[00:06] <Crell> Hi all. RAID issue. I'm swapping out all the drives in my 3-drive RAID5 array, from HDDs to SSDs. All SATA 3.  I've swapped them over one by one fine, and the array is now all new drives. But the system won't boot unless I have one of the old drives plugged in. It's not even part of the array, and when booting that way the drive seems inactive,
[00:06] <Crell> but it won't boot without it.  I am highly confused by this. :-) Anyone know what might be going on?
[00:07] <sarnold> what's the error when none of the old drives are installed?
[00:09] <Crell> There isn't one.  It's a headless system, so I just know I can't ssh into it.
[00:11] <sarnold> ouch :(
[00:11] <sarnold> no bmc?
[00:12] <Crell> I may have a monitor somewhere I can plug into it, but was hoping it was some "obvious" mistake I'd made.
[00:18] <sarnold> I'm sorry to say I don't have anything to suggest off the top of my head :(
[00:19] <PvtJoker> Crell : my guess is grub issue
[00:20] <PvtJoker> probably easiest thing is to find that spare monitor
[00:23] <Crell> Tracked down a monitor.  Fun story: Without the other hard drive, it's automatically going into the BIOS setup screen on boot!
[00:25] <Crell> So... is it booting to the old drive, and then jumping over to the new array?  How is the old drive even working if it's just one drive out of a RAID array??
[00:27] <sarnold> the EFI filesystem isn't usually part of the raid -- that can lead to some pretty horrible things, since very few bios environments know how to work with mdraid
[00:28] <sarnold> do you have your EFI on another drive? or was it on those?
[00:28] <Crell> These were the only drives in the machine.
[00:28] <Crell> This is the first time I've touched the RAID or boot config since the machine was built using the ubuntu installer, like 8 years ago.  (It's been OS upgraded since then a few times, but haven't messed with the drives.)
[00:29] <sarnold> aha
[00:30] <Crell> So if I put the drive back in to let it boot, then rerun grub after it's booted to install EFI on the new array, would that work?
[00:30] <sarnold> then try a sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub  -- I think that'll ask you to select the EFI partition to use
[00:30] <Crell> And I should tell it md1?  (The RAIDed data partition.  md0 is swap.)
[00:32] <sarnold> no, it needs to be a drive partition, not inside the raid
[00:33] <Crell> Hm.  Interesting.  I... don't know if one exists.  That could be the cause of the issue, then.  I setup the partition tables on the new drives by cloning them from old drives, but... not a consistent old drive.
[00:33] <Crell> Though none of the old ones gave an indication of having an extra partition beyond sdX1 and sdX5.
[00:34] <sarnold> hmm, does fdisk -l .. on them show something like /dev/sda1       2048   1050623   1048576  512M EFI System
[00:35] <Crell> Hang on while I reinstall the old drive.
[00:38] <Crell> The new drives are all an 8 GB sdX1, then an sdX2 extended, and it's filled with an sdX5.  Both sdX1 and sdX5 are of type "Linux raid autodetect."
[00:39] <grace> sarnold: I have an unmet build dependency in source, according to pdebuild... which doesn't make sense, shouldn't those be installed automatically after entering the chroot?
[00:39] <sarnold> grace: yes, if they exist
[00:39] <Crell> The old drive is... the same.  But sda1 is marked as bootable.  That's not the case for the new drives.
[00:40] <Crell> (Old drive also errors that Partition 2 does not start on a physical sector boudnary.)
[00:40] <sarnold> Crell: no EFI partitions? o_O i'm very confused then :)
[00:40] <Crell> :shrug emoji:
[00:40] <Crell> The swap partition being marked bootable is the weird one for me.
[00:41] <grace> sarnold: they do, but [1] why do I have to install them outside the chroot first, so that dpkg-checkbuilddeps (started by pdebuild) passes and [2] how can I install them automatically from the dsc file?
[00:42] <sarnold> grace: good question :(
[00:43] <Crell> And dpkg-reconfigure grub errors that grub is not installed.  Good times.
[00:43] <rfm> Crell, the "bootable" flag is just to tell BIOS where to load the mbr (which is in the partition label.)  This must be legacy BIOS not EFI, else nothing makes sense (especially that extended parttion)
[00:43] <Crell> The machine is at least 8 years old, I think, so it could well be ancient hardware.
