[00:34] <mmikowski> RikMills: Got it. I'll see if I can hack the qml.
[00:38] <mmikowski> RikMills: Argh, spoke to soon: no qml. We'll see ...
[00:40] <mmikowski> ok found it. Will see if I can fix.
[08:42] -queuebot:#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Mantic Daily] has been updated (20230629.1)
[13:46] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[22:16] <RikMills[m]> https://www.webpronews.com/linux-distro-review-kubuntu/
[22:33] <mmikowski> RikMills[m]: Nice! I think we should add a link to the kfocus landing page. Might also be good on the Kubuntu.org site. I also like the point about the default email client. We support that here too (https://kfocus.org/wf/email). I completely agree about kdepim, and I used it for 10 years.
[22:34] <mmikowski> Also, made some progress on the Samba installer; looking at the qml from the source.
[22:49] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> Yeah, I love kde, but when something like PIM is a bad user experience, I feel no shame give a better deafult
[22:50] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> Even Neon defaults to VLC for a media player and Firefox for browser
[22:50] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> Kubuntu is just taking that pragmatic attitude a step further
[22:54] <mmikowski> Indeed, that's why we went with Kubuntu Focus - pragmatic defaults that people could use as a daily driver.
[22:55] <mmikowski> RikMills[m]: Indeed, that's why we went with Kubuntu - pragmatic defaults that people could rely on as a daily driver.
[22:56] <mmikowski> We couldn't support KDE pim - sadly, too many issues, even though it was enormously powerful.
[23:02] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> That is why we dropped it also. The inevitable slew off issues on each new release was too much. Plus they just disregard any ABI breakage policy for KDE or distros, so each new release is a packager  minor nightmare to support in the default set of installed package
[23:03] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> s/minor/maintainer
[23:06] <mmikowski> That's something to consider for their LTS releases too :)
[23:08] <mmikowski> I just put this together, and I think it's the best synopsis of where Kubuntu and Focus adds value for customers: https://www.quora.com/Which-laptop-brand-is-best-suited-for-Linux-distribution-for-development/answer/Mike-Mikowski-1
[23:10] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> Looks good, but too much to digest tonight at midnight. Sadly I have a funeral to get to tomorrow so should sign off
[23:11] <mmikowski> Certainly RikMills[m]. Best wishes to you. I'll drop that to your directly for review whenever you want.
[23:12] <mmikowski> good night.