[00:05] <loswedseded> I thought sudo made me root
[00:05] <loswedseded> apparently not, how do I become root?
[00:06] <noobie519> sudo -i
[00:06] <noobie519> is what i usually do.. i am just a novice though, maybe wait for an expert
[00:06] <oerheks> for a root session, yes
[00:07] <loswedseded> so, sudo -i thunar?
[00:07] <oerheks> no
[00:07] <noobie519> sudo -i opens a root shell
[00:07] <noobie519> elevated shell
[00:07] <oerheks> sudo -i # enter
[00:07] <oerheks> then thunar ..
[00:08] <loswedseded> thanks
[00:08] <cnnx> whats type of program would benefit from a 60GB ram disk? I have s spare 2700x amd computer with 64gb dr4 doing nothing under my desk
[00:08] <oerheks> or use a thunar plugin https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/custom-actions
[00:08] <jeremy31> Maybe pkexec thunar
[00:08] <oerheks> cnnx, ubuntu takes ~ 20 gb, have fun
[00:09] <cnnx> oerheks: how can I load the whole OS on it
[00:09] <oerheks> or play with ubuntu server?
[00:09] <oerheks> cnnx, just boot the iso and install?
[00:10] <cnnx> I thought about hosting differnt services but its my home line and i work from home for a company
[00:10] <cnnx> so im not sure about offering server services
[00:10] <cnnx> oerheks: I would have to create the ram disk at the shelel first
[00:10] <cnnx> shell
[00:10] <oerheks> put the iso on usb?
[00:10] <oerheks> !usb
[00:10] <cnnx> cool
[00:11] <cnnx> then all i NEED is a fairly large UPS
[00:11] <cnnx> so if power goes out i dont lose data
[00:11] <cnnx> can we tell the difference in speed from ssd and RAM these days?
[00:12] <loswedseded> why can't i delete a snap directory with thunar as root?
[00:12] <loswedseded> I should be able...
[00:12] <cnnx> tried apt-get remove?
[00:12] <loswedseded> apt get is for apt
[00:12] <cnnx> ok snap is snaap
[00:12] <cnnx> you're right
[00:13] <oerheks> ubuntu uses some snaps as core..
[00:13] <oerheks> so, good luck
[00:13] <cnnx> snap is just another package manager?
[00:13] <loswedseded> yt-dlp as core... not probable
[00:13] <oerheks> snap list # gives all snaps
[00:13] <loswedseded> installed or available?
[00:13] <cnnx> so like an overlay, kind of like installing bluestacks on windows
[00:14] <oerheks> try it
[00:14] <cnnx> im on mac
[00:17] <noobie519> hey jkc , thanks for name calling and then turning on +g mode so you can't hear me ask why?  You aren't cool, you're a coward and a bully towards novice users.
[00:17] <noobie519> He's sending unsolicited DM's, btw
[00:18] <oerheks> noobie519, join #ubuntu-ops for that
[00:18] <oerheks> or use /ignore
[01:42] <jhutchins> Yeah, /ignore is the right response.  There's no winning an online pissing contest.
[01:43] <oerheks> sorted out in #libera, he ranted in multiple channels, it did not happen here
[02:36] <Square> How dependent is steam on Gnome?
[02:36] <Square> "Steam".
[02:37] <Square> I was wondering if I should install I3. Maybe side by side?
[02:40] <Square> Oh, i3 is x11. That's not too appealing
[02:41] <Square> Really I would like to try out "Sway". Above blabber would be to prepare for that.
[02:42] <lotuspsychje> Square: think you maybe like more #ubuntu-discuss to chitchat about de's ?
[02:42] <Square> ok
[05:50] <webchat40> Hey, how do I use the pinch to zoom feature on ubuntu, and I would like it to be as seamless as the Windows pinch to zoom.
[05:50] <webchat40> I tried using fusuma and Ctrl + two finger silde, but it is not that great.
[06:07] <oerheks> webchat40, this page might be your help too https://wiringbits.net/accessibility/2022/12/05/macos-like-pinch-to-zoom-on-ubuntu-22-04.html
[06:09] <oerheks> and for browsers https://devicetests.com/enable-pinch-zoom-browsers-ubuntu-wayland
[06:29] <webchat40> Thank you oerheks, it will really help.
[06:29] <webchat40> I also had a doubt regarding application installation.
[06:29] <webchat40> I tried installing PyCharm
[06:30] <webchat40> I downloaded the file from the official website
[06:30] <webchat40> and executed the pycharm.sh file in the bin folder
[06:31] <webchat40> but, it looks like everytime I want to use pycharm, I need to go to the folder to which I have extracted the files and then to the bin folder and then execute the same file
[06:33] <oerheks> oh, there are 3 pycharm versions in softwarecenter
[06:33] <oerheks> community, professional and edu
[06:33] <oerheks> https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-pycharm-on-ubuntu-20-04-linux-desktop
[06:34] <oerheks> also for 22.04 and up
[06:35] <webchat40> Oh okay, but say I need to download an application through the web by extracting it and so on, is there anything that specifically has to be done to create such a shortcut?
[06:40] <webchat40> By the way, really appreciate your help oerheks. Thank you.
[06:40] <oerheks> if you know the location, there is a simple app for that https://snapcraft.io/install/make-launcher/ubuntu
[06:41] <oerheks> or manually; https://askubuntu.com/questions/1428517/how-do-i-create-a-new-application-launcher-in-ubuntu-22-04
[06:42] <webchat40> Thanks, I also tried to create a "link" to the .sh file and then put it on the desktop
[06:42] <webchat40> It runs fine, until I power off
[06:43] <oerheks> that should work too.
[06:43] <oerheks> have fun!
[06:43] <webchat40> Once I turn off the laptop and then turn it on, then it does not work
[06:43] <webchat40> It says something like link is broken
[06:45] <webchat40> I don't know if it is a conflict between my two OS's.
