[00:12] <topcat001> causative: try creating instead of updating, as in `... -c -k all` instead of `-u`
[00:13]  * topcat001 too late? :)
[00:41] <Work-BWMerlin> I am trying to upgrade my Ubuntu server 20 to 22
[00:42] <Work-BWMerlin> I am following this guide here https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-to-22-04-lts-jammy-jellyfish
[00:42] <causative> topcat001, I have tried that
[00:42] <Work-BWMerlin> When I try and run sudo do-release-upgrade I get an error message saying authenticate 'jammy.tar.gz' against 'jammy.tar.gz.gpg'
[00:42] <causative> here are more details of my problem with LUKS boot not prompting:  https://askubuntu.com/questions/1477559/no-prompt-to-decrypt-luks-partition-on-boot
[00:43] <Work-BWMerlin> I can also a see that Connection failed [IP: 202.158.214.106 80]
[00:44] <sarnold> Work-BWMerlin: maybe try configuring your apt sources to use archive.ubuntu.com instead of aarnet's mirror?
[00:45] <Work-BWMerlin> I am currently using http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[00:45] <Work-BWMerlin> That is what I see when I check /etc/apt/source.list
[00:46] <Work-BWMerlin> I have tried both with and without au
[00:46] <Work-BWMerlin> I have also tried to use aarnet but kept getting an error about no release file being found (probably me configuring the source.list wrong).
[00:48] <sarnold> http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jammy/main/dist-upgrader-all/22.04.10/  hmm there's the tarballs..
[01:07] <causative> where exactly are "volume groups" configured? /etc/fstab only mentions volumes. Is there any configuration associated with volume groups or is it all automatic?
[01:07] <causative> I mean during boot, are volume groups supposed to be discovered automatically, or is there a config file for them?
[01:15] <NickH> There are a bunch of tools for querying lvm stuff. Eg vgs
[01:15] <rfm> causative, you mean LVM volume groups, right?  I believe the info is stored in a "metadata area" on each physical volume, and it should be picked up a boot time (as long as the vg has been imported, or created on this system)
[01:16] <rfm> causative, ...but I am hardly an LVM expert, I use ZFS so I can avoid dealing with it.
[01:23] <causative> I'm kind of confused about how exactly a LUKS partition that contains an LVM volume group is set up to connect (partition name in /dev/) -> (decrypted partition name in /dev/mapper/) -> (name of volume group) -> (name of volumes)
[01:24] <causative> particularly, I don't understand why it matters what the decrypted partition in /dev/mapper is named, unless there is some config file listing that name somewhere and associating it with the volume group
[01:26] <rbox> there is a cache in /etc/lvm
[01:26] <rbox> but pvscan can scan devices for lvm metadata
[01:30] <EriC^^> causative: there's /etc/crypttab
[01:30] <EriC^^> er, nevermind that has the luks name there
[01:45] <causative> I think I have solved the problem and boy is it stupid, cryptsetup was choking on my crypttab because it had no newline at end of file
[01:46] <causative> not that it would tell me that, it was just ignoring the line
[01:47] <causative> the funny thing is that I thought I did test that before and it didn't work but maybe I used the wrong update-initramfs flag at the time
[01:52] <sarnold> causative: OMG
[01:53] <sarnold> causative: I spent an hour trying to find that I had accidentally put an . in there instead of a ,
[03:44] <Fretegi> evening all!
[03:46] <Fretegi> swinging for the fences here.. have a samba share running on Ubuntu server.  using LVM with an XFS FS.  mistakenly deleted the wrong directory.  Looking for a recovery/undelete tool or process, any thoughts?
[03:47] <rbox> Fretegi: https://lmgtfy.app/?q=xfs+undelete
[03:50] <Fretegi> lol thanks for link, already in motion lookin for options via the google.  Most seem to want to use an application and windows, which wont work in my case.  only way i can get a windows system to see the contents would be thru the samba share, which prevent them from working no?