[00:43] <Eickmeyer> grace: Those packages you're missing in Ubuntu Studio were removed from Debian (and Ubuntu) long ago.
[00:43] <sarnold> Crell: maybe dpkg-reconfigure grub-efi-amd64 ?
[00:44] <rfm> I can't even remember how to install the MBR anymore.
[00:44] <Crell> Nope.
[00:44] <Eickmeyer> grace: Alternatives have been installed. You don't need them.
[00:44] <sarnold> Crell: then rfm's guess is probably on the right track :) about grub-pc?
[00:44] <Crell> I have grub-common, and grub-gfxpayload-lists, and grub-pc-bin, according to aptitude.
[00:44] <sarnold> grub-pc-bin then
[00:45] <Crell> Recofiguring that does nothing.
[00:45] <sarnold> :(
[00:46] <sarnold> sorry, it's been a decade since I used a bios machine, I'm *really* rusty there
[00:46] <Crell> There's a whole bunch of grub-* commands in the system.  grub-probe sounds maybe useful?
[00:46] <Crell> It's been a decade since I needed to care. :-)
[00:46] <sarnold> lol :)
[00:46] <Crell> I thought I saw UEFI on the screen it brought up before...
[00:48] <grace> sarnold: anyway, success !
[00:48] <sarnold> grace: yay? :)
[00:49] <rfm> Crell, if directory /sys/firmware/efi exists, it booted EFI, if not it booted legacy...
[00:49] <Crell> It does not.
[00:51] <Crell> Well, at least I know what the problem is now.  For whatever reason, grub didn't transfer over to the new drives properly.  So I need to figure out how to reapply grub to the new drives.
[00:51] <grace> sarnold: yes, thanks for the help
[00:51] <Crell> That's a later task; My wife is waiting for me. :-) Thanks for the help, folks.
[00:51] <sarnold> grace: awesome! :D
[00:53] <rfm> Crell, you might look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID which looks slightly familiar, I think I followed it last time I had a BIOS/md raid system...
[00:55] <rfm> Crell, the bit about doing grub-install to the disk (not the md device, nor a partition) definitely rings a bell
[01:05] <plt2> I do not know much about scripting but I need to search for a string in a file and if it does not exist then do a command like this iptables -I INPUT -s ip address -j DROp
[01:06] <plt2> Would call the file b IPAddress
[01:07] <rbox> plt2: grep blah file || iptablers
[01:07] <sarnold> plt2: grep -q root /etc/passwd && echo found
[01:08] <sarnold> oh, hah, does *not* exist, follow rbox's example
[01:08] <sarnold> and depending upon what you're trying to do, switch to ipsets or nftables?
[01:09] <rbox> probably trying to reinvent the wheel for fail2ban
[01:09] <rbox> lol
[01:10] <sarnold> *nod*
[01:12] <plt2> Its not yet supported with Wubuzo yet
[01:13] <plt2> Now I am going to install it
[01:13] <plt2> bbl
[01:16] <plt2> What is this
[01:16] <plt2> #before = paths-distro.conf
[01:16] <plt2> before = paths-debian.conf
[01:17] <casedup> hey heey
[01:17] <plt2> I am not sure what to put there
[01:17] <plt2> A little more information in the conf file would be helpfull
[01:20] <plt2> When you got 6 files that match this search find / -name debian.conf
[01:21] <plt2> Does anyone know which one to use?
