[00:47] <novaTopFlex> I am sorry, but I do not know if this is the correct IRC channel for this issue. I have attempted to run MusE from the official Ubuntu repositories on my 22.04 LTS "Jammy Jellyfish" system, but the software is invariably stuck on the screen displaying the text, "Populating Track context menu." I would like advice on how to fix this issue (I am running Ubuntu 22.04 LTS on a system with an Intel Core i5-7267U (Kaby Lake-U) CPU @
[00:47] <novaTopFlex> 3.10 GHz with both cores enabled. My system operates only on the graphics processor integrated into the CPU, if that makes any difference, and I am unsure if the instruction set available to the CPU prevents MusE from loading. I am also unsure if either my display manager, SDDM, or my window manager, JWM, are preventing MusE from launching properly, or if the indexing requires an extensive amount of time.)
[00:47] <novaTopFlex> Sorry about the confusing at symbol by the way.
[00:52] <sarnold> oo pretty https://github.com/muse-sequencer/muse/blob/master/muse.png
[00:53] <sarnold> lol, you've beat me to their issues :)
[00:55] <sarnold> novaTopFlex: try running muse from a terminal, maybe you can get more useful messages from it that way?
[01:13] <xueshengmin> ??????
[01:17] <xueshengmin> ?/
[01:17] <xueshengmin> ?
[01:17] <sarnold> xueshengmin: you have to stick around long enough for someone to reply :)
[01:17] <sarnold> xueshengmin: it also helps if you ask a useful question
[01:17] <xueshengmin> hi
[01:18] <xueshengmin> 有人在吗？
[01:18] <xueshengmin> ？
[01:21] <jdsfighter> Is there a way to setup palm rejection with Elan touchpads? I'm seeing it for synaptic, but I'm not finding much information about how how to do similar elan
[01:21] <akik> some people
[01:23] <akik> it's amazing how these translation services let you understand chinese
[01:26] <sarnold> jdsfighter: try running "xinput list-props" on your device, as shown in this first post https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=268508
[01:28] <sarnold> jdsfighter: if you've got "Disable While Typing" listed like that, try: xinput set-prop "Elan Touchpad" "Disable While Typing" 1   -- or something similar
[01:29] <jdsfighter> sarnold: I do have it, but it appears to already be set to 1. "libinput Disable While Typing Enabled (330):    1"
[01:29] <sarnold> dang :( I really hoped it was going to be that easy :(
[01:31] <jdsfighter> It's almost like it's not sensitive enough. Every time I so much as think about the trackpad, it's shifted its focus over to another window. It's VERY sensitive. And I like to rest my hands right next to the trackpad :c
[01:33] <sarnold> I've always had the impression that the linux userland code just pokes a configuration for it -- and the hardware device is responsible for implementing it
[01:33] <sarnold> if i"m right, it means you don't have a whole lot of choice :(
[01:34] <jdsfighter> That's unfortunate! Guess it'll be easier to adjust my hand position than write a driver
[01:34] <rbox> keyboard layout/touchpad position is always #1 on my list when looking for a laptop
[01:35] <jdsfighter> This 2023 Lenovo Legion 5 Pro was just on too good a sale to pass up. 24 core i9, RTX 4070, 32gb ram < $1600 USD. Unfortunately it mean leaving a very well supported ~10 year old asus
[01:36] <rbox> it takes me weeks and many trips to stores to pick somethign
[01:36] <sarnold> jdsfighter: wow that does sound like a pretty good deal :)
[01:38] <jdsfighter> sarnold: Lenovo 16" Legion Pro 5i 16IRX8 on bhphotovideo to be precise. It's still fairly bleeding edge, but I've been quite happy in the last ~4 days I've had it
[01:46] <sarnold> jdsfighter: nice nice :) I hope you can find a good way to deal witht he touchpad :(
[03:19] <abbott> toes = yum
[04:55] <adminmaster> wow
[04:59] <adminmaster> Liunx bug terminer cd ../  <<  adminmaster root ....
[05:00] <adminmaster> ls
[10:35] <cawx> I'm trying to 'sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade' WSL 20.4, but it says repo no longer has a release file. --allow-unauthenticated doesn't seem to help. Unsure what to put in /etc/apt/sources.list either. Any tips? https://pastebin.com/Wi3FQ4j3
[10:38] <noob23122> hello everyone, does anyone know if ufw firewall is able to close idle connections and where to set that up?
[10:42] <itai> is there a way of tuning ubuntu for a apecific laptop, architecture? I have had some glitches after installing it on my new pc.
