[01:45] <migs> hello
[01:45] <migs> I just installed Mixxx, and I loaded a track, and played it but no sound comes out
[01:45] <migs> I looked at the sound hardware, but not sure what I need to do
[02:43] <laird> howdy, i'm trying to update my virt-install script to jammy and running into an issue where the install location seems to have disappeared: http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jammy/main/installer-amd64/current/legacy-images/index.html
[02:44] <rbox> laird: what?
[02:45] <laird> i'm doing something like this:
[02:45] <laird> sudo virt-install --virt-type kvm --name eel --ram 2048 --vcpus 1 --disk path=/vm/eel_d0.qcow2,size=10,format=qcow2 --network bridge=br0,mac=52:54:00:64:5b:29 --graphics none --noautoconsole --wait 20 --autostart --cpu kvm64 --location 'http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jammy/main/installer-amd64/' --console pty,target_type=sclp
[02:45] <laird> --initrd-inject=http://mule.laird.net/ks/ubuntu.preseed --extra-args="locale=en_US auto=true priority=critical netcfg/use_autoconfig=true netcfg/disable_dhcp=false hostname=eel netcfg/get_domain=domain.com network-console/password=instpass network-console/start=true file=file:/preseed.cfg console=ttyS0"
[02:47] <laird> some comments on discourse made me wonder if install patterns like this were supported on 22.04
[02:50] <laird> I hit this error and started wondering if I was doing something wrong - ERROR    Error validating install location: Could not find an installable distribution at URL 'http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jammy/main/installer-amd64/'
[02:50] <laird> rbox - does that make any sense?
[02:51] <rbox> and what used to work
[02:52] <laird> substantially older LTS
[02:52] <rbox> for example...
[02:53] <laird> it's embarrassing but my home lab latest ubuntu preseed was 18
[02:53]  * rbox gives up and goes to do somethign else
[02:53] <laird> i've been working on other distros for a while and coming back to freshen my homelab
[02:54] <laird> trying to figure out what the pattern is today for virt-installing kvm guests with 22.04
[03:54] <josiah> hello
[03:54] <josiah> wazzup
[03:54] <josiah> I am running on a pine A64
[03:54] <josiah> aka a mini computer
[03:54] <josiah> hello
[04:01] <Psil0[m]> Hmm I had one I was using for a pfsense box
[04:01] <Psil0[m]> May format it debating styllllll look
[04:01] <Psil0[m]> Lol
[06:57] <ash_m> I think my problem was installing the google chrome remote desktop app; before removing it I was getting prompted to authorize just logging out
[06:58] <ash_m> both this laptop and my previous one is still experiencing the issue where sometimes my terminal appears to take up the whole screen behind the launcher
[06:58] <ash_m> considering this is persistant across devices, I am surprised no one else experiences such a thing
[06:59] <ash_m> brb
[06:59] <ash_m> seems to be reproducable by closing and opening the laptop
[07:00] <ash_m> guess I'll try backing up my bashrc and see if that does anything
[07:01] <ash_m> trying this again without tmux and bashrc
[07:02] <ash_m> still buggy
[07:02] <ash_m> /quit
[07:03] <ash_m> exit
[07:25] <olspookishmagus> hello, I'm having trouble with using a TP-Link USB-WiFi adapter. The v1 works flawlessly (it has an Atheros chipset) but I want to use a v4 with this box (it has a Realtek chipset). I'm using: ubuntu 22.04 on a 5.19.0-41-generic kernel
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> olspookishmagus: realtek based chipsets are kernel itchy, you might wanna dig into your logs to see whats going on
[07:27] <olspookishmagus> inserting the v4 while watching the syslog, I think it doesn't even get recognized
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> olspookishmagus: journalctl -f and plug your dongle, then !paste us the results with the output plz
[07:27] <olspookishmagus> ok
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> olspookishmagus: here's a few tp-link bugs on ubuntu you might wanna check too; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bugs?field.searchtext=tp-link&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package=
[07:38] <ash_m> this is the problem I was talking about: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1433479/maximized-windows-become-maximized-behind-launcher
[07:43] <ice9> on my laptop 11th gen, can't load gnome-shell if using kernel 6.2.0, the latest kernel that works is 5.19.0; any idea?