[01:22] <plt2> https://pastebin.com/fZ9GfHx3
[01:23] <sarnold> I think you need to refine your question a bit further
[01:23] <plt2> Which one to use for this in the jail.conf before = paths-debian.conf
[01:24] <plt2> Does anyone would like to lear 6809 asm
[01:24] <plt2> just kidding
[01:24] <plt2> Which file above should I use for the before = paths-debian.conf
[01:26] <plt2> Correction: Which file in the link I provided should I use for the before = paths-debian.conf
[01:26] <plt2> https://pastebin.com/fZ9GfHx3
[01:30] <plt2> bbl
[01:52] <sarnold> plt2: I suggest taking a step back and explaining (a) what program or service you're trying to configure (b) what problem you're trying to solve
[02:15] <plt2> That was not to bad setting up fail2ban
[02:30] <plt2> Ban set to 6 months
[02:39] <Crell> rfm: Hrm.  Repartitioning such that I destroy the disk is definitely not an option. :-(
[02:42] <plt2> Crell I agree
[02:42] <plt2> It's not fun re-building a system from scratch
[02:43] <Crell> Aye.  All I wanted to do was replace a failing drive. :-(
[02:43] <plt2>  Now I need to find a vpn server to test my fail2ban
[03:01] <plt2> The damn thing is working
[03:01] <plt2> bbl
[03:13] <plt2> is fail2ban should it catch attempts like this  [87.121.47.52] F=<it@apps2.professionalsoftwaredevelopment.com> rejected RCPT <chan@yauheng.com>: Rejected relay attempt: '87.121.47.52' From: 'it@apps2.professionalsoftwaredevelopment.com' To: 'chan@yauheng.com
[03:31] <plt2> What is the past command again?
[03:44] <plt2> Can you take a look at this https://termbin.com/mer8 I am running exim4 mail server and its not catching the relay attempts
[03:45] <plt2> This is the filter file https://termbin.com/dvy71
[04:04] <plt2> It's time for bed. bbl
[04:48] <ozzloy> the firefox icon in my dock starts firefox 102, but i also have firefox 115 installed.  how do i
[04:48] <ozzloy> woops..  how do i find the binary that the dock icon is opening?
[05:49] <ozzloy> i figured it out.  it was firefox-esr vs firefox
[05:56] <dabbler> neither `videoinfo` (in GRUB) nor `sudo hwinfo --framebuffer` outputs ANY resolutions. how can I find out what resolutions GRUB will support?
[06:06] <weedmic> dabbler: I can give you the contents of my grub file - let me know the path/title of the file you want and I'll post a link.
[06:07] <dabbler> weedmic: appreciate the offer, but it's hardware-specific
[06:11] <weedmic> oic, you are looking for a list, not the format of the sytax
[06:12] <dabbler> yes, the ubiquitous instructions for how to get a list of supported resolutions don't work
[06:13] <EriC^^> dabbler: trial and error it?
[06:13] <EriC^^> what resolution are you looking to try?
[06:16] <dabbler> EriC^^: 1440x900. i'd rather not have to rescue an unbootable machine
[06:20] <alkisg> dabbler: up to a point, passing `vga=ask` in the grub cmdline made it show the resolutions, not sure if that still works e.g. in uefi etc
[06:21] <EriC^^> dabbler: you could try "videotest 1440x900" in the grub cmd line
[06:21] <EriC^^> the exit just reboot it, or maybe ctrl+alt+del
[06:22] <dabbler> EriC^^: ok, i'll try that
[06:23] <dabbler> "no suitable video mode found"
[06:30] <EriC^^> do other resolutions work? i wonder if you have to run 'insmod all_video' and 'insmod gfxterm' before running the command
[06:30] <EriC^^> just trying stuff
[06:35] <weedmic> try 1024x768 or 800x600.
[06:46] <ctcphelper> 720p
[06:50] <ozzloy> obs lets me start a virtual camera just once.  i can get obs to start again if i run this script https://termbin.com/pc3i
[06:54] <ozzloy> i have to completely exit obs, run that script, then re-open obs.  then the virtual camera will work once
[06:55] <ozzloy> how do i make it so i can turn the virtual camera on and off just by clicking the button?
[07:24] <hasibuan> test
[07:24] <hexabit> hasibuan: Works! :)
[09:59] <misu> wassu
[09:59] <misu> p
[09:59] <misu> lol
[10:00] <weedmic> Mibix: Did you have an issue requiring assistance?
[10:04] <Mathisen> anyone have experience using Ubuntu landscape ? my main question is really is the https://ubuntu.com/landscape/install guide up to date for 22.04 ?
[10:05] <Mathisen> as i am getting error when following the juju way " ERROR option provided but not defined: --unit "
[10:06] <Mathisen> on step 8
[10:24] <hans_> what is a .ddeb file?
