[00:06] <mybalzitch> run iperf, see which one goes faster
[00:10] <rbox> zoom zoom
[01:57] <vikki> hello
[01:58] <vikki> #elementaryos
[02:03] <oerheks> vikki, not on #libera i guess
[02:03] <oerheks>  purchase of elementary OS 🤣
[03:27] <ppw> miata baby
[07:17] <aiena> My keyboard Has an Insert/Print Screen (with FN key). How DO I use SysRQ on these keyboards?
[07:19] <alkisg> Alt+Fn+PrintScreen+key
[07:21] <aiena> ok I giess gnome is interfering as lt + fn + printscreen takes a screenshot.
[07:21] <aiena> alkisg, can I use SysRQ if my GPU hangs?
[07:22] <alkisg> Sure if the kernel hasn't hanged
[07:22] <aiena> how do I cleat the gnome printscreen shortcut?
[07:23] <aiena> alt+ printscr is set to capture a window
[07:26] <weedmic> aiena: post a pic of your keybaord
[07:27] <aiena> weedmic, the alt+fn+h key is working if I press ctrl+alt+f3 to get to tty3/tty4
[07:27] <aiena> weedmic, the * alt+fn+pritscr+h key
[07:28] <aiena> weedmic, my keyboard is a dell KB216
[07:28] <guiverc> aiena, i have a modern dell keyboard that requires instead of ctrl+alt+sysrq ctrl+alt+fn+ins-printscr key  (two keys needed to get sysrq)
[07:29] <guiverc> what sysrq functions are enabled (by default) varies on release too don't forget
[07:30] <weedmic> is not the sysreq key the ` above the tab?
[07:30] <aiena> weedmic, ABV THE TAB KEY IS THE ~/` KEY
[07:31] <aiena> oops sorry
[07:31] <guiverc> Sysrq was printed on the front of a key, not a keytop.. (usually BLUE where as normal keytops were black on 1980-2000 keyboards)
[07:33] <weedmic> apparently it doesn't work for me either, but I"ve not needed it in ten years at least.
[07:33] <weedmic> let us know when you figure it out, I'd like to write it down
[07:34]  * guiverc notices i have three IBM keyboards that have a green SysRq on keyfront (not blue) just in this room.... 
[07:59] <foxfp> is ubuntu moving towards replacing apt with the snap store?
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | foxfp
[08:00] <hiya> Do you know any new horror movie?
[08:00] <hiya> oops sorry wrong chan
[08:00] <foxfp> ok, i'll move
[08:11] <x_> hi
[12:27] <plt> I am having a issue and ssh is not restarting https://pastebin.com/g5QqBYCp
[12:30] <ravage> sudo journalctl -u ssh -f
[12:33] <weedmic> did you try "systemctl stop sshd.service" count to ten, then "systemctl start sshd.service" plt ?
[12:34] <weedmic> it looks like you did "ssh.service", which is not what it is on my ubuntu
[12:38] <plt> I fixed it but I am not sure why the sshd_config file got f*cked up
[12:39] <plt> bbl
[12:40] <weedmic> while it is correct, take a second to cp it to ssh.config.backup
[12:44] <plt> After correcting the issue I made a backup of the config file.
[12:44] <plt> bbl
[12:44] <Jymmmmmmm> @wee
[12:46] <Jymmmmmmm> weedmic Heh, I was getting bad at that... I had made an alias 'e' that tookwhatever file I was going to edit, cp it add a timestamp, THEN edit the file =)
[13:10] <Bombo> i got a permissions problem (i guess) this is ls -l: 'crw-rw----+ 1 root input 10, 223 Jul 16  2022 /dev/uinput' id shows 'groups=107(input)...' but 'echo "" >>/dev/uinput' gives me 'bash: /dev/uinput: Permission denied'
[13:17] <Jymmmmmmm> Bombo Have you tried as sudo?
[13:17] <Jymmmmmmm> Not sure if that helps, just guessing here
[13:20] <Bombo> Jymmmmmmm: yes then it 'works' but i need it to work as user
[13:22] <weedmic> what is c in crw-rw----+ and is input the actual name of a group - which you are or not a member of?  Bombo
[13:23] <Rockwood> hi
[13:23] <Rockwood> i am facing Initramfs Error On Ubuntu
[13:24] <Rockwood> suddenly my ubuntu was hand and after restart i am facing this error
[13:24] <Rockwood> how to fix this error?
[13:26] <weedmic> which file system are you using Rockwood?
