[01:14] <Siko> hey
[01:15] <oerheks> :-)
[01:52] <BinarySavior> sarnold, i restored defaults then rebooted and fixed, but still experiencing screen tearing
[01:52] <BinarySavior> but the blurriness was fixed at least
[01:55] <hao> I keeps run into this problem: every several hour, I found myself unable to change input engine with hotkey, need to do a `ibus restart`.
[01:57] <hao> I also asked in #ibus, but it might not be a problem of ibus. any idea why? wanted to see some log of ibus, but cannot find where the log goes (its manpage doesn't mention)
[02:29] <hao> got some logs extracted from journalctl: https://bpa.st/FIVQ
[02:31] <oerheks> hao, on what browser?
[02:31] <oerheks> seen that on chromium only
[02:31] <hao> browser? sorry I'm asking about ibus
[02:32] <oerheks> yes, where did you notice this behaviour, global?
[02:33] <hao> yes, every several hours, when I switching input engine, will notice that I'm unable to, no matter inside which app
[02:34] <hao> seems it got killed because eating too much CPU?
[02:36] <oerheks> OOM ?
[02:36] <oerheks> grep OOM
[02:38] <hao> I added another case around 5 o'clock: https://bpa.st/ZXOQ, seems before it got killed, there are always several window manager warnings and complains about my keychron keyboard too slow.
[02:38] <hao> wait
[02:39] <oerheks> did you resume after suspend some time??
[02:42] <hao> oerheks, lines around 'OOM': https://bpa.st/RISA
[02:42] <hao> oerheks, what do you mean by 'resume after suspend'?
[02:43] <oerheks> did your system goto sleep?
[02:43] <hao> also, I got my swap off, don't know whether this matters
[02:43] <oerheks> i guess not.
[02:44] <hao> no, as far I know, it's all normal, just that I cannot switch IME suddenly
[02:44] <oerheks> weird, file a bugreport
[02:44] <oerheks> with no swap, and enough memory * 16gb..
[02:45] <oerheks> do you have standard ubuntu , or ubuntu+hwe?
[02:46] <hao> there are 8GB RAM... but to be honest, it seems my system won't eat up all those, typically only consume 4GB+
[02:46] <hao> standard ubuntu
[02:46] <oerheks> chromebook, i presumw
[02:46] <hao> MBP12,1
[02:47] <hao> maybe it's my hardware is too fragile, it got smashed on floor twice...
[02:47] <oerheks> sudo systemctl disable modprobe@chromeos_pstore.service && sudo systemctl mask modprobe@chromeos_pstore.service
[02:47] <oerheks> maybe it helps
[02:50]  * hao need to search a little on 'modprobe@chromeos_pstore.service'
[02:52] <oerheks> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2479828
[03:01] <hao> oerheks, done that. will see if the problem persist. thanks
[03:04] <circle> Hello is there documentation for getting external monitors to work on Ubuntu 22.04.2 a (dell) laptop with intel and Nvidia graphics?
[03:06] <oerheks> circle, is there a hardware key, fn + something to get external working"?
[03:09] <circle> F8 has the symbol on it. Pressing F8 appears to do nothing. fn+F8 logs me out  8-(
[03:11] <oerheks> internal, external, both
[03:14] <circle> do I need to install or configure something for dell laptop keys to be properly recognized?
[03:14] <circle> Currently all that key does is log me out
[03:15] <oerheks> weird, never seen that before
[03:15] <oerheks> what nvidia driver and what hw?
[03:15] <circle> The other keyboard functions (volume, mic, keyboard /screen brightness all work.
[03:18] <circle> Nvidia settings app is not very populated. Only two lines in the left panel: Application Profiles; Nvidia settings configuration.
[03:19] <circle> how do I tell the Nvidia driver version?
[03:20] <oerheks> did you set any overclocking in the bios
[03:20] <oerheks> ?
[03:20] <circle> no
[03:20] <oerheks> oke
[03:21] <circle> Hardware is Dell Precision 7760
[03:23] <circle> lash -C display says  NVIDIA GA104GLM [RTX A5000 Mobile] and Intel (no specific info given)
[03:24] <circle> lspci says Intel Corp. Device 9a70 (rev 01)
[03:26] <oerheks> dell has some repos http://dell.archive.canonical.com/updates/dists/
[03:26] <oerheks> not sure how to add those
[03:27] <circle> There are a lot of jammy versions
[03:28] <oerheks> old howto, not sure the key is valid https://nrogap.medium.com/dell-repository-for-install-additional-drivers-on-ubuntu-4cf061640180
[03:30] <circle> Is it strange that the documentation is not on dell's website but on medium?