[10:24] <hans_> its right next to a bunch of .deb files
[10:25] <hans_> lots of .deb and .ddeb files on https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/ondrej/php/ubuntu/pool/main/p/php5.6/?C=S;O=A
[10:25] <Mathisen> hans_, my guess probably typo
[10:25] <hans_> doubtful
[10:25] <hans_> 302 .deb files and 288 .ddeb files in that index. wouldn't make the same typo 288 times
[10:26] <PvtJoker> https://askubuntu.com/questions/764812/what-is-the-difference-between-deb-file-and-ddeb-file-in-linux
[10:26] <PvtJoker> debug files?
[10:27] <hans_> ohh yeah seems so, thanks!
[10:27] <PvtJoker> sure np :)
[10:29] <elliot_> nickserv aalk
[10:36] <quazimodo> do we use ibus for input on 20.04?
[11:08] <alkisg> AFAIK gnome uses it, and none of the others use it by default
[11:22] <webchat33> Hi I hope this is the correct channel to ask this. I am wanting to purchase a Dell Latitude 5440 Core i7-1265U but it says nothing about which Ubuntu versions it supports. Does anyone know if Ubuntu OS 20.04 is supported? I called Dell but they were unhelpful
[11:26] <weedmic> webchat33: as far as I know, it should support any linux.
[11:26] <webchat33> Fab thank you
[11:26] <weedmic> I am using a dell 5430 atm, just fyi
[11:27] <weedmic> before you erase the windows though, do the command to get the key - then if you later want to make a vm of windows, you can type in the valid key.
[11:27] <Mathisen> webchat33, it is a big diffrence from certified hardware and hardware that just works. thats why it is hard to find info.
[11:28] <weedmic> u might need to wait for a new hot item for a driver, but a dell laptop - I seriously doubt that.
[11:28] <webchat33> Okay thank you for your help!
[11:30] <weedmic> fyi - powershell "(Get-WmiObject -query 'select * from SoftwareLicensingService').OA3xOriginalProeuctKey"
[11:31] <weedmic> in the old days, the laptop would have a sticker form M$ with the key, but... alas tempus transierunt
[11:36] <peacefulman> That could be useful. Fortunately the last dell laptop I used (5 years old) had a freely available restore image that didn't need a Windows key
[11:37] <peacefulman> Dell sometimes has these restore images on their website freely available to everyone, just needed to plugin service tag from bios
[11:47] <zniavre>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY zniavre multipla2048
[11:49] <weedmic> u just showed us ur password - might want to change it now zniavre, do these commands in libera tab and no space before /msg
[11:50] <zniavre> weedmic,  im trying to figure how to change it
[11:50] <zniavre> :o(
[11:51] <weedmic> there is a help room, but I'll see if I can find it.  I seem to remember registering or something.
[11:52] <weedmic> #libera - it is full too
[11:52] <zniavre> thank you for telling me
[11:52] <zniavre> just changed password
[11:52] <zniavre> :o)
[11:53] <weedmic> probably happened to me decades ago
[11:54] <zniavre> i think it's my second time in 17 years of irc ...   :o)
[11:55] <weedmic> may it be the last ;)
[12:53] <plt2> Can you take a look at this https://termbin.com/mer8 I am running exim4 mail server and its not catching the relay attempts
[12:53] <plt2> This is the filter file https://termbin.com/dvy71
[12:54] <plt2> fail2ban
[16:37] <gordonjcp> is anyone using samba with Windows XP in Ubuntu?
[16:37] <gordonjcp> it looks like SMB1 support is totally broken in recent Samba
[16:38] <leftyfb> gordonjcp: you tried https://askubuntu.com/a/1349712 ?
[17:23] <gordonjcp> leftyfb: I hadn't spotted that one but I did see something similar which didn't work - but I'll try that after dinner
[17:49] <u8353v[m]> how to make "bl | grep application" work in ubuntu?
[17:50] <sarnold> install bl
[17:57] <depon> hi i have a question.i installed accidently python3.5 over the 3.11 version which came with ubuntu can i just "install" 3.11 again and all will be fine or should i reinstall my system?
[17:58] <leftyfb> depon: did you try reinstalling 3.11?
[17:58] <depon> im trying right now
[17:59] <leftyfb> I don't have a lot of confidence it's going to work
[17:59] <depon> my system is still stable but i need to run something in python3.5
[17:59] <leftyfb> u8353v[m]: "bl" doesn't seem to be a valid binary in any ubuntu packages that I can find
[18:00] <leftyfb> depon: I would suggest running Ubuntu 16.04 in a VM or container if you need python 3.5 for anything
[18:00] <gordonjcp> leftyfb: yes, that works
[18:01] <depon> ahh did ubuntu 16.04 came with python3.5?
