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cjwatsonjuergh,bdrung: FWIW I tracked this down as far as https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/2029879 (i.e. the kernel team broke Launchpad ;-) )00:22
-ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2029879 in Launchpad itself "send-bug-notifications hangs on a large number of notifications related to a single bug" [Undecided, New]00:22
mwhudsonoh not how i was expecting them to break it!00:28
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vpa1977Hi, would it be possible to restart https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rstcheck/6.1.2+~1.0.3-1/+build/26299872 . The package just built successfully in PPA: https://launchpad.net/~vpa1977/+archive/ubuntu/pastebinit/+sourcepub/15055289/+listing-archive-extra. Thank you !!!!01:40
tsimonq2vpa1977: .02:12
vpa1977Thank you !!!!02:12
tsimonq2No worries. :)02:13
tsimonq2vpa1977: Looking at bug 2029877 as well for you.02:13
-ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Bug 2029877 in network-manager-strongswan (Ubuntu) "failure to build due to deprecated declarations" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202987702:13
tsimonq2*ahem*02:13
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tsimonq2;)02:13
vpa1977Thank you =) tried to fix it properly but there are too many changes =)02:13
* tsimonq2 thinks < GTK 4 && < Qt 6 should start going by the wayside. :P02:14
tsimonq2vpa1977: Let me just say, for the record, that the patch makes me *kinda* uncomfy.02:15
tsimonq2That being said, you filed both a Debian bug and an upstream one. It's a reasonable enough solution if it's truly going to fix the FTBFS and won't cause end-user issues.02:16
vpa1977hmmm, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/680308142/buildlog_ubuntu-mantic-amd64.rstcheck_6.1.2+~1.0.3-1_BUILDING.txt.gz - rstcheck still failed to build in archive, but builds in ppa02:16
vpa1977I have installed ppa version and checked that dialog works fine - I was able to configure vpn connection with strongwan02:17
tsimonq2Do yourself a favor and learn about piuparts :)02:17
tsimonq2Sponsoring02:17
vpa1977piuparts. yes this will help ;)02:18
tsimonq2Glad I could help ;) you should get an email soon, I'll also mark as such on the MP and the bug report. Pretty please, follow up once you get a patch ;)02:20
vpa1977tsimonq2: +102:21
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tjaaltonLocutusOfBorg: nice, thanks03:01
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bdrungcjwatson, Thanks. Could I subsribe to this bug to follow the progress on it? ;-)07:35
cjwatsonbdrung: maybe? :-)08:36
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tsimonq2Bug 2029523 just needs an SRU template, otherwise it should be good.15:11
-ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Bug 2029523 in docker.io-app (Ubuntu Jammy) "docker export is missing ownership information" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202952315:11
tsimonq2Other sponsorship requests have been cleared out; I'm leaving that one on the queue.15:12
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tsimonq2Still lurking if anyone needs sponsorship ;)15:12
kanashiro[m]tsimonq2: the docker.io-app bug is probably affecting other release as well, I am planning to take a look at that15:12
tsimonq2kanashiro[m]: Looks like it's pretty exclusively stable releases.15:14
tsimonq2In fact, seems like an SRU regression.15:14
tsimonq2In any case, all yours kanashiro[m] :)15:14
kanashiro[m]yes, it is a regression15:14
kanashiro[m]thanks :)15:15
tsimonq2No worries :)15:21
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utkarsh2102vorlon: hey, so looking at https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/germinate-output/ubuntu.mantic/cloud-minimal, I just noticed it doesn't populate with the contents of the seed which the cloud-minimal "inherited" from, that is, contents of server-cloud-minimal. Is that expected? am I missing something?16:25
utkarsh2102similarly for https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/germinate-output/ubuntu.mantic/server-minimal. Should it not have the contents from server-cloud-minimal?16:25
vorlonutkarsh2102: expected16:32
utkarsh2102vorlon: oh, wait a second, germinate-output of cloud-minimal does mention ubuntu-cloud-minimal, is there where things are happening behind the scenes?16:32
utkarsh2102could you explain the BTS a bit, please? ^.^16:32
vorlonutkarsh2102: the seed contents aren't duplicated, the relationship is documented in https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/germinate-output/ubuntu.mantic/structure16:33
vorlone.g. pretty much everything depends on 'standard', but we don't pull the contents of the standard seed into all the other seeds16:33
vorlonthat would end up with an excess of task headers, for one thing16:33
vorlon(and probably duplicate dependencies in metapackages)16:33
ahasenackxypron: around?16:36
xypronahasenack: Hi16:36
ahasenackxypron: sorry, I know it's late. I'm looking at the rsyslog merge16:36
ahasenackdid you see the ping to push the logical tag? Do you have it locally?16:36
