xu-contribute8wWhy is xfce4-screensaver still at 4.16? This version crashes when you try to unlock the screen https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-screensaver/+bug/201592208:04
-ubottu:#xubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2015922 in xfce4-screensaver (Ubuntu) "xfce4-screensaver blanks screen multiple times while trying to unlock the screen" [Undecided, Confirmed]08:04
xu-contribute8wThe xfce4 metapackage is at 4.18 ..and I'm using Xubuntu 23.04 btw08:06
Unit193Pretty sure xfce4-screensaver 4.18 was a much later release.08:06
xu-contribute8wWould be nice if there was some way to lift the screensaver. One would think that being able to unlock your computer after the screensaver activates is a pretty important feature :)09:00
xu-contribute8wI installed Xubuntu on 3 different computers when I convinced my wife to finally ditch Windows.. had to uninstall the screensaver on 2 of them, but I want her to be able to lock her laptop so that's not an option09:01
xu-contribute8wSorry for the negative tone. I have used Xubuntu a lot in the past and had a very good experience, I'm just a bit frustrated with this issue and surprised that it's been around for such a long time09:02
Unit193I mean, I certainly don't mind the "tone" since you're not just screaming "fixit your crap is broken" :P  screensavers do seem to be a problem point for Linux as a whole, light-locker works for some but it also ends up being quite broken for others, xfce4-screensaver...well it works where it works, but on others it may crash or something, xscreensaver isn't problem free either.  On one system I 09:05
Unit193actually switched to i3lock since that worked well on that system, but it wouldn't be the most user friendly.09:05
Unit193We do have a backports PPA that you could try getting the latest version of xfce4-screensaver and checking if that works for you any better?09:07
xu-contribute8wI felt like I was starting to get a bit sarcastic, and I didn't want to come across as rude towards FOSS maintainers/developers. I know it's an un-thankful work, and that users shouldn't demand people do things for them09:08
Unit193(https://gitlab.xfce.org/apps/xfce4-screensaver/-/issues/1 is the one I almost referenced.)09:09
-ubottu:#xubuntu-devel- Issue 1 in apps/xfce4-screensaver "xfce4-screensaver on laptop: lid action with suspend/resume shows desktop content instead of lock-screen window" [Opened]09:09
Unit193As for the backports, https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/staging09:12
xu-contribute8wThanks! Any risk of updating other packages to something unstable by adding the staging ppa?09:13
Unit193Well, it's got *every* Xfce package in there, so there could be regressions.  But they're of the stable release so they *should* be just fine.09:14
xu-contribute8wI'll give it a try.09:15
xu-contribute8wI also have a strange possibly screen-saver related issue on one of the other computers, where I uninstalled xfce4-screensaver.. DPMS is disabled if I check with xset -q, but it still seems like something turns off the display when it's been idle for a while. Everything is also disabled in the energy settings. The problem is that the only way I've09:19
xu-contribute8wfound to wake the display is to switch to a different tty (ctrl-alt-F2), suspend the computer, wake the computer, and switch back to the graphical desktop.. I don't expect anyone here to help me troubleshoot it, but is it something you recognize off the top of your head?09:19
Unit193Not offhand, but what you could do just to make sure is disable xfce4-power-manager, or try putting it in presentation mode, and see if it still happens.  With xfpm disabled, you could also look into /etc/systemd/logind.conf09:24
xu-contribute8wxfce4-screensaver from staging appears to have fixed the unlocking issue!09:29
xu-contribute8wI'll try disabling power manager on the other computer. thanks!09:29
Unit193Fantastic news!  I'm glad to know that it works better at least for some.09:31

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