[00:00] <sarnold> some programs will bring up a menu bar if you hit alt+f (file) or something like that
[00:38] <pone> i used to have a boyfriend named "Ubuntu"
[00:47] <rbox> guiverc: right click and select view -> menu bar
[00:49] <guiverc> thank you rbox !!!!   Greatly appreciated  (though I'm still cursing myself for not discovering or trying right-click!!!)
[00:50] <rbox> guiverc: and then it also tells you what the hotkey is
[00:51] <guiverc> :)   (most my attempts to fix were /set related... and mostly just changed more things & made it worse!  so help appreciated!)
[02:00] <aiena> I am using virt-viewer to view a vm screen while watching a video in the vm I notice https://bpa.st/RXDA error and the viewer crashes not the VM itself the vm remains running smoothly. How do I troubleshoot this issue I am using ubuntu 22.04.3 with the latest updates on a corei513500 with integrated graphics.
[02:01] <aiena> *core i5 13500
[02:02] <aiena> I haven't experienced instability on the host or in other apps
[02:04] <aiena> It looks like it may be wayland related https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/124 looks like another app with same output
[02:04] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 124 in GNOME/gtk "Stalled wayland connection causes exit, contrary to Client API documentation" [Opened]
[02:04] <aiena> but I can't make out if wayland really is the cause
[02:12] <aiena> has anyone else experienced this and has a possible solution
[02:17] <basenjis> Not yet, Have you changed to xorg? 'Logout click the password, look to the right for the gear icon; click icon and select ubuntu on xorg then enter password and login.
[02:18] <basenjis> Now your on x11 or xorg on ubuntu
[02:18] <basenjis> does the same happen?
[02:20] <basenjis> Some snaps and apps only work with 'X' others work with both "X" and Wayland.
[02:27] <aiena> basenjis, on stackexchange I found `env GDK_BACKEND=x11 virt-viewer` I ran virtviewer this way and it was pretty stable. I just watcha yt video for long to test. Just rerunning without it to test
[02:27] <aiena> basenjis, to my knowledge all my virt stuff is installed via apt and not snap
[02:29] <aiena> so it seems like maybe that command is working to make the viewer run with x11
[02:31] <basenjis> Agreed with @aiena
[02:31] <aiena> I've just echoed that line to a bash script as a workaround
[02:31] <basenjis> It is installed as a package not a snap
[02:31] <aiena> yes
[02:32] <aiena> I am neutral to snaps dont love or hate them
[02:32] <aiena> the only snap I am aware of which i use regularly is firefox's snap
[02:32] <aiena> the rest is apt or compiled from source
[02:32] <aiena> or appimages wherever possible
[02:33] <basenjis> True, same here
[02:33] <aiena> basenjis, I diont know the env command so well
[02:34] <aiena> does that env var persist shell wide or only for that command?
[02:34] <Your_Dog> im ok with mixing snaps and flatpaks
[02:35] <aiena> I have a flatpaks but it gets messy
[02:35] <aiena> a few
[02:35] <basenjis> I have the virt package associated with virtual box will not run with out x11 .. not wayland on virtual box.
[02:35] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[02:36] <aiena> sorry
[02:36] <basenjis> I refuse to use flatpacks.. over a bad insident that had happened, you are on your own with flat packs
[02:38] <basenjis> have you checked for broken packages on your OS?
[02:42] <basenjis> I refer to "synaptic" refered to a check, enter syna0ptic and reload all package look down on the bottom line for broken package apply any updates while ther for dependecies.
[02:42] <basenjis> NO--yes
[02:44] <basenjis> https://virt-manager.org/  Virt home page..!
[03:25] <mohad> hey, what implementation of cronjob does ubuntu use?
[04:28] <oerheks> !cron
[04:29] <Unit193> It's basically a forked version of isc's cron.
[04:29] <oerheks> systemctl list-timers # gives a list of jobs
[04:37] <Unit193> ....Not cron jobs it doesn't.
[04:42] <bobdobbs> How do I check if I've already added a repo?
[04:43] <rbox> look if its in /etc/sources.list or /etc/sources.list.d/
[07:30] <ApostleInTriumph> Hello, I'm having troubles with Ubuntu 22.04 and fractional scaling on my second monitor. The fonts are too small and I want to enlarge to 125%. It instead gets to 200% all windows exceeding the monitor dimension. Does anyone else face this?
