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juliank#startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team15:04
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juliank#topic Lightning rounds15:04
juliank#link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-27-jul-202315:04
bdrungdviererbe, redarding the dash merge: I would prefer to see the mmdebstrap autopkgtest made working on Ubuntu15:09
schopinbdmurray: do Tim's changes to autopkgtest mean that we won't need to use retry-autopkgtest-regressions as much?15:10
schopinI mean the tool is still useful, but now I'll be able to just click the link rather than fire up a terminal :)15:10
bdmurrayschopin: I still think its useful for queueing things en masse but for one off tests you won't need to use it.15:11
dbungertthe retry tool can help group triggered tests together that the web UI won't necessarily offer15:11
juliankWhich is problematic in itself15:13
juliankBecause it might produce false positives15:13
juliankOr false negatives, imagine one trigger works and the other breaks it, you want to run them separately15:13
ogayotsometimes, retry-autopkgtest-regressions lists URLs for tests that are in progress. Does the fix for bug 2028801 address that as well?15:13
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2028801 in Auto Package Testing "test running and queued rejection says its queued" [Medium, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202880115:13
mateus-moraisdviererbe: I'll need to bring your dotnet6,7 changes to dotnet8 sometime soon, to avoid bringing back the DOTNET_ROOT bug and to perpetuate the other changes themselves15:14
bdmurrayogayot: no, that's independent but I'd be interested to hear more about the issue with r-a-r that you saw.15:14
ogayotbdmurray: sure, when I hit it, I'll let you know then15:15
juliankit's a bit peculiar because if you iterate over the queue you might not see all items15:15
dviererbebdrung: LP: 202886815:15
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2028868 in dash (Ubuntu) "make mmdebstrap autopkgtest test-case work for ubuntu archive" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202886815:15
juliankand there's a race condition where the worker takes it off the queue and and then notifies the frontend it's running it, I think15:15
dviererbemateus-morais: +1 definetly15:16
juliankLike we had failing tests that looped endlessly, and weren't able to remove them because the worker was always picking them directly, lol15:16
juliankAnyhow, continue?15:16
juliank#topic Release incoming bugs15:17
juliankWe have two releases with bugs today15:17
juliank#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:17
juliankbug 202782615:17
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2027826 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "Mantic Cloud-Images on amd64 Fail To Preseed Snaps" [Critical, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202782615:17
juliankvorlon tagged this but is not here15:17
dbungertso steve landed changes for this, outside of livecd-rootfs15:17
dbungertIt however hasn't migrated in a while, so I think we should figure out why.15:18
dbungertI know x_nox tagged this block-proposed but there are also failing tests15:18
juliankbut that's a different topic than the bug, it not migrating15:19
dbungertSteve's change is intended to address the bug15:19
juliankI understand that15:19
juliankBut the bug is not about livecd-rootfs not migrating15:21
dbungertI think there are no actions to take for this bug, in livecd-rootfs.15:22
juliankI think let's leave it as is, I don't see why it's in the state it is, we can revisit it when we have vorlon if it still is an sisue15:22
juliankbug 202682615:22
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2026826 in glib2.0 (Ubuntu) "glib2.0 (2.77.0 ) breaks Netplan build" [High, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202682615:22
juliankseems fixed15:23
danilogondolfohm netplan is not affected by it anymore, I wonder if we should remove the tag15:23
juliankbug 201740115:24
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2017401 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu) "Unexpected / unwanted unattended-upgrades behaviour after kernel upgrade when Livepatch enabled" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201740115:24
juliankUgh this is a complex topic that I don't think this is the right venue to address this in15:25
juliankThat's a wider discussion around Pro and update surfacing15:26
bdmurrayHow can we track if not here?15:27
juliankI do not know15:27
juliankI think this is working as intended for now15:28
juliankAnd there's a roadmap with improvements scheduled15:28
