work properly neither
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> aka not supported anymore
[11:39] <cbreak> XorMan: each ubuntu release has its own repositories to download software from
[11:39] <cbreak> unsupported release repositories usually don't stay up
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> ^
[11:39] <cbreak> but teh links the ubottu thing posted give options to work around this, to upgrade, in some situations
[11:44] <XorMan> cbreak, thank you for pointing me to this possibility, but since it is already a new install, I think I can just 'clean' install it again, rather than dealing with eventual messes :)
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> XorMan: a great approach is to upgrade before the release goes eol, perhaps a future idea to remember
[11:56] <XorMan> lotuspsyche, it was just convenient to use an iso that was lying about in the homedir :)
[11:56] <XorMan> but I know better now :)
[12:36] <XorMan> I am connecting to network to install ubuntu and it still wants me to connect. the right upper corner shows it connected, too. Also installation failed already once, with no way to quit and start again. I had to restart ubuntu. The installer looks pretty crappy.
[12:39] <XorMan> ok, think it is installing now.
[12:58] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:05] <nero_> hello
[13:33] <XorMan> installation failed again.
[13:41] <XorMan> most possibly failed in the efi-partition-mount point triangle.
[13:43] <XorMan> in the new interface, there is no efi partition selection. I select the partition and go 'leave unformatted' and it is auto-named as efi. And then I select /boot as mount point. After these there is a small MB partition and 1gb another partition named as /boot/efi. the third partition is ext4 with mount point /, where the OS will be installed.
[13:44] <EriC^^> XorMan: you want /boot/efi as the efi partition
[13:45] <XorMan> yes, that is what I see
[13:45] <EriC^^> what's the exact error you're getting during the installation? you could always launch the installer with "ubiquity -b" so it skips the bootloader installation and then manually chroot in and install grub
[13:47] <XorMan> I am pasting it in a min.
[13:48] <XorMan> https://paste.debian.net/hidden/d19cbfc4
[14:46] <XorMan> ok that was it with ubuntu-
[15:03] <cbreak> unshare? Hmm...
[15:03] <cbreak> doesn't look efi related at all
[16:17] <Jakov> how to set terminal open location to choosen x,y?
[16:17] <WeeBey> hi frens. I'm adding additional encrypted storage and wanted to confirm my setup. My fstab has the line: "/dev/mapper/Storage     /mnt/Storage    ext4    defaults 0 0" and /etc/crypttab has "Storage /dev/nvme1n1    none"  Is this OK or should it use the UUID ?
[16:43] <Jakov> need to make paste with some code lines using short cuts, used QuickPaste on Windows, worked really good
[16:43] <Jakov> any good alternative here?
[16:43] <Jakov> https://quicktextpaste.en.uptodown.com/windows
[16:53] <Guest75> I'm trying to follow this https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/how-do-i-set-the-clock-format-to-show-date-above-the-time-in-20-04/23044 to get the old functionality of date/time on the panel bar. but I'm not able to remove the existing time without removing everything else (bluetooth, network, power, etc)
[16:56] <Guest75> ...it's as if the applet is a "set", instead of individual items.
[18:28] <anga> sup!
[20:14] <Guest85> Hey guys, I'm trying to create a persistant live USB, so I can have a fully operating OS on a USB, how do i do this on linux ubuntu 22.04? If I was running windows I could use Rufus which has a "persistence" option. Ideas?
[20:15] <oerheks> !usb
[20:16] <oerheks> rufus is an option for linux too
[20:17] <oerheks> and you are limited with live iso, one can install stuff but it is not meant to run like that.
[20:17] <Guest85> Hmmmm
[20:17] <Guest85> Can I just do a full OS install onto the USB
[20:17] <oerheks> sure, 64 gb would do
[20:27] <lupooo> hi
[20:29] <Guest85> hey
[20:31] <jhutchins> Guest3717: You can build a live image that includes whatever software you need.
[20:31] <lubuntu> sex
[20:31] <jhutchins> https://www.pendrivelinux.com/  <- lots of info on building a custom image.
[20:31] <lubuntu> k
[21:56] <andy> hello
[21:56] <andy> anyone here
[22:00] <ppw> no
[23:13] <Varro> Hi I just installed a new GPU, what are some graphics heavy linux / ubuntu games I can play to test it?
[23:36] <mybalzitch> just use steam w/ emulation
[23:37] <rbox> or just use steam with native games
[23:38] <AlaHiaF> NVIDIA GeForce NOW
[23:39] <mybalzitch> when is now
[23:42] <rbox> soon
[23:43] <AlaHiaF> Yup, sit tight..
[23:43] <Varro> What kind of games? Like Elden Ring?
[23:43] <mybalzitch> gtav?
[23:43] <mybalzitch> what gpu, what resolution screen
[23:44] <mybalzitch> rbox: glad you got it
[23:44] <sotaoverride> gtav we can play on ubuntu?
