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[21:10] <bahamat> OK, so I know the ubuntu auto installer isn't preseed. But is there a way to prepopulate debconf options?
[21:12] <bahamat> Without having to install debconf-utils. LIke, I know I can just install debconf-utils and `echo "foo" | debconf-set-selections ; dpkg-reconfigure foo` but that seems like a pretty obtuse way of going about it.
[21:13] <dbungert> bahamat: yes - https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/install/autoinstall has an example, heading debconf-selections
[21:13] <bahamat> awesome, thanks.
[22:41] <znf> bahamat, basically it's a clusterfuck, and the new preseed/autoinstall way is pretty bad
[22:41] <znf> who doesn't love booting 1.4GB ISO over PXE 
[22:43] <bahamat> I mean, it has the advantage of having a similar interface to cloud-init. And I liked that I could drop a yaml file on my raspberry-pi SD card to pre-configure it.
[22:43] <bahamat> But yeah, I would really love for there to be a mini installer like debian's net iso that's only like 50M or whatever.
[22:45] <ravage> https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mini-iso/daily-live/current/
[22:45] <ravage> So it will be available for 22.04 at least 
[22:46] <ravage> 24.04 I mean
[22:47] <znf> 24.04 is probably the one I skip
[22:47] <znf> as I usually replace/upgrade every ~4 years
[22:47] <znf> not backporting that to 22.04 is a mistake
[22:47] <ravage> It is
[22:48] <ravage> But that's what we get
[22:48] <znf> not to mention subiquity still sucks majorly
[22:49] <znf> whoever made that UI for manual configuration of the network cards must have never heard of a CIDR 
[22:49] <ravage> I replaced my pxe install for 22.04 with a bash Script 
[22:49] <ravage> Will give the installer a new try next year
[22:49] <znf> like, who asks for SUBNET first
[22:50] <znf> in CIDR format
[22:50] <znf> but then you ask for IP address
[22:50] <znf> ???!!
[22:50] <ravage> That is an odd choice 
[22:50] <znf> How did that make any sense
[22:50] <znf> I've talked with a lot of people with 10-15+ linux experience under their belt and everyone was insanely confused by that
[22:50] <bahamat> ravage: nice! I'll definitely be looking forward to that.
[22:51] <znf> don't get your hopes up, last time I checked that mini.iso bootstraps the larger one
[22:51] <znf> ie: you're still download like 1.4GB for the installer, but at least you're not doing it over the initial PXE stuff 
[22:52] <ravage> Nobody really cares about 1.4gb on a server setup
[22:53] <ravage> Usually has gigabit 
[22:53] <ravage> also if you can define a location where to get it via http that allows for the installation without actual Internet again 
[22:53] <ravage> Used that a few times already 
[22:54] <znf> I'm aware of that, and I already do it
[22:54] <znf> Still not optimal 
[22:55] <ravage> Still time for improvements. As I said I will give it another go next year
[22:55] <znf> And I have installed servers in remote locations with very poor network connectivity before, wasn't pleasant to do that with 22.04