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imihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snap/+bug/202540100:06
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2025401 in snap (Ubuntu) "/user.slice/user-1000.slice/session-3.scope is not a snap cgroup" [Undecided, New]00:06
syphyrive seen that bug reported before00:07
sarnoldimi: can you throw some journalctl output up there?00:08
imisarnold: I can, suggest me a command please00:09
syphyrhttps://forum.snapcraft.io/t/not-a-snap-cgroup-error/3077600:09
sarnoldimi: journalctl -e > /tmp/journal   -- then read through the file and make sure you're fine with what's in it before uploading00:09
sarnoldheh :( no real advice there :(00:11
imiok I need to go sleeping00:26
imithanks for the support00:26
imiI hope it gets resolved soon00:26
heitaihello00:27
imibye00:28
heitaihttps://github.com/Heitai-C11/Minix-C11_2.0/wiki <-- it's possible to adapt a minix kernel 2.0 on 3-Clauses BSD licence on ubuntu with GPL-3 ?00:28
heitaiperaps with an xeon processor or an arm64 like beagle board00:29
heitaiany else i try ubuntu one and the script is blocked https://ubuntu.com/security/certifications/docs/usg/cis/compliance00:32
heitailv200:32
heitaihttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wYkKPSRCKm/00:38
sarnoldheitai: CIS compliance stuff is niche; you might need to use the commercial support offerings to get help with it. I doubt you'll find many folks here who have experience with it.00:41
heitaiok where i could i ask ?00:43
sarnoldheitai: I think the 'support portal' button on https://ubuntu.com/pro/dashboard00:46
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heitaithank sarnold00:53
sarnoldgood luck heitai :)00:53
heitai:-D00:53
heitaisarnold, who check the kernel issu ? ubuntu one on free community ?00:55
sarnoldheitai: heh, the minix kernel is something you'll have to organize yourself ;) I doubt anybody else has tried that before00:56
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jean-loupswitch best smartphone for Ubuntu Touch ?01:27
ToadisattvaI thought ubuntu touch died before it was even born?01:27
Toadisattvawell I'll be it looks they didn't discontinue dev on it01:30
jean-loupswhy ?01:31
jean-loupsi will try to debug, beta-tester01:32
jean-loupsi try to bone to eat01:34
jean-loupsi try to find a bone to eat01:34
jean-loupsfor do a portfolio01:34
r2aguiarhello01:38
toddcjean-loups: Touch moved from canonical to community and is still being worked on https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/  look at devices some work better than others depending on what features you want01:47
jean-loupshttps://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/suzu01:51
jean-loupsthank01:51
jean-loupsit's the right phone ? --> https://www.sfr.fr/sony-xperia10iv-noir-128go01:54
oerheksYou are viewing data for an obsolete Ubuntu Touch release that is kept for historical reasons01:56
oerheks!touch01:57
ubottuInformation about the mobile port of the Ubuntu platform (formely Ubuntu Touch) for Phone and Tablet is available here: https://ubports.com/. Support and discussion in #ubports01:57
jean-loupsok thank ubottu02:04
jean-loupshttps://github.com/jean-loups/Minix-C11_2.0/blob/main/LICENSE <-- it´s rigth ?02:04
jean-loupsno problem with low02:04
jean-loups??02:04
oerhekslow? no.. law? probably not.02:05
jean-loupsyes sorry02:07
jean-loupsi have the right to change an 3-Clause to GPL-3 ?02:07
oerheksi think not, but check this with the legal guys02:10
jean-loupsLes paquets suivants ont été conservés :02:13
jean-loups  libmm-glib0 modemmanager ubuntu-drivers-common02:13
jean-loups0 mis à jour, 0 nouvellement installés, 0 à enlever et 3 non mis à jour.02:13
jean-loupsoerheks, ??02:13
jean-loupsneed recode the most of the kernel02:13
lotuspsychje!phasedupdates | jean-loups02:15
ubottujean-loups: Since Ubuntu 21.04, APT may hold back some updates on some systems while they are being phased in. This is called "phased updates". See https://ubottu.com/y/phased and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PhasedUpdates for more info.02:15