xypronNo I don't have it. I need to get back to that but was busy with other stuff.16:37
utkarsh2102vorlon: aha, I was missing that, thank you! I could see that the installation of ubuntu-cloud-minimal on a fresh container is pulling in all the packages from server-cloud-minimal but couldn't comprehend what those files are showing, many thanks.16:37
xypronahasenack: I really need to get more experience with git-ubuntu.16:38
ahasenackxypron: that's fine16:38
ahasenackxypron: you have split, going to logical with that is much simpler, a) remove changelog and update-maintainer commits16:38
ahasenackb) if you want, you can squash multiple commits changing the same thing into one. FOr example, one upload added a dep8 test, and the next upload changing something in that test. This could be one commit16:39
ahasenackthis last bit (b) is optional16:39
ahasenackit just helps to keep our delta with debian more consice16:39
ahasenacker16:39
ahasenackconcise16:39
ahasenackbut I can continue without it, if there are no surprises in the commits and rebasing16:40
ahasenack(and I'm familiar with the rsyslog package, which I changed a bit in the past)16:40
xypronThe only merge conflicts where on the test config file because Debian added some tests and our old Ubuntu created the same file.16:40
ahasenackright, they added a dep8 test16:41
xypron3 of them16:41
xypronahasenack: I am off now.16:42
ahasenackxypron: cool, enjoy the weekend!16:42
utkarsh2102vorlon: (probably not the last but) lastly, we do see "Recommened" packages being installed, too. For instance when I try to install ubuntu-cloud-minimal, it's pulling in software-properties-common.16:42
utkarsh2102root@mtemp:~# aptitude why software-properties-common16:42
utkarsh2102i   ubuntu-cloud-minimal Depends    cloud-init16:42
utkarsh2102i A cloud-init           Recommends software-properties-common16:42
utkarsh2102but we do have feature: no-follow-recommends in the seed definition.16:43
utkarsh2102would it still pull in the Recommends? I was under the assumption that it won't, unless explicitly told.16:43
vorlonutkarsh2102: no-follow-recommends affects the behavior of the *construction of the metapackage*; it has no effect on whether apt follows recommends at install time16:44
vorlonthe cloud-init package in the archive still Recommends: software-properties-common, no matter what you write in the seed file.  So when you install ubuntu-cloud-minimal package, unless you override the apt option, you get default apt behavior to follow recommends16:44
utkarsh2102aha! so when we use that in livecd-rootfs, how should we use the seed in a way that's not going to be installing Recommends?16:46
vorlonI don't know that there is an interface for this in livecd-rootfs16:47
utkarsh2102   if [ "${SUBPROJECT:-}" = minimized ]; then16:48
utkarsh2102      add_package install ubuntu-cloud-minimal --no-install-recommends16:48
utkarsh2102because this won't look right^16:49
utkarsh2102:P16:49
utkarsh2102or would it?16:49
vorlonutkarsh2102: if that works, it's entirely an accident17:22
utkarsh2102hah!17:23
utkarsh2102mwhudson: any idea if we can leverage the --no-install-recommends feature in livecd-rootfs?17:24
philrocheutkarsh2102:  We'd need to see if the `add_package ` function accepts arguments like that18:45
utkarsh2102philroche: of course, that's a given.18:47
utkarsh2102philroche: I'm just asking if they happen to know if we can actually leverage it.18:47
utkarsh2102a workaround or whatever.18:47
utkarsh2102it wouldn't be directly possible I imagine.18:48
vorlonyou should not do that given the current architecture of the code19:28
vorlonbecause "add_package" explicitly takes its list of arguments and spits them out into a file under config/package-lists/19:29
vorloncan we be asking instead of cloud-init should not Recommend software-properties-common?19:29
tsimonq2For patch pilots, a fix for bug 1756748 is coming down the pipe. Should allow you to sync multiple packages at once.19:45
-ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Bug 1756748 in ubuntu-dev-tools (Ubuntu) "[syncpackage] Allow me to sync multiple packages at one time" [Wishlist, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175674819:45
cjwatsonBTW, LP bug notifications are working normally again - we basically just excised the several tens of thousands of notifications about a single bug being rapidly flipped back and forward between New and Incomplete by a rogue script.20:18
cjwatson(also I just pushed an MP to sort out alerting for it)20:35
Unit193Hmm, who do I ping about MATE things these days?20:53
Unit193tsimonq2: Speaking of ubuntu-dev-tools, does `pull-debian-source` work for you?21:05
fossfreedom_Anyone around with memories about ubiquity? I want to test making changes to ubiquity-dm to see what happens on the initial try install screen you see on booting a legacy iso. Any ideas how to restart into that screen?22:08
RikMillsfossfreedom_: you can stop the display manager22:48
RikMillsthen sudo systemctrl start ubiquity.service22:48
RikMillsI think....22:49
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fossfreedom_RikMills: yay! Cheers. That works nicely22:59
RikMills:)23:01

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