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[15:50] <aaron50> I had my machine just fine and it upgraded to xbuntu and crashed.  It has locked me out and will not let me get to the splash screen.  it tells me that the certificate is not a match or something?
[15:53] <diogenes_Vx15> aaron50, what do you mean "upgraded to Xubuntu"? to a new version you mean?
[15:53] <aaron50> that's what the splash creen had on it when I poeresd down
[15:54] <aaron50> 22.06
[15:54] <aaron50> this is the second time it has done it
[15:55] <diogenes_Vx15> 22.04 you mean, so it was 22.04 and you just updated the system?
[15:56] <aaron50> I started with 22.03  Im on my recovery usb now
[15:56] <tomreyn> there's no 22.03 or 22.06
[15:57] <diogenes_Vx15> exactly, there might be 22.04.xx something.
[15:57] <aaron50> the first time that's whart it is.  excuse me
[15:57] <aaron50> now.  there was a security upgrade?
[16:00] <aaron50> file:///media/ubuntu/c86c02ff-ad7e-4e38-b320-a3832b4c3569 is the drive it's on.  I saw the xbuntu splash screen when powering down and then it only boots to a command line and says that all the repos are invalid
[16:03] <diogenes_> aaron50: i suggest you boot the system and as soon as you reach grub menu, press 'e', find the line that starts with Linux, find these lines: quiet splash, remove them and press Ctrl+x, it will boot verbose and when it's stuck, make a picture and make sure the text is readable, then show us the picture, upload it to imgur and share the url
[16:03] <aaron50> yeah
[17:56] <v45> does anyone know about how long it takes to get sudo update/software updater to get the 22.04.3 update? days? weeks?
[17:58] <jwv3> does anyone know about how long it takes to get sudo update/software updater to get the 22.04.3 update? days? weeks?
[18:20] <tomreyn> jwv3: usually, a readily installed system which receives regular updates will actually show the new version before the official release.
[18:21] <tomreyn> if that's what you have but it still says 22.04.2, look for any error messages or warnings when running   sudi apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[18:22] <tomreyn> sudi -> sudo
[18:24] <jwv3> i do receive regular updates, but i haven't seen the update for 04.3 yet. i just didn't know if there was a delay from xubuntu. i know they're .iso is .04.3.
[18:33] <jwv3> home@pcg35-00:~$ lsb_release -a; uname -a
[18:33] <jwv3> No LSB modules are available.
[18:33] <jwv3> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[18:33] <jwv3> Description:	Ubuntu 22.04 LTS
[18:33] <jwv3> Release:	22.04
[18:33] <jwv3> Codename:	jammy
[18:37] <jwv3> ah - i think i set my updates wrong. i was subscribed to only security updates, not all updates. i'm testing that now.
[18:43] <tomreyn> jwv3: apt policy   should tell what you 'subscribed to' / which apt sources you have configured.
[18:44] <tomreyn> or, better yet:    sudo grep -hEv '^([ ]*#.*)?$' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list} |& nc termbin.com 9999
[18:44] <jwv3> now that i changed the what i was subscribe to, i ran the updates. but this seems weird. my version updated to 22.04.3, but my kernel didn't update to 6.2
[18:44] -jwv3:#xubuntu- home@pcg35-00:~$ lsb_release -a; uname -a
[18:45] <tomreyn> no channel notices please
[18:46] <tomreyn> use a pastebin to share multi-line output, as I think ubottu must have told you by now
[18:47] <tomreyn> you'll be unmuted in a minute
[18:48] <jwv3> is it weird that i just did my update to 22.04.3 but my kernel didn't update? Description: Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS, but it also says 5.15.0-78-generic 
[18:49] <tomreyn> install linux-generic-hwe-22.04
[18:50] <jwv3> i have many computers to do this to. this was just my tester, i'm going to have to do this to al, correct?
[18:50] <tomreyn> you don't have to, i think, the old kernel should continue to be supported
[18:51] <jwv3> i do want the newer kernel. that was part of wanting to upgrade.
[18:51] <tomreyn> so far you seem to have the GA kernel, if you want a newer one, you'll need to switch to HWE: https://gist.github.com/tomreyn/8d7675840d7bc7389b32e4d8887ca449
[18:54] <tomreyn> i'd be more worried about not having received most security updates for the past 1.5 years
[18:55] <jwv3> i don't run these online. i'm only running this one online to update.
[18:55] <jwv3> i thought the new .3 update was going to update the generic kernel as well.
[18:56] <tomreyn> .4 did so for 18.04
[18:56] <tomreyn> not sure about 20.04 and 22.04
[18:57] <jwv3> everything i was reading was 22.04.3 was going to include kernel 6.2. i didn't think my kernel was going to stay behind to 5.15...
[18:58] <jwv3> Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS Released with Linux 6.2 Kernel and Mesa 23.0 Graphics Stacks
[18:58] <tomreyn> !info linux-generic jammy
[18:58] <ubottu> linux-generic (5.15.0.78.75, jammy): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Built by linux-meta. Size 2 kB / 20 kB. (Only available for amd64, armhf, arm64, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x.)
[18:59] <tomreyn> !info linux-generic-hwe-22.04 jammy
[18:59] <ubottu> linux-generic-hwe-22.04 (6.2.0.26.26~22.04.7, jammy): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Built by linux-meta-hwe-6.2. Size 2 kB / 21 kB. (Only available for amd64, armhf, arm64, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x.)
[18:59] <tomreyn> that's right, if you would do a fresh install of 22.04 now, you'd receive the HWE kernel, i think
[19:00] <tomreyn> but since you installed earlier, from 22.04.0 or .1, i assume, you have the GA kernel
[19:00] <tomreyn> i.e. you'll have linux-generic installed
[19:00] <jwv3> linux-image-generic/jammy-security,jammy-updates,now 5.15.0.78.75 amd64 [installed,automatic]
[19:00] <jwv3> yup
[19:01] <jwv3> alright. this was good information. thank you.
[19:02] <tomreyn> read the github link i posted above if you'd like to better understand how those variants come together
[19:02] <tomreyn> also the links to ubuntu.com from there
[19:02] <jwv3> i did. that's where i got the command to check what i was using. thank you.
[19:02] <tomreyn> you're welcome 
[19:05] <tomreyn> jwv3: so "How do I switch from the GA to the HWE stack?" https://gist.github.com/tomreyn/8d7675840d7bc7389b32e4d8887ca449#how-do-i-switch-from-the-ga-to-the-hwe-stack is what you'll want to do on all systems then,
[19:05] <tomreyn> based on "i want the newer kernel"
[19:15] <jwv3> yes. i understand it now. i wish i would have a few years ago.
[19:15] <jwv3> thanks again
[19:16] <tomreyn> these details have actually changed a little during the past decade, i think starting with 18.04
[19:16] <tomreyn> and it wasn't so obvious unless unless you followed development closely
[19:16] <jwv3> that might have been when i starting using ubuntu/xubuntu.
[19:16] <jwv3> and i didn't.
[19:17] <tomreyn> most people don't, and that should be fine.
[19:19] <jwv3> would have helped me for the last few years. i'm constantly testing new mini pcs and have to adjust kernels sometimes. knowing i had the newest release kernel when i thought i did on new point versions would have helped.
[19:19] <tomreyn> there is the ubuntu announcement mailing list you may want to subscribe to, but i'm not even sure it was discussed there
[19:19] <tomreyn> i see how that'd be desirable, yes
[19:20] <jwv3> i might have to subscribe to that.