BebefHello \o06:44
BebefAre old (LTS) releases removed from the mirror(s) at a given time? Looking at a mirror that has trusty and even older releases still available, but I'm not sure if that's a general thing or just this mirror.06:49
BergeBebef: They are.06:52
BergeBebef: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ has an archive for old releases06:53
BergeAnd http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ for apt repos06:53
BebefBerge: Thanks. Is there a rule for the removal? Something like "may get removed the day after the EOL date" or something the like?06:58
BergeBebef: hm07:00
BergeBebef: Do you mean releases, or archive?07:01
BergeI'm not with Canonical, and I don't know if there's a set policy07:02
BebefReleases. So basically, when will "apt install" cease to work.07:02
BergeThat's archive, not releases (-:07:02
FluorThat's archive ;)07:02
Fluoralso, a mirror could choose not to run --delete, right?07:02
Fluorif their storage is endless?07:02
BergeBebef: In general, I wouldn't bet on availability for non-supported versions07:02
BergeFluor: It could, of course07:03
BergeBut that's not what Bebef's asking07:03
BebefYes, that's what I've thought too. I was looking for something like a documented policy as "hard evidence", but I'll take what I can get ;)07:03
BergeBebef: Out of curiosity, why do you ask?07:04
Bebef*sigh* Arguments against management.07:04
BergeOn our mirror (http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/dists/), it seems all LTSes are still there, even Trusty07:05
BergeWhich went out of support in like 201907:05
BergeBebef: Hang around here, perhaps someone from Caninocal can give you an answer regarding policy07:10
BebefAllright, will do, thanks :)07:12
barrypricenot sure if it's written down anywhere, so this isn't a policy as such, but generally archive support us kept around until LTS+ESM support expires for a given series07:20
barrypricetrusty ESM is still good until I believe April 2024 which is why that's still around07:20
barrypriceonce a series is moved to old-releases you can repoint /etc/apt/sources.list there to keep using it, but that's obviously not a great idea for general use07:21
BergeLTS is the way to go for long-term support, obvoiusly07:22
barrypriceyup, so it is April 2024 for trusty https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases07:48
barrypriceso you can expect it to be moved to old-releases not long after then07:49
barryprice"End of Life" is the relevant metric, not "End of Standard Support"07:50
barrypriceso kinetic will probably disappear next month (EOL this month), lunar in February (EOL January), and trusty next August or so07:51
barrypricebut we'll obviously add new releases in that period as well including an LTS next April, if this is about capacity planning07:52
sarnoldI don't think there's a set schedule for moving releases from archive.ubuntu.com to old-releases.ubuntu.com. It's usually a month or two to provide some wiggle-room for people to easily do-release-upgrade from an unsupported release to a supported release, but they do eventually get moved19:54
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