lotuspsychjejean-loups: maybe share a !paste of what apt shows you, so the volunteers can help you better02:15
jean-loupsok02:16
oerhekshttps://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jammy/man8/mkfs.minix.8.html02:16
oerheksoops02:17
jean-loupsno problem oerheks02:18
jean-loupsi supose use zfs02:18
jean-loupsi have a lot of flyer in my home02:19
jean-loupsfuck02:19
jean-loupsthunder02:19
EickmeyerKeep it family friendly please.02:19
jean-loupssorry02:20
jean-loupsmy english is poor02:20
lotuspsychjewe also have a french ubuntu channel jean-loups02:21
lotuspsychje!fr02:21
ubottuNous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper «/join #ubuntu-fr» ou «/join #ubuntu-qc». Merci.02:21
jean-loupsflyer flyer kill when thunder02:21
jean-loupsubottu, no i work my english as the same02:21
jean-loupsand in france all people sleeping02:22
EickmeyerAlso stay on-topic, please.02:22
jean-loupswhere we name Ubuntu with Minix kernel ?02:24
EickmeyerDoesn't exist.02:25
jean-loupsi will code02:25
EickmeyerIt will be unsupported here, so have fun.02:26
jean-loupsif i find an assembler dev for this part02:26
Eickmeyer!ot | jean-loups02:26
ubottujean-loups: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:26
jean-loupsfor create an channel02:26
jean-loupsok i join02:28
jean-loupsbut need name this Ubuntu02:28
jean-loupsno bug, with LTS... best as Debian02:28
jean-loupsbut no LTE-4G pci-e card work02:29
jean-loupsneed use my iPhone in wifi02:29
EickmeyerIt wouldn't be allowed as an official flavor because, as far as I know, Ubuntu flavors *must* use the Linux kernel, but the official process of becoming a flavor is outlined here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecognizedFlavors02:29
EickmeyerHowever, you need to stop with offtopic monologuing and ask only actual support questions in here.02:30
sivabalansmhello02:57
ripaHi, need help enabling guest account03:11
ripacat /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-ubuntu.conf03:11
ripa[Seat:*]03:11
ripauser-session=ubuntu03:11
ripaallow-guest=true03:11
ripabut cannot see the guest Login anywhere03:11
ripaneither on the Login screen03:11
ripaor the top-right menu03:11
ripaUbuntu 20.0403:12
Unit193Can you run `lightdm --show-config` real quick?03:13
ripacommand not found03:14
ripaCommand 'lightdm' not found, but can be installed with:03:14
Unit193Ah, you're using GDM then?03:15
ripayes GDM03:15
Unit193So, /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-ubuntu.conf doesn't apply at all, since lightdm isn't GDM.03:15
ripayes.. 100%  you are correct03:16
Unit193I haven't used GDM in 5-10 years, can't really help you there. :)03:17
ripathanks for pointing that out03:18
ripabut googling enable guest showed me those results on askubuntu and unbuntuforums03:18
ripasry askubuntu only03:19
Unit193Haha!  I looked it up real quick, one post for how to enable the guest login started out with "Install lightdm" :D03:20
ripaUnit193: It suggests to install Lightdm -> enable Guest -> then switch back to GDM03:23
Unit193Not this one.03:25
Unit193ripa: I happend upon https://www.makeuseof.com/enable-restricted-guest-session-ubuntu/ and https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2021/07/create-guest-account-ubuntu-20-04/  both.03:25
ripahttps://askubuntu.com/questions/1321782/lubuntu-20-04-and-tmporary-user-like-guest03:25
Unit193By the title, Lubuntu would be LXDE.03:27
ripaUnit193: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm303:28
ripathis looks scary03:28
ripai guess I shud back the current settings GDM.. googling that now03:28
ripaUnit193: btw.. any speciffic reason u r  using LightDM?03:29
Unit193I use Xfce, not GNOME.03:29
ripadont know about Xfce either :(03:30
ripaUnit193: whoa  talk about User-friendly X-P04:05
Unit193ripa: Pardon?04:09
ripawill wrestle with Enabling Guest Sessions later..04:09
ripa1. there is a package to  enable guest sessions in Gnome04:09
ripa2. LightDM way -> install Lightdm then switch back to GDM04:09
ripasudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm304:09
ripasystemctl stop lightdm04:09
ripasystemctl start gdm304:09