[08:43] <cbreak> finally switched from snap firefox to mozilla ppa firefox, and hoping they release the new thunderbird soon too
[08:54] <nikolam> Hello. Ok, now it is a major new bug that appears in 22.04 Xubuntu. I can't select folder for an app settings when requested. I select a folder but app does not get the info of an folder I selected..
[08:54] <nikolam> Happened in qbittorrent as I remember and now in Steam..
[08:55] <nikolam> Used to work in 22.04 before..
[08:58] <ice9> when upgrading ubuntu server from the cli, how to know if a restart is needed?
[08:58] <jallah> hello everyone
[08:59] <guiverc> ice9, I'd likely go by what packages were upgraded (ie. I read them before I type in the Y/yes proceed)
[09:11] <cbreak> ice9: it should tell you
[09:12] <cbreak> ice9: take a look at /etc/update-motd.d/98-reboot-required
[09:13] <ice9> thanks
[09:14] <ice9> using nvidia's prop driver takes a long time to load the desktop after login in gdm, any idea? while using nouveau, it loads instantly
[09:51] <elias_a> VLC is not able to stream to chromacast in 22.04.2. VLC sees chromacast as a rendering device in my local network. Streaming from Chromium works. Any ideas how to get VLC to work again?
[10:58] <nayeon> yo
[11:01] <brkcore> where wget saves the deb files by default, ubuntu?
[11:02] <brkcore> home directory right?
[11:02] <thrice>  /var/cache/apt/archives/ ?
[11:03] <oerheks> in your ~/
[11:03] <brkcore> ah right
[11:03] <brkcore> thanks man
[11:03] <thrice> unless you mean calling wget yourself, then it will go to the current directory
[11:06] <Guest19> Can someone help me fix ubuntu boot issue?
[11:06] <Guest19> It sometimes gets stuck on boot splash
[11:07] <oerheks> !bootrepair
[11:07] <Guest19> I have the Nvidia proprietary driver install
[11:07] <oerheks> ' sometimes'  is weird.
[11:07] <Guest19> yes i think so too
[11:08] <EriC^^> Guest19: look at /var/log/syslog to see what's happening
[11:08] <Guest19> if it gets stuck and reboot it it works after 2-4 reboots
[11:08] <Guest19> ok i will look
[11:10] <thrice> does it finish if you let it sit for awhile (2 minutes or so?)
[11:10] <Guest19> should i grep something specific or would you like to see the whole thing
[11:10] <Guest19> no it doesnt
[11:13] <Guest19> I wil pastebin everything
[11:21] <Guest19> The file is really big
[11:37] <Guest19> there is no pastebin that accepts it it is 2 mb or 12 mb for everything
[11:38] <thrice> http://ix.io/  ?
[11:38] <ioria> split
[11:39] <Guest19> how did you do that?
[11:39] <Guest19> I just pasted that are you a mod there?
[11:39] <thrice> ?
[11:39] <pickanick> Which is the "latest version" : "# An OpenSSL vulnerability has recently been fixed with USN-6188-1 & 6119-1:  # CVE-2023-2650: possible DoS translating ASN.1 object identifiers.  # Ensure you have updated the package to its latest version."
[11:39] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue summary: Processing some specially crafted ASN.1 object identifiers or data containing them may be very slow. Impact summary: Applications that use OBJ_obj2txt() directly, or use any of the OpenSSL subsystems OCSP, PKCS7/SMIME, CMS, CMP/CRMF or TS with no message size limit may experience notable to very long delays when processing those messages, which may lead to a D... <https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2023-2650>
[11:41] <Guest19> https://privatebin.at/?843a747db067eb13#6bUn69eXLvgfZXdzp2LSvRBwgYMiLmXotUAcDCveMKD3
[11:41] <Guest19> It wil take a minute to load if you click it
[11:48] <ravage> pickanick: the version you get with your regular updates
[11:51] <Guest19> Was anyone able to look at it?
