[00:00] <MadLamb> if it doesnt work I can return it, and its not so expensive
[00:00] <coolness> yeah
[00:00] <MadLamb> its worth to pay 27 euros to know
[00:01] <MadLamb> the amount of time I spent struggling with this already...
[00:01] <MadLamb> well, I have to go. Thanks again for the help <3
[00:01] <MadLamb> good night
[00:01] <coolness> night
[04:39] <Assid> hi.. so i have unbound which was installed with default ubuntu server..  and its set to 127.0.0.53 as per default.. however, I cant find the config where it looks for an upstream nameserver to query
[05:38] <rfm> Assid, I never heard of unbound before but it appears to be a pure cache, depending on  the system you're running it one haveing a working DNS config (which would be in netplan on a vanilla ubuntu_server.)
[05:48] <rfm> Assid, looking further, maybe I'm wrong. Looks like unbound goes straight to the root servers, configd in /var/lib/unbound/root.hints  (and no reason to ever change them...)
[07:11] <vershan> i want to upgrade ubuntu from 22.04 to 23.10. when i do a dist-upgrade. I dont see anything available. I've ensure that I have the option ticketed for any newer versions saved
[07:11] <vershan> 23.04
[07:11] <lotuspsychj3> !upgrade | vershan
[07:12] <guiverc> vershan, currently 22.04 only provides a support path to the next release, which is 22.10.
[07:12] <vershan> @guiverc, can i get there please
[07:12] <guiverc> the only supported upgrade path to 23.10 is from the prior release (ie. 23.04 to 23.10)
[07:13] <vershan> how do i upgrade tom 22.04 to 22.10
[07:13] <guiverc> vershan, I'll suggest reading the release notes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KineticUpgrades
[07:14] <guiverc> also be aware that 22.10 is nearing its EOL (later this month)... so you'll need to move to 23.04 very soon
[07:14] <lotuspsychj3> vershan: also be aware your plan, is moving from an LTS to a non-LTS ubuntu release
[07:14] <lotuspsychj3> ogra: ^ (war)
[07:14] <guiverc> https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2023/06/14/ubuntu-22-10-kinetic-kudu-reaches-end-of-life-on-july-20-2023/
[07:15] <guiverc> (after 22.10 is EOL, you will be able to upgrade from 22.04 to 23.04 as it'll be the next release, but currently that is 22.10...)
[07:15] <vershan> @guiverc, ive done that its not finding 22.10
[07:16] <guiverc> Release notes for Ubuntu 22.10 are here - https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/kinetic-kudu-release-notes/27976
[07:17] <guiverc> vershan, its there; the upgrade will download https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release to see what's available where you'll note Supported: 1 against 22.10.. so you've other issues (network? sources issue? not fully upgraded? etc)
[07:18] <lotuspsychj3> vershan: check your software&sources icon, to see if you got LTS releases only ticked?
[07:18] <guiverc> fyi:  to go to 23.10 the `-d` flag is used & this metafile is used; which shows releases expected if you look - https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-development
[07:18] <guiverc> :) lotuspsychj3
[07:21] <vershan> @guiverc, still doesnt find 22.10 as a new version. it just says everything up to date
[07:22] <guiverc> thus I'd not consider what lotuspsychj3 as being a valid reason (ie. if your system being a LTS has been told to only offer upgrades to another LTS, it will ignore 22.10/23.04/23.10 anyway)
[07:22] <guiverc> sorry ; I'd CONSIDER -- the not was a booboo !
[07:22] <guiverc> I concur with what lotuspsychj3 said - what I'm trying to say!
[07:23] <vershan> my system is ser for any newer versions and not LTS
[07:23] <vershan> Does ESM repos have anything to do with this?
[07:24] <guiverc> I'd check your sources (all lines are present,), they're updated (sudo apt update, with no errors/warnings etc), all upgrades applied (sudo apt full-upgrade) then try again..
[07:24] <guiverc> I can't answer that sorry vershan (ESM repos)... I don't know enough about their use sorry
[07:25] <vershan> @guiverc, yeah ALL sources updated - no errors and upgraded no errors
[07:26] <vershan> is there a command from the terminal to force an upgrade maybe?