ripaUnit193: Thanks04:11
Unit193Sorry I couldn't help, I just don't know GNOME/GDM at all.04:11
ripanp.. but Thanks :)04:11
ripahave to run now04:12
ripabye04:12
Unit193Well, you're welcome.  Toodles.04:12
TheMasterSHello everyone.05:17
jean-loupshi TheMasterS05:18
jean-loupshow are you ?05:18
TheMasterSI'm fine.05:19
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studenthi07:01
studentanyone there07:01
student?07:01
studentwhat is hex chat though07:01
jean-loupstoo slowly07:02
studenthi me from school computer07:10
studenthi07:10
studenthi07:10
circleIs there any problem with using both apt and snap versions of an application? Do they get different names on install, or how are they distinguished?07:24
ID-10-Tsounds like a good way to break something07:26
ID-10-Tor at minimum waste storage space and possibly ram07:28
webchat95Hi, this morning I got surprised by Ubuntu booting into a tty instead of a desktop environment07:47
webchat95What is the best way to debug this?07:47
webchat95display-manager.service doesn't log anything other than "starting" and "started" gdm307:47
webchat95Interestingly, it seems to have exited: Process: 1813 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/gdm3 start (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)07:47
webchat95Turning on debugging in /etc/gdm3/custom.conf doesn't seem to give me any extra output07:48
webchat95Any pointers'd be greatly appreciated07:48
circlecheck free space: run as user:    df -h / /home07:49
webchat95Avail: 334G07:49
circlethat should be enough for the moment07:49
circlesudo dmesg | less07:51
jean-loupshi webchat95 ; hi circle07:52
jean-loupswebchat95, try with startx07:53
jean-loupsmore info in /var/log/Xorg0.log07:53
webchat95startx does start a graphical session, but with an error: "Oh no! Something has gone wrong" "A problem has occurred and the system can't recover. Please log out and try again"07:54
webchat95 /var/log/X* does not seem to exist07:55
jean-loupstry $ sudo service gdm3 start07:57
jean-loupsand pastbin07:57
jean-loupshttps://paste.ubuntu.com/07:58
jean-loupstry ctrl+alt F208:00
webchat95Restarting gdm3: https://pastebin.com/raw/7BafK01208:02
webchat95Switching to tty2 just gives me another tty unfortunately08:03
jean-loupstry $ gdm3 on $ sudo gdm3 en paste08:04
jean-loupsor*08:04
jean-loupsand* sorry i pass a white night08:09
webchat95Ha! gdm3 command not found08:09
webchat95installing ubuntu-desktop-minimal solved the issue08:09
webchat95I have no idea how that managed to get uninstalled08:10
jean-loupsgreat !08:11
jean-loupsnow install it and reboot08:12
jean-loupsand $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup and select 6x14 or else for tty08:13
circleSay on Ubuntu 2204 on dell laptop Ctrl-Alt-Fn  does not bring up the virtual consoles. How do I access them?08:13
jean-loupsafter F308:15
webchat95Am I reading this right in the apt logs? Did apt remove ubuntu-desktop on its own during a dist-upgrade? https://pastebin.com/raw/R4HpTd0L08:15
ID-10-Tit sure removed it, but was it suppsoed to install a newer version?08:17
jean-loupswebchat95, please report the bug on bugtracker08:17
jean-loupsjust a dev mistak08:18
ID-10-Tjust?08:19
jean-loupsit's just an oversight of the package maintainer08:22
circlethe package ubuntu-desktop ?08:23
jean-loupswere paste the bugtracker08:24
jean-loupswebchat95, please paste the link of the bugtracker08:24
jean-loupsneed reboot, hexchat is too mutch slowly08:25
circleRe Dell keyboard, it seems the left Alt must be used, the right alt can only be used afterwards to switch between virtual consoles.08:25
circleIs that adjustable somewhere?08:26
circleodd because other laptops do not have this restriction, and there's no indication on the keyboard that L-Alt is different from R-Alt.08:27
ID-10-Tsounds like some key-mapping for whateevr the setup is08:28
circlewhere to find these key mappings?08:34
EriC^^maybe 'xmodmap -pke'08:34
webchat95jean-loups https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/202546208:42
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2025462 in Ubuntu "Apt deletes ubuntu-desktop during dist-upgrade" [Undecided, New]08:42