[06:45] <oerheks> i think you should extract such manual programs to /opt/, the place for undefined programms
[06:45] <oerheks> basicly
[06:45] <webchat40> oh, I'll try
[06:46] <webchat40> And then again create a link?
[06:47] <oerheks> yes :-)
[06:47] <webchat40> okay, thank you
[07:53] <kerxphilox> Any suggestions on how to configure and start vino-server (the ubuntu vnc server) from the CLI?
[08:58] <tarel2> I used Ubuntu to set up my system and it make grub menu that has Ubuntu as the first and then it has Gentoo ,but the grub config file looks pretty bare ,  Where is the real menu file ? The one that says  Ubuntu as first and then Gentoo
[08:59] <Snuupy> hmm, strange - I think I have both nmcli and netplan active and they keep overwriting each other.
[09:00] <Snuupy> I thought the default networking behavior of ubuntu was to prioritize ethernet over wifi
[09:00] <Snuupy> for some reason, after some time it will revert back to the wifi connection and I have to manually "netplan apply" every time
[09:00] <Snuupy> what's going on?
[09:01] <Snuupy> should I be using networkmanager or netplan for ubuntu server?
[09:08] <Snuupy> maybe I can just apt remove network-manager
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> Snuupy: you can visit #ubuntu-server if you like for deeper netplan questions
[09:24] <Snuupy> thanks lotuspsychje
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> Snuupy: as its sunday today, things might be a bit slower
[09:24] <Mechanismus> ugh ufw is driving me batty
[09:25] <Snuupy> I don't think I have deeper netplan questions, my netplan config works and is simple - just use dhcp on the ethernet interface and a wlan connection on the wireless interface
[09:25] <Snuupy> I think networkmanager for some reason was also installed and I just had to remove it
[09:25] <Snuupy> I'll see in a few hours or a day if it's still messed up
[11:11] <mko_> anyone used this tool https://github.com/a13xp0p0v/kconfig-hardened-check/, should I trust it?
[11:54] <drzacek> Hello there.
[11:55] <drzacek> noob *buntu user here, hello. I have a question: I just installed my system and when setting it up, I encountered stuff like "snap", "flatpak" and "appimage".
[11:55] <drzacek> So I understand those are different ways of distributing software independently from apt or other distro package managers
[11:56] <drzacek> anyways, so my question is - how can I put those appimages (and other programs/scripts, like the one I wrote myself) to the runners (alt+f2 menu)?
[11:56] <drzacek> in console it's easy, I either modify the PATH or put the programs to directory that already is in PATH, but with those GUI runners? Not sure where they look for things
[12:30] <xbox> hi
[12:31] <xbox> hi
[12:33] <xbox> hi
[12:35] <terminaldweller> xbox: hello
[12:36] <xbox> hello
[12:37] <terminaldweller> how can we help you xbox? :)
[12:39] <xbox> my system is broken please help me
[12:40] <terminaldweller> this is a support channel. that's what this is for. but we're going to need more info than your system being broken. ;)
[12:41] <terminaldweller> explain exactly how it is broken. if you have logs, put in them in a pastebin and link that here. someone will get back to you.
[12:43] <xbox> i accidentally deleted my flash
[12:45] <terminaldweller> your flash? you mean the MB flash?
[12:46] <xbox> with main system now get error e79
[12:47] <xbox> and sometimes green light but no screeb
[12:48] <xbox> screen
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> xbox: can you still enter your ubuntu's grub at boot?
[12:51] <xbox> throught xell reloaded
[12:53] <vcxza> hello, which is the easier way to share a directory on my ubuntu os with a windows machine on line?
[12:53] <vcxza> (the easiest)
[12:54] <vcxza> hello, which is the easiest (few or 0 configuration stuff) way to share a directory on my ubuntu os with a windows machine on LAN?
[12:54] <terminaldweller> python -m http.server?
[12:56] <vcxza> terminaldweller: I need that the windows machine can upload files to the linux dir
[13:01] <terminaldweller> i've only done that with windows with samba. its not zero config but if you've done it before its fairly straightforward. i dont have a better option. sorry.
[13:02] <vcxza> terminaldweller: yeah, I was thinking on samba, but it's config is pretty awkward
[13:02] <xbox> goodbye
[13:19] <linux> Hi
[13:45] <jhutchins> terminaldweller: It can be done with NFS, but at least the older versions have user ID and file owner issues.
[14:21] <vcxza>  hello, which is the easier way to share a directory on my ubuntu os with a windows machine on line? Samba installation is ugly and buggy, is there an alternative?
[14:22] <jhutchins> vcxza: It can be done with NFS, but at least the older versions have user ID and file owner issues.
[14:22] <jhutchins> vcxza: Samba is the way to do it.  I've never had troubles with bugs.
[14:22] <leftyfb> vcxza: cifs is the easiest and fastest way
[14:23] <wkmango> Samba for sure. Gnome has the webdav stuff by default if you want to try that too
[14:23] <vcxza> leftyfb: I'm using lubunt
[14:23] <vcxza> lubuntu
[14:23] <leftyfb> vcxza: irrelevant
[14:23] <vcxza> leftyfb: which GUI app can I use to set a shared dir?
[14:25] <leftyfb> vcxza: I don't know. I don't use the GUI for such things
[14:25] <vcxza> leftyfb: does cifs use samba?
[14:26] <leftyfb> CIFS is the successor protocol to SMB
[14:26] <vcxza> leftyfb: so, I have basically to do "mount cifs somedir" ?
[14:27] <leftyfb> vcxza: I thought you were trying to share a directory on ubuntu with Windows
[14:28] <vcxza> leftyfb: yes
[14:28] <vcxza> so, which command do I have to execute for sharing it?