[07:32] <ice9> after I updated Airpods Pro firmware, now it's unable to pair with Linux, what do you think?
[07:40] <weedmic> ApostleInTriumph: do you want different font sizes on different monitors?  or do you just want a problematic monitor to comply and be the same as the others?
[08:37] <zofrex> I'm trying to write my own `user-data` autoinstall script for Ubuntu Server 23.04
[08:38] <zofrex> I have a basic version of it working, so I know the user-data file is being picked up correctly etc. But as I'm adding new things to it, it's breaking. And when it breaks I don't get an error message, instead the installer switches to the user interactive mode
[08:38] <zofrex> my primary question here is: how do you test and debug scripts for the autoinstall process?
[08:59] <zofrex> I found log files in /var/log/installer, I can't find any relevant error in them but maybe someone more familiar with them could?
[08:59] <zofrex> I've uploaded all the log files, and the user-data file, and the old user-data file that worked, here: https://gist.github.com/zofrex/ad56297898df10ea35f2487397d085b2
[09:01] <zofrex> to recap: the "user-data-broken" file does not work when supplied as a user-data file for the autoinstall process. What I want is a fully unattended automatic install. What happens is it bails to the installer UI, on the first welcome page where you pick a locale.
[10:39] <AndreasE> Hi all, struggling to get the wifi adapter for "BCM4360 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter [1043:85df]" to work on Ubuntu Desktop 23.04. Anyone willing to try and help me?
[10:43] <lotuspsychje> AndreasE: usualy broadcom chipsets are pretty good supported these days on ubuntu
[10:44] <lotuspsychje> AndreasE: are you connected via cable and up to date?
[10:44] <AndreasE> yeah I am
[10:44] <AndreasE> I tested checking the additional drivers which had the STA driver
[10:44] <AndreasE> so it is currently checked
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> AndreasE: driver is loaded on, sudo lshw -C network ?
[10:46] <puntolab> ciao a tutti
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> !it | puntolab
[10:48] <AndreasEubuntu> *-network
[10:48] <AndreasEubuntu>        description: Network controller
[10:48] <AndreasEubuntu>        product: BCM4360 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter
[10:48] <AndreasEubuntu>        vendor: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries
[10:48] <AndreasEubuntu>        physical id: 0
[10:48] <AndreasEubuntu>        bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
[10:48] <AndreasE> ah too much info, anything in particular from output you are after?
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> AndreasEubuntu: yeah, driver= ...
[10:51] <AndreasEubuntu> driver=e1000e driverversion=6.2.0-26-generic duplex
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> AndreasEubuntu: e1000e is prob intel
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> AndreasEubuntu: maybe check your dmesg, paste the whole thing something might got flaky on your broadcom
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> !paste
[10:52] <nate> Is lifetime: 0 not supposed to be the way to functionally tell the system to not use an IP outbound?
[10:52] <AndreasE> sent you the entire output in priv message
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> lets keep it here in the channel AndreasE
[10:53] <nate> I cannot for the life of me seem to get the IPv6 address I want to default as the outbound address, it just keeps using what was originally the SLAAC (which is now statically defined as well)
[10:54] <AndreasEubuntu> lotuspsychje Certainly, here is the full output https://dpaste.com/79M6URLJ3
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> AndreasEubuntu: looks loaded, driver=bcma-pci-bridge latency=0 but still pastebin your full dmesg please for a deeper look
[10:55] <AndreasE> lotuspsychje which dmesg command?
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> !dmesg
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> so just dmesg in your terminal AndreasE
[10:57] <AndreasEubuntu> lotuspsychje https://dpaste.com/9RHMAVBH4
[10:59] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> AndreasEubuntu: tnx, not sure whats going on yet, bcma-pci-bridge 0000:01:00.0: enabling device (0100 -> 0102)
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> AndreasEubuntu: ok lets try something else; type a journalctl -f in your terminal, then switch your broadcom driver to disabled in additional drivers and back on please
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> AndreasEubuntu: then pastebin the output journal gives you
[11:01] <nate> Does anyone have a general example of a netplan config with multiple IPv6 addresses and one forced to be the outbound address?  I have found quite a few supposed ones searching around but none of them work
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> !netplan | nate
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> nate: see also the #ubuntu-server experts (if thats your case) for some deeper netplan/yaml support
[11:03] <nate> I'll go there then cause the netplan website has largely been useless for this lol
[11:09] <AndreasEubuntu> lotuspsychje https://dpaste.com/985SKGKJV
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> AndreasEubuntu: looks like it install properly, not sure whats going on
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> maybe other volunteers have ideas ^
[11:14] <AndreasEubuntu> lotuspsychje it is not something as dumb as I need to input a keyboard shortcut to enable the card?
