[15:01] <bdrung> \o
[15:01] <ogayot> o/
[15:01] <dviererbe> o/
[15:01] <juliank> +2 mins
[15:01] <mateus-morais> o/
[15:01] <zhsj> o/
[15:01] <ginggs> o/
[15:02] <schopin> o/
[15:02] <pushkarnk> o/
[15:03] <juliank> o/
[15:04] <juliank> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
[15:04] <meetingology> Meeting started at 15:04:10 UTC.  The chair is juliank.  Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology
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[15:04] <juliank> #topic Lightning rounds
[15:04] <juliank> #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-27-jul-2023
[15:09] <bdrung> dviererbe, redarding the dash merge: I would prefer to see the mmdebstrap autopkgtest made working on Ubuntu
[15:10] <schopin> bdmurray: do Tim's changes to autopkgtest mean that we won't need to use retry-autopkgtest-regressions as much?
[15:10] <schopin> I mean the tool is still useful, but now I'll be able to just click the link rather than fire up a terminal :)
[15:11] <bdmurray> schopin: I still think its useful for queueing things en masse but for one off tests you won't need to use it.
[15:11] <dbungert> the retry tool can help group triggered tests together that the web UI won't necessarily offer
[15:13] <juliank> Which is problematic in itself
[15:13] <juliank> Because it might produce false positives
[15:13] <juliank> Or false negatives, imagine one trigger works and the other breaks it, you want to run them separately
[15:13] <ogayot> sometimes, retry-autopkgtest-regressions lists URLs for tests that are in progress. Does the fix for bug 2028801 address that as well?
[15:13] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2028801 in Auto Package Testing "test running and queued rejection says its queued" [Medium, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2028801
[15:14] <mateus-morais> dviererbe: I'll need to bring your dotnet6,7 changes to dotnet8 sometime soon, to avoid bringing back the DOTNET_ROOT bug and to perpetuate the other changes themselves
[15:14] <bdmurray> ogayot: no, that's independent but I'd be interested to hear more about the issue with r-a-r that you saw.
[15:15] <ogayot> bdmurray: sure, when I hit it, I'll let you know then
[15:15] <juliank> it's a bit peculiar because if you iterate over the queue you might not see all items
[15:15] <dviererbe> bdrung: LP: 2028868
[15:15] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2028868 in dash (Ubuntu) "make mmdebstrap autopkgtest test-case work for ubuntu archive" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2028868
[15:15] <juliank> and there's a race condition where the worker takes it off the queue and and then notifies the frontend it's running it, I think
[15:16] <dviererbe> mateus-morais: +1 definetly
[15:16] <juliank> Like we had failing tests that looped endlessly, and weren't able to remove them because the worker was always picking them directly, lol
[15:16] <juliank> Anyhow, continue?
[15:17] <juliank> #topic Release incoming bugs
[15:17] <juliank> We have two releases with bugs today
[15:17] <juliank> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:17] <juliank> bug 2027826
[15:17] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2027826 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "Mantic Cloud-Images on amd64 Fail To Preseed Snaps" [Critical, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2027826
[15:17] <juliank> vorlon tagged this but is not here
[15:17] <dbungert> so steve landed changes for this, outside of livecd-rootfs
[15:18] <dbungert> It however hasn't migrated in a while, so I think we should figure out why.
[15:18] <dbungert> I know x_nox tagged this block-proposed but there are also failing tests
[15:19] <juliank> but that's a different topic than the bug, it not migrating
[15:19] <dbungert> Steve's change is intended to address the bug
[15:19] <juliank> I understand that
[15:21] <juliank> But the bug is not about livecd-rootfs not migrating
[15:21] <dbungert> ok
[15:22] <dbungert> I think there are no actions to take for this bug, in livecd-rootfs.
[15:22] <juliank> I think let's leave it as is, I don't see why it's in the state it is, we can revisit it when we have vorlon if it still is an sisue
[15:22] <juliank> bug 2026826
[15:22] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2026826 in glib2.0 (Ubuntu) "glib2.0 (2.77.0 ) breaks Netplan build" [High, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2026826
[15:23] <juliank> seems fixed
[15:23] <danilogondolfo> hm netplan is not affected by it anymore, I wonder if we should remove the tag
[15:24] <juliank> sldone
[15:24] <juliank> bug 2017401
[15:24] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2017401 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu) "Unexpected / unwanted unattended-upgrades behaviour after kernel upgrade when Livepatch enabled" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2017401
[15:25] <juliank> Ugh this is a complex topic that I don't think this is the right venue to address this in
[15:26] <juliank> That's a wider discussion around Pro and update surfacing
[15:27] <bdmurray> How can we track if not here?
[15:27] <juliank> I do not know
[15:28] <juliank> I think this is working as intended for now
[15:28] <juliank> And there's a roadmap with improvements scheduled
[15:28] <juliank> I think I'll go assign it to server to have a look and comment
[15:30] <juliank> this is a bit hacky
[15:30] <juliank> but we can get back to it next week if needed
[15:30] <juliank> Ah and ff has the same bug only, so we're done with bugs
[15:30] <juliank> #topic Team proposed-migration report
[15:31] <juliank> #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[15:31] <juliank> too many items, aargh
[15:32] <juliank> fwupd
[15:32] <juliank> bug 2021908
[15:32] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2021908 in Auto Package Testing "fwupd: network-based tests failed to run" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2021908
[15:32] <bdmurray> Oh, that should be untagged update-excuse
[15:33] <juliank> ah it only depends on Depends on glib2.0
[15:33] <juliank> pcre2 vs suricata
[15:33] <schopin> I'll take that one.