[03:52] <rbox> the fact that its samba and windows is irrelvent
[03:52] <rbox> if you're storing files on xfs
[03:52] <rbox> then you have to recover from xfs
[03:52] <Fretegi> so samba is not hiding any metadata or any other level of data on the share?
[03:53] <rbox> huh?
[03:56] <Fretegi> stated differently, i was under the impression that a client connecting to a samba share would have some attributes of the FS hidden from it, thereby limiting the effectiveness for a client to connecting to the share to run data recovering tools.  is this not the case?
[04:19] <sarnold> Fretegi: if I've understood your question .. your windows clients are *not* going to be able to undelete anything on that samba machine. your options are to do data recovery on that hard drive directly. (You would be better served to use dd to make an identical copy of the hard drive to a file, back that up, and then work on the file.)
[04:26] <Fretegi> sarnold, yes that is exactly what i suspected
[04:27] <Fretegi> i think photorec may work, been working on it for a bit now, wish me luck!
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> photorec rocks
[04:30] <Fretegi> yea no kidding! little tricky setting up but i think its gonna work! wahoo
[04:38] <EriC^^> Fretegi: you could try testdisk first, it would show the deleted dirs and you might be able to recover
[04:39] <EriC^^> at least you'd get to see the old directory structure/file sizes if that's useful for later re-assembling it from the unnamed files photorec would give back
[04:40] <Fretegi> EriC^^, man if i could get that to work that would be great, its an LVM, i get getting an error about FS not supported on testdisk
[04:40] <Fretegi> EriC^^, sure would make it easier, id have a MUCH smaller recovered data set to sort thru ha
[04:41] <EriC^^> Fretegi: hmm try directly 'sudo testdisk /dev/mapper/bla...'
[04:41] <Fretegi> EriC^^, any issues running testdisk in a different terminal session while photorec is also running?
[04:42] <EriC^^> sure why not
[04:42] <Fretegi> EriC^^, hold my beer!
[04:43] <EriC^^> Fretegi: dumb question but you customized the file types photorec will retrieve right? if they were only certain files you can hone in on just those
[04:43] <Fretegi> EriC^^, yup i did that, fortunately only looking for one filetype
[04:44] <EriC^^> ah cool
[04:44] <Fretegi> EriC^^, ya says support for this FS hasnt been implemented still
[04:44] <EriC^^> oh ok
[04:44] <Fretegi> tho for an LVM vol what partition type ya thinkin? i chose none
[04:45] <Fretegi> i tried none, EFI and Intel, no go on any of em
[04:46] <EriC^^> hmm, if you give it the /dev/mapper i think you just hit 'none'
[04:46] <EriC^^> which testdisk version is it? xfs seems to be supported for testdisk
[04:46] <Fretegi> ya when i select none it will at least pick up on the FS being XFS, all the other options say no partition.
[04:47] <Fretegi> testdisk 7.0, and photorec is reading just fine, have found 700 files so far so not sure why testdisk isnt reading
[04:47] <EriC^^> hmm
[04:48] <EriC^^> latest is testdisk 7.1
[04:48] <Fretegi> ah prob my ancient and in need of upgrading Ubuntu version ha
[04:49] <EriC^^> fwiw photorec 7.1 has some more improvements on recovering fragmented files and whatnot
[04:49] <Fretegi> seeing if i can find a .deb for 7.1
[04:50] <Fretegi> this is 16.04 ubuntu, dire need to update, but thats tomorrow's problem
[04:50] <EriC^^> you could download a 22.04 iso and run a live session and do it from there
[04:51] <EriC^^> probably a clean 22.04 install is better from 16.04 as well instead of upgrading 3 times to 22.04
[04:51] <Fretegi> that is true.... good thinking... just spin up the LVM's manually then eh
[04:53] <Fretegi> yea there are some other layout tweaks i intended to do which favored a fresh install as well, but then i keep kickin that can down the road.  Tho i cant conmplain, its running rock solid doing the tasks i built it for ha
[04:53] <Fretegi> appreciate the help tho bud!
