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[00:58] <sorux> hi
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[03:10] <konrados> I'm lost... exim is an MTA, so it can only **send** emails, right? Then how is this possible, that from one user (konrad) I was able to send a message to another user on the same machine ( echo "test" | mail -s "Ta2" -r konrad@mydomain.pl developer@localhost ) and **then** read this message with the `mail` command, being logged in as a 'developer' user? I thought I need an MDA (like dovecot) for that?
[03:12] <rbox> dovecot is imap
[03:12] <rbox> nothing to do with local mail really
[03:13] <konrados> rbox - But... what program do I owe the fact that the email sent by Exim ended up in /var/mail/developer (i.e., to the recipient)?
[03:14] <rbox>  exim...
[03:14] <rbox> exim does local mail delivery
[03:15] <konrados> rbox, so exim is both MTA and MDA? Oh... soe exim cannot take care about emails sent from internet, a non-local machine, and that is why I need software like dovecot?
[03:16] <rbox> what?
[03:16] <rbox> dovecot is imap
[03:17] <konrados> I want to send an email from say me@gmail.com to konrad@myownserver.pl - I thought I need to install a program like dovcot on myownserver?
[03:17] <konrados> To be able to do that?
[03:17] <rbox> imap has nothing to do with sending email
[03:19] <konrados> Yes... so... if I want to send an email from whatever@anydomain.com to konrad@myserver.com - what do I need to have on 'myserver.com'?
[03:19] <rbox> smtp
[03:19] <rbox> like exim
[03:20] <konrados> But I'm trying to send an email *not* from myownserver.com - but e.g. from gmail.com. And I want myserver to be able to *receive* the email.
[03:21] <rbox> to send from gmail to your domainn, you need an mx record on your domain pointing to your smtp server
[03:25] <konrados> That contradicts everything I have learned in the last 3 days... and what chatgpt told me... I need to take some melissa or a stronger calming remedy. Geee
[03:27] <rbox> lol
[03:28] <konrados> robx, but before I'll do it, please tell me - why one of the very first things I need to do after installing DoveCot, is setting 'maildir', like this: `mail_location = maildir:~/Maildir` - if Dovecot is only imap, then why it won't just read messages from /var/mail/$user where exim already puts emails?
[03:29] <rbox> there are 2 types of local email stanrdards
[03:29] <rbox> maildir and mbox
[03:40] <konrados> rbox - Yes, when installing exim I selected mbox, someone suggested me this. And exim stores messages in /var/mail/$USER. So, now, when I'll install dovecot, I'm not sure what I should do. I'm trying to understand this: https://doc.dovecot.org/configuration_manual/mail_location/mbox/ They say in my scenario I should use this: `mail_location = mbox:~/mail:INBOX=/var/mail/%u:INDEX=/var/indexes/%u` - I have so many questions about
[03:40] <konrados> it. The first is - Why does Dovecot need its own directory when it already has a directory created by Exim: /var/mail/$user? Why does it need mbox:~/mail
[03:42] <rbox> i already said
[03:42] <rbox> [08:29:18 PM] <rbox> there are 2 types of local email stanrdards
[03:42] <rbox> [08:29:21 PM] <rbox> maildir and mbox
[03:43] <konrados> So... the only reason is that dovecot does not understand maildir? So, if I changed my mind, and reconfigure exim to keep data as maildir (somewhere), then I could point dovecot to this location?
[03:44] <rbox> maybe
[03:48] <konrados> ok, thanks.
[04:58] <theorem> so it looks like I have a "scsi_eh_3" crewing up a ton of cpu
[04:58] <theorem> and pushing up load average in a weird way
[04:58] <theorem>  00:58:12 up 57 days, 22:16,  8 users,  load average: 43.01, 43.02, 43.01
[04:58] <theorem> ( loadavg should be around 3 ).
[04:58] <theorem> any idea how to kill it ?