[11:15] <AndreasEubuntu> so drivers are working as intended but card is disabled somehow?
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> AndreasEubuntu: can you try booting a previous kernel too, maybe its 6.2 related
[11:16] <AndreasEubuntu> lotuspsychje Yeah I guess I could try, not much of an linux expert but will do a quick google search
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> AndreasEubuntu: just hold shift before boot to enter grub, then choose a previous kernel
[11:18] <AndreasEubuntu> Ok will give it a try and then come back here
[11:20] <AndreasE> Not sure if because I am using a bluetooth wireless keyboard but it is just proceeding to the login and not displaying the grub menu lotuspsychje
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> try ESC AndreasE
[11:27] <AndreasE> lotuspsychje got it with ESC, try kernel 6.2.0.20 or 6.2.0.26?
[11:29] <AndreasE> Looks like i am running .26 so I will try .20
[11:30] <AndreasE> Made no change, still no wifi adapter found
[11:42] <AndreasE> lotuspsychje didnt get any options for anything other than 6.2.0.20 or 6.2.0.26 (with or without recovery mode)
[11:49] <AndreasE> lotuspsychje Loaded the latest 6.1 kernel and I can now see that the wifi adaper is up and running #success thank you for all the help
[11:51] <AndreasE72> Should I do anything in regards to report that this is working with kernel 6.1 and not 6.2?
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[12:58] <cawx> I'm trying to 'sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade' Ubuntu 20.04, but it says repo no longer has a opensuse Provessor release file. --allow-unauthenticated doesn't seem to help. Unsure what to put in /etc/apt/sources.list either. Any tips? https://pastebin.com/Wi3FQ4j3
[13:03] <haroon> Helli I have a problem when I use vim on the opens nano I changed the default browser with `sudo update-alternatives --config editor` but that doesnt help. Does someone have a solution for me?
[13:03] <haroon> Sorry for the typos, when I type vim in the bash it opens nano.
[13:04] <leftyfb> haroon: sudo apt install vim
[13:05] <haroon> I have vim installed :D
[13:05] <leftyfb> cawx: remove the repo or contact opensusee for support
[13:06] <cawx> would that be like 'sudo add-apt-repository -r http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Provessor/xUbuntu_20.04'?
[13:06] <leftyfb> haroon: ( cat /etc/os-release ; uname -a ; apt-cache policy vim nano  ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:07] <leftyfb> cawx: you can also just remove the opensuse file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[13:07] <cawx> hmm I will check, ty
[13:08] <haroon> leftyfb: cant use the tool you want, because of network ploicies, but https://paste.debian.net/plain/1288375
[13:09] <leftyfb> haroon: why do you have a PPA for vim?
[13:09] <leftyfb> haroon: the vim you have installed isn't from ubuntu
[13:10] <leftyfb> haroon: remove the ppa, purge vim and reinstall vim
[13:13] <haroon> oke will do, but i dont know why there is a ppa for it i just installed it using apt
[13:14] <leftyfb> haroon: you manually added the jonathonf PPA at some point. It does not come with ubuntu
[13:26] <haroon> leftyfb: still the same issue https://paste.debian.net/plain/1288377
[13:27] <leftyfb> haroon: "type -a vim"
[13:27] <leftyfb> please pastebin the results from running that
[13:29] <haroon> https://paste.debian.net/plain/1288378 However I don't see the alias in the bashrc
[13:31] <leftyfb> you have it aliased somewhere. You need to find it
[13:31] <leftyfb> maybe: sudo grep -R ".*vim.*nano /etc
[13:32] <leftyfb> or in your home
[13:34] <haroon> too much of a hassle, Ill overwrite the alias with a alias in .bash_aliases big brain mode
[13:36] <leftyfb> that would not be recommended
[13:55] <Blohsh> hi there i am on ubuntu 20.04 (focal) i am getting this error running an application, /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.33' not found
[13:55] <Blohsh> and also /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.34' not found
[13:56] <nteodosio> Blohsh, which application? How are you running it exactly?
