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schopin#startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team15:08
meetingologyMeeting started at 15:08:38 UTC.  The chair is schopin.  Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology15:08
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schopin#topic Lightning rounds15:08
schopin#link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-03-aug-2023/3753415:09
schopinLet's take a few minutes to read each other's status :)15:09
schopinenr0n: re the deb822 migration, doesn't moving stuff from sources.list to ubuntu.sources impact the order of the sources?15:10
enr0nschopin: like order in the file? Or what do you mean?15:10
schopinin the sources.list man page it's stated that "it is important to list sources in order of preference". I'm guessing moving files around will change said order.15:11
enr0nOh, yeah that's addressed in the spec (https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/spec-apt-deb822-sources-by-default/29333).15:11
schopinneat, thanks :)15:12
juliankI'm considering making the order not important15:12
juliankParallelize downloads if multiple mirrors have same file basically15:12
bdrungdidn't we want to have security.ubuntu.com last to prefer pulling stuff from the mirrors instead?15:14
juliankthat's true15:16
juliankBut we can add and use source priorities for that15:16
juliankI guess they're also pin priorities at the same time :D15:17
bdrungjuliank, are source priorities documented somewhere?15:17
juliankThey don't exist yet15:17
juliankThat's why I wrote *add*15:18
bdrungah, okay15:18
juliankBut I admit I messed up the tenses :D15:18
schopinAnything else?15:19
juliankPlease test grub 2.12, I push to mantic release on Monday15:19
schopinAlright, on that note, moving on :)15:19
schopin#topic Release incoming bugs15:20
schopin#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:20
schopinbug 202888815:21
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2028888 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "No web browser installed in the canary image" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202888815:21
schopinThat sounds rather unfortunate!15:21
juliankHmm, should be assigned elsewhere, livecd-rootfs?15:22
juliankthe meta package can't force snaps to be installed15:22
juliankReassign there and tag foundations-todo?15:22
dbungertI don't know if this is a canary issue or a livecd-rootfs issue or an issue with how desktop is restructuring what is part of the default install15:22
juliankit's not a meta package restructuring issue15:23
juliankthe deb for firefox is installed as the output says15:23
juliankbut the snap isn't15:23
juliankOr I guess the snap needs to be seeded too?15:23
juliankThe snap:firefox is in the desktop-minimal seed15:24
juliankBut I think next step is analysing image build logs, so it makes sense to assign to livecd-rootfs as a starting point15:25
schopinSounds good to me, I guess.15:25
julianklemme update the bug and we can move on in parallel15:25
schopinbug 201740115:26
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2017401 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu) "Unexpected / unwanted unattended-upgrades behaviour after kernel upgrade when Livepatch enabled" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201740115:26
schopinto be handled by server, nothing to do for us.15:28
schopin#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ll-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:28
schopinshared custody, but explicitly tagged by Steve for us.15:29
juliankschopin: what bug are you talking about?15:30
schopinOh right :)15:30
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2004551 in openssh (Ubuntu) "upgrade to lunar fails due to rescue-ssh.target or port 22 takeover" [High, New]15:30
schopinthanks ogayot15:31
schopinnothing actionable for us there as nobody seems to be able to reproduce it, let's leave the tag to revisit it next week, enr0n to try to look at it meanwhile.15:34
schopin#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:35
schopinnothing new for us there15:35
juliankalso nothing in jammy fwiw15:35
schopin#topic Team proposed-migration report15:36
schopin#link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs15:36
juliankMIR stuff to be demoted15:37
juliankcryptsetup blocking linux-meta ( to for 15 days15:37
zhsjkmod vs dpdk-kmods needs a retry, just clicked for arm64 and ppc64el (i already clicked retry on amd64 before)15:39
juliankcryptsetup: bdrung15:39
julianktpm2-tss: danilogondolfo15:40
julianktpm2-tss: dviererbe15:41
juliankI actually uploaded that but have no cycles to investigate the build test failures, soo much flakyness15:42
juliankvim: danilogondolfo (check if retry ppc64el works, maybe dig some more)15:43
danilogondolfojuliank, ack15:43
juliankkmod vs dpdk-kmods: zhsj15:44
juliankwhich already retried :)15:44
juliankdbus: is with ogayot afaict15:45
juliankdbus-python is the same thing15:45
juliankboth are failures in openrazer-drivers missing gcc-1215:45
ogayotjuliank: ack, will look at dbus. I uploaded it15:45
juliankYou also have a Jira issue for it from July 2015:46
julianklivecd-rootfs blocking lsb-release-minimal15:46
julianklivecd-rootfs blocking lsb-release-minimal: ginggs15:46
julianklsb-release-minimal vs zfs-linux: xypron15:47
xypronjuliank: next week I on the armhf shift15:47
julianklsb-release-minimal vs zfs-linux: slyon15:48
julianke2fsprogs vs initramfs-tools: mateus-morais15:48
julianke2fsprogs vs livecd-roots livecd-rootfs: enr0n15:48
julianksigh typo15:48
juliankcurl: pushkarnk15:49
juliankcmake vs khronos-opencl-clhpp: schopin15:50
juliankcmake vs wslay: liushuyu15:51
liushuyujuliank: ack15:51
juliankWe ran out of new stuff and people in the meeting so everyone who's not here today gets a free pass15:51
juliankschopin: back to you15:52
schopin#topic AOB15:52
schopinAny vacation coming up?15:52
dbungertI'm at a conference half of next week, including jammy point release.  ogayot to be on hand to help with subiquity if needed15:52
dviererbeAs mentioned in my Discourse Update, I am out for 2 weeks, starting next week15:53
ginggswinter is coming15:54
slyonFeature Freeze is coming up next week15:54
ginggsyes, that :)15:54
enr0nI thought that was Aug 1715:54
ginggsplease do look at your TIL universe merges15:54
schopinslyon: fake news!15:55
slyonsorry my bad :) we have one extra week15:55
juliankNext week is grub 2.12 landing day15:55
juliankAnd my off week15:55
schopinand glibc too.15:55
schopinand openssl15:55
juliankwell 2.12~rc1 landing day for mantic release pocket :)15:56
pushkarnk(ignore my empty message)15:56
schopinAnything else?15:57
meetingologyMeeting ended at 15:58:20 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-08-03-15.08.moin.txt15:58

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