[18:01] <leftyfb> depon: mind you, both Ubuntu 16.04 and python 3.5 are End of Life and unsupported
[18:01] <gordonjcp> leftyfb: yay! disaster averted :-)
[18:01] <leftyfb> yes
[18:01] <leftyfb> 3.5.1-3 was the latest according to rmadison
[18:01] <depon> i just want to use some source code 1 time flashing some microcontroller
[18:02] <leftyfb> gordonjcp: first result on google for "ubuntu samba windows xp"
[18:07] <tomreyn> depon: use virtualenv, venv, pyenv, pyvenv or the like.. don't install different python versions using sudo / root.
[18:08] <depon> @tomreyn yes this was def my fault
[18:08] <depon> i will reinstall the system
[18:08] <depon> thanks :) ttyl
[18:18] <gordonjcp> leftyfb: possibly in your local language, not necessarily in mine
[18:23] <gabriell> hola
[18:24] <sarnold> hi
[18:56] <Medita> help!
[18:56] <Medita> (and hello)
[18:56] <Medita> I just seriously effed up... like, seriously, seriously
[18:57] <Medita> I wanted to set the owner of /var/www/html/user/  to  "user"
[18:57] <Medita> What I WANTED to type:
[18:57] <Medita> chown -cR user:user /var/www/html/user/
[18:57] <Medita> what I ACTUALLY typed:
[18:57] <Medita> chown -cR user:user /var/
[18:58] <Medita> should I just delete the entire system and re-install ?
[18:58] <leftyfb> Medita: if you changed permissions/owners of files in / or /var recursively, then next and only step is to reinstall your OS
[18:58] <Medita> god damn it
[18:58] <Medita> are you joking with me or for real ?
[18:58] <leftyfb> I am not joking
[18:58] <Medita> pfff maaaan I was about to quit the chat and re-install
[18:58] <ravage> or you restore your backup that you do on a regular basis of course
[18:58] <Medita> I just installed the OS 30 mins ago
[18:59] <leftyfb> if it's a 30min OS, then there is no loss
[18:59] <tomreyn> lucky you, so little loss of data
[18:59] <Medita> re-install then?
[18:59] <leftyfb> yes
[18:59] <Medita> ok, bye!
[18:59] <Medita> thank you
[18:59] <Medita> see you later
[18:59] <ravage> so much noise about nothing :)
[19:06] <howudodat> I'm curious if my laptop is actually suspending when I close the lid.  Here is the pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7ivd6Su2 It says freezing user space processes, but the log entry for competed is 3 minutes later when I opened the lid.  and I'm not sure if ACPI: EC: interrupt blocked is significant or not
[19:08] <jhutchins> howudodat: You expect it to log _after_ it suspends?
[19:10] <sarnold> howudodat: you could ssh in, run 'while true ; do sleep 1 ; echo but i dont want to sleep ; done'   and then close the lid and see what happens
[19:10] <jhutchins> I suppose it would be reasonable to expect the system to log an "I'm going to sleep now" message as the process starts.
[19:11] <jhutchins> howudodat: Is anything logged beteween the last task and the wake-up message?
[19:11] <sarnold> and *glorious* is if it could log *why* -- which program requested it
[19:13] <howudodat> I do think it's reasonable the first log entry, but I would think the very last thing it would do is log "ok, I'm going to sleep" and then go to sleep.  And log "Hey there O'm waking up now" when it wakes up.  as opposed to logging froze all processes after restarting
[19:33] <jhutchins> Isn't this the kind of problem systemd was supposed to fix?
[19:40] <howudodat> ok, so it is going into standby...takes 15 seconds, but the fans do turn off.
[19:40] <howudodat> when I do sudo halt, I can watch it shutdown, but it never powers off
[19:41] <cbreak> howudodat: try shutdown -h now or poweroff
[19:41] <howudodat> brb
[19:44] <howudodat> cbreak: thanks that worked.  that will take some getting used to...old habbits
[19:45] <cbreak> halt doesn't shut down I think, it's like the "shutdown" in the old days, where you had to turn off the power switch afterwards ... I think...