[14:28] <leftyfb> vcxza: https://mirrormirage0.medium.com/make-a-folder-on-lubuntu-18-04-accessible-on-windows-machine-local-network-bc180ea9a2d5
[14:29] <leftyfb> vcxza: https://www.fosslinux.com/111128/how-to-create-shared-folders-on-ubuntu-for-windows-users.htm  this is the first result on google for "ubuntu share directory with windows"
[14:31] <vcxza> leftyfb: they are buggy and outdated guides. I tried the samba method and it throws "permission denied" errors
[14:32] <leftyfb> vcxza: they are not buggy or outdated guides. The 2nd link I gave you is from 4 months ago
[14:32] <leftyfb> vcxza: if you are getting permission denied errors, then something is wrong and you need to troubleshoot
[14:32] <vcxza> leftyfb: let's try again samba
[14:33] <leftyfb> vcxza: also, what version of Windows?
[14:33] <vcxza> leftyfb: I think 10
[14:33] <leftyfb> you might want to verify that, it matters
[14:37] <vcxza> leftyfb: the problem is: which samba client can I use on ubuntu, in order to test it?
[14:37] <leftyfb> vcxza: mount -t cifs
[14:38] <vcxza> ?
[14:38] <vcxza> leftyfb: mount -t cifs mysharedfolder ?
[14:38] <leftyfb> vcxza: try following the tutorials I gave you
[14:39] <vcxza> leftyfb: I followed the second tutorial. It simply says to restart samba
[14:39] <vcxza> nothing more (after editing smb.conf)
[14:39] <leftyfb> and did you do that?
[14:41] <leftyfb> vcxza: https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-mount-cifs-windows-share-on-linux/
[14:41] <vcxza> yes. then I tried to launch konqueror (which has samba support) with this address  smb://myuser@192.168.191.25/
[14:41] <vcxza> I see the shared dir, but I get stucked on "enter password"
[14:42] <leftyfb> enter your password
[14:42] <vcxza> samba password or user password?
[14:42] <leftyfb> did you set a "samba password"?
[14:43] <vcxza> no. and I tried with the user password. no luck
[14:43] <leftyfb> what do your logs say?
[14:44] <vcxza> samba log?
[14:44] <leftyfb> of course
[14:45] <wkmango> you can't skip the samba password
[14:45] <wkmango> Unless you've done some extra work, the default is you have to set a separate samba password for the user
[14:45] <leftyfb> wkmango: that is not true
[14:45] <vcxza> cat /var/log/samba/log.192.168.191.25  <--- empty file
[14:46] <vcxza> as I said before, this  is a NIGHTMARE. It doesn't work as quickly as it's intended
[14:46] <vcxza> and I remember I have similar issues in the past
[14:46] <leftyfb> vcxza: can you post your smb.conf file?
[14:46] <leftyfb> pastebin
[14:46] <wkmango> ok, but the guide that you shared specifies it
[14:47] <wkmango> why go the complicated route? just set a password
[14:47] <leftyfb> wkmango: the first guide does, the 2nd doesn't. It's easier to just use the already existing credentials of the linux user
[14:48] <vcxza> leftyfb: https://bpa.st/DNLQ
[14:48] <vcxza> leftyfb: I really thank you for your help. but I'm pretty sure that samba on linux is awkward
[14:48] <vcxza> it's totally random
[14:49] <leftyfb> it is awkward, but it's not "totally random"
[14:49] <wkmango> vcxza, there are plugins for it on most file managers, not sure about lxqt
[14:49] <wkmango> And the config file is pretty easy if you have a sample shared drive config
[14:50] <vcxza> I dunno how to go out this hell
[14:50] <leftyfb> vcxza: give me a moment
[14:50] <vcxza> thanks leftyfb
[14:51] <wkmango> sometimes, I use 'smb4k' gui to check and mount drives
[14:51] <vcxza> wkmango: let's try it
[14:51] <wkmango> you don't need to use that, but since you said Koqueror, do you have Dolphin plugins on that?
[14:52] <wkmango> I'm not sure the difference between Konqueror and Dolphin on Lubuntu
[14:52] <leftyfb> wkmango: vcxza: it doesn't matter what client you're attempting to use if the server isn't setup properly
[14:52] <wkmango> but Dolphin has a plugin to share samba.. "right click, properties, shares"
[14:52] <vcxza> leftyfb: in any case, I just tried smb4k and it's stuck on the password as well
[14:53] <vcxza> should I set a samba password for my user?
[14:53] <leftyfb> vcxza: right, that's not an issue with the client
[14:53] <leftyfb> no
[14:53] <leftyfb> just hold on
[14:53] <vcxza> I also disabled uwf
[14:53] <vcxza> ufw
[14:54] <leftyfb> not if we're just testing locally and it's asking you for a password
[14:54] <wkmango> look at all the wikis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/SambaServerGuide
[14:54] <leftyfb> but if you can't even see the shares from Windows and it doesn't ask for a password, then yes
[14:54] <wkmango> https://wiki.debian.org/Samba/ServerSimple
[14:54] <wkmango> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Samba
[14:54] <vcxza> leftyfb: I see the shares
[14:55] <wkmango> Ubuntu/Debian/Arch, all say to setup a password
[14:55] <leftyfb> wkmango: your first link: last edited 2014-11-19 00:01:16 by foka)
[14:55] <wkmango> user is stuck on password
[14:55] <leftyfb> this isn't arch
[14:55] <wkmango> Hmm... what could it be?
[14:55] <leftyfb> you don't need a smbpassword
[14:55] <leftyfb> jsut stop
[14:57] <vcxza> I well remember these issues in the past. That's why I asked for something different than samba
[14:57] <vcxza> I suspect they are related to lubuntu
[14:58] <leftyfb> vcxza: do you care about it being password protected?