webchat95Appreciate the help08:42
webchat95Thanks08:42
ID-10-Trather major oversight, removing multiple packages and dependencies s upgrading >_<08:46
webchat18is it possible to enable LUKS encryption on the boot volume using a key in TPM?08:49
clarkkI'm on Ubuntu 20.04 with Gnome. ssh doesn't ask me for my passphrase when logging into a remote system. If I create a new user locally and give it the same identity files, it asks for the passphrase. Anyone know why?08:52
webchat18is your user account set up for public key authentication?08:56
EriC^^clarkk: something to do with the ssh-agent, it's probably unlocking it when you login in the first account08:58
clarkkEriC^^, that sounds like it. How do I manage the keys stored in the agent?08:58
EriC^^clarkk: never tried that before, but try "password and keys" from the applications/search08:59
clarkkEriC^^, thanks for your help. Yes, that's it. ssh-add -l  lists the stored identities09:04
TheUnkown?09:05
EriC^^clarkk: i see, no problem09:08
webchat18anyone know the answer to my LUKS problem? The idea is to avoid the password entry on the server when rebooting remotely, but the encryption key needs to be stored securely, i.e. not on another partition. How do we remove that password entry requirement. Not sure how up-to-date the online material is - one referred to Ubuntu 12.xx!09:12
webchat18we are using server 22.04...09:15
webchat18perhaps I should start with the question: is LUKS still the Linux counterpart to Bitlocker?09:16
EriC^^are you expecting some already solution or asking for ideas09:17
webchat18I guess I am asking for ideas. There is stuff online, but not sure how accurate or up-to-date it is so I want to first establish the correct way to do this in 202309:19
EriC^^can you share the stuff online you found?09:19
webchat18this looks up-to-date: https://www.cyberciti.biz/security/howto-linux-hard-disk-encryption-with-luks-cryptsetup-command/09:20
webchat18have no idea whether cryptsetup is the correct way forward though09:20
webchat18this is another: https://glentomkowiak.medium.com/luks-with-tpm-in-ubuntu-df867cad9a109:21
webchat18but it says it can't be done on boot voumes...09:21
EriC^^webchat18: if i understood correctly you want to not have to enter the passphrase when you reboot remotely, but you still want it to have to enter a passphrase if it's started from a poweroff?09:22
webchat18EriC^^ no, just the first one. Not enter a passphrase when booting remotely. If that means getting rid of a passphrase altogether, then all the better. I have been informed that it should use the TPM09:24
webchat18...but it must obviously work on a bootable volume...09:25
ograthe only ubuntu that supports unttended LUKS booting with key in TPM (and *only* if secure boot is also properly set up and enabled)  is UbuntuCore currently ...09:25
ograthere is an attempt to allow this on classic server insalls too but that might still take a while09:26
webchat18ah, that's the IoT version?09:26
ograright09:26
webchat18ogra Ok, thanks.09:27
ograhttps://ubuntu.com/core/features/secure-boot09:28
ografor more details ...09:28
EriC^^webchat18: maybe this helps? https://run.tournament.org.il/ubuntu-20-04-and-tpm2-encrypted-system-disk/09:28
EriC^^it is tpm2 though09:29
webchat18that at least shows it is possible. Thanks for the links. Will read up. TPM2 is preferred.09:29
ograyeah, tpm2 is a hard req. even on UbuntuCore and will surely also be a req when classic server supports it later09:29
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BluesKajHi all12:41
tekisuihello12:42
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CoolerXI am trying to install podman on Ubuntu 20..0413:45
CoolerXTried apt-get and it failed13:45
CoolerXTried with aptitude https://bpa.st/KQCNQ13:45
leftyfbdo not use aptitude13:46
CoolerXwell apt-get isn't helping13:47
tekisuihave you tried synaptic package manager ?13:47
CoolerXsnap?13:47
tekisuiit comes with ubuntu13:47
tekisuiat [preferences]13:47
leftyfbCoolerX: podman is not a package in the ubuntu repositories13:47
