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youngbinGood evening!11:49
mschoGood evening! and Good afternoon!(in UTC)11:55
Bashing-omMorning for those of us in the West - moar coffee :D11:57
Kiloshi guys from south africa11:57
Kilosalways more coffee11:57
Bashing-ommscho: hothead-jung: ,, Give us a bit longer to get things together :)12:04
mschoSure :)12:04
hothead-jungOkay :)12:04
maprerihello hello!12:09
mapreriWe are only 3 at this time, and I'm not aware of any proxy vote, so at this time we don't have a quorum.12:14
mapreriWe could wait some more and see if anybody appears.  Otherwise we could either postpone this meeting, or do the vote via email only, whichever you prefer.12:15
mapreri(I love IRC, but that's just me :P)12:15
Kilosthats where I started my linux career12:16
mschoIf could, next UTC+12:00 meeting, I prefer12:16
hothead-jungSince I have an appointment right after this, so if you're okay, can we choose latter?12:16
youngbinPerhaps email voting for hothead-jung?12:17
Kilosyoungbin  are you here to support them?12:17
hothead-jungboth are OK for me12:17
youngbinYup :)12:17
mapreriyoungbin: are you one of those that left an endorsement on their wiki page?12:18
mapreri"ybhan, I guess ^^12:19
youngbinmapereri: Yes, I left some testimonials for them :)12:19
hothead-jungyes :)12:19
mschomapereri: yes, correct12:19
maprerithank you for also attending the meeting, these days it's relatively rare for people to support applications on IRC as well.  I remember the times where supporters would spam the channel lol12:20
mapreriso well, email or IRC on 16th August?12:21
mschoBoth okay.12:21
mschoI think I can attend in IRC on 16th August.12:22
maprerialright, let's reschedule them that way, hothead-jung via email (will notify via mail later the start of voting) and mscho next month.12:22
mapreriOOI; seeing you are both from South Korea, do you know each other in RL? :)12:24
Bashing-ommapreri: +1 from me on re-schedules.12:24
youngbinmapreri: We're all from Korean LoCo :)12:24
mapreriand do you also physically meet over there? ^^12:24
hothead-jungYes, by Ubuntu Korean LoCo team. I've been there since 2015.12:24
hothead-jungfor online forum activity, since 2010 I guess..12:24
hothead-jungwe had periodical meeting before the pandemic :)12:25
maprerithose are nice ^^12:25
mschomapreri: Yes, I first met hothead-jung in RL this year :)12:25
hothead-jungoh, he's right, I met him first in this year12:25
hothead-jungdue to the long pandemic :(12:26
hothead-jungso how will the interview work via an email?12:26
hothead-jungor just vote via email after realtime interview?12:27
mapreripretty much, yes.  we just copy over the IRC "template" in an email, or such.12:27
mapreriit does take longer but well12:27
mschomapreri: It seems like a rolling-papers12:28
maprerimscho: it pretty much is 🤭12:28
hothead-jungso I will receive email soon w/ templates?12:29
hothead-jungsince your response was very quick after second chat I can't get the context12:30
mapreriI'm writing it right now ^^12:30
hothead-jungokay I guess12:30
hothead-jungthank you :)12:31
KilosSorry guys12:31
maprerimhhh, I wonder if my email with from: @ubuntu.com will reach your @gmail.com address...12:32
* Kilos hangs his head in shame12:32
hothead-jungNo problem,12:32
hothead-jungit will reach with no problem12:32
hothead-jungI will check spam inbox as well12:32
mapreriwell, recently (past ~3 years) gmail just straight discards some of my mails when I use @ubuntu.com :(12:33
mapreriforget spam…12:33
Bashing-ommapreri: Google can recieve - no can send from our ubuntu accounts :(12:34
KilosI tried doing tghe alias thing in gmail but got nowhere12:35
youngbinIn my case, Sending from ubuntu.com on gmail alias seems to be working...12:37
mapreriyeah, gmail rejected the mail12:37
Kilosyoungbin  can you email and explain in detail how you got it to work12:38
mapreri(fyi: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/8b5fbc49/)12:38
Kilosenglish, I am old and stupid12:38
mapreriyoungbin: right, but I don't want to use gmail's own smtp for this12:38
mapreriI'm trying ever so hard to detach myself from google (and failing), sooooo :S12:39
Kiloshere is fenris12:39
Kiloshi fenris[m]112:40
KilosBashing-om  we can go quick12:40
fenris[m]1sorry .. just arrived home ..12:40
* fenris[m]1 reviewing the candidates12:40
mapreriuh, I just sent the email for hothead-jung vote12:41
mapreriKilos, Bashing-om: should we try and start the meeting now that fenris[m]1 arrived?12:41
Kilosmapreri  we  can start I think12:42
maprerilet's be quick, also because hothead-jung mentioned he needs to go right at end12:43
mapreriI'll chair?12:43
Kilosgo mapreri12:43
mapreri#startmeeting Ubuntu Membership Board12:43
meetingologyMeeting started at 12:43:39 UTC.  The chair is mapreri.  Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology12:43
meetingologyAvailable commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick12:43