[14:58] <vcxza> leftyfb: yes
[14:58] <leftyfb> ok, please wait
[14:59] <vcxza> thanks again leftyfb
[14:59] <leftyfb> vcxza: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/SZKXC67zDM/
[14:59] <leftyfb> btw, you can remove/comment out the [printers] and [print$] section if you're not going to be running your own print server from it
[15:01] <leftyfb> vcxza: you'll need to restart smbd
[15:01] <vcxza> leftyfb: done. the issue remain
[15:02] <leftyfb> vcxza: there should definitely be a log in /var/log/samba
[15:03] <leftyfb> vcxza: it might be log.localhost
[15:03] <vcxza> leftyfb: https://bpa.st/FMFA
[15:04] <Guest93> Hi! I have 2 issues with SSD:
[15:04] <Guest93> Sometimes OS crashes with text like this:
[15:04] <Guest93> ```
[15:04] <Guest93> [16792.130797] EXT4-fs error (device nvmeon1p10): __ext4_find_entry:1663: inode #1438998: comm systemd: reading directory lblock 0
[15:04] <Guest93> [16792.131601] systemd-journald [305]: Failed to rotate /var/log/journal/0e809b9a94e049f6a9f2b648e8b538c6/system.journal: Read-only file system
[15:04] <Guest93> [16792.131739] systemd-journald [305]: Failed to rotate /var/log/journal/0e809b9a94e049f6a9f2b648e8b538c6/user-1000.journal: Read-only file system [16792.131968] systemd-journald [305]: Failed to write entry (29 items, 766 bytes), ignoring: Input/output error
[15:04] <leftyfb> !paste | Guest93
[15:05] <leftyfb> Guest93: you have a corrupt filesystem. run fsck on it to repair. Maybe run "dmesg" to see if you have errors on your drive, it could also be a corrupt drive
[15:05] <vcxza> leftyfb: I give up. I'm searching for an alternative, as said at beginning
[15:06] <vcxza> samba support on ubuntu is simply broken
[15:06] <leftyfb> it's not
[15:06] <leftyfb> vcxza: do you want my help or not?
[15:06] <vcxza> leftyfb: yeah, of course
[15:07] <leftyfb> vcxza: under the [sharedfolder] section, add:  force user = paolo
[15:09] <vcxza> leftyfb: the error remains
[15:09] <leftyfb> vcxza: grep password /var/log/samba/*
[15:10] <vcxza> grep: /var/log/samba/cores: Is a directory
[15:11] <leftyfb> that's the only line you get?
[15:11] <vcxza> yes
[15:11] <leftyfb> how have you been restarting smbd?
[15:11] <vcxza> sudo service smbd restart
[15:12] <leftyfb> what version of ubuntu is this?
[15:12] <vcxza> 22.04 (lubuntu)
[15:12] <leftyfb> vcxza: sudo systemctl restart smbd
[15:13] <leftyfb> vcxza: fine, just set a smbpassword for your user:   sudo smbpasswd -a psolo
[15:13] <leftyfb> this does work without having to do this, but I have to get going
[15:14] <vcxza> leftyfb: I just solved. I entered the samba password (not the user password)
[15:14] <vcxza> many thanks for your precious support
[15:15] <leftyfb> [10:42:48] <leftyfb> did you set a "samba password"?
[15:15] <leftyfb> [10:43:09] * nurtle (~nurtle@user/nurtle) has joined #ubuntu
[15:15] <leftyfb> [10:43:12] <vcxza> no. and I tried with the user password. no luck
[15:16] <vcxza> leftyfb: I tried also without samba password, before
[15:16] <vcxza> I mean:
[15:16] <vcxza> without a samba password set
[15:16] <leftyfb> that's probably the reason this wasn't working. If you set a smbpassword, you have to use it. If you didn't set smbpassword, then it should have worked using the linux user password
[15:18] <vcxza> leftyfb: I meant:
[15:18] <vcxza> I tried with a user WITHOUT a samba password and it did not work
[15:18] <vcxza> then I set a samba password and it did not work either
[15:18] <vcxza> there should be something in your conf file that made it work
[15:19] <vcxza> thanks again. bbl
[15:21] <ioria> vcxza, did you share the directory on windows ?
[16:52] <untre> is ubuntu illegal in north korea?
[16:54] <rbox> sounds like a question for the north korean governmnet
[16:55] <untre> or rascul
[16:56] <JFox762> I need help with installing Ubuntu and being able to boot to it on my Lenovo T470s
[16:56] <JFox762> Im stuck in a bootloop with my previous installation... and am OK with starting over with reinstallation
[16:57] <untre> JFox762: are you in north korea?
[16:57] <JFox762> ... No
[16:57] <rbox> untre: go troll somewhere else
[16:57] <untre> ok then the nerds here should be ble to help
[16:58] <JFox762> So when I try booting up my laptop, it brings me to grub
[16:58] <JFox762> I should have a linux os installed on the main drive
[16:59] <JFox762> When I het the contextual button to bring up bootup options, and try to set it to boot to my main drive....
[17:00] <JFox762> It just brings me to the grub
[17:04] <jeremy31> JFox762: is there an ubuntu option in the boot list?
[17:06] <JFox762> yeah but it brought me back to grub
[17:07] <jeremy31> Does grub allow you to boot an OS?
[17:07] <JFox762> I have kubuntu installed
[17:07] <JFox762> how do I boot from grub to the OS?
[17:08] <jeremy31> There should be options in the grub menu
[17:10] <jeremy31> JFox762: you may need to boot the ISO and post a link to summary info from boot repair https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[17:10] <JFox762> Im going to try reinstalling the OS one more time
[17:11] <JFox762> (no important data)
[17:11] <JFox762> That way we can eliminate any configuration changes that might make it more complicated
[17:12] <oerheks> just make sure you boot the iso in UEFI mode.
[17:12] <oerheks> with fastboot disabled
[17:13] <JFox762> fastboot enabled in bios?
[17:15] <oerheks> did i write enabled?
[17:16] <oerheks> see the UEFI manual
[17:16] <oerheks> !uefi
[17:16] <JFox762> Im not familiar with fastboot
[17:16] <JFox762> !fastboot
[17:17] <JFox762> Im checking to see if its enabled so I can disable it
[17:17] <JFox762> not sure where to find it in bios
[17:18] <oerheks> easy to check all pages..
[17:18] <oerheks> secureboot is oke
[17:18] <JFox762> ahh nevermind found it
[17:19] <JFox762> i think
[17:19] <JFox762> Theres options under Bootmode  "Quick" and "Diagnostics"
[17:19] <JFox762> So select Diagnostics?
