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nvmdSo gnome keeps crashing from time to time, and I consistently find this on system logs00:19
nvmdhttps://termbin.com/2bej00:19
sarnoldI think the first gnome debugging step is to disable all the extensions and see how it goes00:19
nvmdvery well00:19
oerheks!memtest00:28
Yakovhow to call locate 'keyword', so files would be sorted by date, newest on top?00:28
oerheksYakov, such info is hard to find.. in google00:29
oerhekshttps://linuxhandbook.com/sort-ls-by-date-time00:29
sarnoldI don't think locate has that option00:29
oerheksooh locate00:30
oerheksno, find00:30
oerheksfind '$dir' -name '$str'\* -print | head -1000:30
Yakovlooking for latest coredump00:30
sarnoldprobably that's just ls -l --sort=time /var/crash00:31
Yakovsays total 000:31
sarnoldhooray no crashes :)00:32
sarnoldor maybe that means they've all been sent to whoopsie already? i'm not sure :/00:32
rfmremember new files won't show up in locate until updatedb runs, usually late at night00:33
oerheksxdg-open https://errors.ubuntu.com/user/`sudo cat /var/lib/whoopsie/whoopsie-id`00:34
sarnoldah there we go :D00:34
oerheksmake an alias of that00:34
oerheksalias sarnold=xdg-open https://errors.ubuntu.com/user/`sudo cat /var/lib/whoopsie/whoopsie-id`00:35
oerheks:-D00:35
sarnoldlol00:35
oerheksV1A, fix your connection please00:36
V1Ayea this client somehow changed, i love updates00:38
V1A yo can someone make sense of this https://i.postimg.cc/fW1nsJkw/wtf.jpg01:18
V1Aalways some ASUSTek_C: and AVMAudio_ ARP around the client drops. first time seeing this01:19
konrad_I'm so tired of this... trying to setup exim. And I'm stuck on the config files. I just don't know which should I edit. For example I changed dc_other_hostnames in /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf (can I do it?) and there is no such thing in /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated after `update-exim4.conf` and even restarting the service. Is this normal?01:33
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sarnoldkonrad_: maybe try postfix instead? that'll be better tested01:36
konrad_no, sarnold - it has to be exim, not my decision. It can't be that complicated... whyyyyy it is?01:37
sarnoldkonrad_: dang. maybe dpkg-reconfigure exim4?01:39
thriceI'm not an expert, but I see an update-exim4.conf binary that might need running after editing /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf01:40
konrad_sarnold - I started with that. And I was following some tutorial. But apparently something's wrong, if I'll just start it again, I'll probably make the same mistakes. So I would prefer to understand those things first.01:41
konrad_thrice, yes, I run this command everytime I change anything.01:42
sarnoldkonrad_: *nod* understanding everything first is a pretty good starting point.01:42
thricekonrad_: if you use that command's "-o" and write to your home directory, is it right?01:46
konrad_:) I thought it will be simple and I will not have to read books about it :) But... it's not simple. It's not clear after reading a lot (I've been sitting on this for ~12h) which files I should edit. There is this `exim4.conf.template`, then there i `exim4.conf` (which I had to create... nobody explained that in any of the docs I have read). E.g. I'm not sure where I should add `MAIN_TLS_ENABLE = yes` - the docs & tutorials say01:46
konrad_"add it to the `/etc/exim4/conf.d/main/03_exim4-config_tlsoptions` but since I have dc_use_split_config='false' then it's just not true.01:46
konrad_thrice - I don't understand, what do you mean by "that command's "-o""?01:47
thriceyou read the manpage?  It sort of explains it, https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man8/update-exim4.conf.8.html01:47
thricekonrad_: -o changes the output file location.  So, you could try update-exim4.conf -o ~/config.autogenerated and see how it looks01:48
konrad_ah, that. but I can just look at the '/var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated' right? Besides the other things seem to work when I'll put them to 'exim4.conf.template' , like tls_certificate = /etc/letsencrypt/live/my-domain/fullchain.pem -i.e. this is generated in the config.autogenerated file. hmmm, now I'm not actually sure...01:51