[11:51] <Guest19> or should i try to make it smaller
[11:53] <ioria> Guest19, it loads fine
[11:53] <Guest19> ok :D
[11:53] <ioria> Guest19, a bit huge, yes ... how many times did you reboot ?
[11:54] <Guest19> today only 2
[11:54] <ioria> Guest19, fully updated ? sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[11:54] <Guest19> i found out that if it gets stuck and i hold power(force shutdown) it works the next boot
[11:55] <Guest19> i think it puts something to default
[11:55] <Guest19> if i do upgrade it goes of lts to Ubuntu 23.04?
[11:56] <ioria> Guest19, nope, just run the command and press 'N' (in case you don't want it)
[11:56] <Guest19> i installed timeshift will i able to revert with that if something goes wrong?
[11:56] <ioria> i don't useit... idk
[11:57] <Guest19> i have never done an upgrade that went well on linux so
[11:57] <Guest19> maybe because i use none standard apps?
[11:57] <ioria> probably
[11:58] <Guest19> its not like super weird i still use apt install but somehow i always get more issues
[11:58] <Guest19> I will try to look it up
[12:01] <Guest19> people online said it is hit and miss on a restore
[12:01] <Guest19> It is probably best if i figure out the cause before attemting the upgrade
[12:02] <Guest19> Did you see anything weird in the log? so i can do more research i have no idea what to look for
[12:02] <ioria> Guest19, what's the problem you 're having ?
[12:03] <Guest19> Ubuntu gets stuck on the ubuntu load screen
[12:03] <Guest19> if i reboot it a few time it goes to the login screen
[12:03] <ioria> Guest19, have you tried to boot in Recovery mode ?
[12:04] <Guest19> I just have to reboot it a few times and it works perfectly after i reach the login screen
[12:04] <Guest19> so the issue is a weird one for me
[12:05] <Guest19> i use the nvidia proprietary driver
[12:05] <Guest19> I read nomodeet is onlu for noveau driver
[12:05] <Guest19> nomodeset
[12:06] <ioria> Guest19, yes, i see it;nope , nomodeset is generally used
[12:06] <Guest19> only
[12:06] <ioria> Guest19, so the the kernel will load only the essential modules
[12:07] <Guest19> so i should add nomodeset to grub even if i have proprietary driver, is what you mean right?
[12:07] <Guest19> and what did you see?
[12:08] <ioria> Guest19, that you use 530 ver
[12:08] <Guest19> oh of the nvidia driver yes i am
[12:09] <Guest19> there was a newer one i think but that one was no gud for me
[12:09] <ioria> Guest19,  Unable to read EDID for display device DP-0
[12:09] <Guest19> wow you are so fast on what line is that?
[12:10] <Guest19> 2278
[12:10] <Guest19> i think i read about edid before
[12:10] <Guest19> that has to do with lightdm?
[12:11] <ioria> Guest19,  it's just a warning, btw
[12:11] <pickanick> @ravage for openssl, reboot necessary or no?  service restart or no?
[12:13] <ioria> Guest19, lightdm ?  what flavor are you using ?
[12:13] <Guest19> I think it is normal
[12:13] <ioria> Guest19, i doubt it; default ubuntu uses gdm3
[12:13] <Guest19> i just dnwlouaded ubuntu no kubuntu xubuntu etc
[12:14] <ioria> Guest19, systemctl status gdm3
[12:14] <Guest19> downloaded not*
[12:14] <Guest19> ok
[12:14] <ApostleInTriumph> Hello. I'm unable to start my laptop. it gets stuck at "loading initial ramdisk..." I think this answer might be relevant: https://askubuntu.com/a/1332899 . however, it doesn't say "how" to edit. can someone please help me figure it out?
[12:16] <Guest19> you can edit kernel boot paremeters in grub menu
[12:17] <Guest19> ApostleInTriumph
[12:17] <oerheks> !grub
[12:18] <Guest19> ApostleInTriumph your issues may be simular to mine
[12:19] <Guest19> but i dont think mine gets stuck on it initramdisk
[12:24] <ApostleInTriumph> Guest19 do you know how to edit `/etc/default/grub` ?