[17:20] <oerheks> that sounds like not the bios settings
[17:20] <oerheks> check the manual how to enter the bios?
[17:20] <jhutchins> JFox762: That doesn't sound like it.  That sounds like whether to run the RAM and hardware checks at boot.
[17:20] <jhutchins> Are we sure this system is UEFI, not BIOS?
[17:21] <jhutchins> JFox762: Do you see SecureBoot mentioned anywhere?
[17:21] <JFox762> Yes
[17:22] <JFox762> It is disabled
[17:22] <jhutchins> JFox762: Fast Boot should be on the same page. Both should be off.
[17:22] <JFox762> There is no mention of fast boot
[17:23] <oerheks> secureboot on, fstboot off....
[17:23] <JFox762> options are:
[17:23] <JFox762> Secure Boot [Disabled]
[17:23] <JFox762> Platform Mode [User Mode]
[17:23] <JFox762> Secure Boot Mode [Standard mode]
[17:23] <JFox762> Reset to Setup Mode [Enter]
[17:23] <JFox762> Restore Factory Keys [Enter]
[17:23] <oerheks> weird you can paste those..
[17:25] <JFox762> https://dpaste.com/DH3RY8EQR
[17:26] <JFox762> I didnt, I hand typed that lol
[17:27] <JFox762> Sorry for the accidental flood
[17:28] <JFox762> But yeah, no mention of a fastboot
[17:30] <JFox762> Possible that just isn't a feature on the Lenovo T470s bios?
[17:37] <hao> when I'm brought into grub when not expecting it, I always try set the correct grub.cfg (something like `configfile (hdX,...)/boot/grub/grub.cfg`), then it might bring the menu to me. sometime also have to `set root=(...)`. I never fully understand grub, and never spend the time to fix my multiOS bootable USB stick.
[17:38] <hao> also found that many problem asked here is about booting/grub/efi...
[17:44] <JFox762> So I tried installing a new OS, and I got an error
[17:45] <JFox762> "Executing 'grub-install /dev/nvme0n1' failed. This is a fatal error."
[17:57] <jhutchins> JFox762: THat looks like a partition, not a device.
[17:57] <JFox762>    Trying the installation again
[17:58] <jhutchins> JFox762: You probably want /dev/nvme0
[17:58] <JFox762> I chose entire disk this time
[17:58] <JFox762> maybe I made an error first time
[17:59] <JFox762> Same error, again :(
[18:01] <jhutchins> JFox762: At least you're consistent.
[18:03] <jhutchins> JFox762: Are you changing any of the defaults?  Can you pastebin fdisk -l /dev/nvme0 ?
[18:04] <JFox762> No I didnt change any defaults
[18:04] <oerheks> nvme0 set to raid or ahci?
[18:05] <oerheks> nomodeset could an option > https://devicetests.com/fix-ubuntu-installation-issue-lenovo-thinkpad-t470
[18:10] <oerheks> oh noes, secureboot could well be the issue.. https://gist.github.com/okapies/de0d08f9e3c8bcb2b76a33b68f62a48c
[18:12] <JFox762> https://dpaste.com/FAF9X6SW2
[18:13] <jhutchins> oerheks: If it was nomodeset it would get past the grub menu but fail on graphics.
[18:13] <JFox762> THATS THE OUTPUT from sudo fdisk -l /dev/nvme0n1
[18:14] <elias_a> JFox762: Stop yelling you idiot!
[18:14] <JFox762> sorry
[18:14] <jhutchins> JFox762: So you're specifying the wrong device for grub.  p1 and p2 are partitions, not devices.
[18:14] <JFox762> Ok...
[18:14] <JFox762> when I tried to install kubuntu... i just chose it to install on entire disk
[18:15] <JFox762> IS that not appropriate?
[18:16] <jhutchins> JFox762: Not sure what you mean.  Grub is supposed to install to the device, not the partition.  kubuntu is the same as regular ubuntu except for the desktop and apps from KDE.
[18:16] <JFox762> OK
[18:16] <jeremy31> vcxza:
[18:17] <JFox762> So Im at the "Installation Type". There are four options. Guided - Resize /dev/nvme0n1p2 and use freed space" OR "Guided - Use entire disk." OR "Guided use entire fdisk and set up LVM" OR Guided - use entire disk and set up encrypted LVM
[18:17] <JFox762> What should i select?
[18:20] <JFox762> https://dpaste.com/5BBBBT5SP
[18:20] <jhutchins> I would say Guided, entire disk. I think the "Resize" option is because the installer sees there is already data on p2.
[18:20] <JFox762> Thats the output for fdisk -l
[18:20] <JFox762> Thats what I selected previously though
[18:20] <JFox762> The device is listed as /dev/nvme0n1 - 256 GB Intel SSDPEKKF256G8L
[18:21] <jhutchins> JFox762: That's not the problem, the problem is the selection for where to install grub.  p1 is the EFI partition, not the device.
[18:21] <jhutchins> JFox762: That is NOT a device, that is a partion on device nvme0.
[18:22] <jeremy31> 12:45 PM <JFox762> "Executing 'grub-install /dev/nvme0n1' failed. This is a fatal error."
[18:22] <jhutchins> JFox762: I like to have the installer make just one partition for Linux, plus a swap partition, and you need the EFI partition too, so you would have three partitions.
[18:23] <JFox762> Last time I did "Guided Entire Disk" it came up with the same error
[18:23] <jhutchins> JFox762: That's not where your problem is.
[18:23] <JFox762> OK
[18:23] <JFox762> So what do I do from here?
[18:23] <jhutchins> You could do this:
[18:24] <jhutchins> !fixgrub
[18:24] <jhutchins> Or you could re-run the guided install.
[18:24] <JFox762> The Guided Install... using "Guided - Use Entire Disk" Option?
[18:24] <jhutchins> Yes.