[07:28] <guiverc> do-release-upgrade comes to mind, which would be in the kineticupgrades link I provided I'd bet (server bit; but it works for desktop installs too)
[07:28] <guiverc> also please don't use the `-d` as per the doc I provided.. it's NO LONGER NEEDED
[07:28] <vershan> @guiverc, that works thanks
[07:29]  * guiverc it was required when that doc was first published 
[07:29] <vershan> not sure why update-manager -d doesnt find anything
[07:31] <guiverc> the `-d` shouldn't be used; that doc I provided was outdated (-d was needed in early days after 22.10's release; hasn't been needed for awhile!)... the `-d` would have been a problem as that's now 23.10
[07:31] <guiverc> -d would have used the second metafile I provided (ie. 23.04 to 23.10 only! doc)
[07:32]  * guiverc wonders if I should remove the `-d` from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KineticUpgrades  (given it now creates issues)
[07:33] <weedmic> just a suggestion, why not have an option in muon or synaptic - "new version available" "click to upgrade"?
[07:50]  * guiverc removed the `-d` from kineticupgrades page
[08:06] <weedmic> guiverc: that was quick - nice
[08:23] <liceDibrarian> could someone link me to the offtopic channel, using a separate client here so I don't have all my channels copied over
[08:24] <EriC^^> liceDibrarian: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:50] <liceDibrarian> thanks EriC^^
[08:55] <EriC^^> no problem liceDibrarian
[09:21] <Beladona> I want to change mouse pointer (to a larger size and possible to a different color). Everytime I set it, and open a new app in awesomewm, it reverts it back to the normal/original one. How can i do it? Currently I am doing it like this `xsetroot -xcf /usr/local/share/icons/redglass/cursors/top_left_arrow 64` I use freebsd 13.2 but I am hopeful this
[09:21] <Beladona> is same in Linux as well as I also use ubuntu.
[09:28] <weedmic> any chance you are using kde?  i do now know gnome.
[09:28] <weedmic> Beladona: ^
[09:29] <Beladona> no
[10:02] <u8353v[m]> My /lost+found folder when i EXT4 formated SSD and flash drive where with the orange locker.
[10:02] <u8353v[m]> Now just a regular folder!
[10:02] <u8353v[m]> I read we should leave it there! But considering the orange locker icon is gone is it really needed?
[10:03] <u8353v[m]> s///
[10:07] <lesshaste> is there any tool that can do OCR on a page of handwritten notes?
[10:23] <ppw> have you tried tesseract?
[10:25] <weedmic> anyone familiar with inkscape?  I need to fill an svg image in one spot with a specific colour and am having finding the palatte to edit.
[12:10] <Beladona> I want to change mouse pointer (to a larger size and possible to a different color). Everytime I set it, and open a new app in awesomewm, it reverts it back to the normal/original one. How can i do it? Currently I am doing it like this `xsetroot -xcf /usr/local/share/icons/redglass/cursors/top_left_arrow 64` I use freebsd 13.2 but I am hopeful this
[12:10] <Beladona> is same in Linux as well as I also use ubuntu.
[12:15] <weedmic> which desktop environment are you using Beladona
[12:19] <weedmic> you may wish to try #awesomewm Beladona - I don't know anyone who uses that
[12:27] <ogra> Beladona, you could instead try to export things like XCURSOR_THEME= and XCURSOR_SIZE= somewhere in your session start scripts (not sure that works in such a bare setup though, depends how well your session is set up, it surely works on gnome and KDE)
[12:37] <Beladona> weedmic awesomwm. noone in that channel replies.
[12:37] <Beladona> ogra trying
[12:38] <Beladona71> ogra ` export XCURSOR_SIZE=64` didn't do anuything
[12:42] <ogra> Beladona71, ah, sad ... (as i said, i know it works in gnome and KDE, but tey set up their sessions in a more complex way i guess)
[12:43] <nteodosio> Beladona71, did you put that in your ~/.profile? It works here on dwm.
