[11:49] <youngbin> Good evening!
[11:53] <hothead-jung> Hello!
[11:55] <mscho> Good evening! and Good afternoon!(in UTC)
[11:57] <Bashing-om> Morning for those of us in the West - moar coffee :D
[11:57] <Kilos> hi guys from south africa
[11:57] <mscho> :D
[11:57] <Kilos> always more coffee
[12:04] <Bashing-om> mscho: hothead-jung: ,, Give us a bit longer to get things together :)
[12:04] <mscho> Sure :)
[12:04] <hothead-jung> Okay :)
[12:09] <mapreri> hello hello!
[12:09] <hothead-jung> Hello!
[12:09] <mscho> Hi!
[12:10] <hothead-jung> Hello!
[12:14] <mapreri> We are only 3 at this time, and I'm not aware of any proxy vote, so at this time we don't have a quorum.
[12:15] <mapreri> We could wait some more and see if anybody appears.  Otherwise we could either postpone this meeting, or do the vote via email only, whichever you prefer.
[12:15] <mapreri> (I love IRC, but that's just me :P)
[12:16] <Kilos> thats where I started my linux career
[12:16] <mscho> If could, next UTC+12:00 meeting, I prefer
[12:16] <hothead-jung> Since I have an appointment right after this, so if you're okay, can we choose latter?
[12:17] <youngbin> Perhaps email voting for hothead-jung?
[12:17] <Kilos> youngbin  are you here to support them?
[12:17] <hothead-jung> both are OK for me
[12:17] <youngbin> Yup :)
[12:18] <mapreri> youngbin: are you one of those that left an endorsement on their wiki page?
[12:19] <mapreri> "ybhan, I guess ^^
[12:19] <youngbin> mapereri: Yes, I left some testimonials for them :)
[12:19] <hothead-jung> yes :)
[12:19] <mscho> mapereri: yes, correct
[12:20] <mapreri> thank you for also attending the meeting, these days it's relatively rare for people to support applications on IRC as well.  I remember the times where supporters would spam the channel lol
[12:20] <youngbin> Haha
[12:20] <hothead-jung> lol
[12:21] <mapreri> so well, email or IRC on 16th August?
[12:21] <mscho> Both okay.
[12:21] <hothead-jung> email
[12:22] <mscho> I think I can attend in IRC on 16th August.
[12:22] <mapreri> alright, let's reschedule them that way, hothead-jung via email (will notify via mail later the start of voting) and mscho next month.
[12:22] <hothead-jung> Okay
[12:23] <mscho> Okay
[12:24] <mapreri> OOI; seeing you are both from South Korea, do you know each other in RL? :)
[12:24] <Bashing-om> mapreri: +1 from me on re-schedules.
[12:24] <youngbin> mapreri: We're all from Korean LoCo :)
[12:24] <mapreri> and do you also physically meet over there? ^^
[12:24] <hothead-jung> Yes, by Ubuntu Korean LoCo team. I've been there since 2015.
[12:24] <hothead-jung> for online forum activity, since 2010 I guess..
[12:25] <hothead-jung> we had periodical meeting before the pandemic :)
[12:25] <mapreri> those are nice ^^
[12:25] <mscho> mapreri: Yes, I first met hothead-jung in RL this year :)
[12:25] <hothead-jung> oh, he's right, I met him first in this year
[12:26] <hothead-jung> due to the long pandemic :(
[12:26] <hothead-jung> so how will the interview work via an email?
[12:27] <hothead-jung> or just vote via email after realtime interview?
[12:27] <mapreri> pretty much, yes.  we just copy over the IRC "template" in an email, or such.
[12:27] <mapreri> it does take longer but well
[12:28] <mscho> mapreri: It seems like a rolling-papers
[12:28] <mapreri> mscho: it pretty much is 🤭
[12:29] <hothead-jung> so I will receive email soon w/ templates?
[12:30] <mapreri> yep
[12:30] <hothead-jung> since your response was very quick after second chat I can't get the context
[12:30] <mapreri> I'm writing it right now ^^
[12:30] <hothead-jung> okay I guess
[12:31] <hothead-jung> thank you :)
[12:31] <Kilos> Sorry guys
[12:32] <mscho> nevermind
[12:32] <mapreri> mhhh, I wonder if my email with from: @ubuntu.com will reach your @gmail.com address...
