[08:04] <xu-contribute8w> Why is xfce4-screensaver still at 4.16? This version crashes when you try to unlock the screen https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-screensaver/+bug/2015922
[08:04] -ubottu:#xubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2015922 in xfce4-screensaver (Ubuntu) "xfce4-screensaver blanks screen multiple times while trying to unlock the screen" [Undecided, Confirmed]
[08:06] <xu-contribute8w> The xfce4 metapackage is at 4.18 ..and I'm using Xubuntu 23.04 btw
[08:06] <Unit193> Pretty sure xfce4-screensaver 4.18 was a much later release.
[09:00] <xu-contribute8w> Would be nice if there was some way to lift the screensaver. One would think that being able to unlock your computer after the screensaver activates is a pretty important feature :)
[09:01] <xu-contribute8w> I installed Xubuntu on 3 different computers when I convinced my wife to finally ditch Windows.. had to uninstall the screensaver on 2 of them, but I want her to be able to lock her laptop so that's not an option
[09:02] <xu-contribute8w> Sorry for the negative tone. I have used Xubuntu a lot in the past and had a very good experience, I'm just a bit frustrated with this issue and surprised that it's been around for such a long time
[09:05] <Unit193> I mean, I certainly don't mind the "tone" since you're not just screaming "fixit your crap is broken" :P  screensavers do seem to be a problem point for Linux as a whole, light-locker works for some but it also ends up being quite broken for others, xfce4-screensaver...well it works where it works, but on others it may crash or something, xscreensaver isn't problem free either.  On one system I 
[09:05] <Unit193> actually switched to i3lock since that worked well on that system, but it wouldn't be the most user friendly.
[09:07] <Unit193> We do have a backports PPA that you could try getting the latest version of xfce4-screensaver and checking if that works for you any better?
[09:08] <xu-contribute8w> I felt like I was starting to get a bit sarcastic, and I didn't want to come across as rude towards FOSS maintainers/developers. I know it's an un-thankful work, and that users shouldn't demand people do things for them
[09:09] <Unit193> (https://gitlab.xfce.org/apps/xfce4-screensaver/-/issues/1 is the one I almost referenced.)
[09:09] -ubottu:#xubuntu-devel- Issue 1 in apps/xfce4-screensaver "xfce4-screensaver on laptop: lid action with suspend/resume  shows desktop content instead of lock-screen window" [Opened]
[09:12] <Unit193> As for the backports, https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/staging
[09:13] <xu-contribute8w> Thanks! Any risk of updating other packages to something unstable by adding the staging ppa?
[09:14] <Unit193> Well, it's got *every* Xfce package in there, so there could be regressions.  But they're of the stable release so they *should* be just fine.
[09:15] <xu-contribute8w> I'll give it a try.
[09:19] <xu-contribute8w> I also have a strange possibly screen-saver related issue on one of the other computers, where I uninstalled xfce4-screensaver.. DPMS is disabled if I check with xset -q, but it still seems like something turns off the display when it's been idle for a while. Everything is also disabled in the energy settings. The problem is that the only way I've
[09:19] <xu-contribute8w> found to wake the display is to switch to a different tty (ctrl-alt-F2), suspend the computer, wake the computer, and switch back to the graphical desktop.. I don't expect anyone here to help me troubleshoot it, but is it something you recognize off the top of your head?
[09:24] <Unit193> Not offhand, but what you could do just to make sure is disable xfce4-power-manager, or try putting it in presentation mode, and see if it still happens.  With xfpm disabled, you could also look into /etc/systemd/logind.conf
[09:29] <xu-contribute8w> xfce4-screensaver from staging appears to have fixed the unlocking issue!
[09:29] <xu-contribute8w> I'll try disabling power manager on the other computer. thanks!
[09:31] <Unit193> Fantastic news!  I'm glad to know that it works better at least for some.