[04:58] <theorem> ( without restarting the system or hanging the system ? )
[04:59] <rbox> stop the file io
[04:59] <theorem> ok, it's a hung zfs scrub
[04:59] <theorem> I can't seem to stop it ...
[05:00] <theorem> the zpool command to stop just hangs
[05:00] <rbox> 🎶 scrub is a guy that can't get no love...
[05:00] <rbox> sounds like a reboot
[05:01] <theorem> I don;t have physical access to this machine easily, so if it does not release the drive when a reboot occurs, I can't hard reset it
[05:01] <theorem> I do have an ILO (BMC) console on it, but it won;t let me in :(
[05:01] <rbox> remote machines without out of band control is an awful set up
[05:01] <theorem> yes, OOB is setup.
[05:02] <theorem> but it's failing in a weird way -- not letting me login to the out of band console
[05:02] <theorem> complaining of a bad password which .. was correct ..
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[06:59] <TheMadDrizzle> Can't really find an approporiate place to ask, but I'm using Ubuntu 23.04 and am having problems running Assetto Corsa Competizione through Proton on Steam.  The app just hangs when it's trying to launch.
[07:01] <TheMadDrizzle> Currently installing the normal Wine/Tricks to see if I can get the game to launch like that.
[08:11] <ice9> what does this service do nvidia-persistenced.service ?
[08:12] <weedmic> ice9: perhaps read this - https://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/396.51/README/nvidia-persistenced.html
[08:15] <ice9> weedmic, well this service fails to shutdown EVERY reboot (even on fresh installations) so I had to disable it and I'm not seeing any difference
[08:27] <weedmic> I did not understand the term "tear down" and since it is sunday, had no one to ask.  it is some english-ism that is beyond me.  perhaps it meant analysis (which was my guess), in which case, it wouldn't matter (be noticeable) if running or not.
[09:08] <bobdobbs> I'm using ubuntu 22.04. I'd like to configure sharing between this ubuntu machine and the mac machine sitting on my desk. Using the ubuntu desktop shell, I've right-clicked on a folder and set up it's sharing properties. So now my mac can read that folder and copy from it. But the mac can't write to it, not matter how I configure the folder.
[09:08] <bobdobbs> So at the moment I'm trying to understand how that filesharing works.
[09:08] <bobdobbs> It is using samba?
[09:19] <bobdobbs> back soon. rebooting...
[09:27] <bobdobbs> Is there a gui for samba?
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> !samba | bobdobbs
[09:38] <ubottu> bobdobbs: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/samba-introduction
[09:59] <weedmic> bobdobbs: if it were me, I'd decide which machine will host the files, setup that machine with ssh, and let the other machine connect via ssh, sue fish inside dolphin for the filemanager access (or the equivalent for finder on the mac).  the user would never know, just think the files were another directory.  no dealing with samba, etc.
[10:01] <bobdobbs> hai weedmic
[10:03] <bobdobbs> weedmic: I want my ubuntu workstation to host the files. I'd like to be able to read and write to the folder on the ubuntu machine from a mac.
[10:03] <bobdobbs> I've never figured out how to get samba working - or to get it to stay working. I'd bin it if I could.
[10:04] <bobdobbs> My preference is to use mac's finder to access the ubuntu folder. Sometimes I can do that with ubuntu's file sharing. But sometimes the shared folder simply can't be found. And I've never been able to get the mac to write to it.
[10:17] <weedmic> I should not use samba - as stated I'd add an account for the mac user on the ubuntu, add him to ssh, setup ssh, setup some shared location for files, add him as a member, and on the mac connect via ssh.  find out the equivalent for mac of fish protocol for dolphin and use that format in finder.  if you really want to use samba, you need to find someone with more patience than I.
[10:19] <bobdobbs> oh believe me... I'm happy to use any alternative to samba
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[10:43] <Apachez> bobdobbs: may I suggest "Gigolo" and scp or sftp then? :)
[11:00] <bobdobbs> Apachez: what is Gigalo?
