[02:47] I just read https://netplan.io/faq saying that the hooks run asynchronous - they will not block transition into another state [02:47] isn't that completely unacceptable if you want to use a hook to set up your iptables? [02:47] the interface *must not be up* before iptables-restore runs, or your system is vulnerable. What to do? [02:54] How can I 100% guarantee that my system won't be connected to the internet without my iptables firewall coming up first? [03:42] alright, I'll just use iptables-persistent [19:53] hello there, today I found netplan, but I was wondering at which point do you really need such tool? let's say i have a single proxmox machine at home, does it make sense to use it for VMs or maybe containers running on it? [19:55] am I correct that netplan makes only sense if you automate the setup of servers/VMs? [23:29] am out, do not bother to respond to my questions