[12:32]  * Kilos hangs his head in shame
[12:32] <hothead-jung> No problem,
[12:32] <hothead-jung> it will reach with no problem
[12:32] <hothead-jung> I will check spam inbox as well
[12:33] <mapreri> well, recently (past ~3 years) gmail just straight discards some of my mails when I use @ubuntu.com :(
[12:33] <mapreri> forget spam…
[12:34] <Bashing-om> mapreri: Google can recieve - no can send from our ubuntu accounts :(
[12:35] <Kilos> I tried doing tghe alias thing in gmail but got nowhere
[12:36] <youngbin> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/2hOJhpqF/image.png
[12:37] <youngbin> In my case, Sending from ubuntu.com on gmail alias seems to be working...
[12:37] <mapreri> yeah, gmail rejected the mail
[12:38] <Kilos> youngbin  can you email and explain in detail how you got it to work
[12:38] <mapreri> (fyi: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/8b5fbc49/)
[12:38] <Kilos> english, I am old and stupid
[12:38] <mapreri> youngbin: right, but I don't want to use gmail's own smtp for this
[12:39] <mapreri> I'm trying ever so hard to detach myself from google (and failing), sooooo :S
[12:39] <Kilos> here is fenris
[12:40] <fenris[m]1> o/
[12:40] <Kilos> hi fenris[m]1
[12:40] <Kilos> Bashing-om  we can go quick
[12:40] <fenris[m]1> sorry .. just arrived home ..
[12:40]  * fenris[m]1 reviewing the candidates
[12:41] <mapreri> uh, I just sent the email for hothead-jung vote
[12:41] <mapreri> Kilos, Bashing-om: should we try and start the meeting now that fenris[m]1 arrived?
[12:42] <Kilos> mapreri  we  can start I think
[12:42] <mscho> Wow
[12:42] <mapreri> alright
[12:43] <mapreri> let's be quick, also because hothead-jung mentioned he needs to go right at end
[12:43] <mapreri> I'll chair?
[12:43] <Kilos> go mapreri
[12:43] <mapreri> #startmeeting Ubuntu Membership Board
[12:43] <meetingology> Meeting started at 12:43:39 UTC.  The chair is mapreri.  Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology
[12:43] <meetingology> Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick
[12:43] <mapreri> #voters Kilos Bashing-om fenris[m]1 mapreri
[12:43] <meetingology> Current voters: Bashing-om, Kilos, fenris[m]1, mapreri
[12:44] <mapreri> Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board meeting for 2023-07-19.  The wiki page for the Review Boards is available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards
[12:44] <mapreri> We will attempt to get through all the applicants that have added themselves to that list, or posted a thread to the Ubuntu Discourse, before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the complete list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off.
[12:44] <mapreri> The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).
[12:44] <mapreri> Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page or Ubuntu Discourse thread. After the introduction, the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.
[12:44] <mapreri> During this time, it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.
[12:44] <mapreri> When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If most of the voting board members vote +1, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (Feel free congratulate them!)
[12:44] <mapreri> Now, with any further ado, let's get started with the first applicant...
[12:44] <mapreri> mscho: since hothead-jung mentioned he needs to go, do you mind if we go first with him?
[12:44] <mapreri> (despite what I just wrote…)
[12:44] <Kilos> go
[12:44] <mscho> mapreri: of course
[12:45] <mapreri> # topic Hoehyeong Jung
[12:45] <mapreri> #topic Hoehyeong Jung
[12:45] <mapreri> hothead-jung: could you please introduce yourself?
[12:46] <youngbin> Oh my... hothead-jung just told me he's on video call with his work collegue...
[12:46] <mapreri> uh
[12:46] <mapreri> let's go with mscho then, and circle back if he is available.  apologizes for us being late :(
[12:47] <fenris[m]1> shall we go with another candidate 1st ? then go back to jung?
[12:47] <mscho> Okay
[12:47] <mapreri> #topic Minseong Cho
[12:48] <mscho> So, is it okay to introduce myself?
[12:48] <mapreri> yes please
[12:48] <mapreri> (I'm reading your wiki page a bit better than what I did yesterday…)
[12:48] <mscho> Hi, my name is Minseong Cho.
[12:49] <mscho> I first met Ubuntu(Bionic) in 2019, transit from Zorin OS, and joined Korean LoCo last year.