[18:25] <JFox762> OK... Ill try it again
[18:30] <JFox762> Tried the "Guided - Full Disk" Option as you advised... and got the same error
[18:43] <JFox762> @jhutchins any suggestions?
[18:43] <jhutchins> JFox762: Yes, scroll back and look at what we've said about partitions and grub install.
[18:45] <JFox762> You said to retry the guided install, thats exactly what I did, and I selected "Entire Disk"
[18:45] <jhutchins> JFox762: That doesn't have anything to do with the problem.
[18:49] <jhutchins> JFox762: Actually, I don't think I told you to re-run the install, that was your idea.  I showed you the links for fixing the grub install and suggested you do that.
[18:50] <jhutchins> JFox762: Do you understand what a partition is, and what the difference between the device and the partition is?
[18:50] <JFox762> Yes
[18:50] <jhutchins> JFox762: Why do you keep telling grub to install on the partition instead of the device then?
[18:51] <JFox762> I kept selecting "Entire Disk" not the partition from the guided install
[18:51] <JFox762> So I was not installing onto the partition
[18:51] <jhutchins> JFox762: That is at the partitioning stage, which is not the grub install stage.  It asks you where to install grub just before you get the error.
[18:52] <jhutchins> JFox762: You installed Ubuntu to the partitions created in the guided partitioning stage.  That is not the grub install stage.
[18:53] <JFox762> there didn't seem to be a separate Grub install stage
[18:53] <jhutchins> JFox762: WHat installer are you using?
[18:53] <JFox762> i was using kubuntu
[18:53] <JFox762> kubuntu live-usb
[18:53] <JFox762> Im going to try regular old school ubuntu
[18:53] <JFox762> Creating a new live USB
[18:55] <jhutchins> If you make the same choices, you will end up at the same error, no matter which desktop you choose.
[18:57] <JFox762> OK so im booting up my laptop now
[18:59] <JFox762> So I hit enter, and then select the boot options so I can select my bootup device... select the LiveUSB
[19:00] <JFox762> Selecting Language, and then selecting Install Ubuntu
[19:00] <JFox762> Selected Keyboard layout
[19:01] <JFox762> Updates and Other Software.  Selected Normal Installation, and enabled option for Download Updates while Installing Ubuntu AND install third party software.
[19:01] <jhutchins> So far so good.
[19:01] <JFox762> Now I'm at a screen that gives options "Erase Ubuntu 22.0.4.2 LTS and reinstall"
[19:02] <JFox762> OR "Install Ubuntu LTS alongside Ubuntu" (odd, probably not the option I want
[19:02] <JFox762> "Erase Disk and install Ubuntu"
[19:02] <JFox762> and "Something Else"
[19:02] <JFox762> Should I select Erase Disk and Install Ubuntu?
[19:04] <jhutchins> Yes, that's correct.  You're erasing the Lubuntu install you did, replacing it with ubuntu + gnome.
[19:04] <JFox762> Ok good
[19:05] <JFox762> Selecting that option and clicking install now
[19:05] <JFox762> Now it brings up a popup saying the Partition tables of the following devices are changed: /dev/nvme0n1
[19:06] <JFox762> and "The following partitions are going to be formatted: "Partition #1 of /dev/nvme0n1 as ESP"
[19:06] <kerxphilox> ubuntu@ip-172-30-1-161:~/firefox$ chromium
[19:06] <kerxphilox> /user.slice/user-1000.slice/session-1.scope is not a snap cgroup
[19:06] <kerxphilox> ubuntu@ip-172-30-1-161:~/firefox$ firefox
[19:06] <kerxphilox> /user.slice/user-1000.slice/session-1.scope is not a snap cgroup
[19:06] <JFox762> "Partition #2 of /dev/nvme0n1 as ext4"
[19:06] <kerxphilox> Hi all, I'm receiving the following installing snap packages on an ARM64 Ubuntu 22.04 ec2 instance
[19:06] <JFox762> Options are Go Back or Continue. Select Continue?
[19:07] <jhutchins> JFox762: That is a little confusing, but yes.
[19:09] <JFox762> Now its selecting region page
[19:10] <JFox762> Now its installing
[19:10] <JFox762> that is after a final username/password/hostname screen
[19:11] <akik> anybody tried to install ubuntu mate 22.04.3 on a usb stick in uefi mode? after install the usb stick won't boot until i mount/chroot/grub-install and grub-mkconfig
[19:13] <JFox762> Same error again
[19:13] <jhutchins> JFox762: Do you have any options when you get that error?
[19:13] <jeremy31> JFox762: get a summary report from boot repair
[19:14] <JFox762> Just "OK"
[19:14] <JFox762> Wait... now it says "Installation is comlete You need to restart the computer in order to use the new installation"
[19:14] <JFox762> But I also got another popup saying...
[19:14] <jhutchins> Interesting.
[19:15] <JFox762> "INstaller Crashed -  We're sorry; the installer crashed. After you closet his window... we'll allow you to file a pug report using the integrated bug reporting tool..."
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> akik: maybe alkisg knows
[19:16] <jhutchins> JFox762: I haven't run a recent installer on an EFI system, I think you'll need to wait for someone with more current knowledge.
[19:16] <jhutchins> I did my initial install several years ago and have only updated it since.
[19:17] <jhutchins> JFox762: You might try searching the net for terms like "ubuntu" + <laptop model>+install
[19:24] <alkisg> lotuspsychje, akik, what was the question? I scrolled back a bit but I can't find it
[19:25] <akik> alkisg: i installed ubuntu mate 22.04.3 on an usb stick in uefi mode. after install it didn't boot
[19:25] <JFox762> !grubrepair
[19:26] <akik> alkisg: then i did the mount/chroot/ remove EFI/* /grub-install and grub-mkconfig and by magic it now boots
[19:26] <alkisg> akik: which efi partition did the install use, the stick one or the hd one?
[19:26] <alkisg> *the installer
[19:27] <akik> alkisg: the stick's
[19:28] <alkisg> OK well if you hadn't repaired it might make sense to see the disk layout, the efi boot entries etc; but now that you fixed it, problem solved I guess...