[13:26] <Rockwood> i don't much about it how can get this?
[13:28] <Rockwood> busybox ubuntu
[13:28] <Rockwood> is it?
[13:29] <weedmic> can you post the actual error Rockwood
[13:32] <Rockwood> weedmic, https://ibb.co/4FNdv2C this is i am facing
[13:32] <Rockwood> my system is not botting
[13:33] <Rockwood> just stuck on this sccreen
[13:33] <Rockwood> screen
[13:48] <Rockwood> weedmic,  ^^
[13:51] <weedmic> Rockwood: did you run fsck manually?
[13:52] <Rockwood> yes
[13:52] <weedmic> and?
[13:52] <Rockwood> weedmic, https://ibb.co/TwjDftF
[13:52] <Rockwood> even reboot and exit command not doing reboot or exit
[13:56] <weedmic> reboot with a live linux - so you can manipulate the array, then do sudo umount /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-ubuntu--lv, then do fsck -y /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-ubuntu--lv
[13:56] <weedmic> Rockwood:
[13:57] <weedmic> you may wish to read this, with google translate - https://phoenixnap.com/kb/fsck-command-linux
[13:57] <Rockwood> yeah already done
[13:57] <weedmic> :o
[13:58] <weedmic> make a new array and restore from backup
[13:58] <weedmic> tot siens
[14:43] <tekisui> hey y0shi !@
[14:59] <lflare> Is this the correct
[14:59] <lflare> Is this the correct IRC channel to ask questions about setting up a Ubuntu mirror? Is it okay to use Cloudflare w/ caching another mirror to setup a mirror?
[15:00] <oerheks> sure you can run your private mirror, or public one
[15:00] <oerheks> hmm older docs https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Rsyncmirror
[15:00] <oerheks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
[15:01] <oerheks> list with current ones https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[15:01] <lflare> Yes, but I got this idea of just setting up some kind of reverse proxy cache with CF, because I do not have the HDD space, is that allowed?
[15:20] <ravage> lflare: why do you want to setup a mirror then?
[15:21] <ravage> It's not forbidden but i don't see the advantage
[15:22] <oerheks> this is without snaps ..
[15:29] <lflare>  ah okay, not forbidden, cool, tahnks
[15:29] <lflare> thanks*
[15:55] <meorasa> Anyone know where I can fine this Ubuntu Kernel 5.13.0-39-generic version online without the security updates installed?
[15:57] <oerheks> without the security updates? no.
[15:59] <meorasa> so would i need to patch it to exclude the security updates?
[15:59] <oerheks> no, just take one kernel earlier..
[15:59] <oerheks> lolz
[16:01] <meorasa> cant seucirty updates be removed?
[16:01] <oerheks> sure, but that is beyond the scope of this channel
[16:01] <oerheks> i gave you a simple solution.
[16:02] <jeremy31> 5.13 kernels are no longer supported
[16:03] <oerheks> jeremy31, yes, and i don' t even want to know why one wants to reverse security patches
[16:04] <oerheks> meorasa, akik in #linux gave you the kernel ppa
[16:04] <oerheks> good luck
[16:13] <jhutchins> meorasa: Why do you want to exclude the security updates?
[16:20] <ForeverNoob[m]> Hello, is this doc still valid for 22.04 or else what doc should I follow? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/VirtManager
[16:22] <Guest62> Hello
[16:22] <Guest62> My system doesn’t start
[16:22] <Guest62> So the GUI
[17:21] <jar-el> Does anyone using steam also had the issue that the steam-UI is like 98% transparent since the update?
[17:21] <tekisui> am using steamunlocked
[17:22] <ravage> since what update
[17:22] <jar-el> it auto-updated today
[17:22] <jar-el> I'm on ubuntu 20.04
[17:23] <jar-el> I have to put it in front of a dark terminal and then it's somewhat readable
[17:23] <jar-el> Steam Version:  1687386907
[17:23] <jar-el> Steam Client Build Date:  Wed, Jun 21 23:18 UTC -08:00
[17:23] <jar-el> Steam Web Build Date:  Thu, Jun 22 00:26 UTC -08:00
[17:23] <jar-el> Steam API Version:  SteamClient020
[17:24] <ravage> really looks like a bigger update. installed it now too
[17:24] <ravage> but all fine here on 22.04 with nvidia on xorg
[17:24] <jar-el> hmm
[17:25] <jar-el> I tried to turn off hardware acceleration in the settings but it stays the same
[17:30] <ioria> jar-el, https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/6516193260167281668/
[17:31] <jar-el> thanks ioria!