leftyfbthat includes snap13:48
leftyfbCoolerX: why not just use lxd?13:49
CoolerXidk what lxd is13:52
CoolerX"podman is not a package in the ubuntu repositories" what?13:53
CoolerXhttps://podman.io/docs/installation#ubuntu13:53
CoolerX"The podman package is available in the official repositories for Ubuntu 20.10 and newer.13:53
CoolerX"13:53
CoolerXhmmmmmmmmm13:53
leftyfbsorry, not in 20.0413:54
CoolerXVERSION="20.04.6 LTS (Focal Fossa)"13:54
leftyfbthe first case of podman being in ubuntu is 22.0413:54
leftyfbsorry. 22.1013:54
leftyfb20.1013:54
leftyfbCoolerX: either way, https://ubuntu.com/lxd13:54
CoolerXthey give instructions to use kubic repo13:55
leftyfbdon't13:55
leftyfbLXD is a very easy way to spin up and use containers13:55
CoolerXleftyfb: that makes no sense to me, podman and docker aren't exactly difficult to use13:56
CoolerXdocker run --rm -p 8080:80 nginx13:56
CoolerXalso I need podman because certain bash scripts use it13:56
oerheks14 not upgraded, fix those first?13:56
CoolerXto build a project13:57
CoolerXwell I gtg, oerheks I don't want to do too much since it's a shared server13:57
hsiktas[m]isn't the HWE kernel from 23.04 for 22.04 a bit late?14:09
oerhekshttps://packages.ubuntu.com/lunar-updates/linux-generic-hwe-22.0414:12
oerhekscurrently 6.2.0.24.24 , but https://www.mail-archive.com/kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net/msg507144.html14:13
hsiktas[m]they mention July 23 here: https://canonical.com/blog/canonical-livepatch-gets-even-better-now-supporting-hardware-enablement-kernels14:13
m1ngxxvhi14:14
m1ngxxvis anyone alive?14:15
tekisuihello14:16
m1ngxxvhow life14:16
tekisuipretty good14:16
tekisuimanaged to fix xorg :)14:16
m1ngxxvoh nice14:16
ograhsiktas[m], try asking on #ubuntu-kernel if you need more details ...14:16
m1ngxxvwhat happened with xorg14:16
tekisuiah long story..14:16
tekisuii got nvida video card, ubuntu doesn´t like it verry much14:16
tekisuinvidia*14:16
m1ngxxvoh damn, which nvidia card?14:17
tekisuigt 53014:17
m1ngxxvthats an old card. um Noveau not working14:18
tekisuiyes half now :)14:18
tekisuivideos run well but can´t start any games14:18
tekisuiperhaps a sign i should quit gaming14:18
m1ngxxvwhat games do you play?14:19
m1ngxxvon a side note im showing my friend how irc works and hes impressed14:20
tekisui:)14:21
tekisuiit´s a solid system since 198514:21
ogra perhaps a sign you should get a more modern graphics card 🙂14:21
ogragt530 is pretty legacy ...14:21
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ogra(and it isnt really ubuntus fault that nvidia tends to drop support for old cards from their recent drivers)14:22
tekisuiumm i know..14:22
m1ngxxvikr, irc is awesome14:25
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OutOfServicehi people15:18
OutOfServiceI'm looking for god documentation in order to netbooting ubuntu desktop (or server) 22.04. What I need is to use it with (i)pxe and http. All the docs I can see on the internet are for old versions, but nothing related to current version. I also saw some docs regarding iscsi, and maybe nfs, but what I really need is booting the installation using just (i)pxe and http. Please, any help over15:20
OutOfServicehere?15:20
lotuspsychj3OutOfService: maybe here; https://discourse.ubuntu.com/15:22
OutOfServiceI was able to boot ubuntu installation, but at some point, it ask me to provide some "init=" options in order to mount the root, but I don't know where to fins there init options. Any clue?15:22
OutOfServiceI'll have a look. thanks. Anyway, this channel is also for technical help, isn't it?15:23
lotuspsychj3yes it is OutOfService you can ask ubuntu related issues here aswell indeed15:24
OutOfServiceok. anyway I'm already having a look to the site you said. I didn't know it15:24
nvmdwtf is that?15:32
nvmdoops, sorry15:32
jhutchinsIs edubuntu still around?  The Debian education project had a really solid netboot system, but I think the project died out.15:33
oerheksedubuntu is in revival, ask Eickmeyer15:33
oerhekshttps://www.phoronix.com/news/Edubuntu-202315:34
Eickmeyer[m]23.04 is available.15:34