[04:54] <Fretegi> Im gonna let this thing run all night, see how many files we run into, may try the 22.04 iso solution tomorrow AM, excellent idea ty ty !
[04:54] <EriC^^> you really should upgrade though, especially if it's connected to the net somehow etc
[04:55] <Fretegi> oh yea it defly needs to be done
[04:55] <EriC^^> running an EOL version is a very bad idea
[04:55] <Fretegi> i get it, been lazy
[04:55] <Fretegi> and dumn
[04:55] <Fretegi> dumb
[04:55] <plt2> Whats up with Ubuntu they are slow updating the php extensions and a lot of them are still on 7.4 when 8.2 is the lastest version
[04:55] <EriC^^> gotcha, anyways np, good luck!
[04:56] <plt2> 7.4 should be eol
[04:57] <plt2> more of the 8.1 php extension should be available
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> !latest | plt2
[04:58] <plt2> apt-cache search 'php 8' no files returned
[04:59] <Fretegi> EriC^^, appreciate it bud thanks again for all the help, greatly appreciate!'
[05:00] <plt2> Linux apps2.professionalsoftwaredevelopment.com 5.4.0-153-generic #170-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jun 16 13:43:31 UTC 2023 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux with there a differnt distro I can use that have the php8 extensions
[05:02] <plt2> Description:    Ubuntu 20.04.6 LTS
[05:03] <plt2> Codename:       focal
[05:09] <plt2> I got it
[05:19] <NickH> plt2: 22.04 ships with php 8.1
[05:20] <tarel2> My Ubuntu come back to and my USB headphone works but  I had to do a lot to hear anything , like  make a  sound file  for my user ,  Can you reinstall Ubuntu
[05:42] <Work-BWMerlin> I am still having trouble running sudo do-release-upgrade
[05:43] <Work-BWMerlin> I have change my mirrors to in.archive.ubuntu.com from au.archive.ubuntu.com as well as tried just archive.ubuntu.com
[05:45] <EriC^^> Work-BWMerlin: what error are you getting?
[05:46] <mikrotrik> do u need help Work-BWMerlin
[06:03] <guiverc> Work-BWMerlin, you've not mentioned your release, but some of what is downloaded for release-upgrade is not from your current mirror (ie. metadata has a specific location that isn't that mirror)... but release details may help
[06:04] <guiverc> eg. meta data for a release-upgrade (non -d) is from https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release  thus mirror won't impact downloading that (ie. what release-upgrades are supported)
[06:08] <tarel2> can you reinstall Ubuntu and only effect the system file and not the  home folder?
[06:10] <NickH> Yes if it is a separate partition
[06:20] <guiverc> tarel2, it's easier with Ubuntu Desktop (& esp. flavors) but you can re-install even if your install is a single partition, and also have the manually-installed packages (if from Ubuntu repositories & internet is connected) auto-reinstalled too...  as system directories are erased though; server app configs will be lost
[06:22] <tarel2> Well, I have a lots of movies in my home partition ,that is why I want to save it.  So I thought if could just redo the system file and not some how touch home I would be good . Is that doable?
[06:23] <tuxinator> Hi everybody
[06:23] <tuxinator> any idea why the first works in a sources file while the second does not when running via Dockerfile building the container? https://dpaste.org/SH06L
[06:23] <tuxinator> The error mentioned is Release file not found, while it exists
[06:23] <tuxinator> ignore the "focal" vs "jammy" thats a copy paste error	
[06:24] <guiverc> You've not said what Ubuntu product, what release you're asking about... Ubuntu has various installers & I've had best success with flavors using ubiquity or calamares... but not the debian-installer (which was only used on now EOSS releases)... thus release detail matters & for some releases (eg. 23.04) multiple ISOs are available
[06:24] <guiverc> tarel2, ^
[06:24] <tarel2> Wow , I did not know there was so many
[06:25] <tarel2> It has been sometime since I had used Ubuntu , I have been using Gentoo for a while and before that openbsd
[06:25] <guiverc> Ubuntu installed I didn't mention are ubuntu-desktop-install & subiquity (subiquity is server; ubuntu-desktop-install replaced ubiquity as default on 23.04.. I've had success but also failures with ubuntu-desktop-installer with package-reinstalls; but NEVER ANY DATA LOSS with it please note!)