[11:01] <bobdobbs> Apachez: ah, found it
[11:05] <Apachez> a male prostitute
[11:06] <Apachez> but in this case a great software that can map virtually any filesharing and have that to show up as a particular mount point in your linux box
[11:06] <Apachez> frontend to manage connections to remote filesystems using GIO/GVfs
[11:07] <Apachez> it can for example map locally /mnt/server1 so that uses sftp towards server1
[11:07] <Apachez> or http, or https, or sftp, or scp, or ftps or webdav or... etc
[11:36] <webchat82> what's a 'transitional package'? Looking for fglkrx and apt is finding only fglrx-pxpress and telling me that its a 'transitional package for ubuntu-drivers-common'
[11:43] <thrice> webchat82: https://wiki.debian.org/PackageTransition
[11:44] <thrice> webchat82: a few things, but they sort of help with providing clean upgrades
[11:47] <webchat82> thrice thank for the link. So does fglrx-pxpress replace fglrx? Or is it a completely different package and should i assume fglrx to no longer be available?
[11:48] <thrice> sorry, I'm not sure about that
[11:48] <thrice> it usually means there was just a renaming
[11:49] <thrice> But i'm not up to speed on fglrx
[11:49] <webchat82> thrice ok, no worries. I am trying to figure out why my radeon driver does not work. Got this on start-up: [5921254] [drm:radeon_init [radeon]] *ERROR* No UMS support in radeon module!
[11:50] <webchat82> not sure what that means yet either
[11:51] <thrice> are you sure you can't use the open source driver?
[11:52] <webchat82> thrice well looking at lsmod, its trying to use 'radeon' which I think is an O/S driver, but I get that message. There is also amdgpu, but I am not sure how to switch from radeon to amdgpu
[11:53] <webchat82> trying to figure it out bit by bit
[11:54] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:36] <Metamorphosis> Hello everyone. I have this machine Lenovo G5070, Intel Core i5-4210U (170 GHz 1600MHz, 3MB), 6 GB DDR3L RAM, AMD Radeon R5 M230 2GB, 1 TB 5400rpm HDD, 15.6" HD (1366 x 768) display, Kubuntu 22.04 (dual boot with Windows). It runs very slow. It's terrible. I can't really upgrade to SSD due to budget limits (student here). I wonder if upgrading from 6 gb ram to 8 gb can make a difference.
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[12:52] <dickhead> goodbye
[13:04] <ravage> Metamorphosis: i dont think a 250GB SSD is more expensive than the RAM upgrade. and it will improve the performance a lot more
[13:05] <ravage> they start at about 20 dollars or so these days
[13:05] <apatters> A ram upgrade might make a minor difference, but those are pretty old specs. Check out Lubuntu or Xubuntu - they both have lower system requirements than Kubuntu and would run a lot faster on that machine.
[13:06] <ravage> it also depends what is slow
[13:06] <ravage> if only startup and mayste starting applications is slow than the HDD may be the problem
[13:06] <ravage> if the whole system behaves slow see apatters
[13:23] <guiverc>  Metamorphosis, just FYI & largely opinion, but match your desktop (esp. the toolkit/libraries it uses) with your apps for best performance, ie. have them share resources..  Kubuntu uses KDE Plasma which is a Qt5 desktop & needs KF5; LXQt is also a Qt5 desktop (but doesn't require KF5), where as Xubuntu is GTK thus will perform best where you're using GTK3/4 apps  (LXDE performs best with GTK2 apps though few of them still exist)... if you ignore
[13:23] <guiverc> what toolkits/libs your apps/DE use you'll of course need more ram....
[13:33] <Guest78> hey, 1st time user here, can anyone help me with setting up a GUI?
[13:33] <Guest78> i followed an online guide, but it doesn't seem to work
[13:33] <thrice> you mean you installed ubuntu, and you don't see a GUI?