[12:24] <Guest19> yes
[12:25] <Guest19> you can type sudo nano /etc/default.grub
[12:25] <Guest19> you can type sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[12:26] <ApostleInTriumph> Guest19: from where?
[12:27] <Guest19> a terminal
[12:27] <ApostleInTriumph> I press "e" and then go to terminal
[12:27] <ApostleInTriumph> from there?
[12:27] <Guest19> if you are talking about during boot
[12:27] <ApostleInTriumph> yes
[12:27] <Guest19> you can but that is for one time only
[12:28] <Guest19> e is to edit current boots kernel parameters
[12:28] <ApostleInTriumph> yes but I would need to get my system to start in the first place
[12:28] <Guest19> ah ok
[12:29] <ApostleInTriumph> after I press "e" I pressed F2 and got into ">grub" window
[12:29] <Guest19> e is not really terminal it is for current boot kernel parameters
[12:29] <ApostleInTriumph> from there, my system couldn't find "vi" or "nano"
[12:30] <Guest19> then nothing must be loaded
[12:30] <Guest19> you may not have filesystem acces yet somene better suited may need to help here
[12:31] <ApostleInTriumph> ah, but only thing I can access is a page with options "Ubuntu" , "Advanced Options for ubuntu" ...
[12:31] <Guest19> maybe you can post an photo?
[12:32] <Guest19> https://postimages.org/
[12:34] <Guest19> in advanced options there should be recovery options to try do they not work either?
[12:35] <ApostleInTriumph> https://postimg.cc/gnYRpTQJ/7f17889a
[12:35] <ApostleInTriumph> recovery mode also gets stuck
[12:35] <ApostleInTriumph> the image is that of the options i can see
[12:37] <Guest19> recovery mode should drop yu to terminal i think , if it gets stuck do you see any errors?
[12:37] <ApostleInTriumph> no there are no errors
[12:37] <ApostleInTriumph> it just says "loading initial ramdisk..."
[12:37] <ApostleInTriumph> and stays like this for an hour or so
[12:37] <ApostleInTriumph> as long as I leave it undisturbed
[12:38] <Guest19> Ok then i am not sure what to do right now either
[12:39] <Guest19> your issue may be going deeper than mine
[12:39] <Guest19> What did you do before it got stuck like that?
[12:40] <ApostleInTriumph> only thing I can recollect is, that my laptop was terribly overheated when i put it in my bag
[12:40] <ApostleInTriumph> I don't recall any program running at that time
[12:40] <ApostleInTriumph> i simply closed the lid and put it
[12:40] <ApostleInTriumph> It was boiling hot when I took it out. However, I ran hardware diagnostics that were suggested by Dell. None of them failed
[12:53] <Guest19> did the include an harddrive test?
[12:53] <Guest19> test*
[12:54] <Guest19> maybe it only tested cpu ram
[12:57] <ApostleInTriumph> hmm i'm not sure, yes, that could be possible
[12:58] <Guest19> maybe try to see if the disk works in another system(depending on how hard it is to remove)
[12:59] <Guest19> oh wait
[12:59] <Guest19> the disk would not drop you to grub menu if the dis stopped working lol
[13:03] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:03] <Guest19> ioria https://privatebin.at/?a33ed0e5aaa5eec9#AaKmCXTAH5UkXuAf5MCMguBd4ShedAFcih4MUSQmwsPn
[13:04] <Guest19> also if i enable nomodeset during boot it gets stuck every time
[13:31] <Guest19> nomeset makes to worse for me. There were many places that recommended it >.<
[13:31] <Guest19> nomodeset*
[13:42] <webchat57> hi
[13:43] <Guest19> i see "proc_thermal_pci 0000:00:04.0: error: proc_thermal_add, will continue" before  it freezes i'm not sure what it means
[13:46] <webchat57> hi
[13:49] <Guest19> Hello webchat57
[13:53] <webchat465> hello
[14:41] <ice9> how to use Wayland with Nvidia's prop driver?