konrad_sec01:51
thriceI was just curious if the issue was writing it to /var/lib/01:52
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thricewell, that sounds good - afaik from the manpage, if you're using "dc_use_split_config"01:53
thriceoops, sorry, if you're not01:54
thrice       If   you   are   not   using   split    configuration    update-exim4.conf    concatenates01:54
thrice       /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.localmacros (if this file exists) and /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template01:54
thrice       (in this order) and makes the debconf replacement described below.01:54
konrad_ahhh, no, that works. Now I can see that even if I created the /etc/exim/exim4.conf file - it seems it's not being read o.O but `exim -bV` says.01:57
konrad_oh, the manual you linked, thrice says  "update-exim4.conf exits silently and does nothing if /etc/exim4/exim4.conf" maybe I should not create this file, in contrast to what one of the tutorials said... sec...01:57
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konrad_ok.. looks like I should edit the /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template file. Also I should add the `MAIN_TLS_ENABLE = yes` in this file just below '# TLS/SSL configuration for exim as an SMTP server.'. And yes, I have splitting config files disabled (dc_use_split_config='false'). OK... thank you thrice & sarnold. Apparently, I have a lot of reading ahead of me; these tutorials are terrible.02:04
sarnoldkonrad_: that's my memory of exim, yes :(02:06
sarnoldkonrad_: good luck02:06
thricealways check the manpage before rando internet tutorials :)02:07
konrad_sarnold, - yeah, my friend told me exactly this, he also said "sorry, I'm not gonna get back to this, I won't help you" :) And thanks, luck will be necessary I guess :)02:09
konrad_thrice, yeah, but... . But I still can't see the `dc_other_hostnames` variable in the config.autogenerated file... I don't get it. It is there in the update-exim4.conf.conf, and according to the man, it should be read...02:09
sarnoldkonrad_: heh, what a pal :)02:10
konrad_:)02:10
thricekonrad_: why not put that in /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template too?02:13
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konrad_because... some tutorial told me to put it in the update... file. Plus, in the manual for update-exim4.conf they say: " before  outputting  the  result  to  /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated,02:15
konrad_       update-exim4.conf  generates  a  number  of exim configuration macros from the contents of02:15
konrad_       dc_something  from   /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf   and   inserts   them   into   the02:15
konrad_       configuration   right   after   the   definition   of   the   exim   configuration   macro02:15
konrad_       UPEX4CmacrosUPEX4C "02:15
konrad_oh, sorry for that formatting.02:15
lotuspsychjeuse a paste plz konrad_02:15
thricekonrad_: does it work in exim4.conf.template ?02:16
konrad_TheRedQueen, - thanks :) I'll use a paste next time. thrice - but I have no idea where exactly should I put it. This file (...template) is huge. Besides, it seems that update-exim4.conf *does* read it, but puts it into a different 'macro' (as apparently they call it)- i.e. into MAIN_LOCAL_DOMAINS02:19
konrad_ah, TheRedQueen is a bot, I really *am* tired :). Anyway - the manual for update-exim4.conf says:"the  macro   definitions  are  bracketed  with  .ifdef clauses to allow the local admin to override the  values with  earlier  definitions" - what is "local admin"?02:22
thricethat would be you02:24
konrad_So who is a hmmm "global non local admin"?02:25
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thricesay overriding the default that ships in the package02:29
konrad_Wow, someone wrote a whole book about Exim... an entire book! And they even claim in the book description that Exim is easy to configure. Then why write a book about it? The table of contents alone has about 100 entries. ( https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/exim-the-mail/0596000987/ )02:30
konrad_thrice, ah, ok, got it.02:30