[13:34] <Guest78> This is about a VPS server I rented today btw
[13:34] <Guest78> thrice: the VPS came pre-installed with Ubuntu, as far as I understand it
[13:34] <Guest78> Then I entered some commands in the "shell" (?) but contrary to what the guide I followed promised, the GUI won't start
[13:35] <thrice> you are trying to removely start a graphical session?
[13:35] <Guest78> yes!
[13:35] <thrice> er, why?
[13:35] <Guest58> start the x server
[13:35] <Guest58> to get graphics
[13:35] <Guest78> this is a VPS server I rented. I want to install some software on it, but I need a GUI for that
[13:36] <Guest78> Guest58: sry, I don't know what that is. I know nothing about Linux/Ubuntu. I've been using Windows all my life
[13:37] <ravage> Guest78: you dont need a GUI do install software
[13:37] <Guest78> here are the commands I used in succession: "sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade", "sudo apt install slim", "sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop" and "sudo reboot"
[13:37] <Guest58> so the component of linux responsible for graphics is a software called "X server", there is also the "window manager" which comes as part of the "desktop environment"
[13:38] <ravage> Guest78: https://ubuntu.com/server/docs
[13:39] <Guest78> what i'm asking I guess is: according to the support hotline employee setting up a GUI on the VPS server is trivial and that there's lots of documentation online. yet it didn't seem to work. does anyone know what I did wrong? I posted the commands I used earlier.
[13:40] <guiverc> Guest78,  you didn't say what Ubuntu product, Ubuntu Core for example is not intended to be used with a GUI...  If you specify what Ubuntu product people may better help you
[13:40] <Guest78> oh, i see
[13:40] <Guest78>     Ubuntu 22.04
[13:41] <guiverc> Ubuntu Server can be turned into a desktop system rather easily; Ubuntu Core is a reduced sized Ubuntu Server product without that capacity (but smaller means lighter, faster to spin up etc)
[13:41] <guiverc> Ubuntu 22.04 can be server or desktop.   You can add desktop to that (though desktop requires more resources, more disk, ram etc.. than the server requires)
[13:42] <Guest78> i definitely need the desktop
[13:44] <guiverc> the easiest way is `sudo apt update` to update software lists (let your machine know what software packages exist, then `sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop` to install the default Ubuntu Desktop system to convert your system to a desktop one.  The default though is not the lightest & has more ram/resource requirements than some lighter desktops
[13:45] <guiverc> Alternatives maybe what Ubuntu calls flavors, but they're found in 'universe' repsitory (not enabled by default for Ubuntu Server/Desktop installs) so you need to enable that repository, then you can add a flavor desktop instead
[13:46] <Guest78> ok it seems i totally broke it now. this is horrible
[13:46] <guiverc> 'universe' is community sourced packages... they have  lower 'security' threshold (Ubuntu Security doesn't check them) thus you why you need to 'enable' it yourself... Ubuntu Pro can get security for universe (optional)
[13:47]  * guiverc thinks most of us learn best by breaking things... esp. in the fixng of them !
[13:51] <Guest78> guiverc: i already tried installing a GUI with the command you posted, but after rebooting it just showed the shell again
[13:51] <Guest78> I also installed "slim" btw, because that's what the guide told me to do
[13:51] <Guest78> right now I'm restarting the server apparently, but it's restarting for 5 minutes already
[13:53] <guiverc> if your machine doesn't have the GPU requirements for GNOME desktop, the GUI won't likely start thus being stuck with a textual/server system is to be expected.. Does your machine meet the minimum requirements for Ubuntu Desktop (GNOME)?  Did you check
[13:53] <guiverc> ?
[13:53]  * guiverc is heading to bed; almost midnight local time....