mapreri#voters Kilos Bashing-om fenris[m]1 mapreri12:43
meetingologyCurrent voters: Bashing-om, Kilos, fenris[m]1, mapreri12:43
mapreriHello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board meeting for 2023-07-19.  The wiki page for the Review Boards is available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards12:44
mapreriWe will attempt to get through all the applicants that have added themselves to that list, or posted a thread to the Ubuntu Discourse, before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the complete list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off.12:44
mapreriThe format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).12:44
mapreriEach applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page or Ubuntu Discourse thread. After the introduction, the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.12:44
mapreriDuring this time, it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.12:44
mapreriWhen the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If most of the voting board members vote +1, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (Feel free congratulate them!)12:44
mapreriNow, with any further ado, let's get started with the first applicant...12:44
maprerimscho: since hothead-jung mentioned he needs to go, do you mind if we go first with him?12:44
mapreri(despite what I just wrote…)12:44
mschomapreri: of course12:44
mapreri# topic Hoehyeong Jung12:45
mapreri#topic Hoehyeong Jung12:45
maprerihothead-jung: could you please introduce yourself?12:45
youngbinOh my... hothead-jung just told me he's on video call with his work collegue...12:46
maprerilet's go with mscho then, and circle back if he is available.  apologizes for us being late :(12:46
fenris[m]1shall we go with another candidate 1st ? then go back to jung?12:47
mapreri#topic Minseong Cho12:47
mschoSo, is it okay to introduce myself?12:48
mapreriyes please12:48
mapreri(I'm reading your wiki page a bit better than what I did yesterday…)12:48
mschoHi, my name is Minseong Cho.12:48
mschoI first met Ubuntu(Bionic) in 2019, transit from Zorin OS, and joined Korean LoCo last year.12:49
mschoCause of organizing UbuCon Asia 2022.12:49
mschoBefore 2022, I never knew Ubuntu LoCo in Korea.12:49
mschoBut after that, It has been fun to meet koreans who use ubuntu (or other linux dists.) and talk about favorite.12:50
mapreriI have one question for you: you current contributions seems to pretty much be be limited to event organization and general admin work within the LoCo.  Do you foresee yourself expanding your contributions.12:50
mapreriAlso, I'm curious, those workshop you organized, did you (the LoCo) manage to attract external contributors? :D12:52
mschoOh, I worked as DevOps engineer and finding next job. My contribution will be expanded with application usage in Korean posting12:52
mschoWhat you said, external contributors? are new comer of Korean LoCo?12:53
mapreri(BTW, I heard incredibly great things about UbuCon Asia 2022, so the fact that you helped making that one possible is amazing!)12:55
fenrisi second to that :)12:55
mschoYes, In Daegu(City), I talked with who interested in. so he will be presenter of Ubucon Korea this year!12:55
mscho(Oh, He is candidate presenter :) )12:56
mschoand.. Who I met in UbuCon Asia last year, Two of new organizors came to our LoCo this year.12:57
fenrisgood to hear that @mscho12:58
mscho(BTW, I'm not graphic designer, but I worked graphic things over night)12:58
mscho(all for success of UbuCon Asia 2022)12:58
youngbinmscho: You used Gimp, inkscape to design things right?12:58
mschoYes.... Gimp is familiar cause I used in military...12:59
mapreriAlright, I think we are ready to vote here ^^12:59
mschoBut Inkscape was first use12:59
mapreri#vote Membership for Minseong Cho12:59
meetingologyPlease vote on: Membership for Minseong Cho12:59
fenris@mscho : r u still the organizer for next coming ubucon kr?12:59
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, -1 or +0 in channel (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1|-1|+0 #channelname')12:59
mschofenris: if you said UbuCon Korea 2023, yes13:00
mschonext year, I could handle it, I think13:00
meetingology+1 received from Kilos13:00
Bashing-om+1 Time in and continued contributions13:00
meetingology+1 Time in and continued contributions received from Bashing-om13:00
fenris+1 hope to see more and continuos contributions in the future13:02
fenris[m]1+1 hope to see more and continuos contributions in the future13:02
meetingology+1 hope to see more and continuos contributions in the future received from fenris[m]113:02
mapreri+1 - honestly I'm a bit conflicted.  Your profile is clearly strong, but I feel like your contributions are not spread enough (it really feels like *only* admin work).  Clearly not a requirement, but I'd prefer to see more varied stuff.  Especially when combined with the short time since you got involved, I find myself wondering if you'll really stick to your involvement.  But still, the process doesn't let me vote +0.5, so +1 it is :P13:02