[14:50] <ice9> I implemented this https://askubuntu.com/questions/1403854/cant-use-wayland-with-nvidia-510-drivers-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts but still using x11
[15:02] <jhutchins> ice9: What features does wayland have that you want or need?
[15:03] <ice9> jhutchins, guestures and it's more secure than x11 by design
[15:07] <olspookishmagus> is there a counter about systems broken by "unattended-upgrades"? if yes, increase it by 1
[15:08] <olspookishmagus> I'm on a remote location and seems like my troubles with that system NOT seeing TP-Link WN-722N v4 (which it COULD use it before leaving from where I set it up) was about something that had to do with unattended-upgrades
[15:09] <olspookishmagus> to make matters worse now I see no network interfaces except loopback, and I'm pretty sure that some stopped "unattended-upgrade" is the culprit
[15:10] <olspookishmagus> anyway, I'll try chroot-ing into that box and seeing if I can save that installation altough I fear that reinstalling might be my best option even though if that installation messes with "/home" that would mean a lot more work for me
[15:22] <olspookishmagus> for all its worth this is the controller that can't be seen:
[15:22] <olspookishmagus> 00:0f.0 Ethernet controller: NVIDIA Corporation MCP73 Ethernet (rev a2)
[15:24] <jhutchins> olspookishmagus: It's possible you have a hardware failure.
[15:27] <olspookishmagus> jhutchins: how to rule this out? I mean this system's ethernet controller was working fine, until as it seems, I've interrupted some "unattended-upgrade" procedure and now I only see "lo" in "ip link show"
[15:39] <olspookishmagus> ok, maybe it's better to go for the reinstallation method
[15:40] <olspookishmagus> is there a way to tell ubuntu to NOT to touch the /home partition?
[15:40] <olspookishmagus> hmmm... I'd better check this is on a separate partition first
[15:40] <olspookishmagus> rpool/USERDATA/acerveritonx270_8yoksa              146G   296G      146G  /home/acerveritonx270
[15:42] <olspookishmagus> this is my first ever zfs installation
[15:42] <olspookishmagus> I've also tried creating a USB bootable media using unetbootin with no success, what is the recommended way to make a bootable USB out of an .iso?
[15:44] <ravage> Balea etcher
[15:44] <ravage> And I would not go for ZFS on the desktop again
[15:44] <ravage> It's very poorly maintained
[15:45] <ravage> And that's an understatement
[15:49] <olspookishmagus> then maybe it would be best to get that box back with me where I'll do a reinstallation and use ext4 like I normally do
[15:54] <olspookishmagus> I read something about a "Startup Disk Creator" that's supposed to be available on my system but it's not
[15:54] <olspookishmagus> I'm on xubuntu 22.04 btw
[15:55] <ravage> that is only available on Ubuntu
[15:56] <olspookishmagus> ok
[15:56] <ravage> https://github.com/balena-io/etcher/releases/download/v1.18.11/balena-etcher_1.18.11_amd64.deb
[15:56] <ravage> or https://github.com/balena-io/etcher/releases/download/v1.18.11/balenaEtcher-1.18.11-x64.AppImage
[15:57] <ravage> maybe the appimage is the best choice
[16:04] <Elliria> It looks like the usb-creator-common package will give you the Startup Disk Creator, olspookishmagus.
[17:20] <ice9> I'm using Nvidia's prop driver and getting: https://bpa.st/L3AQ
[17:51] <jhutchins> ravage: xubuntu is just ubuntu with xfce instead of gnome, all of the applications re cross-compatible (unless they're gnome specific).
[17:54] <jhutchins> !info usb-creator-gtk
[17:55] <jhutchins> olspookishmagus: apt install usb-creator-gtk
[17:55] <jhutchins> olspookishmagus: It's not installed by default.