[12:50] <konrados> Hey, there's a Linux server with multiple users, including "mike". There's a directory at /var/www/html/servers/primary/sysrq.net.pl/lab/xl/ and here's the situation: the group needs to be "www-data" because the nginx process runs under that user.
[12:50] <konrados> At the same time, I can't grant access to every user on the server.
[12:50] <konrados> I am the owner of the directory, "konrad", with the group "www-data" (that needs to remain the same).
[12:50] <konrados> How can I grant access to the user "mike" only for that specific directory, while still maintaining access for myself ("konrad")?
[12:50] <konrados> Do I really have to create another user, let's say "developer", and then assign permissions for that directory? Or is there a simpler option?
[12:50] <konrados> Without ACL?
[12:51] <konrados> Oh, sorry for the many messages, it was copy and paste :)
[12:52] <Beladona71> nteodosio I used .xinitrc and put the xetroot in it
[12:52] <Beladona71> then exec aswesome on second line
[12:53] <nteodosio> Beladona71, but where did you export XCURSOR_SIZE?
[12:53] <Beladona71> if I run xsetroot -xcf /usr/local/share/icons/redglass/cursors/top_left_arrow 64    on terminal. It does changes the cursor. but later when i launch an app, it reverts
[12:54] <Beladona71> 64 is the cursor size
[12:54] <Beladona71> export XCURSOR_SIZE=64   in terminal does nothing
[12:55] <nteodosio> I'd think xsetroot only applies to the root window (i.e. the "wallpaper").
[12:55] <nteodosio> Try `XCURSOR_SIZE=64 xlogo`, does it work on that window?
[12:57] <Beladona71> try this where?
[12:57] <nteodosio> Open a terminal, enter that command, and put the cursor in the new window that opens.
[12:58] <tomreyn> konrados: create a developer *group*, add anyone who should have write (or read) access (incl. www-data, if needed), and chown the directory / files to that group and mayke it sticky.
[12:59] <Beladona71> nteodosio brb
[13:00] <proceEd> Hello friends. I have a VirtualBox instances of Ubuntu that I use on my Macbook. Its about 6 months old and not a lot of customizarions. today just out of the blue it said "Failed to download repository information" when running the software update. Nothing else. I dont think i have any crazy repos running. what is the best way to fix?
[13:03] <ravage> proceEd: and what version of Ubuntu?
[13:03] <konrados> tomreyn - thanks, but I don't get it :( Can a group belong to another group? Like "devloper" group belonging to "www-data" group:
[13:04] <tomreyn> konrados: no, but users can be in multiple groups
[13:05] <tomreyn> if www-data is in the developer group, than anything the developer group has permissions to, www-data has permissions to as well
[13:05] <konrados> Yes, but tomreyn - I have read many times, that I should not add a user to the www-data group
[13:05] <tomreyn> and i'm not saying you should do that
[13:05] <konrados> So, what should I do?
[13:06] <Beladona71> nteodosio a logo icon appears as a new window. but cursor remains same on ubuntu. nothing happened on freebsd
[13:06] <tomreyn> i'm suggesting you could add the www-data *user* to a developer *group*
[13:06] <Beladona71> brb
[13:06] <nteodosio> Beladona71, if you put the cursor on the logo, does it change size or stay the sAME?
[13:07] <nteodosio> ^Accidental caps lock (:
[13:07] <tomreyn> konrados: be aware though that this means that anything the developer group has access to can effectively be exposed to the web
[13:07] <konrados> tomreyn, thanks, I'll be back :)
[13:07] <konrados> yes, that is my problem!
[13:08] <proceEd> ravage: Ubuntu 22.04.2
[13:08] <konrados> tomreyn, so, maybe creating a new user is the best option?
[13:09] <ravage> proceEd: paste the output you get
[13:09] <ravage> !paste | proceEd
[13:10] <tomreyn> konrados: i understand that your use case is this: you have two human managed (login) users on a server, both need to be able to edit some files. these files also need to be exposed to the web, so www-data should also have the same level of access to them. the easiest way to achieve this is a joint group for the three users. pick a good name to indicate its purpose.
[13:11] <tomreyn> if you need different access levels of these users on these files, though, you'll need to do it differently.