oerheksnetboot happens with the live server nowadays? https://www.molnar-peter.hu/en/ubuntu-jammy-netinstall-pxe.html15:34
Eickmeyer[m]Completely revived now.15:35
oerheks:-)15:35
Eickmeyeroerheks: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/edubuntu-23-04-released/3528115:37
Eickmeyeroerheks: And also pay more attention to Ubuntu Weekly News.15:38
Eickmeyer(don't rely on 3rd party sources so much)15:38
Eickmeyerjhutchins: https://www.edubuntu.org/15:39
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joohow to fix if you just got gnome 44 (ubuntu 23 upgrade), but file save dialog and nautlius in general is very very slow / unresponsive. If i search for files when entering filenames, it even mixes up the keypresses unless i type real slow16:14
creactiveHi all16:37
tekisuihello16:39
creactiveHow are you doing? Just checking out the ubuntu channel16:39
tekisui:)16:39
creactiveIt's my first time using IRC16:39
tekisuiwelcome16:39
creactiveThank you16:40
creactiveThis is a can of worms I'm exploring that began at Matrix Messenger, lol16:40
creactiveSome interesting name I see in the nick list16:41
creactiveSome interesting names I see in the nick list16:41
creactiveOh. I thought that would correct what I wrote. Looks like it has repeated my last message.16:41
creactiveCan or do we discuss general topics here?16:42
tekisuitry ##chat16:42
tekisuior ##sleep16:42
tekisuiand there is #philosophy16:42
creactiveSuch as carbon fiber hulls, refuge ships, Putin etc?16:43
tekisui##politics perhaps ?16:43
leftyfb#ot | creactive16:43
creactiveCool16:43
leftyfb!ot | creactive16:43
ubottucreactive: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:43
creactiveI'll have a look now!16:43
jhutchinsjoo: What else is going on?  What does "top" show is loading the system?  What filesystem did you choose?  Is it encrypted?17:01
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ElliriaHey there, the recent NVIDIA update (today) made it so I can't boot. I use Kubuntu, so I posted a message in the Kubuntu channel, but nobody's replying. Can I possibly get help in here instead?19:16
sarnoldyeah19:18
ElliriaOkay, thanks. Here goes: I did an NVIDIA driver update after being prompted for it in Kubuntu 22.04 LTS and now I can't boot unless I boot into the old kernel. Details are here and I'd love any advice any of you have: https://bpa.st/ISWRC19:19
ElliriaI totally forgot to mention in the information in that link that when I installed Kubuntu, I opted to allow Kubuntu to manage my video drivers for me, so everything is however Kubuntu wants it to be.19:21
sarnold*wow* that's pink :)19:23
ElliriaHeh, it's #FF00FF... better known as plain old magenta, but I love the idea of Foofing my computer.19:24
sarnoldlol19:24
sarnoldElliria: does 'sudo ubuntu-drivers install' do anything useful?19:26
ElliriaCan I do it while I'm here talking to you? What will it do?19:27
sarnoldyeah, you can; my hope is that it'll spot a missing package or something and offer to install it19:28
ElliriaOkay, I'll try it. By the way, I just clicked on the update notifier in my tray and it checked and says I'm up-to-date, but here goes your command...19:29
ElliriaIt's doing a whole lot too fast for me to catch it and read it.19:29
ElliriaI see lots of "Setting up" and "Processing triggers" messages.19:30
ElliriaHere's what it did: https://bpa.st/ZQHAM19:32
ElliriaNow, when I look in Muon, there are WAY more NVIDIA packages installed. More than one screenful if I were to take screenshots. Would you like the screenshots?19:34
kara_Hello everyone. I am hoping someone has some experience with Ubuntu's Microstack deployment using sunbeam here.19:36
ElliriaThere are 22 NVIDIA packages installed now.19:37
sarnoldElliria: oh that looks VERY promising :D19:39
ElliriaHeh. I hope so. Does it mean I had an incomplete installation and everything should be good now?19:40
sarnoldElliria: hopefully19:41