[19:28] <akik> well for me
[19:30] <alkisg> If it's a reproducible case, you might want to file a bug in launchpad then; it should affect all ubuntu flavors...
[19:30] <akik> alkisg: i can try it again tomorrow
[19:30] <untre> akik you will respect this channel by not using windows
[19:31] <akik> wtf?
[19:32] <untre> it has been noticed you have frequented #windows
[19:32] <akik> that is none of your damn business on which channels i chat
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> untre: stop that please
[19:32] <jhutchins> akik: Do not engage the troll.
[19:34] <akik> i just made documentation on how to start gnome desktop in wsl 2
[19:34] <akik> did you know that you can now run a linux kernel in windows?
[19:35] <untre> i did, i did not know that you could do it in finland though
[19:37] <akik> yea did you know where linus lived when he built the initial linux kernel?
[19:37] <JFox762> So I tried running the boot-repair
[19:37] <JFox762> Ran the recommended boot repair
[19:37] <untre> iran
[19:37] <akik> yup in finland
[19:37] <JFox762> "Locked-NVram detected"
[19:38] <leftyfb> !op | untre can we please remove this troll?
[19:40] <jeremy31> JFox762: is there a lock boot order in BIOS?
[19:41] <JFox762> Let me reboot the laptop and check
[19:42] <jeremy31> JFox762: there might be an option to boot an EFI too
[19:42] <JFox762> Boot ORder Lock is enabled
[19:43] <ioria> JFox762,  Supervisor Password set ?
[19:43] <JFox762> I think so
[19:43] <ioria> disable
[19:43] <jeremy31> Disable it, JFox762, is there a BIOS boot order on that?
[19:43] <JFox762> I have to enter a password prior to boot up
[19:44] <JFox762> Actually
[19:44] <JFox762> correction... Supervisor Password is disabled
[19:44] <JFox762> Lock UEFI BioS Settings are disabled
[19:44] <ioria> then wrong installer
[19:44] <jeremy31> It might not need a password
[19:45] <JFox762> So Disable Boot Order Lock, Leave Supervisor Password Disabled
[19:45] <jeremy31> JFox762: for now
[19:47] <jeremy31> F12 or FN + F12 at boot should bring up a boot order, see if ubuntu/kubuntu is listed
[19:50] <JFox762> OK so now retry install?
[19:51] <JFox762> Aha!
[19:51] <JFox762> Grub pulls up now
[19:51] <JFox762> Ubuntu is an option
[19:51] <jeremy31> Good
[19:51] <JFox762> I think Ubuntu is pulling up
[19:51] <JFox762> Ugh, I left my liveUSB plugged in
[19:52] <JFox762> how do i make sure Ubuntu is running off of the main drive and not the liveUSB?
[19:52] <JFox762> Hmm nevermind
[19:52] <JFox762> its prompting me for username and password.
[19:53] <JFox762> Going to shutdown, remove LiveUSB, try again
[19:53] <JFox762> I guess it was Boot Lock Order that was causing trouble
[19:54] <JFox762> Its working now, seamlessly
[19:56] <JFox762> What are the benefits of Ubuntu SSO?
[19:57] <jeremy31> You can use it to access multiple Ubuntu sites
[20:06] <jhutchins> JFox762: The laptop is an HP isn't it?
[20:06] <JFox762> Lenovo
[20:06] <JFox762> T470s
[20:07] <jeremy31> jhutchins: HP usually just makes you change UEFI boot order in UEFI settings
[20:29] <JFox762> Ooof
[20:30] <JFox762> Noticed the bottom panel was swelling my Lenovo T470s...
[20:30] <jeremy31> Battery?
[20:30] <JFox762> One of the two batteries had not been working for a while. Opened up the laptop, swollen battery. Removed it to reduce risk of explosion.
[20:30] <JFox762> Thankfully the other battery is still fine
[20:30] <JFox762> yea
[20:31] <JFox762> Im traveling soon, and needed to fix this laptop so I have a laptop for my travel. Not a good idea to fly in an airplane with a swollen battery
[20:59] <ENOT> https://vk.com/forum.enot
[21:03] <kerxphilox> Anyone can help me figure out why firefox snap isn't running properly and provides me with this error message: /user.slice/user-1000.slice/session-1.scope is not a snap cgroup
[21:03] <kerxphilox> There isn't anything online that is pointing me in the right direction of fixing this
[21:04] <jhutchins> !firefox
[21:05] <kerxphilox> Just as a note I'm running ARM64
[21:06] <jhutchins> !firefox-lts
[21:06] <jhutchins> !info firefox-lts
[21:09] <jhutchins> kerxphilox: You could try the .deb package from Mozilla.
[21:10] <jhutchins> kerxphilox: I don't know if they have arm64 builds.
[21:10] <kerxphilox> Yea, I am not having luck w/ ARM64
[21:10] <kerxphilox> Even doing a google search for firefox on arm64 doesn't bring up much
[21:10] <kerxphilox> I thought that by now it would be more common, am I missing something?
[21:11] <kerxphilox> I wonder if I would have success by compiling Firefox myself
[21:16] <kerxphilox> This is so weird!
[21:17] <kerxphilox> Running '/snap/firefox/2918/usr/lib/firefox/firefox' manually will bring up Firefox browser, but running it in the command line as 'firefox' will not
[21:17] <akik> alkisg: i don't know what goes wrong with the ubuntu mate 22.04.3 usb stick uefi install, but this fixes it: https://paste.linux.chat/?63dd0c806c0f4e27#GmH6AUT79VZKzhM6RahkMNUoEj3nH5LxSpv4dmEVcN1L
[21:21] <kerxphilox> Any ideas as to why the snap doesn't work but the binary does?
[21:21] <jhutchins> kerxphilox: snap.
[21:22] <akik> alkisg: oh it gets the esp partition wrong: # /boot/efi was on /dev/sda1 during installation
[21:22] <jhutchins> kerxphilox: Not the best idea they've had.