konrad_Hey, a tutorial tells me to run `/usr/share/doc/exim4-base/examples/exim-gencert` and it outputs: "Creating a self signed SSL certificate for Exim!  This may be sufficient to establish encrypted connections but for  secure identification you need to buy a real certificate!" - do I understand this correctly - I need to buy a cert, to send emails? BTW, my domain has a cert from lets encrypt, does it count?02:52
konrad_It worked!!! The only thing is I have no idea why....02:57
rboxwhy what02:58
konrad_Why it worked (email was sent by exim). I did run this 'exim-gencert' and it worked, But now, as part of the tests, to find out if generating these files was the reason it worked, I deleted the exim.crt and exim.key files and... it still works..02:59
rboxthose are only used for TLS03:00
konrad_ok, but I do need TLS to send emails, right?03:00
rboxno03:01
di3Hi.03:02
di3Is this a good place to ask a question regarding Bottles?03:02
webchat57hi03:03
di3Hello.03:04
webchat57is this place for technical help03:04
di3I think it is, though I am not 100%.03:04
webchat57oh03:05
dareio777hey03:06
webchat57so ı posted my questioon on ask ubuntu too https://askubuntu.com/questions/1479939/gnome-does-not-start-at-starup-after-upgrading-ubuntu-from-22-04-to-23-0403:06
webchat57hey03:06
webchat57ı would be greatly appriciated if anyone help03:06
konrad_rbox I... don't understand a thing. I had a warning "Warning: No server certificate defined; will use a selfsigned one" so I followed a tutorial and i set the tls_certificate and tls_privatekey, the warning vanished. But I still could NOT send an email. I got "support@mydomain: Unrouteable address". Now it just started working. I want to know what worked, so I removed these tls_xyz settings and it still works! I have no idea03:07
konrad_why...03:07
rboxsounds like you changed other stuff then03:07
konrad_rbox, I reverted those changes one after another... to find out the reason. Except one actually, sec...03:10
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konrad_rbox, Now I have reverted all the changes, ran update-exim4.conf, and just to be sure, restarted the service. And... unfortunately, it's still working. I say 'unfortunately' because the next time I will configure Exim somewhere else (and I already know I will have to do it soon), I will have problems again. I... well, I have no idea why it suddenly started working :(03:15
konrad_Should the dc_other_hostnames in update-exim4.conf.conf be a domain (like example.org) or an email like something@example.org?03:17
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di3Does anyone know anything about Bottles?03:20
VlAhey everyone, question: what was the command that automatically removes uhm .. unused packages and such03:39
konrad_guiverc, is this Samoyed? :) I have a husky, your dog probably leaves fur all over the place too, doesn't it?03:40
guiverc#ubuntu-offtopic for non-Ubuntu discussion please03:40
konrad_ok03:40
konrad_VlA - sudo apt autoremove ?03:40
konrad_and before doing that, `apt-get update` and `apt-get upgrade`03:42
Bashing-omVlA: ^ and if ya also want the config files gone too add --purge .03:42
VlAya did that, the upgrade and all03:43
VlAthers 3 repositories i get error from03:44
konrad_If you don't need them, then maybe you want to remove them from /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?03:46
VlAhmm looks like its doing something now03:46
VlAkonrad_: ty, i was looking for them but nowhere in the options or GUI do I see those repos03:47
VlAand what is this "System program problem detected - Do you want to report the problem now?" I think iv had that .. but it never shows me anything so I dont know whats what03:50
konrad_You should have a button like "details" or "more..." or something like that.03:54
VlAkonrad thers nothing thats why im suspicious04:00
VlAkonrad_:04:00
VlAclicked yes nothing happened .. its just odd04:01
konrad_VlA,  try `sudo cat /var/log/apport.log`04:02
konrad_or maybe rather `less /var/log/apport.log`04:03
VlAwhat will that do04:05
VlAuhu04:06
konrad_if it was Apport app which displayed this message dialog, then there is a chance it also logged some information to this file.04:06
VlAthers a log yep04:07
VlAmostly abt xorg crashing04:07
konrad_I have no idea what it is, but you can also try to `less /var/log/Xorg.0.log`, maybe you'll find something.04:09