[13:56] <Blohsh> nteodosio, it's hiddify
[13:56] <Blohsh> i tried running the .appimage i download but it doesn't run so i tried running in terminal and getting this errors
[13:58] <ogra> you have to ask the appimage maintainer then ... we can not support appimages here
[13:58] <ogra> (it was clearly compiled against a different libc)
[13:58] <Blohsh> Help needed for upgrading
[13:59] <nteodosio> For upgrading what?
[13:59] <Blohsh> libc
[13:59] <nteodosio> Well you would need to upgrade to Jammy then.
[14:00] <Blohsh> ldd (Ubuntu GLIBC 2.31-0ubuntu9.9) 2.31
[14:00] <Blohsh> have this currently
[14:00] <nteodosio> But that is not the real problem, it's the Appimage.
[14:00] <ogra> yeah, a libc version is always hard-tied to the ubuntu release
[14:02] <Blohsh> i was thinking something like building glibc in home folder, then using path of libc to run app image so it will use the version required
[14:04] <ravage> That's a path you really don't want to take
[14:04] <ogra> ge the appimage fixed, it is broken ... (not sure it should even use your libc from the machine at all)
[14:04] <ogra> *ge
[14:04] <ogra> bah !
[14:04] <ogra> *get
[14:04] <ravage> Wasting precious bytes today ogra
[14:04] <ogra> haha, yeah
[14:23] <daniman>  Hi, Networking of Ubuntu in my VM is not working. Can't even ping 127.0.0.1 . What am i missing here ?
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[14:31] <leftyfb> !away | zeroadrenaline
[14:32] <leftyfb> zeroadrenaline: this is the 4th time you've been asked
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[14:35] <leftyfb> zeroadrenaline: please turn that off
[15:02]  * zeroadrenaline is away: auto-away
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[15:03] <leftyfb> zeroadrenaline: please turn that off
[15:07] <ApostleInTriumph> Hello. I'm unable to open files via SFTP since upgrading to 22.04. What could be going wrong?
[15:10] <mort> uh, installing libsqlite3-0-dbgsym doesn't work because: libsqlite3-0-dbgsym : Depends: libsqlite3-0 (= 3.37.2-2) but 3.37.2-2ubuntu0.1 is to be installed
[15:10] <mort> has canonical messed up their packaging again
[15:11] <oerheks1> mort no, did you run proper updates before installing?
[15:11] <oerheks1> sudo apt update would give fresh lists...
[15:11] <leftyfb> mort: are you using aptitude?
[15:11] <leftyfb> mort: what release?
[15:11] <mort> leftyfb: 20.04
[15:11] <mort> oerheks1: yeah, everything is upgraded
[15:12] <oerheks1> libsqlite3-0 3.37.2-2ubuntu0.1 is Jammy.. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sqlite3
[15:12] <oerheks1> 22.04.3?
[15:12] <mort> 22.04.3 according to lsb_release -a yeah
[15:13] <Idrogeno> Hello... Have a computer with an out of date ubuntu on it (hirsute) that I'm trying to upgrade, but it won't let me upgrade it because it's not supported and can't be upgraded without being updated
[15:13] <Idrogeno> What's the trick?
[15:13] <oerheks1> !eolupgrade
[15:13] <oerheks1> see the old-releases trick
[15:14] <Idrogeno> thanks
[15:14] <leftyfb> mort: libsqlite3-0-dbgsym is not a package in ubuntu
[15:15] <mort> leftyfb: it's in ddebs.ubuntu.com
[15:15] <mort> the repo Canonical tells you to add to get dbgsym packages
[15:16] <Idrogeno> @oerheks -- Magic, working now.  Appreciate it!
[15:16] <oerheks> Idrogeno, have fun!
[15:18] <mort> honestly how does this kind of bug even happen
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[15:21] <lotuspsychje> !ops | zeroadrenaline repeated auto away messages
[15:21] <oerheks> zeroadrenaline, you have been sked many times, many days to turn of away ..