[19:20] <tripstah> can anyone help with the purple-facebook plugin for pidgin? jgeboski's repository doesn't have it anymore and i can't compile it either. https://jgeboski.github.io/#package-repositories
[19:20] <tripstah> it adds the facebook messenger to pidgin
[19:27] <oerheks> !build
[19:27] <oerheks> install build essentials, build the source, and read errors carefull, it gives a clue what -dev package is missing
[19:28] <oerheks> build help https://github.com/dequis/purple-facebook/wiki/Building-on-*NIX
[19:29] <oerheks> choose From the Git Repository, i guess
[19:29] <oerheks> last commit 2021, ... good luck!
[19:53] <nshirelaptop> having some trouble with bluetooth, nothing seems to hold connection. I'll toggle the switch on the bluetoothsettings menu, it will give the rotating "working" icon, then it will just go back to disconnected
[19:53] <nshirelaptop> anyone have any recommendations to figure this out?
[19:54] <nshirelaptop> bluetoothctl is showing rssis around -105 for everything, isn't that pretty low?
[19:55] <oerheks> i use bluez to scan, connect, set trusted
[19:55] <oerheks> after that, standard bt tool works fine
[19:58] <nshirelaptop> I got Connection Failed: br-connection-page-timeout
[19:59] <nshirelaptop> I think this is blueman
[20:18] <tripstah> oerheks: compiled succesfully, had a problem logging to facebook (ERROR_QUEUE_UNDERFLOW), hex edited libfacebook.so, success, it now seems to work!!
[20:27] <oerheks> yay, have fun!
[20:34] <ravage> i would still suggest any other way to chat :D
[20:35] <tripstah> i'm looking for a nicer client than pidgin! it's quite good tho.
[20:36] <ravage> i mean the faceboot part
[20:36] <ravage> *book
[20:37] <tripstah> ahh ok
[20:38] <cbreak> I've switched to IRSSI, it's nice
[20:39] <cbreak> (for irc though, not the face thingie)
[20:40] <tripstah> i'm a gui guy, i use hexchat.
[20:41] <cbreak> I was using Konversation before, it was ok. Tried hexchat too, it was also okish...
[20:41] <tripstah> ircii with a purepak's good tho!
[20:41] <cbreak> none of the clients I've found on linux were as nice looking as what I had on MacOS, but at least IRSSI is customizable :)
[20:41] <tripstah> amirc on amiga is my favorite client!
[20:42] <cbreak> (Used to use Textual over there)
[21:23] <Guest19> Can someone help me with my boot issue, i've been looking the whole day without a solution
[21:23] <Guest19> Ubuntu keep getting stuck right before login screen if i reboot i sometimes go to login screen and then works fine
[21:24] <Guest19> but if i start the laptop the next day it will get stuck on the loading screen again
[21:25] <thrice> somehow, you need to find what it's gettings tuck on
[21:25] <Guest19> It is weird that it sometimes works and sometimes doesnt
[21:25] <thrice> can you change tty when it's stuck (ctl+alt+f2) ?
[21:25] <Guest19> no i cant
[21:26] <Guest19> if i press power button it gets seems like it gets unstuck and shutdown with some shutdown text
[21:27] <Guest19> which is too fast for me to see
[21:27] <thrice> I would disable the boot splash, if you have it, and enable verbose output during the boot
[21:28] <Guest19> ok i will look how to do that
[21:28] <Guest19> i thought it was hold shift
[21:29] <thrice> at the grub screen, I think you push "e" to edit (?).  Or, if you're booted to the system, edit /etc/default/grub, remove things like "splash," "quiet" from the options, update-grub, and reboot
[21:30] <Guest19> i have quit splash in boot options
[21:30] <thrice> I'd remove both, that should give you a text, verbose output.  Maybe when it's "stuck" you can see what it's doing
[21:31] <Guest19> ok
[21:41] <Guest19> ok it failes to loadsave nvidia brightnes backlight thing
[21:43] <Guest19> but in the log it says it finishes
[21:43] <Guest19> should it not say error?
[21:44] <Guest19> "Ubuntu_Laptop systemd-backlight[1763]: nvidia_0: Failed to write system 'brightness' attribute: Invalid argument"
[21:44] <Guest19> Is this a bug or do i have to change a setting?