[21:22] <jhutchins> kerxphilox: Do a "which firefox" to see what command it's actually running; consider making a symlink.
[21:23] <kerxphilox> ubuntu@ip-172-30-1-161:~$ which firefox
[21:23] <kerxphilox> /usr/bin/firefox
[21:23] <kerxphilox> ubuntu@ip-172-30-1-161:~$ file /usr/bin/firefox
[21:23] <kerxphilox> /usr/bin/firefox: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable
[21:24] <kerxphilox> maybe it has to do with the fact that I am running inside a VNC connection remotely?
[21:25] <jhutchins> kerxphilox: Yes.
[21:25] <terminaldweller> :b 64
[21:25] <jhutchins> kerxphilox: Look at the script and see what it's doing.
[21:26] <akik> kerxphilox: i couldn't make the firefox snap work in a vnc session either
[21:34] <kerxphilox> Ok got it
[21:34] <kerxphilox> https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/how-to-install-firefox-deb-apt-ubuntu-22-04
[21:34] <kerxphilox> This worked.  I removed the snap and installed from the ppa
[21:34] <jhutchins> kerxphilox: ++
[21:35] <kerxphilox> This only happens on the ARM64 instance though.  I work perfectly fine on the x86_64 instance
[21:45] <newpy> has anyone had any issues using wireguard on ubuntu 22.04? I tried using the peer config steps here but it's not working: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-wireguard-on-ubuntu-20-04
[21:46] <oerheks> try https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-wireguard-on-ubuntu-22-04 ?
[21:46] <oerheks> seek the difference
[22:11] <kerxphilox> Any idea why I can't add files on the Desktop of a gnome session?  I even manually add files using touch but it doesn't appear on my Desktop in the gnome session
[22:13] <rbox> gnoem doesnt have desktop icons anymore
[22:14] <oerheks> kerxphilox, only .desktop files allowed  https://www.cyberciti.biz/howto/how-to-install-and-edit-desktop-files-on-linux-desktop-entries/
[22:14] <oerheks> other files is so windows xp
[22:15] <tomreyn> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/2087/desktop-icons-ng-ding/
[22:16] <kerxphilox> There isn't an option to add a application to the desktop, just the start bar
[22:16] <oerheks> there is an option in settings
[22:17] <oerheks> appearance
[22:18] <kerxphilox> I don't have an appearance in the settings menu
[22:18] <oerheks> yes you do
[22:19] <oerheks> in gnome
[22:19] <kerxphilox> No I'm serious, I don't see it in the settings
[22:20] <oerheks> also that url is a help
[22:20] <oerheks> good luck!
[22:22] <kerxphilox> Thanks I'll try that
[22:22] <tomreyn> kerxphilox: i think you only really need to    sudo apt install gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons-ng
[22:23] <oerheks> oh good spot, not sure i installed that manually
[22:24] <kerxphilox> gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons-ng is already the newest version (43-2ubuntu1).
[22:24] <kerxphilox> gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons-ng set to manually installed.
[22:24] <kerxphilox> How do I manage it?
[22:25] <kerxphilox> There we go I got it
[22:25] <tomreyn> using extensions manager
[22:25] <kerxphilox> Thanks, I got it
[22:26] <tomreyn> you'll soon notice it's not perfect
[22:27] <tomreyn> https://gitlab.com/rastersoft/desktop-icons-ng/-/issues
[22:27] <kerxphilox> Yea, but it's better than nothing
[22:28] <tomreyn> which ubuntu version are you on?
[22:28] <tomreyn> i'm just wondering since i think this used to be installed and active by default
[22:29] <tomreyn> settings -> about   will tell
[22:29] <tomreyn> or   lsb_release -ds
[22:30] <kerxphilox> Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS
[22:30] <tomreyn> thanks
[22:30] <kerxphilox> It's an amazon ec2 instance that was initially Ubuntu Server
[22:30] <kerxphilox> I manually installed ubuntu desktop, gnome, etc
[22:30] <kerxphilox> That's why it didn't have all this setup by default
[22:30] <tomreyn> oh so that'll be why, i guess. maybe you don't have the "ubuntu-desktop" package installed
[22:31] <tomreyn> and maybe some of the ubuntu-server*" packages are still installed
[22:31] <kerxphilox> I do have that package installed
[22:31] <kerxphilox> ubuntu@ip-172-30-1-47:~$ dpkg -l | grep ubuntu-desktop
[22:31] <kerxphilox> ii  ubuntu-desktop                             1.481.1                                 amd64        The Ubuntu desktop system
[22:31] <kerxphilox> ii  ubuntu-desktop-minimal                     1.481.1                                 amd64        The Ubuntu desktop minimal system
[22:31] <tomreyn> i see. please use a pastebin for sharing multi-line outputs, though
[22:32] <kerxphilox> Ok I thought up to three would be OK, i'll use pastebin for future pasted
[22:34] <kerxphilox> Is there a package I can install that will give me the complete Ubuntu desktop, such as icons, etc.?
[22:35] <akik> alkisg: i just confirmed this; when installing ubuntu on a usb stick in uefi mode, the installer uses the wrong esp which is not on the usb stick
[22:35] <tomreyn> ubuntu-desktop should, i think. that's unless the system is configured not to install recommended packages
[22:36] <oerheks> there is vanilla-gnome-desktop .. but i doubt it will give gnome2 functions back
[22:37] <oerheks> !info vanilla-gnome-desktop
[22:39] <tomreyn> try   sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop^     or   sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop -o 'APT::Install-Recommends=1'
[22:39] <kerxphilox> ubuntu-desktop is installed, but i just installed vanilla-gnome-desktop
[22:40] <kerxphilox> There we go, that did it
[22:40] <kerxphilox> I needed vanilla-gnome-desktop
[23:40] <newpy> EdFletcher, hey sorry to bother you again but is prometheus also free like grafana?
[23:41] <newpy> oh wait, wrong channel