[15:23] <mort> doesn't IRC even have a built-in away status? Why would you want to send /me messages about that
[15:25] <oerheks> he does that multiple times.. annoying
[15:32] <NoImNotNineVolt> lol, "gone 00:00:53"
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[15:35] <NoImNotNineVolt> zeroadrenaline: we were actually wondering that just now
[15:35] <imi> hi, thunderbird crashes like twice per day
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[15:39] <ravage> zeroadrenaline!*@* added to ignore list. problem solved for me
[15:52] <mort> can you force apt to install a package even though it depends on a version which doesn't exist
[15:53] <ravage> you can make dpkg do almost everything with the right options. but it alomost never is a good idea
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> whats your endgoal exactly mort, what are you trying to do?
[15:55] <mort> lotuspsychje: installing debug symbols for libsqlite3
[15:56] <mort> canonical has fucked up their repo and the dbgsym package depends on a different version of libsqlite3 than what the repos contain
[15:56] <mort> dpkg with --force-depends might be it
[15:58] <hggdh> mort: please mind your language
[15:58] <mort> nothing wrong with my language
 you have been warned
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[16:01] <iconoclasthero> I have 3 machines inside a lan.  2 DHCP wireless laptops with hostnames of insprion and latitude, 1 static-ip wired desktop, hostname: compaq.  I can `ssh compaq` from all three.  I can `ssh inspiron` or `ssh latitude` from both laptops but not from compaq.
[16:02] <iconoclasthero> is there some way to get the desktop to find the hostnames of the laptops?
[16:03] <leftyfb> iconoclasthero: use a proper DNS server (probably your router)
[16:06] <iconoclasthero> how can i tell what DNS server each machine is using?
[16:07] <leftyfb> iconoclasthero: in the case of your 2 set to DHCP, that setting will be on your router
[16:08] <iconoclasthero> resolvconf says 192.168.1.1 for the laptops
[16:08] <iconoclasthero> and compaq reports: resolvconf: Error: Command not recognized
[16:08] <iconoclasthero> Usage: resolvconf (-d IFACE|-a IFACE|-u|--enable-updates|--disable-updates|--updates-are-enabled)
[16:08] <iconoclasthero> so it doesn't have a dns server setup
[16:08] <leftyfb> iconoclasthero: what release of ubuntu are you running on all 3?
[16:08] <iconoclasthero> 22.04 on the compaq and inspiron 22.10 on latitude
[16:09] <pragmaticenigma> iconoclasthero: that would mean your Internet gateway (Router or ISP Modem) is providing you with a cached DNS resolver. You would have to look up the configuration on that device to see what it is configured to use.
[16:09] <leftyfb> iconoclasthero: 22.10 is EOL
[16:09] <leftyfb> iconoclasthero: resolvectl status
[16:10] <iconoclasthero> i was going to wait until 24.04 to upgrade
[16:10] <iconoclasthero> last time i install a non-lts release
[16:10] <pragmaticenigma> iconoclasthero: to see what your home network is configured to use for DNS, you can try using something like https://www.dnsleaktest.com/ to identify what servers it believes are responding to your requests. However, it is not a 100% guarantee.
[16:10] <iconoclasthero> anyway, resolvectl status on which machine?
[16:11] <leftyfb> pragmaticenigma: that won't tell you what local resolver a client is using
[16:11] <leftyfb> iconoclasthero: all of them
[16:12] <pragmaticenigma> leftyfb: that isn't how I read their question. it felt like they are trying to find out what DNS provider they are using.
[16:12] <leftyfb> pragmaticenigma: they are having issues resolving local machines
[16:12] <leftyfb> public DNS doesn't come into play here
[16:13] <pragmaticenigma> i see, i guess i missed a part of their question
[16:13] <leftyfb> iconoclasthero: if you're using static on the "compaq", then you might not be using systemd-resolved. Check your network config and/or /etc/resolv.conf
[16:13] <iconoclasthero> https://pastebin.com/DMEsQCk5
[16:14] <leftyfb> the compaq is using what looks like an ipv6 nameserver
[16:14] <ruser> is there a utility that can wrap a script or a binary to limit number of outgoing http(s) request?
[16:14] <leftyfb> iconoclasthero: fix your network config on the compaq
[16:15] <iconoclasthero> ok, I can look this up, but what should i be looking for?  assigning a static IPv4 dns (192.168.1.1) to compaq?
[16:15] <leftyfb> ruser: https://superuser.com/questions/294609/how-to-throttle-http-requests-on-a-linux-machine   first result on google for "ubuntu limit http requests"
[16:16] <leftyfb> iconoclasthero: correct
[16:16] <iconoclasthero> thanks
[16:16] <iconoclasthero> and i assume there's no reason i can't do this from the command line?