[17:31] <ioria> jar-el, ok
[17:31] <u8353v[m]> I need to install windows in same laptop where bodhi linux is installed.
[17:31] <u8353v[m]> is there any special setup to keep in mind not to override bodhi or it will be alongside?
[17:31] <u8353v[m]> this laptop is so old i dont know...
[17:32] <u8353v[m]>  * I need to install Windows Lite in same laptop where Bodhi Linux is installed.
[17:32] <u8353v[m]> Is there any special setup to keep in mind not to override bodhi or it will be alongside?
[17:32] <u8353v[m]> This laptop is so old i don't know...
[17:34] <ravage> u8353v[m]: https://discord.com/invite/pvB7MSf
[17:34] <tekisui> ok
[17:34] <tekisui> with ubuntu you can install it alongside
[17:34] <jar-el> yes, this fixed it!
[17:34] <tekisui> but the other way i dunno
[17:34] <tekisui> just follow the steps carefully
[17:35] <tekisui> but why need two operating systems on one old laptop ?
[17:35] <ravage> Bodhi Linux is not supported here. so we can move on. already sent the right support channel for it
[17:38] <tekisui> it´s a question about windows i think..?
[17:39] <ravage> same
[17:39] <tekisui> u8353v[m]:  better ti partition your harddrive in advance
[17:39] <tekisui> better to partition
[18:29] <tekisui> hey zeroes_
[18:48] <strive> Is there a tool I could use on Ubuntu that sorts my repo mirros by speed?
[18:49] <tekisui> i ain´t got a clue
[19:00] <ravage> strive: https://mvogt.wordpress.com/2011/03/21/the-apt-mirror-method/
[19:39] <acids> Hello, my laptop is Lenovo Thinkpad L560. I performed a kernel update from linux-image-5.19.0-32-generic (5.19.0-32.33~22.04.1) to linux-image-5.19.0-45-generic (5.19.0-32.33~22.04.1). After this update my trackpoint did not work any longer. Upon rebooting into the kernel I was previously using, the trackpoint works perfectly again. However the issue is not Ubuntu specific since I also had the same problem
[19:39] <acids> and solution on the same hardware with Fedora. Should this be reported as an Ubuntu or Kernel  bug?
[19:40] <acids> Sorry, typo. Upgraded to 5.19.0-45.46~22.04.1
[19:42] <jeremy31> acids: It should almost be tested with the newest mainline kernel to see if the bug exists there since it affects 2 distros
[19:42] <jeremy31> It wouldn't hurt to file bug reports with Ubuntu and Fedora
[19:51] <acids> Thank you jeremy31
[19:55] <Guest62> Is the simplest solution for dualbooting Windows & LVM LUKS Kubuntu this 30 cmd guide? This has to be one of the most fragmented quandaries i've seen in some time both in detailed (or lack of) process steps and how convoluted this whole thing becomes I'm honestly wondering if its faster to just make a backup with veeam and wipe everything & restore
[19:55] <Guest62> after choosing the guided installer for whole disk FDE
[19:55] <Guest62> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Full_Disk_Encryption_Howto_2019
[20:06] <jhutchins> Guest62: Linux is really more about being able to learn to do things for yourself instead of automated point-and-click solutions.
[20:07] <jhutchins> Guest62: If you're going to encrypt your system, you're almost certain to break it at some point.  If all you have is an "install" button, but no knowledge of the underlying systems, recovery is going to be very difficult.
[20:08] <tekisui> what is it with this facebook snap thing ?
[20:08] <tekisui> i mean firefox*
[20:08] <tekisui> firefox snap
[20:09] <ravage> it is firefox as a snap
[20:09] <tekisui> well not verry userl friendly
[20:09] <Guest62> my guy, there is a breadth of crap to learn just getting to the installer for the average joe. This is neither knowledge seeking or sensible to convolute a process when you have to jump over the river and go through the woods  to reach grandmothers house or in this case a secure installation with LVM LUKS.
[20:09] <Guest62> 'Wipe that whole disk or have fun pulling your hair out lul'
[20:09] <ravage> tekisui: do you have a specific support question about it?
[20:09] <tekisui> well it would be nice if it would auto-install
[20:10] <ravage> it does
[20:10] <tekisui> how ?
[20:10] <tekisui> or it will just auto install 14 days after the message ?