[03:31] <rbox> thats not 'the documnetation"... thats some rnaodm guy writing some words o na website
[03:37] <circle> I find executables prime-supported prime-offload ... but no man pages nor --help option.  are there documentations for them?
[03:39] <player> :D
[05:34] <chrislevite> please i need help. When i start up my ubuntu sometimes it keeps booting forever,sometimes web browser keeps refreshing, sometimes ~ is typed on the terminal continuously
[07:26] <philogone> Hi all it's my first use of irc
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[08:08] <pydev1> hello everybody
[08:09] <pydev1> i have created a system user without an home, but now i need to configure a ssh key to login into gitlab and download the repository, so the things are: 1) create an home for that user and add .ssh/config with the "Host" or simply use the /etc/ssh/ssh_config file and put everything there
[08:09] <pydev1> are there any other approach ?
[08:09] <pydev1> and i also wonder if is there any sense of having a system account WITH home ...BUT with a shell /sbin/nologin
[08:10] <pydev1> as i said i do that just to log into external servers
[08:13] <NickH> There are many acccounts just like that. First one that comes to mind is sshd. Have a look in /etc/passwd.
[08:14] <NickH> Such accounts often have their home under /var/lib
[08:17] <pydev1> NickH, wait
[08:18] <pydev1> so you think is better to add an HOME for that system user?
[08:18] <pydev1> and then creates .ssh/config?
[08:18] <pydev1> why can i not use ssh_config directly ?
[08:18] <pydev1>  /etc/ssh/ssh_config i mean
[08:22] <NickH> Is this for hosting a gitlab instance?
[08:26] <NickH> If so, I suggest you follow the gitlab documention.
[08:43] <pydev1> NickH, pardon i am back
[08:43] <pydev1> no no i am not hosting gitlab
[08:43] <pydev1> i am saying that i have many users in my server
[08:43] <pydev1> from each server i need to "git pull"  data from gitlab.com
[08:44] <pydev1> i can also do git clone
[08:44] <pydev1> they permit ssh key as auth method
[08:44] <pydev1> so basically i would like to "install" a key for each user
[08:44] <pydev1> to let that user pull data from gitlab.com
[08:44] <pydev1> so i am asking
[08:45] <pydev1> can a system account has an home but with nologin shell?
[08:45] <pydev1> is there any sense?
[08:45] <pydev1> i do not need to log-in
[09:12] <throwthecheese> Any idea why I can't activate Maliit?
[09:44] <NickH> Each user should create their own key.
[09:47] <zetheroo1> Is it possible to access an NFS share via Files?
[09:52] <Guest63> Hi what's the difference between Nvidia-utils-NNN and Nvidia-utils-NNN-server?
[09:53] <ravage> zetheroo1: nfs://
[09:53] <Guest63> apt info : binaries for the NVIDIA [server] driver.  What's the difference? I don't know what the NV server is
[09:54] <ravage> Guest63: it is only a guess. but the server packages maybe dont include any GUI applications?
[09:58] <Guest63> does the NNN need to match the installed driver?
[09:58] <Guest63> Does anyone else get strange output from 'apt info Nvidia-driver-525'.  ?
[10:08] <Guest92> I am using Ubuntu 23.04 .  Whenever pc screens go dark and i get logged out, my sounds transfer from headphones to speakers. And when I log back in they go back to headphones. Any idea why?
[10:08] <Guest63> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia. tells how to launch the application to find proprietary drivers, however "Software & Updates -> Additional Drivers" does not seem to exist as such in 22.04.3 . Does it have another name?
[10:22] <ogra> Guest63, look for "Additional Drivers"
[10:23] <ogra> i.e. hit the windows key to bring up the search ... then type in that search term
[10:23] <ogra> err ... hit "windows + a"
[10:24] <ogra> (or search just for "drivers" one of these sould bring up the app)
[10:36] <throwthecheese> How do I make maliit-keyboard work on KDE Plasma?
[10:37] <throwthecheese> I enabled it using system settings but it won't appear
[10:37] <throwthecheese> Details: Ubunu 22.04, compiled from master branch
[10:40] <throwthecheese> + Plasma running on Wayland
[10:40] <weedmic> pydev1: did you accomplish what you wanted?