[13:53] <thrice> you're trying to do this remotely, I don't think it's quite as simple as starting the gui
[13:55] <Guest78> guiverc: well all i can say is that the hotline support person told me it was possible. the machine specs are:     VPS XS
[13:55] <Guest78> CPU:    1 vCore, RAM:    1 GB, Disk:    10 GB SSD
[13:55]  * guiverc thinks thrice made a great point... depends on what console etc. you're using to access; or just simple `ssh` in will get text only by default
[13:56] <ravage> 1GB of RAM is not enough for any desktop
[13:56] <ravage> learn how to use the console
[13:57] <guiverc> 4GB is the recommended minimum for GNOME; 25GB disk space recommended minimum for Ubuntu Desktop of 17.10 or later (it'll install/run in less,  but 'run' maybe better described as 'walk' with less depending on how used).
[13:57] <ravage> even the 10GB disk would be almost full after any installation of a desktop. gnome wont even fit
[13:57] <Guest78> well, apparently the hotline person lied to me then
[13:57] <Guest78> that's a bummer
[13:58] <thrice> what apps do you need?
[13:58] <ravage> in general check out virtualbox if your desktop is on windows
[13:58] <ravage> install Ubuntu on there. learn how to use it. then put a server on the internet
[13:58] <guiverc> read the minimum suggested requiremetns on the Ubuntu site (wiki/etc), sorry I closed my browsers already so can't provide links
[13:59]  * guiverc likes that idea ravage ; Guest78 ^
[13:59] <Guest78> guiverc: seems your're right. ubuntu GUI won't run on my machine
[14:00] <Guest78> ravage: i'll check it out, thanks
[14:02] <guiverc> Guest78, I mentiond there are lighter desktops... GNOME is about the heaviest... (ie. most full-featured.. great if using touch etc... features you'll never use/need)
[14:02] <ravage> it would also be helpful to know what you really want to do with that VPS
[14:03] <Guest78> guiverc: can you point me to one?
[14:03] <ravage> the desktop installation will not solve the fact that for a server you will always need console commands
[14:04] <guiverc> if using GTK3/4 apps you'll find Xfce or Xubuntu the lightest flavor, if using Qt5 apps then Lubuntu and LXQt is lighter still...but lighter WM options exist than those too (lighter means fewer features... LXDE is light & a full desktop but with almost no GTK2 apps anymore the lightness is mostly pointless there)
[14:04] <Guest78> okie
[14:05] <guiverc> text terminal is far lighter than any GUI !   why it was king in the 60s, 70s, even early 80s... (when resources were really small!)
[14:06] <ravage> even windows comes without windows thsese days if you like. console is still great.
[14:06] <ravage> *these
[14:11] <jhutchins> A GUI on a publicly exposed server is a significant security risk.
[14:16] <Guest78> jhutchins: that may be, but without GUI this server is worthless to me
[14:17] <Guest78> i've decided to cancel my order anyway, this is never going to work
[14:17] <Guest78> thx everyone for the help
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[14:35] <imi> hi, somehow my motd contains the autogenerated motd twice
[15:18] <user_> google
[15:18] <user_> google chrome
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[15:35] <ccha> hello, is there an option for apt when install package to not enable a service default?
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[16:56] <Guest78> is someone here knowledgeable about debian?
[17:00] <patocan> Guest78, maybe in #debian
[17:01] <Guest78> i tried, it's empty. doesn't matter... i'm uninstalling debian and installing ubuntu now
[17:01] <patocan> in irc.oftc.net
[17:01] <patocan> Guest78, Debian has its channels mainly in the OFTC network
[17:01] <Guest78> i see, dang, well it's too late now
[17:01] <Guest78> but ty
[17:01] <patocan> XD
[17:01] <patocan> ok
[17:08] <Guest78> patocan: can i ask u a q?
[17:09] <patocan> haven't you just?