[21:45] <Guest19> because it does suceed sometimes
[22:06] <lord_daemon> what linux software can i use to manage my switches: cisco, dell, hp. I used one from HP but I forgot the name. I just want to build the topology and know when a switch is down (it will turn red). this software was good because it could specify the UPLINK ports
[22:07] <WaV> Not sure, but a google search of your criteria mentions NetXMS?
[22:08] <olspookishmagus> ok, I've somehow managed to have this system back up and working somehow
[22:08] <olspookishmagus> I looked into /var/log/apt/hist* logs and also /var/log/unattended-upgrades
[22:09] <olspookishmagus> and I've concluded this messup was all because of upgrading to 5.19.0-40-generic
[22:10] <olspookishmagus> having a look at some "virtual packages" there is no way I could go to 5.19.0-41-generic
[22:13] <monty_hall> why is ubuntu app/software center missing so many packages?  Why not just use synaptic?  All I've ever used is apt/dpkg and synaptic for browsing.  The ubuntu app/software center is missing a ton of packages.  Power line fonts?  Available in synaptic not available in ubuntu software/app center.  What's the point of it?
[22:16] <Unit193> I think the software center really only shows desktop applications, those shipping metainfo files.
[22:17] <leftyfb> Unit193: it actually has quite a lot of CLI apps as well
[22:18] <Unit193> leftyfb: I presume those CLI applications ship metainfo files?  Or at the very least, desktop files would be required.
[22:18] <leftyfb> not sure
[22:19] <Unit193> Hmm... Neither alpine nor irssi have desktop files, can you see those?
[22:19] <leftyfb> vim and nmap are a couple
[22:19] <leftyfb> also links
[22:19] <leftyfb> irssi shows up
[22:19] <leftyfb> alpine does not
[22:19] <leftyfb> nano does though
[22:21] <Unit193> Alpine is in universe and irssi main, but nmap is in universe too!  OK, no freaking clue then.  I thought the software center was relying on metainfo (which falls back to desktop files) but it would appear not...
[22:21] <Unit193> leftyfb: Just to confirm, irssi and nmap weren't already installed right?
[22:22] <leftyfb> nmap is(obviously), irssi is not
[22:24] <topcat001> Guest19: It seems like a race condition with loading the nvidia drivers. Did you try `update-initramfs -u` after a successful boot to ensure the modules are included there correctly for early loading? I'm guessing of course.
[22:25] <Guest19> not
[22:25] <Guest19> Can you explain that further?
[22:26] <Guest19> does it save a start order?
[22:27] <Guest19> does the modify the kernel?
[22:27] <topcat001> In a typical ubuntu install, the nvidia drivers are automatically added to the initramfs, which loads (early userspace) before the root filesystem's init (late userspace).
[22:27] <Guest19> that
[22:28] <Guest19> ok i think i follow
[22:28] <topcat001> this is desirable, because modern systems boot so fast that the driver is not initialised fully before its users/clients try to use it.
[22:29] <Guest19> but in my case the load is slightly delayed causng out of sync loading?
[22:29] <topcat001> However, due to an update quirk, or another reason, it might not be working for you. The driver will still load later, and sometimes will finish initialising in time, but sometimes not.
[22:30] <olspookishmagus> anyway I now moved into 5.19.0-41-generic and I think everything's working again
[22:30] <topcat001> I'm only guessing, but if this happens you will get random failures. In other words, a race condition.
[22:30] <topcat001> Manually regenerating the initramfs might set things right.
[22:31] <Guest19> ok but it doesnt change the kernel right?
[22:31] <topcat001> No, only the initramfs
[22:31] <Guest19> ok i will try your sugeston
[22:32] <Guest19> if it doesnt work or makes things worse i can rever it with timeshift?
[22:32] <topcat001> In any case, it should not break anything.
[22:32] <Guest19> im known to be an edge case :(
[22:33] <topcat001> you can restore the previous initramfs (in /boot)
[22:40] <Guest19> It has not broken anything \~.~/
[22:41] <Guest19> It seems to work but i will have to test over a few days to see how often i have to reboot
[22:41] <Guest19> Thank you for your sugestion topcat001
[22:42] <topcat001> np and good luck!