[10:40] <zniavre> ubuntu-driver-common
[10:44] <pydev1> weedmic, yes
[10:48] <throwthecheese> Any idea why maliit-keyboard doesn't appear for me?
[10:51] <throwthecheese> I installed maliit-keyboard from source, exported the input method env vars and enabled it using KDE system setting but it can't be invoked for some reason (environment: Ubuntu 22.04, KDE on Wayland)
[10:54] <pydev1> guys
[10:55] <pydev1> is it possible to force permissions during the creation of a file?
[10:55] <pydev1> for example i see when i create a file
[10:55] <pydev1> it sets rw rw r
[10:55] <pydev1> what about if i want to force rw rw - only ?
[10:55] <pydev1> is that possible?
[10:55] <pydev1> without running chmod everytime ?
[10:55] <weedmic> you do not mean sticky bits w chmod command - correct?
[10:55] <pydev1> i need to pull data form a repository...
[10:56] <pydev1> i need to give read and write permissions just for user and group
[10:56] <pydev1> for other NO
[10:56] <pydev1> *others
[10:56] <pydev1> but now i see it creates the file with rw-rw-r--
[10:57] <pydev1> is possible to set no permissions to others inside a specific directory ?
[10:57] <pydev1> it is not a big problem...just asking if i need to run chmod again and again
[10:57] <pydev1> or i can siply add a rule to force rw-rw----
[10:58] <chrfle> Hello. I got a Dell laptop which I've tried updating the system firmware to 3.16.0 and later 3.17.0 but neither has booted. I see that there's a 3.15.0 available. How do I ask fwupdmgr to install that specific version and not the latest one? (I'm currently on 3.11.0)
[10:59] <pydev1> for example in my home directory no other users should read/write/access
[10:59] <pydev1> nothing
[10:59] <pydev1> is that possible weedmic ?
[10:59] <ravage> pydev1: https://phoenixnap.com/kb/what-is-umask
[11:01] <weedmic> ty ravage - pydev1 read that it gives examples too.
[11:02] <pydev1> ok so basically i can set umask
[11:02] <pydev1> for specific user/group too
[11:03] <pydev1> weedmic, I have a doubt.... is umask ... "global" ? i mean...lets suppose i want to give rw-rw--- for a specific folder
[11:04] <pydev1> is not possible?
[11:05] <pydev1> for example inside the user A home's i would like to set rw-rw--- for the user B home's i would like to set rw-rw-rw-
[11:06] <pydev1> is that possible or is that just a globla setting ?
[11:06] <pydev1> *global
[11:12] <weedmic> as far as I know umask is global and not per directory - read the manpage to be sure and also check setfacl, and as suggested chmod (usually not used by most first digit) x550 - you may see that when a file is put into the directory it is changed to what you want.
[12:21] <pydev1> weedmic, thank you
[13:03] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:06] <hid3> Hello everyone. Is it possible to somehow run a script/command only once after next reboot? I'm setting up a linux server build, some actions needs to be done after reboot. E.g. certain files removed, etc
[13:07] <dTal> Sure, just make the script delete itself
[13:07] <dTal> or less dramatically, remove itself from the boot sequence
[13:08] <hid3> any suggestions on adding it to boot sequence? Anything easier than making a systemd service file?
[13:08] <ogra> hid3, read up about systemd oneshot daemons
[13:09] <dTal> The traditional way would be rc.local
[13:10] <ogra> back in the days, yeah
[13:10] <dTal> Still perfectly valid
[13:17] <ravage> rc.local is a one-shot daemon. so yes
[13:23] <ekaleido> and leeches can, in some cases, be use to clean blood ;)
[13:34] <strk> where does the "XXXX updates can be applied" message on login comes from ?
[13:34] <strk> cannot find the string in /etc/
[13:36] <strk> found: /etc/update-motd.d/90-updates-available
[13:42] <jackneill> hey. for japanese ime what is the preferred way? i saw a multiude of apps, ibus, anthy, mozc, fcitx...
[13:59] <elias_a> jackneill: What is japanese ime?
[14:00] <ogra> ime -> input method
[14:06] <elias_a> Ok. So the question is "What is the preferred ime for japanese?" Do I get this right?
[14:08] <ogra> yes, i think so
[14:10] <ogra> jackneill, does ths help ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JapaneseInput
[14:10] <ogra> (seems that recommends Mozc ... )
[14:11] <jackneill> thank you.