[19:46] <cbreak> (the man page also mentions you can use systemd poweroff)
[19:47] <eldowan> I am trying to configure cloud-init on a VM, and everything works except network on boot. I have a 2 minute stop during boot at "Host and Network Name Lookups". After this aborts and I am able to login, I can run dhclient and receive a DHCP address immediately. This is on a clean install. How can I start to troubleshoot this?
[19:49] <sarnold> eldowan: i'm guessing you may have better luck in #ubuntu-server -- or maybe #cloud-init (I'm not sure if that's a support channel or not, but it does have 100-ish clients at the moment)
[19:50] <eldowan> sarnold: Thanks for the pointer
[20:12] <dabbler> EriC^^: after `insmod`ing those modules you suggested last night, `videotest 1440x900` (followed by an extra \n) outputs a list of 16 hex color codes. Using other common resolutions like 800x600 and 1024x768 (weedmic) results in that "no suitable video mode found" error again. So I'm guessing the color codes indicate success?
[20:16] <EriC^^> dabbler: does it show any text?
[20:17] <EriC^^> i found online this is what it should show, https://i.stack.imgur.com/kmZqh.png that's grub 2.02 though
[20:27] <dabbler> EriC^^: no, nothing graphical or colored appears. It just spits out a list:
[20:27] <dabbler> ```color 0: ff000000
[20:27] <dabbler> color 1: ffa80000
[20:27] <dabbler> …
[20:27] <dabbler> color 15: fffefefe```
[20:29] <EriC^^> dabbler: i have an idea, how about you create a grub.cfg with the gfx code you like using grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub2.cfg after temporarily editing /etc/default/grub and then revert it
[20:29] <dabbler> But now videoinfo send to work. It outputs a few "adapters", the last of which, EFI GOP driver" lists one supported resolution: 1440x900x32 🎉
[20:30] <dabbler> *seems
[20:30] <plt2> Is this issue related to where it's getting information from the developer application license server or is it a issue on my local machine because it was working before --> Eror: cURL error 59: failed setting cipher list: ALL:!EXPORT:!EXPORT40:!EXPORT56
[20:30] <EriC^^> then when you boot up in grub, use "configfile /boot/grub/grub2.cfg" to load it and see if it works right
[20:31] <dabbler> Kind of strange that it doesn't also list at least the resolution that it's currently using, the default one
[20:32] <dabbler> EriC^^: good idea!
[20:44] <dabbler> EriC^^: the `configfile …` line results in:
[20:44] <dabbler> ```error: no server is specified
[20:44] <dabbler> error: no suitable video mode found
[20:44] <dabbler> error: no video mode activated
[20:45] <dabbler> Let's see what happens if I load those modules first
[20:49] <EriC^^> aha
[20:53] <dabbler> After `insmode all_video`, loading the configfile succeeds. I'm looking at my grub menu in 1440x900, but there seems to be a character set issue. The box around the menu consists of little question-mark-in-box characters instead of the usual line drawing. Same for the up and down arrow characters in the "Use the [up] and [down] keys to select…" instruction below the menu
[21:09] <EriC^^> dabbler: maybe 'font=unicode' ?
[21:09] <EriC^^> or 'insmod gfxterm'
[21:14] <dabbler> No change :/
[21:21] <EriC^^> dabbler: what's your grub2.cfg look like? i find it odd it doesnt load all_video by itself
[21:27] <dabbler> EriC^^: https://pastebin.com/JttMdMYG
[21:29] <EriC^^> looks good to me
[22:05] <dabbler> the only difference from my grub.cfg is the gfxmode=1440x900 instead of gfxmode=auto on line 93
[22:07] <dabbler> I wonder whether I'll see the same character issue if I set the default resolution (800x600, I think) instead of using 'auto'. I'm guessing the auto is taking care of something other than the resolution
[22:15] <dabbler> Correction: 640x480
[22:19] <dabbler> EriC^^: interesting. I just discovered that even with my default grub config, in which it's gfxmode=auto, when it loads the menu initially, it's 640x480, but if I switch to command line, enter `insmod all_video`, then `normal`, when it switches back it's 1440x900 with the screwed up characters
[22:30] <plt2> In the fail2ban channel they not being to helpfull. I was told that exim4 is not enabled in the jail.conf. How can I enable exim4 so it will catch the mail relay attempts please?