[23:44] <Varro> 3090 GPU?
[23:44] <krzx_> can anyone tell me why my pi and desktop get such different wifi reception and theyre sitting in the same spot. https://postimg.cc/z3b4tfJh
[23:44] <mybalzitch> sotaoverride: pretty sure it plays just fine under proton/steam, yep
[23:44] <Varro> Yeah of course
[23:44] <krzx_> theres a side by side pic of wavemon running on both machines
[23:44] <mybalzitch> krzx_: wild guess: antenna quality
[23:44] <Varro> The only games you can't play are Destiny
[23:45] <mybalzitch> also 2.4 vs 5ghz
[23:45] <Varro> possibly one or two more that don't want to support Linux out of malice
[23:45] <rbox> krzx_: because the wifi controller on the pi isn't as good as the one in your desktop
[23:45] <sotaoverride> do we play them using a vm or something?
[23:45] <krzx_> no no
[23:45] <Varro> sotaoverride: for me it plays natively
[23:45] <krzx_> the pi is doing better than the desktop thats what im saying
[23:45] <Varro> better performance than windows even
[23:45] <mybalzitch> and the pi is on 2.4ghz. 2.4 has better penetration
[23:45] <Varro> on some of the games i tested, e.g. Dirt Rally 2
[23:45] <mybalzitch> tx rate is also *vastly* different
[23:46] <sotaoverride> let me check that out. didnt know we could play gtav in ubuntu. I have an amd with builtin gpu
[23:46] <rbox> krzx_: then the wifi controller on the pi is better
[23:46] <mybalzitch> bleach can signal at almost 10x the speed the pi can
[23:46] <sotaoverride> notsure if id have enough gpu for gtav
[23:46] <krzx_> well the desktop (bleach) doesnt have an antenna
[23:47] <krzx_> the chip is inside
[23:47] <krzx_> Client: HexChat 2.14.3 • OS: Ubuntu "focal" 20.04 • CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 6-Core Processor (2.20GHz) • Memory: 15.2 GiB Total (10.8 GiB Free) • Storage: 233.1 GB / 239.3 GB (6.2 GB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Baffin [Radeon RX 550 640SP / RX 560/560X] @ Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Starship/Matisse PCIe Dummy Host Bridge • Uptime: 1d 7h 38m 23s
[23:47] <krzx_> bleach ^
[23:47] <mybalzitch> okay agian, 2.4 vs 5ghz wifi
[23:47] <Varro> mybalzitch: [what gpu, what resolution] - RTX 3090, any resolution
[23:47] <Varro> I have 2 monitors
[23:47] <mybalzitch> and the signalling rates are entirely different
[23:47] <Varro> if that matters
[23:48] <krzx_> i really feel like my desktop wifi is not performing well at all at times
[23:48] <mybalzitch> Varro: do you own star citizen? I think that runs under lutris
[23:48] <sotaoverride> clicks on touch pad on my dell laptop randomly quit working
[23:48] <mybalzitch> krzx_: then force 2.4ghz
[23:49] <Varro> No I wanted to get it though. I have the other one, what is it called...
[23:49] <Varro> Elite Dangerous
[23:49] <mybalzitch> that might work, see if the stream deck supports it. if so, it'll work
[23:49] <krzx_> how do i do that
[23:50] <Varro> You mean "if the Steam Deck supports it" to check if it works on Linux?
[23:50] <Varro> It definitely works
[23:50] <Varro> Every game I have works on Linux with native performance (except Destiny)
[23:51] <mybalzitch> https://www.protondb.com/app/359320
[23:51] <Varro> ^ Nice
[23:52] <Varro> Is Star Citizen single player?
[23:52] <mybalzitch> it'll eventually be a mmo
[23:52] <mybalzitch> but its a massive WIP bit of vaporware
[23:53] <mybalzitch> that seems to exist solely as a demonstration of feature creep
[23:53] <Varro> I've been lately playing Colt Canyon very nice, and some Hades super nice
[23:53] <Varro> but they don't tax the GPU, and I wanted to test out the new GPU
[23:53] <mybalzitch> yeah hades runs really nice for me under steam on linux
[23:53] <Varro> May be I'll get Star Citizen then
[23:53] <mybalzitch> no, don't
[23:53] <Varro> oh lol
[23:54] <Varro> May be I will replay GTA 5 then
[23:54] <mybalzitch> death stranding / control
[23:54] <Varro> Yeh I have Death Stranding Director's Cut
[23:54] <mybalzitch> control has lots of support for the rtx features, I'd try taht
[23:54] <Varro> need to complete it... I think I left it more than halfway thru
[23:54] <Varro> good idea i will complete Death Stranding on the new GPU then
[23:55] <mybalzitch> success!
[23:55] <Varro> I have Control haven't started playing it - received for free on Epic
[23:59] <krzx_> but you see in wavemon on bleach thats still a decent wifi connection correct https://postimg.cc/z3b4tfJh