[10:45] <weedmic> itai: do you mean beyond setting a master up perfectly and cloning it to other machines and then changing their host names?
[10:49] <itai> weedmic: how do you mean?
[11:03] <davegarath> Hi all, someone use steam with proton ? I'm trying to run a game but I have some problems
[11:05] <weedmic> itai: what do you mean by "way of tuning ubuntu for a apecific laptop, architecture"?
[11:15] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:21] <jpe> is there a specific channel for lxd?
[11:26] <weedmic> under f5 (channel list) in konversation, I saw #lxd with 44 users in there right now.
[11:26] <weedmic> jpe: ^
[11:27] <jpe> ok thanks
[11:54] <itai> weedmic: I thought that after installing ubuntu, some work that can be done to make it faster. reconfiguring the kernel, etc...
[11:55] <itai> getting proper drivers.
[12:28] <EdwardIII> can anyone link me some up to date info on how to stop (i guess gnome?) stealing my bluetooth headphones connection? only seems to happen with ubuntu, other devices don't seem to do it. when i search i find stuff like this from 2015, so not sure if it's still relevant today: https://askubuntu.com/questions/605878/how-to-prevent-a-bluetooth-headset-to-autoconnect-without-disabling-bluetooth
[12:52] <infpool05> :)
[13:42] <ApostleInTriumph> Hello! I've upgraded to 22.04 LTS and since then, I am unable to install Slack. I tried via snap and apt. Both doesn't work. Neither trying to start the app from terminal. Can someone help figure what's going on? Restart didn't help either. When I try from terminal, however, I get this error, `mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/run/user/0’:
[13:42] <ApostleInTriumph> Permission denied`
[14:35] <ogra> ApostleInTriumph, are you trying to run slack as root ? /run/user/0 kind of indicates that ... dont ever try to run graphical applications as root ...
[14:36] <ApostleInTriumph> Ah yes, it was from sudo su -
[14:36] <leftyfb> ApostleInTriumph: don't do that
[16:31]  * zeroadrenaline is away: auto-away
[16:39] <lexandrop> Hi. Kubuntu LTS user here. What's the point of using non-LTS kernels in LTS ubuntu releases? I'm on 22.04.3 now and my kernel version is 6.2.0 . Previously I had 5.19.0, and before (AFAIR) 5.17.something . I do understand that ubuntu developers make these kernels "LTS" on their own, but why don't they just use "officially LTS" kernel versions?
[16:40] <lexandrop> I even tried to google it, but couldn't find any solid reasons in the top results.
[16:41] <oerheks> lexandrop,  we recently switched to 6.2, for LTS.
[16:41] <leftyfb> lexandrop: maybe ask in #ubuntu-kernel
[16:41] <lexandrop> oerheks: but, according to https://kernel.org/ , 6.1 is LTS, not 6.2
[16:41] <oerheks> start with Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS
[16:42] <oerheks>  Linux kernel 6.2 isn’t the most recent kernel release it’s newer than the GA kernel
[16:43] <hggdh> because 6.2 is a newer kernel, and it is offered to 22.04 (part of what is called "hardware enablement"). The Ubuntu kernel team will support it
[16:44] <oerheks> jups !hwe
[16:44] <oerheks> !hwe
[16:50] <lexandrop> ok, it seems like they just take the latest stable kernel version available at the beginning of new ubuntu version development, and continue supporting it. Kernel 5.17 was available when Ubuntu 22.04 was released, 5.19 - 22.04.1, 6.2 - 22.04.2
[16:50] <lexandrop> still a bit questionable approach in my own opinion, but at least it makes sense now :) thank you for your replies
[16:51] <oerheks> have fun!
[16:52] <maarten-laptop> Hello, I installed ubuntu cinnamon. Why is gnome installed? Can I remove it?
[16:52] <lexandrop> btw, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases page doesn't mention anything about 22.04.3 yet. I'm to lazy to register there on my own, but I do recall mentioning the similar thing once in the past, and someone added the info :)
[16:54] <oerheks> lexandrop,  time to do a apt dist-upgrade
[17:02] <jhutchins> maarten-laptop: Why not just leave gnome alone for now.  You can always remove it later when you're more familiar with why it might be there.
[17:02] <jhutchins> !cinnamon
[17:02] <maarten-laptop> jhutchins: it's quite rude to assume you know anything about me from one sentence
[17:03] <oerheks> adding a desktop is no problem, removing one is interesting
[17:03] <oerheks> start all over if it fails? https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntucinnamon/releases/lunar/release/
[17:04] <coconut> maarten-laptop, there is no irc support for cinnamon here at Libera server. There is on irc.spotchat.org however.
