| Bebef | Hello \o | 06:44 |
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| Bebef | Are old (LTS) releases removed from the mirror(s) at a given time? Looking at a mirror that has trusty and even older releases still available, but I'm not sure if that's a general thing or just this mirror. | 06:49 |
| Berge | Bebef: They are. | 06:52 |
| Berge | Bebef: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ has an archive for old releases | 06:53 |
| Berge | And http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ for apt repos | 06:53 |
| Bebef | Berge: Thanks. Is there a rule for the removal? Something like "may get removed the day after the EOL date" or something the like? | 06:58 |
| Berge | Bebef: hm | 07:00 |
| Berge | Bebef: Do you mean releases, or archive? | 07:01 |
| Berge | I'm not with Canonical, and I don't know if there's a set policy | 07:02 |
| Bebef | Releases. So basically, when will "apt install" cease to work. | 07:02 |
| Berge | That's archive, not releases (-: | 07:02 |
| Fluor | That's archive ;) | 07:02 |
| Fluor | also, a mirror could choose not to run --delete, right? | 07:02 |
| Fluor | if their storage is endless? | 07:02 |
| Berge | Bebef: In general, I wouldn't bet on availability for non-supported versions | 07:02 |
| Berge | Fluor: It could, of course | 07:03 |
| Berge | But that's not what Bebef's asking | 07:03 |
| Fluor | True. | 07:03 |
| Bebef | Yes, that's what I've thought too. I was looking for something like a documented policy as "hard evidence", but I'll take what I can get ;) | 07:03 |
| Berge | Bebef: Out of curiosity, why do you ask? | 07:04 |
| Bebef | *sigh* Arguments against management. | 07:04 |
| Berge | ah | 07:04 |
| Berge | On our mirror (http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/dists/), it seems all LTSes are still there, even Trusty | 07:05 |
| Berge | Which went out of support in like 2019 | 07:05 |
| Berge | Bebef: Hang around here, perhaps someone from Caninocal can give you an answer regarding policy | 07:10 |
| Bebef | Allright, will do, thanks :) | 07:12 |
| barryprice | not sure if it's written down anywhere, so this isn't a policy as such, but generally archive support us kept around until LTS+ESM support expires for a given series | 07:20 |
| barryprice | trusty ESM is still good until I believe April 2024 which is why that's still around | 07:20 |
| barryprice | once a series is moved to old-releases you can repoint /etc/apt/sources.list there to keep using it, but that's obviously not a great idea for general use | 07:21 |
| Berge | LTS is the way to go for long-term support, obvoiusly | 07:22 |
| barryprice | yup, so it is April 2024 for trusty https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases | 07:48 |
| barryprice | so you can expect it to be moved to old-releases not long after then | 07:49 |
| barryprice | "End of Life" is the relevant metric, not "End of Standard Support" | 07:50 |
| barryprice | so kinetic will probably disappear next month (EOL this month), lunar in February (EOL January), and trusty next August or so | 07:51 |
| barryprice | but we'll obviously add new releases in that period as well including an LTS next April, if this is about capacity planning | 07:52 |
| sarnold | I don't think there's a set schedule for moving releases from archive.ubuntu.com to old-releases.ubuntu.com. It's usually a month or two to provide some wiggle-room for people to easily do-release-upgrade from an unsupported release to a supported release, but they do eventually get moved | 19:54 |
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