VlAi can see those but not really understand without using my brain04:10
VlAugh im awake for too long already04:10
VlAfirst line in the 2nd command you gave me is odd:04:10
VlAERROR: apport (pid 1370) Fri Jul 28 03:42:56 2023: called for pid 1350, signal 6, core limit 18446744073709551615, dump mode 104:11
VlAcore limit ...(?) ?! where do they get this number from04:12
VlAERROR: apport (pid 1370) Fri Jul 28 03:42:56 2023: ignoring implausibly big core limit, treating as unlimited04:12
konrad_core limit is just a limit of core dump -  a file containing the memory image of a crashed program that can be useful for debugging the cause of the crash, 8446744073709551615 is the maximum possible value for the core dump limit, which effectively means that core dumping is not limited.04:17
konrad_not sure if this huge limit is something normal though.04:18
konrad_btw, In this file, there should be more information than just some things about the core dump limit04:20
VlAits just like 1 page i can upload it if you can take a look konrad_04:23
VlAis there a preferable platform for this? i usually use privnote.com for anything plaintext04:25
konrad_https://paste.ubuntu.com/ I guess (that's in the channel's description, so I guess that's the best option)04:26
VlApoint04:26
VlAlol seems i have an account for some reason, dont mind the username. highly creative.04:31
VlAhow do you stop those "sudo lesss /var/xyz commands? the usual [CTRL]+c doesnt do anything04:34
Bashing-omVlA: 'q' to quit out of less.04:36
VlAty Bashing-om !!!04:38
Bashing-omVlA: :D04:38
VlAty Bashing-om !!!04:38
VlAsry wrong window04:38
konrad_You're lucky it's not VIM, or you'd end up with one of the most popular questions on Stack Overflow :)04:38
ericsysminany one here ever install python3-apt but using the pip install04:40
matsamanericsysmin: hrmm?04:56
ericsysmintrying to get python3-apt to work but on python3.11 on a ubuntu 20.04 container04:57
ericsysminbut python3.11 won't recognize it04:57
matsamanpython 3.11, on 20.04?05:00
ericsysminyea05:11
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mIk3_08Hello everyone06:13
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MohaI'm going to refference to 'Jammy' codename, but it's not mentioned here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames !06:41
MohaEven, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JammyJellyfish says: This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates.06:43
whiskey76I was trying to dual boot windows and ubuntu, but after changing the mobo setting from CSM to UEFI windows couldn't detect ethernet anymore. Switched back to CSM and it was detected again. Is this normal or was there something else going on?06:45
whiskey76MSI B450 Tomahawk Max fwiw06:45
guivercMoha, the wiki is slowly being deprecated... newer release pages are no longer added there, but discourse.   As for the jammy page; are you aware of a good example to link to (I note same on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases)06:50
guivercits' the same for all modern releases (eg. kinetic).. I think a script generates the page and the pages its linked to are no longer put on wiki06:50
guivercwhiskey76, its not abnormal... uEFI is a different security setup & unsigned software can fail to operate there, software that works fine under CSM ... but I'm no expert sorry06:52
whiskey76Understood, thanks. I googled and found someone who said that UEFI-only settings can enable stuff like fast boot, which can "break the boot process." So yeah, oh well. Kinda hit a brick wall. :)06:57
guivercmost issues occur with secure-uEFI.. rather than uEFI alone07:19
whiskey76ah ok07:20
VlAim not a fan of UEFI at all, i prefer having CSM on07:31
crstHi, how can I add a second interface with a private subnet to my server (latest-lts)?07:50
crstBeen running into exactly this https://github.com/canonical/microk8s/issues/313207:51
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 3132 in canonical/microk8s "microk8s netscans external network (calico/iptables issue)" [Closed]07:51
ice9how to disable bluetooth power notifications like for Mouse in gnome-shell?08:14
KING123hi08:32
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jackirc://irc.abjects.net/moviegods08:42