[06:26] <guiverc> s/installed/installers ^
[06:26] <tarel2> so you have redone the os file and not last like home folder?
[06:27] <guiverc> use the "Something else" type option (what it's called varies on ISO/installed you grab;e g. it's Manual Partitioning on calamares) & select your existing partition(s) BUT DO NOT FORMAT.. the lack of format means it'll repair/re-install non-destructively
[06:28] <tarel2> wow , I  might have to do that thanks
[06:28] <guiverc> tarel2, I have system(s) here I re-install weekly using a DAILY ISO instead of package upgrades..  It achieves a QA-test of the ISO, I use my own data on the system to ensure no negative consequences & achieve package upgrades due to use of daily --- regarldess BACKUP FIRST anyway; its easy to make a mistake
[06:29] <guiverc> fyi ^ systems do not have separate home partition but do note I mainly QA test flavors & desktop only !  (servers have extra complications I've only just touched on)
[06:30] <tarel2> only desktop , Never used a server for any distro.
[06:30] <tarel2> What is 23 like?
[06:30] <guiverc> tarel2, I've written about it here (https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/testing-checklist-understanding-the-testcases/2743) where it's the "Install using existing partition" testcase we (lubuntu) QA test for... if you want to understand it some
[06:32] <tarel2> You great thanks for that
[06:32] <tarel2> It odd , my USB headphone don't show up
[06:33] <tarel2> I have to make .asoundrc to get the sound working correct and that only works for edge browser by MS
[06:35] <guiverc> 23.04 is newer packages as expected (22.10, 23.04 & 23.10 are all working towards next LTS being 24.04; full development cycle is two years for Ubuntu)
[06:36] <tarel2> SO you used anything beside Ubuntu?
[06:36] <guiverc> for details I'd suggest reading the Release Notes   -- https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/lunar-lobster-release-notes/31910
[06:37] <guiverc> tarel2, this is Ubuntu support; if you want to ask me a question like that you'd need to ping me in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:38] <tarel2> #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:39] <tuxinator> tarel2: What was your original question? I logged in after your question so missed it
[06:40] <tarel2> I just wanted to know if you could reinstall the Ubuntu system with out messing up your home folder , I have movies there is why I ask
[06:42] <tuxinator> tarel2: i most of the time reinstall without changing my home, did that with mageia, ubuntu, kubuntu. however to ensure the installer does nothing wrong, i just install without separate /home partition and then afterwars i configure to mount the old /home partition with the old /etc/fstab entry
[06:42] <tuxinator> and of course backups still make sense, just some weeks ago i found kopia to be a good Backup-Software btw. better (much faster) than backintime
[07:31] <weedmic> any comments on Ubuntu Kylin?  i only know it is closed source, but was developed by scientists and is supposed to be easy for windows users (as it looks/feels like win7.  I suspect it may be spyware, but can't seem to find evidence of that.
[07:31] <mikrotrik_banks> plz change ur name
[07:32] <weedmic> no, it is my family name and has been so since 1282.
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | weedmic
[07:34] <weedmic> np, tks
[07:35] <mikrotrik_banks> were u even born in 1282
[07:35] <mikrotrik_banks> maybe almost as old as debian then
[07:36] <weedmic> !idiscuss | mikrotrik_banks
[07:36] <mikrotrik_banks> !discuss | weedmic
[07:36] <weedmic> !discuss | mikrotrik_banks
[07:37] <mikrotrik_banks> !contribute | weedmic
[07:37] <mikrotrik_banks> please dont talk to talk, people need help weedmic.
[07:37] <mikrotrik_banks> and i am ON IT of course
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> mikrotrik_banks weedmic can you please dont abuse the bot tnx
[07:38] <mikrotrik_banks> lotuspsychje please dont talk to talk, if you need help please let us know, we/i AM ON IT.