[22:34] <sarnold> this looks promising https://superuser.com/a/1757120
[22:42] <BeFreeIL> Running 22.04. All was fine, then after shutting down and starting up a few days later, certain apps fail to start. e.g., Ubuntu Software & Libre Office 7.5. Then installed Libre 7.5 again through Flathub, but it too would not start. When attempting to start these apps, they appear to be trying to start up according to a notation of the app with a rotating icon to the right of "Activities" in the upper left of the screen. (Note: 
[22:42] <BeFreeIL> my very first attempt to chat through IRC. So, you may have to bear with my ignorance.)
[22:42] <ozzloy> you're messages are getting through, BeFreeIL
[22:43] <dTal> *twitch*
[22:43] <BeFreeIL> Thanks, ozzloy.
[22:43] <plt2> Is anyone here using fail2ban?
[22:45] <PvtJoker> plt2 i use it
[22:46] <PvtJoker> plt2 my biggest gotcha with fail2ban was the initial config - make sure you change auto to systemd
[22:48] <plt2> The fail2 ban services is starting ok so why do I need to change the systemd file?
[22:48] <PvtJoker> jail.local file plt2
[22:48] <PvtJoker> i had to change mine on another system
[22:48] <PvtJoker> if yours is starting great :)
[22:49] <plt2> The jail.local file does not exist
[22:49] <PvtJoker> you copy jail.conf to jail.local and add your customizations there
[22:50] <plt2> Why am I copying the same file for?
[22:51] <PvtJoker> plt2 read the top of jail.conf
[22:51] <PvtJoker> it explains it
[22:51] <plt2> I did not does not explain how to enable exim4
[22:52] <PvtJoker> that i can't help with friend
[22:52] <PvtJoker> hint : read the jail.conf file
[22:53] <plt2> Some better docs would be good like if your running fail2ban on Ubuntu step 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
[22:54] <plt2> Some new linux applications will be released soon with much better docs included
[22:54] <PvtJoker> plt2 ok look : do this
[22:54] <PvtJoker> sudo cp jail.conf jail.local
[22:54] <PvtJoker> edit jail.local and read the file please
[22:54] <PvtJoker> exim is in the config file
[22:56] <PvtJoker> under your exim, set it up how you want it and add a line enabled = true
[22:56] <plt2> Why can the editing of the same file jail.conf and jail.local are the sane file just edit one file jail.conf?
[22:56] <plt2> bbl
[22:58] <PvtJoker> plt2 you have reading to do friend :)
[23:00] <PvtJoker> it is because updates may overwrite your changes in jail.conf
[23:00] <PvtJoker> so do your edits then sudo systemctl enable fail2ban && sudo systemctl start fail2ban
[23:00] <PvtJoker> good luck!
[23:00] <sarnold> BeFreeIL: can you get to a terminal? check journalctl output -- hopefully you'll be able to spot things that look wrong
[23:26] <plt2> The correct anser is https://systemadminspro.com/fail2ban-and-exim-on-ubuntu/
[23:29] <plt2> Can you please add that link to your Q&A bot
[23:36] <lolok> how to update snap store? error snap-store has running snaps: ubuntu-software
[23:37] <sarnold> close the app, run "sudo snap refresh"
[23:38] <lolok> cheers
[23:48] <toddc> sarnold: I had to kill the pid for snap store in order to refresh. I assumed it ran all the time? killall snap-store?
[23:49] <lolok> i also had to kill; is this normal? that it cant update itself?
[23:52] <badbodh> whoa whoa whoa, what's with all this killing?
[23:52] <toddc> lolok: it will auto kill and update in 13 days I just hate to keep seeing that warning
[23:52] <badbodh> good ol snapd
[23:53] <lolok> indeed kill it
[23:56] <badbodh> like dude, just update yourself and shut up. i'm not using the app now
[23:56] <badbodh> i don't like killing things per se, but have you tried just doing a snap refresh?
[23:56] <sarnold> toddc: heh, I thought closing it would be enough -- but with the caveat that the daemon will wait who knows how long before it tries again :/
[23:58] <toddc> ps aux | grep snap to see running snaps
[23:59] <toddc> nope I had one