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webmindHope this is the right place for ubuntu-server, but I've tried installing it on an encrypted lvm ontop of raid09:33
webmindand after reboot init can't find the root partition09:33
webminduuid doesn't exist, but initram also doesn't have any lvm tools it seems09:34
MaxGanzIIIs #Ubuntu-touch the main channel for Touch?  only five people in there.09:57
`rybangreetings!10:44
Mohain `sudo snap install openstack --channel 2023.1`, what does "2023.1" stands for? Ref: https://microstack.run/docs/single-node Is | Is it the stable version?10:53
thricefrom the first sentence on the page, it sounds like it10:55
ograMoha, snap info openstack ... shows all available channels and versions ...11:17
ogra(2023.1 is the only "stable" channel in that list)11:17
ograMoha, typically if you do just omit --channel you will automatically get what the packager considered the stable channel though ...11:20
pydev1hello11:36
pydev1i have a php script that upload file via ftp11:36
pydev1i need to set a rule in UFW to allow11:36
pydev1outgoingi connection11:36
pydev1to 22 port11:36
pydev1how can i do that?11:36
pydev1allow tcp 21 ?11:36
lotuspsychje!firewall | pydev111:37
ubottupydev1: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as gufw and ufw-kde also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo11:37
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BluesKajHi all12:52
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anvixiouso/14:00
bolnav[m]ciao14:06
greatgatsby__Hi.  Does ubuntu provide ISOs for a full offline server install?  The only server install ISO I can find is the live version, and the full desktop ISO doesn't seem to include nfs-common.14:28
leftyfbgreatgatsby__: the server installer doesn't need the internet to install ubuntu14:29
greatgatsby__right, but I need nfs-common14:29
greatgatsby__so I'm trying to find an ubuntu installer ISO that I can mount and use as a local sources.list entry, but I need nfs-common14:30
patocangreatgatsby__, can you not just include it in the image?14:31
leftyfbpatocan: they would have to make a custom image14:31
patocanI know there are ways of making custom images14:31
greatgatsby__I'm booting from the stock cloud-image14:31
leftyfbgreatgatsby__: nfs-common is not part of any ubuntu manifest14:31
greatgatsby__pool/main/n/nfs-utils/nfs-common_2.6.1-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb14:32
thricenfs-common/lunar 1:2.6.2-4ubuntu1 amd6414:32
leftyfbgreatgatsby__: yes, it is a package in ubuntu14:32
leftyfbit is not included in any of the ubuntu installers14:32
greatgatsby__I see, ok, thanks.  I'll have to figure something else out.14:33
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patocangreatgatsby__, maybe this helps (see section 5) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization14:35
greatgatsby__patocan: thanks, that might be necessary14:36
MohaI'm following this instruction: https://microstack.run/docs/single-node to install MicroStack. Due to the area I'm in, I have trouble receiving packages from the following address: registry.terraform.io | the error that I get: https://paste.ubuntu.ir/avova15:00
MohaDo you know another registry for Traform to use for mirror configuration in the rc file of Traform: https://paste.ubuntu.ir/jrpjb15:01
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Scrappyhello all, i have a question......is there linux software like aida64??19:31
sarnoldwhat does that do?19:32
oerhekssysinfo software19:32
oerheksScrappy, tons of them,  https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-linux-hardware-and-system-info-tools/19:33
oerheksthough lscpu lspci lshw and dmidecode are usually enough to show details19:33
oerheksand lsusb19:33
sarnoldaha :) I also like lstopo19:34
oerheksneofetch is populair too https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/11/neofetch-terminal-system-info-app19:36
oerheksClient: HexChat 2.16.0 • OS: Ubuntu "jammy" 22.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz (800MHz) • Memory: Physical: 22,9 GiB Total (18,8 GiB Free) Swap: 2,0 GiB Total (2,0 GiB Free) • Storage: 626,2 GB / 1,7 TB (1,1 TB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Juniper XT [Radeon HD 6770] @ Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor DRAM Controller • Uptime: 3d 11h 46m 13s19:36