[17:05] <maarten-laptop> coconut: do you meant #linuxmint-help? Is there a specific one for ubuntu cinnamon?
[17:05] <oerheks> coconut, we do support cinnamon
[17:05] <coconut> oh ok
[17:05] <oerheks> just not a dedicated channel, that is all
[17:05] <jhutchins> coconut: The base OS on all of the flavors is the same and is supported here.
[17:10] <coconut> maarten-laptop, yes i was thinking that channel indeed since i was reading this website: https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/12
[17:10] <coconut> but there seems support here, so i have not said...
[17:10] <ravage> [..] In the Ubuntu Technical Board meeting over IRC on March 28, 2023, Ubuntu Cinnamon was officially deemed a flavor by Ubuntu
[17:12] <coconut> ...that's not even lang ago i see
[17:13] <oerheks> it has its own iso too
[17:13] <maarten-laptop> I didn´t spot that it was that recently, perhaps that's why it's a bit of a mess.
[17:14] <maarten-laptop> As in some windows don´t have a close button but require closing using the context menu.
[17:14] <oerheks> alt + F4 is magic
[17:15] <maarten-laptop> Or well maybe it's minor stuff, but it would be nice if there were an official chat to ask whether these are known issues
[17:16] <oerheks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cinnamon/+bugs?orderby=-datecreated&start=0 .. not that much
[17:22] <maarten-laptop> oerheks and also ask why gnome is installed as according to wikipedia cinnamon doesn´t use gnome at all.
[17:22] <oerheks> did you use the ' ubuntu' iso and put cinnamon on it?
[17:23] <oerheks> then you have gnome3+cinnamon
[17:23] <maarten-laptop> I used the official ubuntu cinnamon iso
[17:23] <maarten-laptop> https://ubuntucinnamon.org/
[17:23] <oerheks> weird, did not test it myself, but sound awkward
[17:24] <maarten-laptop> there's also the gnome store and gnome default apps such as gedit instead of xed
[17:24] <maarten-laptop> though it does come with nemo so that does work
[17:24] <ravage> installing from ubuntucinnamon-22.04.2-amd64.iso right now
[17:24] <oerheks> https://ubuntucinnamon.org/ is not ubuntu??
[17:25] <maarten-laptop> oerheks if you go to the ubuntu website and look at official flavors it redirects you to that site
[17:26] <oerheks> hmmm, https://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntu-cinnamon-remix/files/latest/download >> https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntucinnamon/releases/lunar/release/
[17:27] <oerheks> i would not use sourceforge
[17:27] <oerheks> remix sounds like a mint people project to me..
[17:27] <oerheks> yes you are right, the flavors page point to https://ubuntucinnamon.org/ ....
[17:27] <oerheks> but the download, weird
[17:28] <oerheks> and sourceforge stopped after 22.10
[17:28] <maarten-laptop> oerheks https://ubuntu.com/desktop/flavours
[17:28] <oerheks> time to file a bug report, this is not clear
[17:29] <maarten-laptop> oerheks so instead I should reinstall from https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntucinnamon/releases/lunar/release/ ?
[17:30] <oerheks> maarten-laptop, yes please.
[17:30] <maarten-laptop> My system hasn´t automatically updated to 23.04 even after running apt upgrade
[17:30] <oerheks> lunar is 23.04, one could get the lts version too
[17:30] <ravage> from what i see from the 22.04 release it just uses parts of the original Ubuntu tools
[17:30] <ravage> like the software center and some basic tools
[17:31] <ravage> there is no full gnome desktop installation
[17:32] <oerheks> so the remix <> cinnamon iso are different?
[17:32] <ravage> no
[17:33] <ravage> both names somehow are still valid
[17:33] <ravage> the official new name is "Ubuntu Cinnamon"
[17:33] <oerheks> as of 23.04?
[17:33] <maarten-laptop> ravage the 22.04 version I installed has 3 GUI apps for installing software by default.. GNOME Software, Software Updater and Synaptic Package Manager
[17:33] <oerheks> oh oke solved
[17:34] <ravage> yes. not sure why synaptic is there
[17:35] <oerheks> i like synaptic, despite there are no snaps listed
[17:35] <ravage> snap is present btw :)
[17:37] <maarten-laptop> ravage yes that too, but I assume that's because I pressed install additional apps during install
[17:37] <ravage> and so far i dont see any problems with closing windows
[17:37] <maarten-laptop> synaptic is an app that normally comes with linuxmint afaik thus that's the only one that makes sense I think
[17:38] <maarten-laptop> ravage try to install hexchat for example
[17:38] <maarten-laptop> ravage the channel list window doesn´t have a close button
[17:39] <oerheks> that would be a bug.