[07:38] <mikrotrik_banks> thanks
[07:52] <weedmic> I moved my question to #malware.  As for me, I am, as always, here to help <(")
[07:56] <mikrotrikubunutt> i am also here to help, I AM ON IT i will be helping weedmic in #malware
[09:38] <OnkelTem> Hi folks. I was upgrading software, when saw this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ps7NHK3SzX/
[09:38] <OnkelTem> A lot of messages like W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/yellow_carp_gpu_info.bin for module amdgpu
[09:38] <OnkelTem> So what does this mean, why it started to appear and what am I assumed to do?
[09:39] <EriC^^> OnkelTem: is linux-firmware installed?
[09:39] <EriC^^> apt-cache policy linux-firmware
[09:39] <OnkelTem> EriC^^: let me check please
[09:39] <OnkelTem> EriC^^: yep: 20220329.git681281e4-0ubuntu3.14..
[09:40] <EriC^^> which ubuntu version?
[09:40] <OnkelTem> Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS
[09:40] <EriC^^> !info linux-firmware jammy
[09:40] <EriC^^> looks good
[09:40] <OnkelTem> yep
[09:42] <OnkelTem> I wonder can I just ignore that and proceed to restart
[09:42] <OnkelTem> like, will it boot
[09:43] <EriC^^> if it doesn't you could try to boot into the current (older) kernel in the advanced options in grub, that might work still
[09:45] <EriC^^> OnkelTem: is everything up to date? drivers etc? you could try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" so everything is up to date maybe that helps
[09:46] <Alesha> apt install fonts-unifont
[09:46] <Alesha> apt install fonts-symbola fonts-noto-color-emoji
[09:46] <OnkelTem> EriC^^: yep, you're right. And I forgot about dist-upgrade
[09:46] <OnkelTem> thanks
[09:47] <EriC^^> OnkelTem: no problem
[12:15] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:37] <Tenkawa> Greetings...Anyone currently actively working with RISC-V? I have taken a Lunar image on a VisionFive 2and updated it with the work in progress mainline 6.4 kernel which is working fine with microsd root, usb3 wifi, etc, however the one thing I am running into is any NVME drives being attached via usb (multiple cases and drives) all stop in a Spinning up phase.. I have applied the normal quirks/etc to take uas and such out of the equation however it
[12:37] <Tenkawa>  seems that there is something specific here. Anyone else seen this? I am not seeing this with usb thumbdrives that I tested with.
[12:39] <Tenkawa> my end goal is to move the rootfs to boot from the MVME how I had it before since the SPI is capable of it now.
[12:39] <Tenkawa> s/MVME/NVME
[12:56] <ogra> Tenkawa, perhaps try in #ubuntu-devel ... i think we do no have a dedicated risc-v channel (unlike ubuntu-arm ...)
[12:56] <Tenkawa> Ok.. thanks
[15:02] <zetheroo> Ubuntu 22.04 - a few days ago I noticed my network status icon showing a question mark. It happens on every WiFi/Ethernet network I am on, and I always have Internet connection. Any ideas on why the Internet verification seems to not be working?
[15:27] <nvmd> atheros network devices?
[15:28] <nvmd> I had that problem with those.
[15:43] <zetheroo> no, Intel devices
[16:25] <zniavre> good evening
[16:26] <lotuspsychje> welcome zniavre
[16:26] <zniavre> i want to launch one application in english instead of french, i hav english (us) language pack installed and frenchis there a super command-line to launch apps like i want ?
[16:27] <zniavre> remember something around LC_ but i forgot the way to do it
[16:28] <zniavre> ( the software is easy effect with is strangely translated in french )
[16:28] <zniavre> with / wich *
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> !locale | zniavre can this help?
[16:31] <zniavre> checking ...
[16:31] <zniavre> thank you
[16:32] <jhutchins> zniavre: There is a way to set the language on the command line for just the specific program.