[16:16] <iconoclasthero> the box is headless right now
[16:16] <leftyfb> iconoclasthero: correct
[16:16] <iconoclasthero> thanks again.
[16:16] <ruser> leftyfb: no accepted answer, lists ssh as circumvent conneciton limits, and config options for browsers.
[16:17] <leftyfb> ruser: keep reading
[16:17] <ruser> leftyfb:  are you hinting at iptables?
[16:17] <leftyfb> ruser: and 2 other tools mentioned
[16:18] <ruser> leftyfb:  i don't know if the answer exits, i dont' want to drop actual packet, but queue requests.   tc and trickle?
[16:19] <leftyfb> ruser: those are the 2 mentioned other than iptables
[16:25] <iconoclasthero> leftyfb, i got it to work with a line in /etc/resolv.conf so i just need to add that perminantly
[16:25] <iconoclasthero> thanks again
[16:30] <ruser> leftyfb:  unless i'm reading wrong trickle seems to either limit  up/down speed, and prioritize certain traffic over other traffic.  tc might be a closer match, i guess i need to read this a little more careful, the bucket tocken algo strikes a chord with me.    thought it still seems not quite what i'm after. At any rate, thank you.  I was clearly using wrong search words/search engine
[16:33] <ruser> looks like it's just easier for me to implement my own in the script.  thanks
[16:39] <webchat84> Hi
[16:45] <NetEcho> Hey folks I'm having a strange issue and am unsure of how to troubleshoot it. I have a 1.5 gigabit connection in which I am able to max out my 1gb card on this PC no problem but for some reason my ubuntu server is only getting 90mbit and all I did was move the server from my old house to my new house
[16:48] <gordonjcp> NetEcho: that's probably more down to connectivity than anything else
[16:48] <NetEcho> bad patch cable maybe?
[16:48] <gordonjcp> probably more between you and your server
[16:48] <gordonjcp> like, how are you testing this
[16:49] <NetEcho> speedtest-cli
[16:49] <NetEcho> and my usenet downloads are crawling
[16:49] <NetEcho> I run speedtest-cli on this system and get 970ish mbit down 50 up and the server is only getting 90 down 50 up
[16:53] <NetEcho> the only changes since the move are a new faster modem and I bought a new short Cat6A cord for the server since the cord I have is 50' long but the server is right next to the modem now
[16:54] <NetEcho> oh strange a reboot seems to have fixed it
[17:14] <untre> are you people criminal hackers?
[17:14] <tarzeau> untre: why should we?
[17:14] <ripple> nobody likes getting hacked and nobody likes hackers
[17:14] <tarzeau> except nethack'ers
[17:15] <oerheks> !hacker
[17:15] <tarzeau> dict has way more definitions of hacker
[17:16] <oerheks> nobody would answer yes, to an unregistered user 🤣
[17:16] <leftyfb> untre: this is an ubuntu support channel. What can we help you with?
[17:17] <tarzeau> oerheks: even if someone did. there's no prove?
[17:17] <tarzeau> just confessing anything, doesn't mean anything. except it is a lie
[17:18] <ripple> nobody likes getting cracked and nobody likes crackers
[17:18] <tarzeau> polly wants a cracker. ripple my definition of cracks are unlimited life hacked into binary only games. (cracks are also when commercial software can be run by breaking the copy protection)
[17:19] <leftyfb> !ot
[17:19] <tarzeau> can i get support in here about ubuntu discourse?
[17:56] <untre> do yall pick up chicks in here?
[17:57] <leftyfb> !ot | untre
[17:58] <untre> ill take that as no
[17:58] <leftyfb> untre: trolling is offtopic here. Take it elsewhere
[18:01] <oerheks> leftyfb, about that recent install issue; libsqlite3-0-dbgsym
[18:01] <oerheks> can aptitude mess up?
[18:01] <leftyfb> yes
[18:02] <leftyfb> it's been known to cause problems
[18:02] <oerheks> we had no answer to that, if he used aptitude
[18:48] <aiena> I am on ubuntu 22.04 what is the correct way to enable the hibernate option so I can suspend to disk and poweroff
[18:52] <aiena> guess cant do it with secure boot on
[19:22] <zphinx> hi, im using a mechanical keyboard named xtrfy k5, for some reason when i boot into the installation process of ubuntu i get the problem that after about five written characters the last character gets repeated into eternity
[19:22] <zphinx> like zphinnnnnnnnnnnnnnn... etc, you get the idea
[20:33] <jhutchins> zphinx: Have you verified the checksum of the image you downloaded?