kara_I am doing the multi-node deployment, but when I run the sunbeam cluster bootstrap --role control --role compute --role storage command it will get to the point of adding microceph and then timeout, if I run the command again I get to choose the disk I want to use, but I get an error. If I reboot and try to run the command again, I generally get a "could not list disks" error and when I try to dive into the logs for microceph it s19:42
kara_eems I am experiencing some kind of permissions issue.19:42
leftyfbkara_: your issue is very k8's specific and not really an ubuntu support question. You should try asking in #kubernetes or #ubuntu-server19:45
kara_Ok. thank you.19:45
ElliriaOkay. I'll try it in a minute. Someone is also responding in the Kubuntu channel now with different advice and I'll clear up which of their advice I should do or wait to do until after rebooting to see if this fixed it. Either way, I'll come back into here and let you know how it goes. Thank you SO much for helping me!19:45
ElliriaThat person is saying that it's likely the initrd just didn't get updated for the latest kernel and that that can happen when the kernel and the drivers get updated together. Did your command fix that?19:48
sarnoldElliria: yup, check out lines 392 and onward in your paste https://bpa.st/ZQHAM19:49
ElliriaOh, awesome. Does it doing that mean that that's probably what was wrong or would it do it no matter what?19:50
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sarnoldElliria: I suspect half the 64 new packages had something to do with it, too19:53
ElliriaHeh. That's probably true. Would one expect to need/get so many new packages with a driver update?19:55
ElliriaBy the way, I ran the "sudo apt install --fix-broken" command that the other person in the Kubuntu channel recommended with this output: https://bpa.st/JGV7I19:56
ElliriaI haven't heard back from the person in the Kubuntu channel, so I guess I'll try rebooting to see if it's fixed. If it is, you'll see me back in here shortly. If it's not and I can no longer get into the old kernel, it will be a while, because I'll have to fetch my laptop and get it set up first.19:59
sarnoldElliria: I bet their --fix-broken would have done very similar, if not identical, operation20:00
ElliriaThey recommended this first before that, but not until after I'd already run your command, so I'm not sure if I should run this or wait to see if yours did the job: sudo apt full-upgrade && update-initramfs -u -k all20:01
oerheksmixing support from 2 channels..20:01
ElliriaYeah, I didn't intend to do that, but nobody replied there, so I came here. My apologies.20:02
oerheksthe only way to find out if it is working again, is reboot. good luck!20:03
ElliriaAllrighty then. Hopefully, I'll be back in a bit.20:03
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ElliriaWeehaw! Fixed! Oh, thank you SO very much, sarnold, for everything! You're my hero!20:05
oerheks!cookie | sarnold20:05
ubottusarnold: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!20:05
ElliriaHeh.20:06
ElliriaI will try to pay this forward. I genuinely appreciate your patience and your time and I'm so very glad you were here.20:07
oerhekshave fun!20:08
ElliriaThanks! You, too!20:08
sarnoldElliria: woot! :D20:14
ElliriaI know, right? And I'm THRILLED with the update now that it's working. They finally fixed my desktop animations, which is amazing. Nothing on earth compares with Kubuntu's Magic Lamp and Fall Apart and I've missed them for many months. It's truly a pleasure to have them back again.20:14
sarnoldhaha :D nice20:16
tekisuihey dj21:03
tekisuihave you tried mixxx21:03
Guest82does anyone know if newer versions of ubuntu(after 20) are supposed to support the lenovo ideapad touch pad? I've seen a bunch of fixes online, but none of them work for me21:04
tekisuihttps://askubuntu.com/questions/1229957/ubuntu-20-04-touchscreen-on-lenovo-yoga21:06
tekisuimaybe this helps..21:07
Guest82Thanks for the link, but the touchscreen works fine. The touch pad (which doesn't use wacom drivers) is my issue21:08
tekisuiok21:08
Guest82to be more specific my touch pad doesn't do anything and when I use xinput or lshw, no touch pad appears at all even though it works on windows21:10
ElliriaIs this of any use? https://askubuntu.com/questions/159397/how-to-enable-touchpad21:14