[16:32] <jhutchins> zniavre: (Digging through my notes for the syntax.)
[16:33] <zniavre> jhutchins,  it's what i would want to do yes
[16:33] <jhutchins> zniavre: LANG=C <command>
[16:33] <zniavre> ho
[16:33] <zniavre> trying
[16:35] <zniavre> LANG=C easyeffects  is still french
[16:36] <jhutchins> zniavre: Sorry, that was my best shot.
[16:36] <Tenkawa> just a sec
[16:37] <Tenkawa> substitute your language
[16:37] <Tenkawa> export LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8
[16:37] <Tenkawa> export LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[16:37] <Tenkawa> export LC_ALL=C.UTF-8
[16:37] <Tenkawa> locale-gen en_US.UTF-8
[16:38] <Tenkawa> make sure the 3 exports are called in the login
[16:38] <Tenkawa> before your session starts
[16:38] <jhutchins> Tenkawa: We're shooting for a temporary one-off, not an environment.
[16:38] <Tenkawa> ok.. then you can just drpo the export
[16:38] <Tenkawa> er drop
[16:39] <Tenkawa> LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8 LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LC_ALL=C.UTF-8 command
[16:39] <jhutchins> Still, I'm not sure that LANG=C was complete, I suspect that it should have been en_US.UTF8
[16:39] <zniavre> grrr still in french
[16:39] <zniavre> thank you taking time on this ...   :o)
[16:39] <Tenkawa> do you have locales-all installed?
[16:40] <zniavre> yep enGLISH-US
[16:40] <jhutchins> !info easyeffects
[16:41] <jhutchins> zniavre: I would guess that this method doesn't really work for GUI apps, they probably use the desktop settings.
[16:41] <zniavre> ok trying to log in english   :o)   thank you
[16:41] <Tenkawa> jhutchins: correct... this is for shell
[16:43] <jhutchins> The fun thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from.
[16:43] <Tenkawa> indeed
[16:44] <Tenkawa> We had to add those vars for our image builder to accomodate some non-us keyboards
[16:44] <Tenkawa> (I have an ARM image builder project)
[17:18] <zniavre> hello again it does the trick after a relogin   thank you so much
[17:57] <Tenkawa> zniavre: glad to hear..
[18:21] <webchat15> Hello everyone, I was trying to install a software called usgs-isis and it's so simple and I tried to install it in ubuntu 18.04, 20.04, and 22.04 and I get the following error each time $ conda install -c usgs-astrogeology isis=7.0.0
[18:21] <webchat15> Collecting package metadata (current_repodata.json): done
[18:21] <webchat15> Solving environment: unsuccessful initial attempt using frozen solve. Retrying with flexible solve.
[18:21] <webchat15> Solving environment: unsuccessful attempt using repodata from current_repodata.json, retrying with next repodata source.
[18:21] <eelstrebor> is dell still a good choice for running ubuntu?
[18:21] <webchat15> Collecting package metadata (repodata.json): done
[18:21] <webchat15> Solving environment: unsuccessful initial attempt using frozen solve. Retrying with flexible solve.
[18:22] <eelstrebor> !help
[18:22] <eelstrebor> !dell
[18:23] <eelstrebor> !compatibility
[18:23] <leftyfb> eelstrebor: what do you need help with?
[18:23] <eelstrebor> i'm looking for a new laptop that will run ubuntu
[18:24] <jhutchins> eelstrebor: Yes, Dell is a good choice for compatibility.  Just remember that the more bells and whistles you have, the more can go wrong.
[18:24] <jhutchins> eelstrebor: Also, not every Dell will work out, but mine have been at least 90% for the last ten years or so.
[18:25] <leftyfb> eelstrebor: https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/xps-13-plus-developer-edition/spd/xps-13-9320-laptop/usexcucto9320rpl01
[18:25] <jhutchins> webchat15: I have a feeling you're not using an official repo.
 i'm looking for a new laptop that will run ubuntu  < most laptops will afaik. i have had two lenovo ideapads i got at dicount on sale, lubuntu runs great on them.