[17:09] <patocan> :)
[17:10] <Guest78> im trying to paste text into a console, but neither strg+v nor strg+ctrl+v work. any idead what else i could try? im running ubuntu 22.04 on a vps server through a web console btw
[17:15] <jeremy31> ctrl+shift + v
[17:16] <jeremy31> Try right clicking in terminal and see if you get a paste option
[17:17] <patocan> Guest78, what jeremy31's just said. I always use Ctrl+Shift+v to paste to the terminal, although you can do it as well from the context menu (right click)
[17:18] <Guest78> neither option works
[17:18] <patocan> Additionally, you can check the keyboard shortcuts for "copy" and "paste" in the Edit menu from the menu bar of the console
[17:18] <patocan> Then try directly Edit -> paste
[17:19] <jeremy31> Guest78: see if anything works at https://askubuntu.com/questions/944685/pasting-external-text-into-xterm-or-uxterm
[17:19] <Guest78> i dont have any of this. this is some sort of webclient i'm using
[17:20] <Guest78> well okie, its not that important anyway
[17:22] <Guest78> my main issue is, i'm trying to install a piece of software through the ubuntu console for 3 hours now and nothing works. this is my first time using linux so im maximally confused
[17:27] <patocan> you are trying to install software on your Ubuntu system via "some sort of webclient"? Guest78
[17:28] <patocan> are you managing the system remotely by means of SSH o something similar?
[17:30] <Guest78> i dont even know what that means tbhon
[17:31] <Guest78> i rented a VPS server for 1€/month to play around with but now I can't even get the software to run i bought it for
[17:34] <patocan> I think you should check the documentation/help center of your VPS provider then.
[17:35] <Guest78> i doubt they offer help for every kind of ubuntu-question
[17:38] <oerheks> Guest78, we don' t support 'bought software', ask your vendor?
[17:39] <Guest78> what are you talking about, there is no bought software
[17:40] <oerheks> " I can't even get the software to run i bought it for"
[17:40] <Guest78> the software is free, i rented the vps
[17:40] <oerheks> we have no clue what that means
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[17:40] <Guest78> and i can't ask the vps people for detailed help with installing software
[17:41] <Guest78> the server is working, their responsibility ends there
[17:42] <gordonjcp> Guest78: well, unless you actually describe the problem you're having, no-one here can help you
[17:43] <Guest78> ok, so i'm trying to install a piece of windows software through wine, but i get the error: "make sure that your x server is running and that $display is set correctly"
[17:43] <Guest78> i already googled how to fix this, but their suggestions do not work for me
[17:43] <oerheks> !wine
[17:43] <ubottu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu
[17:43] <oerheks> join #winehq for wine help?
[17:44] <Guest78> ok i had no idea that existed
[17:44] <gordonjcp> Guest78: this is unlikely to work, at all
[17:44] <oerheks> :-)
[17:44] <Guest78> gordon: what do u mean?
[17:44] <Guest78> why not?
[17:44] <gordonjcp> unless you are particularly expert, running GUI stuff over a network is not going to work
[17:44] <Guest78> dang
[17:44] <Guest78> well im not
[17:45] <Guest78> ugh im gonna ask winehq anyhow, thanks for input
[17:45] <gordonjcp> in particular, installing Windows software in Wine on a remote server is something I wouldn't really attempt, and I've been doing this sort of stuf for a while now
[17:45] <gordonjcp> Guest78: what are you trying to install, and why?
[17:45] <Guest78> ok
[17:45] <Guest78> guest78: metatrader 4
[17:46] <gordonjcp> (I actually run a bunch of Windows stuff in VMs on a Linux server remotely, but this is Very Difficult To Get Working)
[17:46] <oerheks> https://www.metatrader4.com/en/trading-platform/help/userguide/install_linux ...???
[17:46] <Guest78> yeah this isn't looking good then
[17:46] <Guest78> oerheks: already read and tried this 10 times. doesn't work. error as described above
[17:46] <oerheks> top search google and bing..
[17:47] <oerheks> maybe #wineHQ knows a fix
[17:47] <thrice> (the issue isn't wine, they don't even have X working)
[17:48] <gordonjcp> Guest78: yeah, that's going to be extremely hard to get working
[17:48] <gordonjcp> Guest78: why are you running it on a remote server?