[20:45] <zofrex> anyone know why my autoinstall / user-data script isn't working? the installer loads the UI instead of auto installing (Ubuntu Server 23.04). Using a pre-existing user-data file does work, so I know I'm bootstrapping it correctly. I've uploaded the file and all the logs here: https://gist.github.com/zofrex/ad56297898df10ea35f2487397d085b2
[20:45] <webchat48> Hi I keep on getting /dev/nvme0n1p5: clean, 217274/5914624 files, 2911178/23639552 blocks. I am using a intel i9 and Nvidia 3060. I am dual booting Ubuntu with Windows 11
[20:46] <zofrex> if not why it's working, I'd also appreciate any tips on debugging this process, I haven't been able to find any useful clues in the logs
[20:50] <yates_work> is there a way to install libdrm-intel with a version later than my current ubuntu version into a container?
[20:50] <yates_work> i need libdrm-intel >= 2.4.110
[20:50] <leftyfb> !latest | yates_work
[20:52] <leftyfb> yates_work: ubuntu 22.04 has the version you're looking for
[20:52] <yates_work> leftyfb: if i install in a container it shouldn't impact my current system
[20:52] <yates_work> ok thanks
[20:52] <leftyfb> yates_work: correct
[20:53] <yates_work> i am inexperienced with containers - what could i use to do that?
[20:53] <yates_work> i'm using nix for other dependencies, but it doesn't have the libdrm-intel package
[20:54] <leftyfb> yates_work: mind you, installing it in a container will not allow packages on your host to interact/utilize the library
[20:55] <yates_work> i guess i am wishing and hoping that is not an issue since my task is building mesa, not actually running anything
[20:56] <yates_work> the mesa build may just need the headers/libraries to link to
[20:56] <leftyfb> yates_work: what release of ubuntu are you running?
[20:56] <yates_work> 18.04
[20:57] <leftyfb> time to upgrade
[20:57] <yates_work> yeah, this is an unproductive suggestion in my case.
[20:57] <yates_work> i am hamstrung by management to stay on this version for now
[20:58] <yates_work> they have all sorts of crap (e.g., jumpcloud) installed on our systems
[20:58] <leftyfb> yates_work: then you'll have to tell management to pay for commercial support from Canonical
[21:00] <yates_work> maybe i can install 22.04 in a virtual machine
[21:00] <leftyfb> yates_work: https://ubuntu.com/lxd/install
[21:02] <yates_work> maybe i'll try that. thanks for your help, leftyfb
[21:17] <SrPx> I've just installed Ubuntu in a brand new PC, with an external MTK WiFi USB. For some reason the internet isn't working / recognized though. I can't install anything because I don't have internet. Is there any alternative way to access the internet and make it work? I don't have cables. Perhaps I can pass the internet of my iPhone / Macbook / Windows Notebook to it somehow? Or install some driver using an USB stick somehow?
[21:18] <tag_> For some reason, I can no longer log in using a GDM, it just freezes
[21:35] <zphinx> jhutchins: this has nothing to do with the checksum of the image, its something that has occured over multiple distros ive tested
[21:39] <untre> is anyone else being harassed via pm by some chinese guy?
[21:39] <untre> Mr Chan Serv
[21:40] <leftyfb> !op | untre
[21:41] <untre> everytime i join  this channel i get pmed by him
[21:41] <leftyfb> untre: complain in #libera
[21:41] <Unit193> leftyfb: Ubuntu ops set up the entrymsg, not Libera.
[21:42] <Unit193> untre: Channel services are informing you of the guidelines and policy for using this channel, that's all.
[21:42] <untre> ok thought it might be a chinese hacker or something
[21:43] <leftyfb> untre: this is an ubuntu support channel. Please stay on topic
[23:03] <loswedseded> I deleted a file I need back. I moved it to the trash and then deleted it from the trash. Can I recover it?
[23:04] <sarnold> maybe; a lot of people report success with photorec
[23:05] <loswedseded> does photorec only work with pictures?
[23:05] <loswedseded> sudo apt install testdisk?