[18:25] <webchat15> I try to install a software usgs-isis within an anaconda environment and I'm getting this error with all three distributions mentioned in the title and it's showing that the problem is with the C GNU Library even though I update it each time
[18:25] <webchat15> $ conda install -c usgs-astrogeology isis=7.0.0
[18:25] <webchat15> Collecting package metadata (current_repodata.json): done
[18:25] <webchat15> Solving environment: unsuccessful initial attempt using frozen solve. Retrying with flexible solve.
[18:25] <webchat15> Solving environment: unsuccessful attempt using repodata from current_repodata.json, retrying with next repodata source.
[18:25] <webchat15> Collecting package metadata (repodata.json): done
[18:25] <leftyfb> !paste | webchat15
[18:26] <leftyfb> webchat15: conda is not supported here. Please seek support from the conda project https://docs.conda.io/projects/conda/en/stable/
[18:27] <eelstrebor> in the past dell worked ok with linux but not sure about the current crop. the hcl shows certified dell laptops but they aren't getting great reviews.
[18:29] <eelstrebor> i'm currently considering the Dell Inspiron 7630 but it's not an ubuntu certified laptop
[18:30] <attah> In my experience compatibility hasn't been an issue for like 15 years, unless you get something weird and/or super-budget
[18:30] <attah> That doesn't mean certified is a bad idea...
[18:31] <attah> Or you can get purpose-built, like System76, StarLabs and Tuxedo
[18:31] <eelstrebor> attah, i got ubuntu installed on an hp pavilion but it was such a hassle that i put win 10 back on it
[18:32] <attah> isn't pavillion garbage-tier?
[18:32] <eelstrebor> i looked at system36 Oryx but too pricey for me
[18:33] <eelstrebor> attah, maybe
[18:33] <attah> yeah... barely an option above €/$1000 that counts in solidly in the budget category
[18:34] <eelstrebor> oops, system76, not system 36
[18:34] <attah> HP isn't that great... but my Elitebook at work is just fine under Ubuntu
[18:36] <eelstrebor> well, i'll have to make a decision and hope for the best. it wouldn't be the first time that i bought a laptop that wasn't on ubuntu's certified list but managed to install ubuntu.
[18:38] <Pompo> installed qbittorrent with ubuntu software center GUI
[18:38] <Pompo> I tried also with appimage but same result
[18:38] <Pompo> With Ubuntu 22.04.2 lts you don't see the qbittorrent window when it is launched The program works, there is the small icon-menu at the top right and the icon in the toolbar.
[18:38] <Pompo> You just dont see the main window
[18:38] <Pompo> Never had this problem with precedent Ubuntu version
[18:43] <Pompo> Ubuntu 22.04.2 has some issues with qbittorrent?
[18:53] <Pompo> Ubuntu 22.04.2 qbittorrent issue, someone can help?
[18:54] <Pompo> This is support channel, right?
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> Pompo: when you right click qbittorrents indicator you can show/hide the main window
[18:55] <Pompo> Already tried thx
[18:58] <Pompo> @lotuspsychje is visible only a small version of window when right click on icon toolbar
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> Pompo: can you make a screenshot of that, so the volunteers can see?
[19:01] <Pompo> Ok
[19:23] <Pompo> @lotuspsychje https://i.imgflip.com/7sd3xh.jpg
[19:24] <lotuspsychje> Pompo: thats the dock icon you right mouse clicked, try to right mouse click the qbittorrent indicator in the upper right corner
[19:25] <lotuspsychje> Pompo: you should see a show/hide option in the indicator menu
[19:26] <Pompo> yes i tried and there is only the option "hide" lotuspsychje
[19:27] <Pompo> but the window is already not visible
[19:27] <lotuspsychje> Pompo: are you using several workspaces?
[19:29] <Pompo> no, when i click on "activities" it shows  programs
[19:29] <Pompo> no programs
[19:30] <EriC^^> alt+tab ?