[13:11] <proceEd> thanks ravage. its https://dpaste.com/2CXMUE54P
[13:11] <tomreyn> konrados: i.e. if the web server user should only be able to read, not write, you'll need to use a different approach. but your explanation didn'T cover such details.
[13:12] <ravage> proceEd: you added third party package sources that are no longer available
[13:12] <konrados> No, only one dir, tomreyn - I want to give access to all the devs, write and read. Trying to understand what you said :)
[13:13] <konrados> I don't understand "a joint group", what is that?
[13:13] <gordonjcp> how do you get the Ubuntu 23.04 installer to work?
[13:14] <bparker> by booting it?
[13:14] <konrados> on pendrive, or virtualbox
[13:14] <tomreyn> konrados: a group which multiple users are a member of
[13:15] <gordonjcp> it gets as far as asking for a username and hostname then just disappears
[13:15] <gordonjcp> there's no sign that the installer is doing anything
[13:15] <gordonjcp> clicking on the icon for it just starts the installer up again
[13:15] <tomreyn> konrados: we could also call it a "common group" for these users.
[13:15] <konrados> I guess you have some hardware issue, gordonjcp
[13:15] <ravage> konrados: https://www.section.io/engineering-education/user-groups-and-permissions-linux/
[13:15] <gordonjcp> konrados: why would you guess that?
[13:16] <konrados> Intuition.
[13:16] <gordonjcp> okay cool
[13:16] <gordonjcp> konrados: the computer works perfectly in every regard
[13:16] <konrados> ravage, thanks, thanks tomreyn,
[13:17] <gordonjcp> konrados: there are no hardware faults, as evidenced by the fact that 22.04 works just fine on it
[13:17] <konrados> gordonjcp, how do you "install" ubuntu?
[13:17] <gordonjcp> konrados: with the installer
[13:18] <gordonjcp> konrados: boot the USB stick, click on "Install Ubuntu"
[13:18] <ravage> gordonjcp: try https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/23.04/release/ubuntu-23.04-desktop-legacy-amd64.iso
[13:18] <gordonjcp> ravage: that's what I'm using
[13:18] <konrados> Via pendrive? gordonjcp? Try another pendrive.
[13:18] <gordonjcp> konrados: this is a known-good drive
[13:19] <gordonjcp> konrados: in fact, it's the one I recently installed 22.04 onto this machine from, about an hour ago
[13:19] <proceEd> ravage: that makes sense. best way to remove them?
[13:19] <ravage> proceEd: yes
[13:19] <gordonjcp> konrados: two identical brand new SSDs, one with 22.04 on, one which is supposed to have 23.04 on
[13:19] <konrados> I still believe it's hardware, gordonjcp :) Try another pendrive. And a different cable.
[13:20] <gordonjcp> konrados: okay great, it's not hardware
[13:20] <gordonjcp> if it was hardware neither would work
[13:20] <gordonjcp> konrados: PC hardware is either 100% faulty or 100% working, there is no in-between
[13:21] <ravage> proceEd: try https://github.com/ericj112/ppa-tool
[13:21] <konrados> OK, maybe my intuition failed :)
[13:21] <tomreyn> gordonjcp: did you verify the 23.04 iso image, both the one downloaded, and the one written on the stick?
[13:21] <gordonjcp> it doesn't have some magically faulty cable that can detect what bits are flowing over it
[13:21] <gordonjcp> tomreyn: yes
[13:21] <tomreyn> gordonjcp: how?
[13:22] <u8353v[m]> I  `sudo cryptsetup luksFormat /dev/sdX`... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/0903d472a4237b1938eb6ea7df381d206f3a499d>)
[13:24] <ogra> gordonjcp, whats the reason you are using the (not very well supported anymore) legacy image and not the current one ?
[13:24] <konrados> ^
[13:25] <ogra> the actual image is here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/23.04/ubuntu-23.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[13:30] <gordonjcp> ogra: I have tried various images, including beta releases
[13:31] <gordonjcp> ogra: it's okay though, the general plan was to test if some packaged worked in 23.04 and this is sufficient to prove that they cannot be supported
[13:31] <ogra> have you tried this specific official release iso though ?