[23:06] <sarnold> photorec works with way more than pictures; the risk of course is installing it on the same disk where you're trying to recover something might just overwrite the data you're trying to find
[23:06] <sarnold> you could use another computer and attach the disk using a dongle of some sort, or you could use a live instance like grml
[23:07] <loswedseded> I have no other options: my main drive is not partitioned and I don't have a different OS I can use
[23:07] <ravage> boot a live system like https://grml.org/ . install photorec there and recover the file
[23:07] <ravage> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/photorec-recover-deleted-files-in-linux-ubuntu or any other tutorial about it should do
[23:08] <sarnold> ravage: awesome
[23:08] <ravage> loswedseded: but you should even do that download on another device. saving the iso could destroy the file you want to recover
[23:11] <loswedseded> ravage, does it still work if I download it to a different SSD I use just to store data? I access this ssd from my main drive, where I installed ubuntu
[23:11] <ravage> that should be fine
[23:11] <ravage> just avoid any write to the drive you want to recover data from
[23:12] <loswedseded> thank you
[23:12] <loswedseded> sarnold, ravage ^
[23:12] <ravage> good luck :)
[23:13] <sarnold> :)
[23:14] <loswedseded> I dont need the full iso, do I?
[23:14] <ravage> the small one should do
[23:15] <loswedseded> incidentally, how do I nuke a system? I mean wipe completely all data
[23:16] <ravage> the tool "shred" is an option if you need to overwrite the data
[23:16] <ravage> if you just want to clean the partitions there is wipefs
[23:17] <sarnold> dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/whatreverblockdevice can do the trick; if you have to do it all the time, there's a dban disk image -- "derek's boot and nuke" I think? -- that'll do something similar immediately after booting
[23:17] <ravage> if you are on a SSD there is also the option to just change the internal encryption key. that makes everything unreadable
[23:18] <loswedseded> ravage, true
[23:18] <ravage> something like https://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/Perform_a_SSD_Secure_Erase
[23:19] <ravage> maybe there are better tools these days
[23:19] <loswedseded> sarnold, the command you wrote, will it wipe the whole partition? what does it do exactly? overwrite several times?
[23:19] <sarnold> loswedseded: it'll wipe a partition or disk, depending upon what block device file you give it
[23:19] <sarnold> loswedseded: it'll overwrite it once with random junk
[23:20] <sarnold> loswedseded: (don't use /dev/zero, a lot of devices will optimize away zeros and won't actually overwrite anything)
[23:20] <loswedseded> sarnold, how long will it take to wipe a 1tb ssd?
[23:20] <ravage> for an ssd really just to the secure erase
[23:20] <ravage> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Solid_state_drive/Memory_cell_clearing also has some options for nvmes
[23:21] <elias_a> loswedseded: I've been using this for decades: https://dban.org/
[23:22] <sarnold> loswedseded: it'll depend on both the speed of your CPU and your SSD; my laptop appears to generate around 120 MB/s of random (which is honestly six times faster than I expected) -- so, one gigabyte per ten seconds, so twenty minutes-ish?
[23:23] <sarnold> loswedseded: ravage's links on secure erase tricks are pretty good if your disk supports them. a lot of drives won't actually clear themselves though :( -- if it were me, I'd do the dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/whatever  before issuing these commands (which I realize misses the point of these commands, but I don't trust the drive makers)
[23:23] <willyg_cos> If you CAN just change the encryption key, it's a lot faster and doesn't count against the write cycles of the SSD as much
[23:23] <elias_a> Although this is offtopic 1TB disk takes at least hours to be wiped well - be it SSD or in the case of HDD it takes longer.
[23:24] <loswedseded> true that
[23:24] <loswedseded> encription keys
[23:24] <elias_a> Forensic methods are quite good nowadays. But this is a risk dependent question.
[23:26] <elias_a> If you are about to sell a HDD I'd say minimum 4 passes of writing random data is desirable if the disk contains sensible data.
[23:27] <ravage> my approach is to start with a luks encrypted hdd :)
[23:27] <loswedseded> good one, you buy a ssd, you luks it
[23:27] <elias_a> On the other hand, if you keep the disk yourself - why bother? If someone can low level access your disk you have lost the game already.
[23:31] <jeremy31> This might belong more in #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:32] <Eickmeyer> #ubuntu-offtopic because it's not necessarily Ubuntu.