[15:34] <mateus-morais> I have pcre2 assigned from last week
[15:34] <juliank> ah I missed that
[15:34] <schopin> oh well, nevermind then :)
[15:34] <mateus-morais> schopin you can take it if you want, haven't been able to find the time :)
[15:34] <schopin> Alright, I'll take it.
[15:34] <juliank> cdebconf
[15:35] <juliank> (2 regressions, seemingly unrelated)
[15:35] <adrien> I recently made a merge for cdebconf but I'm not able to follow through due to being on vacation very soon
[15:35] <juliank> I see
[15:36] <juliank> I'm hacking grub together, I expect to be busy with grub stuff
[15:36] <adrien> (I hadn't checked cdebconf migrating)
[15:36] <adrien> but at least one issue seems unrelated to my merge and the other I don't know, I haven't found the error yet
[15:37] <juliank> cdebconf: juliank
[15:37] <juliank> let me be first then
[15:38] <juliank> python-reportlab we skip
[15:38] <bdrung> groff vs dgit looks like a flaky dgit test case
[15:38] <juliank> I see bdrung volunteers to investigate that
[15:38] <juliank> :D
[15:38] <juliank> groff: bdrung
[15:39] <juliank> lots of regressions for init-system-helpersy
[15:39] <bdrung> Then someone else has to pick up the initramfs-tools and apport fun
[15:39] <ginggs> i'll take groff then
[15:40] <juliank> I think it's a retry basically, armhf remote died in middle of test
[15:40] <juliank> init-system-helpers vs davmail
[15:41]  * juliank can roll a dice but it's hard
[15:41] <zhsj> juliank: i will take
[15:41] <juliank> init-system-helpers vs davmail: zhsj
[15:41] <juliank> init-system-helpers vs dbus?
[15:42] <pushkarnk> juliank: I'll give it a shot
[15:42] <juliank> pushkarnk: I was about to say this looks like an infrastructure issue for QA to deal with
[15:42] <pushkarnk> alright :)
[15:43] <juliank> bdmurray: can you guys check that?
[15:43] <juliank> udev hangs, and then kernel crashes and hence boot doesn't finish
[15:44] <juliank> init-system-helpers vs ganglia?
[15:44] <bdmurray> juliank: which one?
[15:44] <waveform> I can take ganglia
[15:44] <juliank> bdmurray: init-system-helpers vs dbus
[15:45] <juliank> init-system-helpers vs ganglia: waveform
[15:45] <juliank> init-system-helpers vs openafs
[15:47] <pushkarnk> I'll take it
[15:47] <juliank> init-system-helpers vs openafs: pushkarnk
[15:47] <juliank> init-system-helpers vs openvswitch?
[15:48] <danilogondolfo> I can take a look
[15:48] <juliank> init-system-helpers vs openvswitch: danilogondolfo
[15:49] <juliank> init-system-helpers vs prometheus: dbungert
[15:50] <juliank> init-system-helpers vs slurm-wlm: ogayot
[15:51] <ogayot> juliank: ack
[15:51] <juliank> init-system-helpers vs systemd: vpa1977
[15:52] <juliank> livecd-rootfs: sil2100
[15:52] <juliank> openjdk-17  vs davmail: liushuyu
[15:52] <dbungert> juliank: ack
[15:53] <juliank> openjdk-17 vs libreoffice needs QA work: bdmurray
[15:53] <juliank> libreoffice is blacklisted
[15:53] <ginggs> juliank: i retried that one already
[15:53] <ginggs> still running, i think
[15:53] <juliank> ginggs: it#s blacklisted it shouldn't run?
[15:54] <ginggs> i removed it from the list
[15:54] <ginggs> since s390x is happy again
[15:54] <juliank> curl vs cmake dviererbe
[15:54] <bdmurray> for now
[15:54] <juliank> curl vs falcosecurity-libs: xypron
[15:55] <juliank> curl vs systemd: enr0n
[15:55] <enr0n> juliank: ack
[15:55] <juliank> curl vs virtualbox: doko
[15:56] <juliank> boost1.74 vs bagel: slyon
[15:56] <juliank> boost1.74 vs dolfin: mateus-morais
[15:57] <juliank> I think everyone has one so let's wrap it up
[15:57] <juliank> #topic aob
[15:57] <waveform> I'll be out Wed-Fri next week covering school hols
[15:58] <bdmurray> I'll be out all of next week
[15:59] <juliank> vorlon: I did not give you any proposed-migration, but it would be nice to restructure this into a script that feeds an epic and then people go pick items from that rather than do it in the meeting, as linear nature just wastes time vs free for all
[15:59] <juliank> I'll be out the week after next week
[15:59] <adrien> I'll be out all of august basically
[16:00] <juliank> crypto-configuration sadness
[16:00] <juliank> :)
[16:01] <juliank> We're out of time!
[16:01] <juliank> #endmeeting
[16:01] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 16:01:15 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-07-27-15.04.moin.txt
[16:01] <adrien> one day to finish it shall be enough!