juliankI think I'll go assign it to server to have a look and comment15:28
juliankthis is a bit hacky15:30
juliankbut we can get back to it next week if needed15:30
juliankAh and ff has the same bug only, so we're done with bugs15:30
juliank#topic Team proposed-migration report15:30
juliank#link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs15:31
julianktoo many items, aargh15:31
juliankbug 202190815:32
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2021908 in Auto Package Testing "fwupd: network-based tests failed to run" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202190815:32
bdmurrayOh, that should be untagged update-excuse15:32
juliankah it only depends on Depends on glib2.015:33
juliankpcre2 vs suricata15:33
schopinI'll take that one.15:33
mateus-moraisI have pcre2 assigned from last week15:34
juliankah I missed that15:34
schopinoh well, nevermind then :)15:34
mateus-moraisschopin you can take it if you want, haven't been able to find the time :)15:34
schopinAlright, I'll take it.15:34
juliank(2 regressions, seemingly unrelated)15:35
adrienI recently made a merge for cdebconf but I'm not able to follow through due to being on vacation very soon15:35
juliankI see15:35
juliankI'm hacking grub together, I expect to be busy with grub stuff15:36
adrien(I hadn't checked cdebconf migrating)15:36
adrienbut at least one issue seems unrelated to my merge and the other I don't know, I haven't found the error yet15:36
juliankcdebconf: juliank15:37
julianklet me be first then15:37
juliankpython-reportlab we skip15:38
bdrunggroff vs dgit looks like a flaky dgit test case15:38
juliankI see bdrung volunteers to investigate that15:38
juliankgroff: bdrung15:38
julianklots of regressions for init-system-helpersy15:39
bdrungThen someone else has to pick up the initramfs-tools and apport fun15:39
ginggsi'll take groff then15:39
juliankI think it's a retry basically, armhf remote died in middle of test15:40
juliankinit-system-helpers vs davmail15:40
* juliank can roll a dice but it's hard15:41
zhsjjuliank: i will take15:41
juliankinit-system-helpers vs davmail: zhsj15:41
juliankinit-system-helpers vs dbus?15:41
pushkarnkjuliank: I'll give it a shot15:42
juliankpushkarnk: I was about to say this looks like an infrastructure issue for QA to deal with15:42
pushkarnkalright :)15:42
juliankbdmurray: can you guys check that?15:43
juliankudev hangs, and then kernel crashes and hence boot doesn't finish15:43
juliankinit-system-helpers vs ganglia?15:44
bdmurrayjuliank: which one?15:44
waveformI can take ganglia15:44
juliankbdmurray: init-system-helpers vs dbus15:44
juliankinit-system-helpers vs ganglia: waveform15:45
juliankinit-system-helpers vs openafs15:45
pushkarnkI'll take it15:47
juliankinit-system-helpers vs openafs: pushkarnk15:47
juliankinit-system-helpers vs openvswitch?15:47
danilogondolfoI can take a look15:48
juliankinit-system-helpers vs openvswitch: danilogondolfo15:48
juliankinit-system-helpers vs prometheus: dbungert15:49
juliankinit-system-helpers vs slurm-wlm: ogayot15:50
ogayotjuliank: ack15:51
juliankinit-system-helpers vs systemd: vpa197715:51
julianklivecd-rootfs: sil210015:52
juliankopenjdk-17  vs davmail: liushuyu15:52
dbungertjuliank: ack15:52
juliankopenjdk-17 vs libreoffice needs QA work: bdmurray15:53
julianklibreoffice is blacklisted15:53
ginggsjuliank: i retried that one already15:53
ginggsstill running, i think15:53
juliankginggs: it#s blacklisted it shouldn't run?15:53
ginggsi removed it from the list15:54
ginggssince s390x is happy again15:54
juliankcurl vs cmake dviererbe15:54
bdmurrayfor now15:54
juliankcurl vs falcosecurity-libs: xypron15:54
juliankcurl vs systemd: enr0n15:55
enr0njuliank: ack15:55
juliankcurl vs virtualbox: doko15:55
juliankboost1.74 vs bagel: slyon15:56
juliankboost1.74 vs dolfin: mateus-morais15:56
juliankI think everyone has one so let's wrap it up15:57
juliank#topic aob15:57
waveformI'll be out Wed-Fri next week covering school hols15:57
bdmurrayI'll be out all of next week15:58
juliankvorlon: I did not give you any proposed-migration, but it would be nice to restructure this into a script that feeds an epic and then people go pick items from that rather than do it in the meeting, as linear nature just wastes time vs free for all15:59
juliankI'll be out the week after next week15:59
adrienI'll be out all of august basically15:59
juliankcrypto-configuration sadness16:00
juliankWe're out of time!16:01
meetingologyMeeting ended at 16:01:15 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-07-27-15.04.moin.txt16:01
adrienone day to finish it shall be enough!16:01

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