[20:10] <ravage> it comes with every desktop installation of Ubuntu
[20:10] <ravage> it cant update while it is running
[20:10] <tekisui> hmm i think they changed it in 22.04
[20:10] <tekisui> ok
[20:11] <Guest62> Do you know the full inner workings of your combustion engine and all the parts that work in tandem with it to get you to work every morning? No car just go vroom lol
[20:11] <ravage> tekisui: if you have it running like 23 hours a day then quit it and type "sudo snap refresh" on a terminal
[20:11] <tekisui> yes i been a diesel engineer
[20:11] <tekisui> well not fully*
[20:11] <tekisui> this is not verry user friendly
[20:12] <ravage> feel free to discuss it in #ubuntu-discuss
[20:12] <ravage> this is for support questions only
[20:12] <tekisui> ok
[20:12] <tekisui> most people think cars just go vroom
[20:12] <tekisui> and they want it all automated now
[20:12] <tekisui> just sleep
[20:12] <tekisui> sleep sleep blissfull sleep
[20:15] <jhutchins> Guest62: I'm a licenced aviation mechanic, so bad example.
[20:15] <Guest62> I am asking support questions. Is that guide I linked the most straight forward way to achieve an lvm luks env with dualbooting windows? Cuz after a few days that's best and most concise guide I can find and even then it's just a tediously involved process
[20:16] <jhutchins> Guest62: Perhaps it would be easier to go un-encrypted.  Why do you want Linux anyway, if you already have Windows?
[20:16] <dTal> controversial
[20:16] <Guest62> Why do you get more clothes when you already wearing some
[20:17] <dTal> why eat a nice bowl of ice cream when you could hold your hand over an open flame instead
[20:17] <Guest62> There are endless reasons to want a dualboot env, and my threat model requires encrypted systems at full or at least some degree.
[20:19] <Toadisattva> does that mean if you run macOS you need to wear the same outfit every day? say a black turtleneck and blue jeans? :P
[20:20] <Guest62> Boggling people pigeon themselves into one OS.
[20:20] <Guest62> 'You touched an iPhone once in 6th grade you're  sentenced to apple  products the the rest of your live, now begone. '
[20:20] <jhutchins> Guest62: Ok, then just accept the fact that you're going to have to learn things, especially if you don't stick to the default standards.
[20:20] <jhutchins> Guest62: I'd say the best way to determine if that's a good guide is to try it.
[20:21] <Guest62> Homie I've tried like 5, I'm tired of getting halfway through 30-step guides to discover  something has changed or a lot changes in 6-10 months
[20:21] <jhutchins> Guest62: We can't help that you're tired.  This is how you learn.
[20:22] <jhutchins> Guest62: Was this the document you referred to ?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Full_Disk_Encryption_Howto_2019
[20:23] <jhutchins> Admittedly a few years old,  but encryption hasn't changed much.
[20:24] <jhutchins> It's been revised fairly recently.
[20:25] <Guest62> If I rolled my eyes any harder I'd need to get a dog to help me find a solution.
[20:25] <Guest62> I work as a T3 Tech I have my black belt in google-fu. I know how much can change in the tech space in 1-2 months let alone several.
[20:25] <Guest62> Encryption is a critical issue these days, this isnt some obscure niche issue. A lot are concerned with security & privacy and maybe even chose kubuntu because it excels in some of those areas. I just wanted to confirm that after close to a year, the process has gained little to no headway and is just as convoluted as ever.
[20:25] <Guest62> Even finding guides like that is like a needle in a haystack
[20:26] <jhutchins> Imagine having worked with this stuff for a few decades.
[20:27] <jhutchins> Guest62: In any case, this channel is for answering specific support questions, not philosophical lectures.  Please stay on topic.
[20:27] <Toadisattva> this will be no help at all, but all I had to was tick the box "use encrypted lvm" in the kubuntu installion and it was done
[20:28]  * Toadisattva shrugs
[20:29] <Guest62> Now imagine we're starting to moores law in some areas and we're going backwards not forwards with ease of use. Not easy, or simple. Just straight forward.
[20:29] <Guest62> You can either....Wipe the disk and everything on it and with 3 clicks bobs your uncle....ORRRRRR....Try it yourself with hours of article sifting and cli commands and re-tries cuz you forgot a space and applied changes before noticing
[20:29] <Guest62> so hard to pick they both sound so fun
[20:30] <jhutchins> Guest62: Pretty much. Do you still have a question, other than the guide?
