[02:47] <causative> I just read https://netplan.io/faq saying that the hooks run asynchronous - they will not block transition into another state
[02:47] <causative> isn't that completely unacceptable if you want to use a hook to set up your iptables?
[02:47] <causative> the interface *must not be up* before iptables-restore runs, or your system is vulnerable. What to do?
[02:54] <causative> How can I 100% guarantee that my system won't be connected to the internet without my iptables firewall coming up first?
[03:42] <causative> alright, I'll just use iptables-persistent
[19:53] <universal_ddos> hello there, today I found netplan, but I was wondering at which point do you really need such tool? let's say i have a single proxmox machine at home, does it make sense to use it for VMs or maybe containers running on it?
[19:55] <universal_ddos> am I correct that netplan makes only sense if you automate the setup of servers/VMs?
[23:29] <universal_ddos> am out, do not bother to respond to my questions