| jrwren | https://stgraber.org/2023/07/10/time-to-move-on/ | 15:37 |
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| jrwren | part of that canonical takes LXD from linuxcontainers.org ^ | 15:37 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, I wondered how long that would be | 15:37 |
| cmaloney | "It’s a bit of a bittersweet moment leaving a company after you’ve invested so much of your time into it, but I believe that now was the right time for me. As I’ve told colleagues and upper management, Canonical isn’t the company I excitedly joined back in 2011 and it’s not a company that I would want to join today, therefore it shouldn’t be a company that I keep working for | 15:37 |
| cmaloney | either." | 15:37 |
| cmaloney | Honestly in 2008 I would have likely sold part of my soul to work for Canonical | 15:38 |
| jrwren | I heard that canonical considers LXD a failed open source project. | 15:38 |
| jrwren | because it failed to get many/any outside contribs. | 15:38 |
| cmaloney | What the ever loving fuck? | 15:38 |
| jrwren | but then, aren't ALL canonical projects failed in that sense? | 15:38 |
| cmaloney | It _just_ _works_ | 15:38 |
| jrwren | juju certainly. | 15:38 |
| jrwren | upstart for sure. | 15:38 |
| cmaloney | I love LXD. I fired Virtualbox in favor of LXD | 15:39 |
| jrwren | yup, LXD is great. | 15:39 |
| jrwren | yeah, 2008 was probably peek canonical. | 15:40 |
| jrwren | i worked there Jul 2014 - Jun 2017 and it was good. | 15:40 |
| jrwren | but I've lasted longer at Cisco ;) | 15:40 |
| cmaloney | https://stgraber.org/2023/07/10/time-to-move-on/#comment-529277 | 15:42 |
| cmaloney | Mark Shuttleworth needs to be given a busybox to control | 15:42 |
| cmaloney | because frankly he's an inept, frustrated, Steve Jobs wannabe | 15:43 |
| jrwren | lol. he used to be so great though! He was going to save us! ;) | 15:43 |
| cmaloney | Never trust any white person from South Africa with a messiah complex. | 15:44 |
| jrwren | LMAO true | 15:45 |
| cmaloney | Well, I look for the enshittification of my workflow, much like what happened with Ubuntu One's "I'm a Dropbox" era. | 15:46 |
| cmaloney | though I blame them trying to scale CouchDB to thousands of users. | 15:46 |
| cmaloney | with not-so-great connections | 15:46 |
| Mooncairn | Time to move to Debian? lol | 15:47 |
| jrwren | it has always been private, so I can't really tell, but I feel like it has always been a loss or break even company. It isn't like Mark needs the money. | 15:47 |
| jrwren | He's been flirting with cash flow for 2 decades now. | 15:47 |
| jrwren | You get weird decisions as a result. | 15:47 |
| jrwren | CouchDB was terrible. | 15:47 |
| jrwren | They are still Ceph lovers AFAICT, which is terrible. | 15:47 |
| cmaloney | Thing is it's not like they do necessarily _bad_ things, but more like just different for the sake of being different | 15:48 |
| cmaloney | like some weird pied piper dragging folks over a cliff | 15:48 |
| jrwren | Luckily, ubuntu is still largely community driven, it is still better than debian for a few thing. | 15:48 |
| jrwren | yes, they have a lot of NIH | 15:48 |
| cmaloney | yeah, though I wonder what sort of NIH they're going to foist on the imutable snap desktop | 15:49 |
| cmaloney | since it seems they're trying to chase Fedora over that cliff | 15:49 |
| cmaloney | I know JOrge has a complete crush on immutable cloud desktops but I remain skeptical | 15:49 |
| cmaloney | much like I was skeptical of the Ubuntu Phone because not even SABDFL has that kind of cash to massage the FCC. | 15:50 |
| cmaloney | nor the patience | 15:50 |
| cmaloney | and by FCC I mean the telecoms that run the FCC. ;) | 15:50 |
| cmaloney | but it seems that short-sighted decisions that ultimately harm the goodwill of the company are abundant | 15:52 |
| cmaloney | *cough*RedHat*cough* | 15:52 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: You'd appreciate this: https://www.jwz.org/blog/2023/07/cabaret-voltaire-welcomes-the-swifties-into-the-fold/ | 15:53 |
| jrwren | LMAO @ the title alone | 15:55 |
| cmaloney | <3 | 15:55 |
| Mooncairn | Holy crap, something deleted most of the directories under /usr/share/doc on my desktop! | 17:31 |
| Mooncairn | Okay, found the culprit. It was a deb with faulty packaging. Good thing I have backups. | 17:42 |
| jrwren | a 3rd party deb, I hope? | 18:19 |
| cmaloney | Ugh | 18:35 |
| cmaloney | Which deb? | 18:35 |
| Mooncairn | Yea, it was a deb created through pacstall. | 19:56 |
| Mooncairn | Neovim | 19:56 |
| Mooncairn | The build recipe used a variable that was undefined, so that instead of 'rm -rf'ing /usr/share/doc/neovim, it removed /usr/share/doc. | 19:57 |
| Mooncairn | That was during the dpkg uninstall script. | 19:57 |
| Mooncairn | In the future I'll need to inspect the scripts and the generated deb before installing anything. | 19:58 |
| Mooncairn | I'd rather use a PPA, but I've yet to find one that has the current stable version of neovim. | 19:59 |
| greg-g | I've found ppa's to be a wasteland, sadly (except in rare cases where it's maintained by some org or known group of folks) | 20:05 |
| jrwren | PPA are a nice dev tool, not a nice user tool. | 20:10 |
| Mooncairn | Is there a better way to find and install debs not maintained by Ubuntu? | 20:11 |
| greg-g | snaps! </sarcasm> | 20:13 |
| Mooncairn | lol | 20:13 |
| Scary_Guy | I'm pretty sure I'd like a snap from Thanos better. | 21:53 |
| Scary_Guy | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DxNuUfUY1Q | 22:20 |
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