[19:00] <rbasak> o/
[19:01] <bdmurray> o/
[19:05] <rbasak> bdmurray: shall we proceed anyway even though other members are absent? We can probably discuss the outstanding items without needing quorum.
[19:05] <rbasak> Since I don't see any applications today
[19:06] <rbasak> It's an opportunity to catch up with the other items since they tend to get pushed back when we do have applications.
[19:06] <bdmurray> rbasak: That seems fine to me
[19:07] <rbasak> #startmeeting Developer Membership Board
[19:07] <meetingology> Meeting started at 19:07:08 UTC.  The chair is rbasak.  Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology
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[19:07] <rbasak> #topic Review of previous action items
[19:07] <rbasak> #action teward follow up to get all application process wiki/docs to explain the process to be able to edit wiki pages, for applicants who don't yet have wiki edit access (carried over)
[19:07] <meetingology> ACTION: teward follow up to get all application process wiki/docs to explain the process to be able to edit wiki pages, for applicants who don't yet have wiki edit access (carried over)
[19:07] <rbasak> #action rbasak to document the decision on Keeping IRC meetings moving
[19:07] <meetingology> ACTION: rbasak to document the decision on Keeping IRC meetings moving
[19:07] <rbasak> ^ this needs carrying over but the documentation does currently exist in the form of the email; it just needs moving to the wiki
[19:08] <rbasak> #action utkarsh2102 to handle announcement and PPU adjustments for nkshirsa
[19:08] <meetingology> ACTION: utkarsh2102 to handle announcement and PPU adjustments for nkshirsa
[19:08] <rbasak> #topic Outstanding mailing list requests to assign
[19:08] <bdmurray> Can we check on utkarsh's item?
[19:08] <rbasak> Sure
[19:09] <rbasak> #undo
[19:09] <meetingology> Removing item from minutes: TOPIC
[19:09] <rbasak> Looks like that's done actually?
[19:10] <rbasak> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2023-July/002316.html
[19:10] <rbasak> And the announcement was here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2023-June/002312.html
[19:11] <rbasak> And that did go to ubuntu-news-team@ and to ubuntu-devel@ it seems.
[19:11] <rbasak> bdmurray: OK to continue?
[19:12] <bdmurray> I checked with edit-acl and agree they have upload rights
[19:12] <rbasak> Thanks!
[19:12] <bdmurray> I'll remove it from the action items
[19:12] <rbasak> So let's remove that action...
[19:12] <rbasak> #undo
[19:12] <meetingology> Removing item from minutes: LINK
[19:12] <rbasak> #undo
[19:12] <meetingology> Removing item from minutes: ACTION
[19:14] <rbasak> I don't know if Odd_Bloke's request is still outstanding, but I think that's down to the Ubuntu Membership Board now, and not the DMB, and that's been discussed in the thread.
[19:14] <rbasak> So I don't think there's anything to do there.
[19:14] <bdmurray> Let me look at the last email about that
[19:14] <rbasak> Perhaps we should follow up
[19:17] <bdmurray> I'm not finding the email but I got the feeling he wasn't being helped.
[19:17] <rbasak> Let me reply to prompt the membership board to reply
[19:20] <rbasak> Done
[19:20] <rbasak> I agree he should have had a more definite reply by now, but I don't think that's within the scope of the DMB any more.
[19:22] <rbasak> Any other comment? Can I move on?
[19:23] <bdmurray> No more comments, let's carry on.
[19:23] <rbasak> #topic Open TB bugs
[19:24] <rbasak> #info There are currently no open bugs.
[19:24] <rbasak> #topic Why is mythbuntu-dev still a delegated team when it isn't a flavor?
[19:24] <rbasak> Seems to me that this just needs some cleaning up?
[19:25] <bdmurray> And maybe some flavor removal process documentation updates but since there isn't any...
[19:26] <rbasak> Would you like to take that action?
[19:28] <bdmurray> The action being removing mythbuntu-dev from ubuntu-dev or whatever teams are appropriate?
[19:28] <rbasak> Yes
[19:28] <bdmurray> Does the packageset also need removing?
[19:28] <rbasak> I think it would make sense to also remove it
[19:29] <bdmurray> Okay, yes I can do those things.
[19:29] <rbasak> #action bdmurray to clean up the defunct mythbuntu-dev team, associated packageset and anything else related
[19:29] <meetingology> ACTION: bdmurray to clean up the defunct mythbuntu-dev team, associated packageset and anything else related
[19:29] <rbasak> #topic Reviewing members of Ubuntu Contributing Developers. There are some people whose membership in team appears redundant to me. Should people be removed when added to MOTU or CoreDev?
[19:30] <rbasak> I'm still in ~ubuntu-server-dev IIRC. I don't see a particular reason to clean these up - seems like busywork to no benefit. Am I missing something?
[19:30] <rbasak> I agree it's redundant though
[19:32] <bdmurray> I don't recall how I ended up looking at this and I agree cleaning it up would be busy work but if the redundant members keep renewing we'd be saving them some time?
[19:33] <rbasak> They might object for nostalgic or social reasons though.
[19:33] <rbasak> We'd have to ask, and that seems like a lot of work.
[19:33] <rbasak> OTOH if they want to remove themselves they can.
[19:34] <bdmurray> Alright.
[19:36] <rbasak> #agreed We won't remove members from the redundant uploading teams
[19:36] <meetingology> AGREED: We won't remove members from the redundant uploading teams
[19:36] <rbasak> #topic AOB
[19:36] <rbasak> AOB?
[19:37] <bdmurray> Nothing from me.
[19:39] <rbasak> #endmeeting
[19:39] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 19:39:24 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-08-07-19.07.moin.txt
[19:39] <rbasak> Thanks!