[12:49] <mscho> Cause of organizing UbuCon Asia 2022.
[12:49] <mscho> Before 2022, I never knew Ubuntu LoCo in Korea.
[12:50] <mscho> But after that, It has been fun to meet koreans who use ubuntu (or other linux dists.) and talk about favorite.
[12:50] <mapreri> I have one question for you: you current contributions seems to pretty much be be limited to event organization and general admin work within the LoCo.  Do you foresee yourself expanding your contributions.
[12:50] <mapreri> ?
[12:52] <mapreri> Also, I'm curious, those workshop you organized, did you (the LoCo) manage to attract external contributors? :D
[12:52] <mscho> Oh, I worked as DevOps engineer and finding next job. My contribution will be expanded with application usage in Korean posting
[12:52] <mscho> and...
[12:53] <mscho> What you said, external contributors? are new comer of Korean LoCo?
[12:54] <mapreri> yes
[12:55] <mapreri> (BTW, I heard incredibly great things about UbuCon Asia 2022, so the fact that you helped making that one possible is amazing!)
[12:55] <fenris> i second to that :)
[12:55] <mscho> Yes, In Daegu(City), I talked with who interested in. so he will be presenter of Ubucon Korea this year!
[12:56] <mscho> (Oh, He is candidate presenter :) )
[12:57] <mscho> and.. Who I met in UbuCon Asia last year, Two of new organizors came to our LoCo this year.
[12:58] <fenris> good to hear that @mscho
[12:58] <mscho> (BTW, I'm not graphic designer, but I worked graphic things over night)
[12:58] <mscho> (all for success of UbuCon Asia 2022)
[12:58] <youngbin> mscho: You used Gimp, inkscape to design things right?
[12:59] <mscho> Yes.... Gimp is familiar cause I used in military...
[12:59] <mapreri> Alright, I think we are ready to vote here ^^
[12:59] <mscho> But Inkscape was first use
[12:59] <mapreri> #vote Membership for Minseong Cho
[12:59] <meetingology> Please vote on: Membership for Minseong Cho
[12:59] <fenris> @mscho : r u still the organizer for next coming ubucon kr?
[12:59] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, -1 or +0 in channel (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1|-1|+0 #channelname')
[13:00] <mscho> fenris: if you said UbuCon Korea 2023, yes
[13:00] <mscho> next year, I could handle it, I think
[13:00] <Kilos> +1
[13:00] <meetingology> +1 received from Kilos
[13:00] <Bashing-om> +1 Time in and continued contributions
[13:00] <meetingology> +1 Time in and continued contributions received from Bashing-om
[13:02] <fenris> +1 hope to see more and continuos contributions in the future
[13:02] <fenris[m]1> +1 hope to see more and continuos contributions in the future
[13:02] <meetingology> +1 hope to see more and continuos contributions in the future received from fenris[m]1
[13:02] <mapreri> +1 - honestly I'm a bit conflicted.  Your profile is clearly strong, but I feel like your contributions are not spread enough (it really feels like *only* admin work).  Clearly not a requirement, but I'd prefer to see more varied stuff.  Especially when combined with the short time since you got involved, I find myself wondering if you'll really stick to your involvement.  But still, the process doesn't let me vote +0.5, so +1 it is :P
[13:02] <meetingology> +1 - honestly I'm a bit conflicted.  Your profile is clearly strong, but I feel like your contributions are not spread enough (it really feels like *only* admin work).  Clearly not a requirement, but I'd prefer to see more varied stuff.  Especially when combined with the short time since you got involved, I find myself wondering if you'll really stick to your involvement.  But still, the process doesn't let me vote +0.5, so +1 it is
[13:03] <mapreri> #endovote
[13:03] <mapreri> mhh
[13:03] <mscho> Wow thanks XD
[13:03] <mapreri> meetingology: endovote
[13:03] <mapreri> …
[13:04] <mapreri> mscho: the bot doesn't want you
[13:04] <mscho> mapreri: Ubuntu LoCo is my home
[13:04] <Kilos> endvote isnt it
[13:04] <mapreri> #endvote
[13:04] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Membership for Minseong Cho
[13:04] <fenris[m]1> typo on endvote
[13:04] <meetingology> Votes for: 4, Votes against: 0, Abstentions: 0
[13:04] <meetingology> Motion carried
[13:04] <mapreri> I didn't see the typo sorry :P
[13:04] <mapreri> mscho: congratulation!