[17:39] <oerheks> !bug
[17:39] <maarten-laptop> or without installing anything.. shotwell -> edit -> preferences
[17:40] <ravage> yep no close button on hexchat
[17:40] <ravage> ESC works find at least
[17:42] <ravage> also alt+f4 and right click -> close work
[18:01] <bombastick> Can someone explain to me how Ubuntu packages are updated? I'm on 22.04. The package 'ranger' from Universe crashes when run in a directory with a YAML file in it. Upstream fixed it in Nov 2022 https://github.com/ranger/ranger/issues/2752 , however it doesn't seem to have made its way to Ubuntu LTS. Does this mean it's because no maintainer made the effort to patch it? Or are there policies
[18:01] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 2752 in ranger/ranger "Ranger crash for YAML files - Color number is greater than COLORS-1 (7)" [Closed]
[18:01] <bombastick> preventing it?
[18:03] <bombastick> I see ,there are policies in place preventing it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[18:03] <cbreak> bombastick: it might be from debian somehow... LTS versions, and ubuntu in general, won't update major versions for most packages
[18:03] <cbreak> but you can get ranger from source, that's what I did
[18:03] <bombastick> that's what I will do too
[18:04] <cbreak> you could also use pip I suppose, but... git seems better
[18:04] <bombastick> git?
[18:04] <bombastick> ah, you mean building from source
[18:04] <cbreak> git@github.com:ranger/ranger.git
[18:04] <cbreak> well, "building", yes
[18:04] <cbreak> it's python, so I think it's mostly copying stuff
[18:04] <bombastick> I prefer having a static binary to put in /usr/local/bin, if possible. I'll see what releases ranger has.
[18:04] <bombastick> or build from source
[18:05] <cbreak> if you clone the repo, you should be able to run `sudo make install` to get a ranger binary in /usr/local/bin
[18:06] <cbreak> (well... it's a python text file as usual)
[18:07] <bombastick> oh you're right, it's just a python file I can copy there
[18:08] <cbreak> (you'll need more than just that file, but the sudo make install part should take care of that)
[18:11] <bombastick> it's still crashing, I didnt realize the tag 1.9.3 was from 2019. How does one undo make install?
[18:11] <bombastick> I'll install from master
[18:12] <bombastick> ok, all good. there's no make uninstall but I just reran install.
[18:14] <bombastick> I forgot what I was doing before I got sidetracked by this :/
[18:40] <magga> for some reason i cant connect my airpods anymore with bluetooth. has worked for a long time
[18:40] <magga> Failed to connect: org.bluez.Error.Failed br-connection-page-timeout
[19:02] <mihon> I have a problem regarding permissions, i ran a docker command and after that it is all screwed up. I am in bash all the time. I can't even cd and when i try it says user: Permission denied. HOw do i fix this?
[20:22] <Sharp> hello
[21:26] <jhutchins> !ping
[21:26] <jhutchins> !botsnack
[21:49] <ray_> whats the best way to get a - creative sound card to work - thanks.
[21:56] <jhutchins> ray: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[21:57] <ray_> i installed a creative sound card - pulse sees the card - no audio output.
[21:57] <jhutchins> ray_: Did you check all of the outputs?
[21:58] <ray_> yes - alsamixer i changed to creative - as all other settings - they see the card - no output
[21:59] <jhutchins> ray_: This is a bit old but might help: ALSA Checklist:
[21:59] <jhutchins> 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out & in again)  2) unmute and raise channels w/ alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if available)  3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped?  4) speakers on?  5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root?  6) purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist.
[22:00] <ray_> ok - will read -  thanks jhutchins
[22:01] <ray_> ill give it a shot.
[22:01] <jhutchins> ray_: Also I was suggesting you check all of the physical outputs.
[23:01] <cores> some time between last night (usa eastern time) and a few hours ago my laptop powered off and i'm trying to figure out why. Ubuntu 20.04 on Dell XPS 13 w/ no extra power managment tweeks.
[23:01] <cores> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MGQBwyksSf/
[23:01] <cores> it looks like it just decided to shutdown on its own like it was supposed to do that
[23:03] <cores> but as best i can remember, i left everything running: desktop, firefox, terminals
[23:57] <guiverc> I'm betting I hit a random key & made my menu bar disappear from my hexchat IRC client... Anyone know the correct key I should hit to return my menu bar to viewable?   (23.04 currently)