[00:13] <waldo323__> howdy, 
[00:14] <waldo323__> I'm hoping to be able to move more systems away from the RHEL compatible distributions as Red Hat has lost more of my trust
[00:15] <waldo323__> just because you can do something doesn't mean it is good for the community, smaller companies, or individuals 
[02:28] <cmaloney> I'm with you there.
[17:13] <greg-g> I had a dream about a very weird cave/cavern/temple tour that ended in a *very* busy commercial area that basically just served alcohol. one of the other people in the tour group was VERY excited to see the beer taps.
[17:13] <greg-g> apropos of jay's sunday :)
[17:13] <greg-g> I'm currently hanging out at the amtrak station in Oxnard (the closest station to me) waiting for my train to Oakland.
[17:47] <jrwren> wow, you have trains?!?! :)
[17:47] <jrwren> I guess we technically have trains too. I've just never taken the amtrak michigan route
[17:48] <jrwren> the bus is nice though and runs every hour or more which is far more often than the train to detroit. Cheaper too.
[19:21] <greg-g> jrwren: it'll take me longer to get to sf (actually Oakland is where I get off) than it would to drive :/ just trying this out this time instead of flying.
[19:21] <greg-g> 9 hours vs 6
[19:22] <greg-g>  The start of my travelogue: https://social.coop/@Greg/110611720878984044
[19:53] <jrwren> 9 hours?!!? I thought you lived closer than that.
[19:53] <jrwren> That is a lot diff than 45min bus ride for me :) 
[19:55] <greg-g> Yup. I'm only a couple ish hours north of LA now, and California is big ;)
[19:55] <jrwren> did you move again? or did I just forget where you did last time?
[19:57] <greg-g> I think you forgot, we've been here (Ojai) since late 2019
[19:58] <jrwren> Yup. I forgot where. Dunno why I thought you were up by Sac