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Rechyhi guys20:18
heyhey20:36
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cambrian_invaderI accidentally deleted my /var and /boot partitions21:52
cambrian_invaderI still have everything else on my root filesystem21:52
oerhekssave your data, and reinstall21:53
cambrian_invaderwell, as I understand it, the main thing missing is /var/lib/dpkg21:53
oerhekscurrent sessions shows those files exist, and work. use that opportunity21:53
cambrian_invaderwhat?21:53
oerhekswhat?21:54
oerhekssave your data, and reinstall21:54
cambrian_invaderno, the second part21:54
oerheksyour system is still running, so use it to backup.21:55
cambrian_invaderno, I am on another system21:55
cambrian_invaderwith my hard drive mounted21:55
cambrian_invaderanyway, my plan was to use apt-file to determine which packages to install21:56
cambrian_invadercan't get the version, but it should be close enough21:57
cambrian_invaderideally I would be able to look up packages by the hash of the installed file21:58
jhutchinsIdeally you would have made backups before working on partitions.22:13
oerheksno backup, your data is unimportant.22:14
cambrian_invaderjhutchins: I did not intend to be working on partitions :)22:22
oerheksdocmax, fix your connection please22:22
jhutchinscambrian_invader: It is exactly for unexpected problems that regular backups are made.22:51
cambrian_invaderjhutchins: alas, I have none; however I do have most of my system22:57
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ash_guestWell this is a new one for me23:34
ash_guestI try to log in and it doesn't show the desktop23:35
ash_guestIt just rerenders the login screen23:35
ash_guestDoesn't show a failure23:35
ash_guestAnd looking at the pass I can see it's correct23:36
ash_guestWhen I try with a bad password, or reports that it's bad23:36
ash_guestI'm sorta shocked23:36
oerheksboot in recovery mode, and try something like apt install -f23:37
ash_guestoerheks should I try from the console first on another tty?23:38
oerheksyou could try, but i doubt it would work23:39
ash_guestIt didn't23:39
oerheksapt update && apt dist-upgrade && apt install -f23:39
ash_guestHmm23:40
ash_guestHow do I get grub up?23:41
sarnoldtry holding down left shift while booting23:42
ash_guestK23:42
ash_guestThanks23:43
ash_guestBooting recovery23:43
ash_guestThere are options I don't remember seeing for recovery, I guess dpgk is the most applicable?23:44
sarnoldI can't recall what menu options there are,or what they do..23:44
ash_guestOptions include resume, clean, dpkg, fsck, grub, network, root and system-memory23:45
ash_guestActually, probably root23:45
sarnoldoerheks's idea is pretty good, apt install -f ; dpkg --configure -a23:45
ash_guestLooks like this:https://askcaty.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Grub-Ubuntu-Recovery-Mode.png23:45
ash_guestInstall -f => noting new, --configure had no output23:47
WeeBeyhi! quick question. When you do 'uptime'; does it show just 1 user or multiple? (this is for like most single user computers)23:47
oerheksWeeBey, 1 user23:47
WeeBeyoerheks, something is rotten then. Mine shows 3. weebey, weebey, and weebey.23:48
ash_guestApt update failed to fetch, I guess I'm not connected23:48
WeeBeyI think the resume from suspend is being weird.23:48
ash_guestI exited recovery and the desktop is back, although it's prompting to authenticate a bunch of crap23:49
ash_guestThe first thing was a "color profile" now it's a "color manager"23:50
ash_guestKinda sus23:50
ash_guestMaybe I'll cancel and see if update/upgrade works23:51
ash_guestSeems to be working... Dist-upgrade did nothing23:53
ash_mtest23:53
ash_mk, seems to be working for the time being23:53
sarnoldash_m: how about your journalctl output? I wonder if you can find hints on what went wrong?23:54
ash_mI wouldn't know what to look for... is that something I can pastebin?23:54
ash_mmy _guess_ considering it wanted me to authenticate as soon as I signed in, it authenticating a bunch of things23:56
sarnoldash_m: yeah, you could pastebin it if you'd like second opinion on things23:57

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