[13:04] <Kilos> np. congrats mscho
[13:04] <mscho> Thanks everyone!
[13:05] <fenris[m]1> congrats! mscho
[13:05] <mscho> I want to show my passion with Ubuntu in continue
[13:05] <Bashing-om> congrats too mscho - well done :D
[13:05] <mapreri> now, do you think hothead-jung is available, or too late?
[13:05] <mapreri> youngbin: ↑
[13:06] <Kilos> hothead-jung  you still here?
[13:06] <fenris[m]1> mscho: thumbs up!
[13:06] <mapreri> mscho: totally.  That's a great starting point.  And the membership is not a goal, but just a bit of recognition and a tool to make your contributions better and better! :)
[13:06] <mscho> He seems in meeting now and not ended. He is still here but cannot chat...
[13:06] <mapreri> Guess we will follow via email then
[13:07] <mscho> mapreri: thanks for advice
[13:07] <mapreri> # topic Final words
[13:07] <mapreri> Congratulations to all the new members. Don't forget to check the perks at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership#The_Perks and once you've been added to the members group remember to apply for your certificate at https://forms.canonical.com/certificate/ (1/2)
[13:07] <mapreri> Your @ubuntu.com email address will go live within 48 hours. Do NOT set it as your primary launchpad.net email address because that will cause emails to loop forever and you'll never receive them! (2/2)
[13:07] <youngbin> Sorry, Seems like hothead-jung is still on work meeting. He wants email vote instead :(
[13:07] <mapreri> mscho: I already added you to the launchpad team.
[13:07] <mscho> fenris: XD
[13:08] <mscho> mapreri: thanks very much
[13:08] <mapreri> Can somebody else from the board take the task of sending the post-meeting mail?  (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards/HelpfulDocumentation/PostMeetingEmail)
[13:08] <youngbin> A bit late, but Congrats mscho :) Agreed with mapreri. Would be nice if mscho can also contribute on other area also, such as l10n :)
[13:09] <fenris[m]1> debug and report bugs :)
[13:09] <mapreri> youngbin: another possibility (that is where I started actually, but came to hate it over time) is also user support :)
[13:09] <mscho> youngbin: thanks for applause
[13:09] <youngbin> He's already doing some user support on discourse.ubuntu-kr.org i belive. is it? @mscho
[13:09] <mapreri> well, he is already approved, so it doesn't matter anymore :P
[13:09] <mscho> youngbin: yes in Korean LoCo's discourse
[13:10] <mscho> mapreri: XD
[13:10] <youngbin> Haha congrats once again :)
[13:10] <mapreri> well, for you future friends, if you do user support in a relevant volume, that's definitely something to mention amongst your contributions :)
[13:10] <fenris[m]1> user support is good too .. helps the new comers
[13:11] <mapreri> well, let's wrap up here.
[13:11] <mapreri> #endmeeting
[13:11] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 13:11:30 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-07-19-12.43.moin.txt
[13:11] <mapreri> thank you for everybody attending!  And apologizes hothead-jung that we couldn't handle your application too.
[13:12] <mscho> Ubuntu mainly users are rare in Korea. XD but I'll try.
[13:12] <fenris> thanks everybody !
[13:12] <mscho> mapreri: thanks everybody for attending today!
[13:13] <youngbin> Thanks all! Oh, If possible. is it still possible to process hothead-jung application with email vote?
[13:13] <mapreri> youngbin: we will (I also already sent the email before fenrir joined here)
[13:13] <youngbin> Thank you @mapreri :) I'll inform him about that
[13:13] <mapreri> one reason I don't particularly like the email vote is that it happens in a private ML (CCed to the applicant), so it's less transparent… :|
[13:14] <mapreri> he should have received the mail (from my @mapreri.org address, gmail bounced back my mail from @ubuntu.com)
[13:15] <mapreri> I'm going afk.  everybody take care! o/
[13:15] <Kilos> ty mapreri
[13:16] <Bashing-om> ty mapreri
[13:16] <mscho> mapreri: Good Bye!
[13:18] <mscho> ty mapreri kilos bashing-om fenris and youngbin, have a good day!
[13:19] <Kilos> ty mscho    you too
[13:19] <fenris> u r most welcome , congrats again! take care