[13:31] <gordonjcp> ogra: yes
[13:31] <ogra> so you should definitely open a bug then ...
[13:32] <ravage> it is also very unlikely that the normal desktop iso and the legacy installer show the exact same error
[13:33] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:36] <konrados> Hi, BluesKaj :)
[13:36] <BluesKaj> hi konrados
[13:46] <proceEd> ravage: thanks for your help. I removed the bad packaged (jammy release from launchpadcontent.net). I have no idea why that was there.
[14:04] <natewrench> http://termbin.com/lug0
[14:05] <ravage> !pro | natewrench
[14:20] <natewrench> ravage: 25 usd a year is great for 10 year support = 25*10 = 250 compared to windows 11 at 199 usd which comes with 10 years of support yea it is 49 dollars more than windows 11 but i think it will more than make up for the cost.
[14:21] <lotuspsychj3> natewrench: 5 machines are free for personal use
[14:30] <ogra> natewrench, note that it isnt just for 10y support but for free additional security fixes for universe (25k packages) that have not existed before
[14:32] <natewrench> ogra: oh cool
[14:36] <fyrecraft> amogus
[14:37] <jhutchins> Wouldn't a better comparison be with RHEL?
[14:39] <ogra> jhutchins, RHEL allows 5 (or 50 if you are an official community member) free machines ? would be news to me 🙂
[14:40] <ravage> It is a better comparison than to Windows
[14:40] <ravage> I think that is what he meant
[14:40] <ravage> But we get OT again
[14:41] <ogra> well, its a better comparison no matter what you compare it to 😉
[14:41] <ogra> but yeah, you are correct ... this should be in #ubuntu-discuss
[14:56] <webchat11> Hello, is anyone familiar with the landscape-api snap? I am trying to use the create-script-attachment method, but the syntax is completely unclear.
[14:59] <fdan> We have an access log file. We need a solution for managing log size.We want to have the logs only for the last 5 days. what are the solutions. currently we use fluentd
[15:00] <OutOfService> hi people
[15:00] <OutOfService> does ubuntu's install iso kernel support dns resolving?
[15:01] <OutOfService> I need to pass some parameters to kernel (nfsroot, for example), and it only work woth ip, but not using dns. Something like nfsmountÇ: can't parsde ip address 'my.dns.name'
[15:02] <OutOfService> I know dnsmasq is using the correct dhcp options, and dns server is one of the options it provides
[15:02] <OutOfService> so... as people say on #ipxe, the kernel semms not to have support to resolve dns names, right?
[15:03] <ogra> not the kernel but the initrd should
[15:03] <ogra> the nfs mounting usually happens from the initrd in ubuntu, not directly from the kernel
[15:03] <leftyfb> OutOfService: the linux kernel doesn't do DNS. That is for userland programs. As ogra mentioned, as part of initrd
[15:04] <OutOfService> so, then what it seems to happen is that initrd is already not loaded at that moment, right?
[15:04] <ogra> that said, i'm not sure what kind fo client we ship in the initrd
[15:04] <ogra> *of client
[15:04] <OutOfService> imgargs vmlinuz modprobe.backlist=megaraid_sas initrd=initrd netboot=nfs ip=dhcp nfsroot=${server}:${root_path}/images/${os_root}/
[15:05] <OutOfService> where server could be an ip or a dns
[15:05] <ogra> long ago it used to be klibc's ... might then have moved to isc-dhcpc
[15:05] <OutOfService> as you can se, i load both vmlinuz and initrd
[15:11] <leftyfb> OutOfService: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v5.7/admin-guide/nfs/nfsroot.html
[15:11] <Jakov> how to remove more then one file in one command in ubuntu?
[15:11] <leftyfb> nfsroot=[<server-ip>:]<root-dir>[,<nfs-options>]
[15:11] <Jakov> tried 1) rm file file file 2) rm file && file && file
[15:11] <leftyfb> Jakov: rm /path/to/file1 /path/to/file2 /path/to/file3
[15:12] <webchat11> My problem with the landscape-api and the syntax is about the file parameter: Help command:
[15:12] <webchat11> landscape-api help create-script-attachment
[15:12] <webchat11> usage: landscape-api create-script-attachment <script-id> <file>
[15:12] <webchat11> Add a script attachment.