[19:32] <Pompo> with alt tab shows the miniature
[19:33] <Pompo> but when i click on nothing appears
[19:33] <EriC^^> try closing it then start it from the terminal to see any output there
[19:36] <Pompo> i always use the gui installed via ubuntu software
[19:38] <Pompo> i dont know how launch qbittorrent from terminal
[19:39] <EriC^^> Pompo: hmm, try typing 'qbit' and press tab and see if it autocompletes
[19:39] <EriC^^> (in the terminal)
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> Pompo: there are 2 qbittorrent versions in ubuntu software, wich one did you install, the snap or the deb version?
[19:41] <Pompo> i installed the one with ubuntu software gui
[19:44] <lotuspsychje> Pompo: what gives; apt policy qbittorrent
[19:46] <Pompo> https://i.imgflip.com/7sd77e.jpg @EriC^^
[19:48] <Pompo> @lotuspsychje qbittorrent:
[19:48] <Pompo>   Installed: 4.4.1-2
[19:48] <Pompo>   Candidate: 4.4.1-2
[19:48] <Pompo>   Version table:
[19:48] <Pompo>  *** 4.4.1-2 500
[19:48] <Pompo>         500 http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy/universe amd64 Packages
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> Pompo: ok good, seems like the apt version
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> Pompo: try to logout gnome, then try login back on xorg instead of wayland as a test, and see if qbittorrent shows there
[19:55] <Pompo> ok
[19:59] <pompo> nothing different
[20:00] <lotuspsychje> pompo: ok tnx for testing
[20:00] <pompo> however with the previous ubuntu lts absolutely no problems
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> pompo: close qbittorrent again, then open a: journalctl -f from your terminal and launch qbittorrent again and !paste the output to the channel please
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> !paste
[20:02] <lotuspsychje> pompo: in a https://dpaste.com please
[20:06] <pompo> https://dpaste.com/GBAHJKAY6
[20:14] <lotuspsychje> pompo: on my 22.04 i get more output launching qbittorrent, something might got wrong at your side, not sure what yet
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> pompo: maybe try to purge, and install again as a test?
[20:20] <pompo> ok, however i tried the appimage version and same result
[20:40] <xxbossxx> Bye bye. See you tomorrow
[20:48] <pompo> @lotuspsychje: still not working, i try again tomorrow. thx for the assistence
[20:49] <pompo> @lotuspsychje thx a lot
[21:02] <Madara> hi
[21:02] <sarnold> hello Madara
[22:02] <Faw> Is it possible to mount a usb disk to 2 different mountpoints with udev (im using systemd-mount)? I have an udev rule that works, mounts to /mnt/usb/_disk_, and works as long as im not logged in. As soon as I log in and unplug and plug again, the usb shows in the desktop and works (mounts to /media/_user_/disk_) and the other mountpoint does not
[22:02] <Faw> work.
[22:06] <jhutchins> Faw: I don't know why you'd mess with udev, just put both mounts in fstab as auto.
[22:06] <jhutchins> Not auto.
[22:06] <jhutchins> Faw: Maybe you want to set up automount?
[22:07] <Faw> Yes I want to plug any usb and have them show up at that location.
[22:08] <jhutchins> Faw: Ok, I'm a little slow, I see why udev.  automounts mounts when accessed, might work for you.
[22:08] <jhutchins> Faw: Mounting devices in a GUI is usually managed by the desktop or the file manager.
[22:10] <Faw> yes, i just wanted to let the desktop managet still work as it is, and have udev set another mountpoint, but it seems the desktop kills (ok maybe kidnaps) my udev mount
[22:15] <ogra> Faw, udev has nothing to do with mounting usually, this is done by udisks2 ... there are options you can set but i think the target mountpoint is hardcoded ... http://storaged.org/doc/udisks2-api/latest/mount_options.html
[22:20] <JanC> you can't mount the same filesystem twice AFAIK
[22:21] <JanC> but you could probably use a bind mount instead to have it show up in multiple places
[22:42] <topcat001> JanC: you can