sarnoldMake sure that the Touchpad is enabled. On an MSI laptop to Enable or disable the touchpad: FN+F3.21:15
sarnoldthat looks promising21:15
sarnoldmaybe you've got a little picture of a touchpad on the keyboard?21:15
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Guest82the issue is that the touch pad isn't shown in xinput so I can't enable it using xinput21:21
Guest82none of my function keys seem to do anything21:21
sarnold:(21:22
ElliriaHave you tried pressing the FN key with a function key? Some computers require that.21:23
tekisuihttps://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/ht075464-how-to-enable-and-disable-the-touchpad-windows-ideapad21:24
ElliriaI have to do that with my laptop.21:24
ElliriaHow nice of Lenovo to put pictures on the keys.21:25
Guest82i dont seem to have any function keys that enable or disable the touchpad21:27
Guest82i booted to windows and it said the mouse is on "I2C HID Device"21:28
tekisuicould it be something you can turn on into the bios ?21:29
tekisuijust be carefull21:29
ThermoriaxPossibly dumb question, but...I can move a LUKS encrypted drive to another machine and access it as long as I have the passphrase, right?21:31
Guest82I have secure boot off because I heard it can affect drivers, but other than that, none of my other bios settings relate to the touch pad21:32
tekisuiok..21:33
d4455dzahi21:34
ElliriaI asked Google how to enable function keys in Ubuntu on Lenovo Ideapad and this was one of the suggestions: Press Fn + Esc to enable Fn Lock and disable the hotkey functionality. After enabling or disabling Hotkey Mode, use the hotkey as follows: Enabled: Use the hotkey function by pressing a single Fx key. Use a legacy Fx function by pressing Fn + Fx key.21:34
ElliriaYou don't have an FN or Fn key somewhere on that keyboard?21:35
ElliriaPossibly down by the Ctrl key.21:36
Guest82I tried the all of the function keys both legacy and normal, but they didn't affect the touchpad21:37
ElliriaIf you can find that Fn key, you can press it and hold it while pressing any function key to get legacy function-key behavior.21:37
Guest82i should also mention that external wireless mouses work fine and show up in xinput and lshw21:39
Guest82honestly i might just give up and buy my own external mouse21:40
Guest82does anyone think upgrading to the newest version of ubuntu will help (it uses a newer kernel i think)21:40
tekisuii read something a new kernel might help with lenovo21:41
ElliriaIt might. You could put it onto a USB stick and boot with it to see how it behaves before committing to it.21:42
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Guest82The touch pad doesn't work on 23.04 with kernal 6.222:05
tekisuihmm22:06
Guest82is that it then? ubuntu just straight up doesnt support my touch pad22:06
tekisuimaybe lenovo can provide an answer22:06
Guest82guess ill contact support22:11
jeremy31Guest82: post URL from terminal for > sudo dmesg | grep -i i2c| nc termbin.com 999922:16
Guest82jeremy31: I get an error22:23
Guest82nc: getaddrinfo for host "termbin.com" port 9999: Temporary failure in name resolution22:23
jeremy31Guest82: no internet on it?22:26
Guest82oh it disconected me from wifi for some reason, let me try again22:28
Guest82termbin.com/nucn22:28
jean-loupswhat the visioconference software proposal in pub at the install of ubuntu ?22:41
Guest82jean-loups: are you talking about the open source vs proprietary drivers?22:46
sarnoldjean-loups: I think the slideshow images are on https://git.launchpad.net/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/tree/22:54
jean-loupsno the software for visio22:58
jean-loupsi don´t remeber22:58
jean-loupsremember22:58
sarnoldinkscape?22:59
jean-loupsnot for vector draw, for vidéo conferencing23:00
jean-loupsneed go sleeping earlier23:05
jean-loups1 am in france23:05
tekisuibonne nuit23:05
jeremy31Guest82: file a bug report23:05
tekisuireve a lit23:05
tekisuiau revoir23:06
jean-loupsnon mais je veux mon logiciel de visioconférence23:06

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