[20:31] <Guest62> I do. When was the last time you had a warm hug from an individual you enjoy being around? Liven up a little and maybe log-in to whats offline not online
[20:34] <Toadisattva> couple days ago, couple hours ago if dogs count, thanks for asking :D
[20:35] <Guest62> I'd question the inquiry however I never specified people and dogs aren't just good individiduals but good bois and grills too
[21:20] <sukhman> hey they. I ubuntu has just crased.
[21:22] <oerheks> did your ubuntu sended a crashreport? you would be notified and asked for your password to collect data and send it
[21:22] <oerheks> if so...
[21:22] <oerheks> xdg-open https://errors.ubuntu.com/user/$(sudo cat /var/lib/whoopsie/whoopsie-id)
[21:22] <tekisui> hey
[22:07] <forgotmynick> I'm losing my flipping mind over this. Running 20.04.6 LTS with an intel 8265 wifi card. After connecting to wifi using nmcli for the first time, it worked great but then I noticed some random drop outs and then it wouldn't reconnect until I rebooted the machine. Every time I rebooted, it would connect until some point it disconnected. I have multiple access points with the same SSID but of course different BSSID. When I booted
[22:07] <forgotmynick> the machine and it connected to wifi, when I restarted the AP it was connected to (forcing it off), it would not be able to reconnect. Even when the access point is broadcasting again. I tried to restart wpa_supplicant and NetworkManager but nothing. After 6 hours I noticed that if I reboot the AP it's connected to and then `systemctl restart wpa_supplicant.service NetworkManager`, it would reconnect. What is going on?!
[22:08] <forgotmynick> ` it would reconnect. What is going on?!` should read ` it would reconnect to another AP. What is going on?!`
[22:12] <teras> Hello can anyone help. I am trying to run Phoebetria deb within 22.04 and I am seriously stacked. If anyone has free time please reply
[22:13] <jeremy31> forgotmynick: is power management enabled,?
[22:15] <teras> I run those:
[22:15] <teras> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntuhandbook1/ppa
[22:15] <teras> sudo apt-get update
[22:15] <teras> sudo apt install qt4-dev-tools libqt4-dev libqt4-core libqt4-gui
[22:15] <teras> sudo apt install libcanberra-gtk-module libcanberra-gtk3-module
[22:15] <teras> sudo apt-get install libusb-1.0
[22:16] <forgotmynick> jeremy31: No, Power Management:off
[22:18] <teras> The app is not starting
[22:18] <jhutchins> !info Phoebetria
[22:19] <jhutchins> teras: Are you starting it from a console so you can see error messages?
[22:20] <teras> no from dash apps
[22:20] <jeremy31> forgotmynick: Post URL from terminal for>  cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf|nc termbin.com 9999
[22:20] <teras> spinning for 2-3 seconds and that's all
[22:21] <teras> Should I started with pkexec?
[22:21] <forgotmynick> jeremy31: https://termbin.com/y7ca
[22:22] <oerheks> teras, did you follow this guide? https://hessburg.de/phoebetria-bitfenix-recon-fan-control-2/
[22:22] <jeremy31> forgotmynick: run in terminal>  sudo sed -i 's/wifi.powersave = 0/wifi.powersave = 2/' /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf
[22:22] <oerheks> see sudo ln -sf libudev.so.1 libudev.so.0
[22:22] <teras> yes exactly except the sudo add-apt-repository ppa:rock-core/qt4 because it doesn't exist anymore I used sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntuhandbook1/ppa
[22:23] <oerheks> after installing, reboot ?
[22:23] <teras> yep
[22:23] <teras> sudo ln -sf libudev.so.1 libudev.so.0 done it
[22:25] <oerheks> then i have no clue, see the ~/.config/Phoebetria/ folder?
[22:26] <teras> doesn't exists I created manually
[22:26] <teras> from terminal with bash I am getting Permission denied
[22:28] <oerheks> well, good luck with that, 2013 .. https://sourceforge.net/projects/phoebetria/files/
[22:29] <oerheks> one needs this for the recon fan controller, i wonder why it is not supported yet
[22:29] <teras> yes too sad I have the recon fan controller
[22:29] <teras> should I try other versions lower?
[22:30] <oerheks> no, i doubt that would fix things..
[22:30] <teras> how can I ran it from terminal?
[22:31] <teras> what command?
[23:24] <fuer> ????
[23:55] <Beladona> Hi
[23:55] <gry> Hello, Beladona
[23:55] <Beladona> How can I decrypt geli based zfs file system?
[23:59] <oerheks> all i find is geli is part of freebsd