meetingology+1 - honestly I'm a bit conflicted.  Your profile is clearly strong, but I feel like your contributions are not spread enough (it really feels like *only* admin work).  Clearly not a requirement, but I'd prefer to see more varied stuff.  Especially when combined with the short time since you got involved, I find myself wondering if you'll really stick to your involvement.  But still, the process doesn't let me vote +0.5, so +1 it is13:02
mschoWow thanks XD13:03
maprerimeetingology: endovote13:03
maprerimscho: the bot doesn't want you13:04
mschomapreri: Ubuntu LoCo is my home13:04
Kilosendvote isnt it13:04
meetingologyVoting ended on: Membership for Minseong Cho13:04
fenris[m]1typo on endvote13:04
meetingologyVotes for: 4, Votes against: 0, Abstentions: 013:04
meetingologyMotion carried13:04
mapreriI didn't see the typo sorry :P13:04
maprerimscho: congratulation!13:04
Kilosnp. congrats mscho13:04
mschoThanks everyone!13:04
fenris[m]1congrats! mscho13:05
mschoI want to show my passion with Ubuntu in continue13:05
Bashing-omcongrats too mscho - well done :D13:05
maprerinow, do you think hothead-jung is available, or too late?13:05
mapreriyoungbin: ↑13:05
Kiloshothead-jung  you still here?13:06
fenris[m]1mscho: thumbs up!13:06
maprerimscho: totally.  That's a great starting point.  And the membership is not a goal, but just a bit of recognition and a tool to make your contributions better and better! :)13:06
mschoHe seems in meeting now and not ended. He is still here but cannot chat...13:06
mapreriGuess we will follow via email then13:06
mschomapreri: thanks for advice13:07
mapreri# topic Final words13:07
mapreriCongratulations to all the new members. Don't forget to check the perks at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership#The_Perks and once you've been added to the members group remember to apply for your certificate at https://forms.canonical.com/certificate/ (1/2)13:07
mapreriYour @ubuntu.com email address will go live within 48 hours. Do NOT set it as your primary launchpad.net email address because that will cause emails to loop forever and you'll never receive them! (2/2)13:07
youngbinSorry, Seems like hothead-jung is still on work meeting. He wants email vote instead :(13:07
maprerimscho: I already added you to the launchpad team.13:07
mschofenris: XD13:07
mschomapreri: thanks very much13:08
mapreriCan somebody else from the board take the task of sending the post-meeting mail?  (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards/HelpfulDocumentation/PostMeetingEmail)13:08
youngbinA bit late, but Congrats mscho :) Agreed with mapreri. Would be nice if mscho can also contribute on other area also, such as l10n :)13:08
fenris[m]1debug and report bugs :)13:09
mapreriyoungbin: another possibility (that is where I started actually, but came to hate it over time) is also user support :)13:09
mschoyoungbin: thanks for applause13:09
youngbinHe's already doing some user support on discourse.ubuntu-kr.org i belive. is it? @mscho13:09
mapreriwell, he is already approved, so it doesn't matter anymore :P13:09
mschoyoungbin: yes in Korean LoCo's discourse13:09
mschomapreri: XD13:10
youngbinHaha congrats once again :)13:10
mapreriwell, for you future friends, if you do user support in a relevant volume, that's definitely something to mention amongst your contributions :)13:10
fenris[m]1user support is good too .. helps the new comers13:10
mapreriwell, let's wrap up here.13:11
meetingologyMeeting ended at 13:11:30 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-07-19-12.43.moin.txt13:11
maprerithank you for everybody attending!  And apologizes hothead-jung that we couldn't handle your application too.13:11
mschoUbuntu mainly users are rare in Korea. XD but I'll try.13:12
fenristhanks everybody !13:12
mschomapreri: thanks everybody for attending today!13:12
youngbinThanks all! Oh, If possible. is it still possible to process hothead-jung application with email vote?13:13
mapreriyoungbin: we will (I also already sent the email before fenrir joined here)13:13
youngbinThank you @mapreri :) I'll inform him about that13:13
maprerione reason I don't particularly like the email vote is that it happens in a private ML (CCed to the applicant), so it's less transparent… :|13:13
maprerihe should have received the mail (from my @mapreri.org address, gmail bounced back my mail from @ubuntu.com)13:14
mapreriI'm going afk.  everybody take care! o/13:15
Kilosty mapreri13:15
Bashing-omty mapreri13:16
mschomapreri: Good Bye!13:16
mschoty mapreri kilos bashing-om fenris and youngbin, have a good day!13:18
Kilosty mscho    you too13:19
fenrisu r most welcome , congrats again! take care13:19
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