[15:12] <webchat11> positional arguments:
[15:12] <webchat11>   <script-id>  The identity of the script to add the attachment to.
[15:12] <leftyfb> !paste | webchat11
[15:13] <leftyfb> OutOfService: I don't think kernel paramters like nfsroot support hostnames*(DNS) since the kernel is loaded before initramfs which has the resolver
[15:14] <leftyfb> OutOfService: the documentation for nfsroot specifically states "server-ip" as the option
[15:15] <webchat11> sorry for that, here is the paste: https://dpaste.com/DWR7LBXXL the file parameter does not work for me in any way and the documentation does not help
[15:16] <OutOfService> leftyfb I'll have a look. thanks so much!!
[15:18] <leftyfb> webchat11: landscape is a commercial product from Canonical and AFAIK, supported by Canonical and not the community. You could try #ubuntu-server, but still, I'm pretty sure contacting Canonical or the landscape team would be your best bet
[15:19] <webchat11> I have not had to much luck with that in the past, waiting for a reply... thanks
[15:51] <imi> hi, so there is this 2fa thing. there are services which asks for a secondary, time based "password". is there a linux app which can generate these secondary, time based "passwords"?
[15:53] <ogra> imi, https://snapcraft.io/2fa
[15:54] <ogra> or https://snapcraft.io/smart2fa ... https://snapcraft.io/easy2fa ...
[15:55] <ogra> https://snapcraft.io/authme looks good as well
[16:09] <imi> ok thanks
[17:11] <ursa> Can someone on latest LTS grep the kernel config file for CONFIG_NTFS3_FS and tell me if ubuntu has it enabled?
[17:16] <alkisg> $ grep CONFIG_NTFS3_FS /boot/config-5.19.0-46-generic
[17:16] <alkisg> CONFIG_NTFS3_FS=m
[17:16] <alkisg> CONFIG_NTFS3_FS_POSIX_ACL=y
[17:16] <alkisg> ursa: ^
[17:17] <ursa> thanks, that's surprising
[17:17] <ursa> looks like ubuntu is doing better job than debian
[17:30] <jilocasin> afternoon everyone.
[17:31] <jilocasin> does anyone know where I can find some info regarding an nfs4 group permissions issue on an ubuntu 22.04 server client?
[17:43] <plt2> Using this script why is spamd failing to connect please https://pastebin.com/LbUghvM0
[18:20] <sarnold> plt2: --sport 53 on lines 8 and 9 feel out of place
[18:20] <sarnold> plt2: what software do you expect to connect to your site from a source port of 53 and go to any of the high ports?
[20:08] <compooteruser> hi bruhs
[20:08] <compooteruser> later bruhs
[21:08] <superkuh> Big yikes, https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/07/ubuntu-23-10-new-app-store-deb-support
[21:09] <oerheks> take that to #ubuntu-discuss, superkuh
[21:09] <superkuh> Thanks.
[21:10] <lsd|2> kubuntu 23.04 doesnt wake up from suspend. wayland in use, didnt try on x11 but should survive suspending
[21:11] <lsd|2> where to search, ideas, pastes?
[21:12] <lsd|2> hard death, no screen on, no backlight lighting up on keyboard
[21:30] <ursa> lsd|2: A lot of that happening lately, probably some kernel issue.
[21:30] <ursa> Suspend is a problem on linux because it's very windows-focused.
[21:31] <lsd|2> i checked now on x11 still same
[21:38] <kai_> heya i am trying to get virtualbox guest additions to work with lubuntu 23.04 with no joy
[21:41] <kai_>  /list
[21:41] <kai_> woops
[22:10] <jhutchins> kai: What steps have you taken so far?
[22:11] <jhutchins> kai: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[23:12] <plt2> Exmin is not logging the client ip adress which is the stanard in the socket lib https://pastebin.com/EJuiCvZa
[23:12] <plt2> I checked the syslog and mail.log and its not in there