[17:48] <gordonjcp> Guest78: do you know what an X-Y Problem is?
[17:48] <gordonjcp> https://xyproblem.info/
[17:48] <Guest78> i want to put a neural network trading bot on there. it's supposed to run 24/7 so i don't want it on my local machine
[17:48] <Guest78> gordon: no i don't
[17:50] <oerheks> metatrader 4 ;Minimum requirements 8gb	Recommended requirements 16 GB ..
[17:50] <oerheks> oink
[17:50] <Guest78> yeah dont believe this, it runs on far less
[17:51] <Guest78> its a chart issue
[17:52] <Guest78> anyway f*ck this, im just going to buy a second pc
[17:53] <maestronolte> Good choice.
[17:57] <patocan> gordonjcp, what really amazes me of that link you provided, is that someone actually spent money of buying a domain for that XD
[17:58] <PvtJoker> hi. Ubuntu 23.04, installed about a week ago. Ethernet question: does Ubuntu enable QoS on ethernet by default?
[17:59] <gordonjcp> patocan: I have a bunch of domains I bought and have so far done very little with
[17:59] <gordonjcp> PvtJoker: shouldn't do...
[17:59] <PvtJoker> I am not getting the speed I would expect. enp68s0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP group default qlen 1000
[17:59] <gordonjcp> PvtJoker: how are you testing that
[18:00] <PvtJoker> what I'm seeing is via SFTP. I get about 5mB/s per download. I open 10 downloads and each maxes at 5mB/s
[18:01] <oerheks> PvtJoker, maybe that is controlled serverside?
[18:01] <PvtJoker> I was curious because I installed bmon, saw qdisc in the network graph and not sure what that is really
[18:01] <PvtJoker> oerheks could very well be
[18:02] <PvtJoker> I see qdisc, class 1 through 10 in bmon. It appears to be more than a simple Ethernet configuration that I was expecting.
[18:04] <PvtJoker> search says qdisc is a scheduler. is that similar to QoS is what I am wondering?
[18:05] <gordonjcp> PvtJoker: it's more likely that the server is throttling your connections to a particular speed
[18:05] <gordonjcp> PvtJoker: also sftp can be quite slow
[18:05] <PvtJoker> ah that makes sense. thanks!
[18:06] <gordonjcp> patocan: I bought onlyfandans.com ages ago, although it's probably only funny in Scotland
[18:06] <PvtJoker> sftp uses more CPU I am guessing?
[18:06] <gordonjcp> not so much, but if it's not set up just right there's a lot more back-and-forth traffic
[18:07] <ravage> PvtJoker: use iperf3 to test
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[18:43] <bitbinge> I have a systemd unit that limits the speed of the cpu, now I want to remove the fan from the machine and use this unit to scale the cpu down even further to a safe temp.
[18:43] <bitbinge> Currently the unit has both After=multi-user.target and WantedBy=multi-user.target. Should I remove either of these? (from reading the man I get an impression that this shouldn't even work in the first place..)
[18:43] <bitbinge> The other thing I want to know is how much delay after the power button is hit does using either of these directives incur? This is a bloated GNOME workstation. Is using a After=basic.target a better idea if I want to make this run as soon as possible to prevent cpu overheating if boot issues occur?
[18:43] <bitbinge> I assume after basic.target is the earliest sensible moment.
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[18:49] <oerheks> most likely WantedBy=multi-user.target ... https://serverfault.com/questions/683911/use-of-cpuquota-in-systemd
[18:49] <oerheks> but if that goes wrong, do not blame systemd nor ubuntu
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[18:59] <bitbinge> oerheks, you mean that's the earliest sensible? I assume multi-user runs all of its wanteds (simultaneously) as soon as basic.target finishes.
[19:02] <bitbinge> I'll get rid of the After=.
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[20:46] <topcat001> are you planning to use this as a desktop with the cpu locked down to its lowest frequency?
[20:47] <topcat001> also, which cpu?
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