[14:12] <ianliu> My ubuntu server is experiencing some slowness when making simple file system operations, such as mkdir, mv, cp, etc. Sometimes mkdir takes 5 seconds to create a directory. What could I do to debug whats happening to my system? I've already looked into "iotop", which is reporting very low disk usage (in the order of kb/s read/write). Is there anything else I could do?
[14:14] <gebbione> i am trying to run a snap app called pacman-revenge but it is not starting even if it says so ... this is what i see but the app does not start https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fMRWGsQNNC/ any suggestions?
[14:20] <ravage> gebbione: same here. contact the developer
[14:20] <gebbione> ravage, thank you for running it
[14:20] <oerheks>  re-install the fontconfig package?
[14:21] <ravage> it is part of the snap
[14:21] <ravage> no local packages should affect the snap runtime
[14:22] <oerheks> this post says reinstall fixes this https://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php?topic=148514.0 and this one about steam gives fontconfig 32 bit fixes things https://www.reddit.com/r/voidlinux/comments/htzwlo/steam_font_problem/
[14:29] <jhutchins> ianliu: Have you looked at dmesg?
[14:56] <Jackneill> hey.  i installed a fresh ubuntu 23.04 and cinnamon desktop on it. from settings i cannot open the Themes module.
[14:56] <Jackneill> https://pastebin.com/nAQ4b6wk this is the error i get.
[14:57] <Jackneill> i ask here because they sent me here from official linux mint help from spotchat.
[15:04] <ioria> Jackneill, interesting
[15:05] <ioria> Jackneill, WEBKIT_DISABLE_COMPOSITING_MODE=1 cinnamon-settings
[15:05] <Jackneill> same error
[15:05] <Niclos> Hello all, how to integrate two LDAPs on the Ubuntu 22.04 LTS?
[15:06] <Jackneill> i have forund similar issues: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cinnamon/+bug/2009311 but no solution there
[15:06] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2009311 in cinnamon (Ubuntu) "cinnamon-settings.py crashed with UnboundLocalError in create_scaled_surface(): cannot access local variable 'pixbuf' where it is not associated with a value" [Medium, New]
[15:06] <ioria> Jackneill, dpkg -l | grep goa | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:07] <Jackneill> ioria, https://termbin.com/1p5u
[15:09] <ioria> Jackneill, env | grep SESSION_DESKTOP
[15:11] <Jackneill> ioria,  XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP=cinnamon
[15:12] <ioria> Jackneill, ps -A | grep -i xorg
[15:16] <Jackneill> ioria,    2138 tty2     00:09:50 Xorg
[15:16] <Jackneill>  105182 tty3     00:00:36 Xorg
[15:16] <Jackneill> i have 2 user logins now, but the error was there with 1 also
[15:20] <Niclos> Is there any way to integrate two LDAPs on the Ubuntu 22.04 LTS?
[15:21] <ioria> Jackneill, cat -n /usr/share/cinnamon/cinnamon-settings/cinnamon-settings.py  | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:26] <Rilixit> I NEED HELP
[15:26] <Rilixit> pls
[15:27] <Rilixit> anyone ?
[15:27] <Rilixit> hello ?
[15:27] <oerheks> hi Rilixit, ask wait and see
[15:27] <Rilixit> so i cloned my hdd to an ssd using macrium reflect 8
[15:27] <Rilixit> but the Pc's bios does not recognise it
[15:28] <ioria> Jackneill, ubuntucinnamon-environment maybe missing
[15:30] <oerheks> Rilixit, does not see it at all, or just cannot boot from it?
[15:30] <Rilixit> both
[15:30] <Rilixit> sometimes\
[15:30] <Rilixit> it doesnt see
[15:30] <Rilixit> sometimes it doesnt boot
[15:30] <oerheks> sounds like a hw issue..
[15:30] <Rilixit> ssd is sata III but the PC is sata II
[15:30] <Rilixit> is that it ?
[15:31] <Rilixit> i thought SATA was backwards compatiable
[15:31] <oerheks> most pc's do, yes
[15:31] <oerheks> but sometimes it works, so it not the bios/pc
[15:31] <oerheks> check cable and power, i have no clue
[15:32] <Rilixit> for the record the PC is a dell Inspiron 1525 and the ssd is a zebronicss-d52
[15:32] <Jackneill> ioria, oh indeed its not installed
[15:32] <ioria> let's try it an reboot
[15:32] <Jackneill> the site i got the pkg list for cinnamon de install didnt list it. just a group package if i recall cinnamon or something
[15:33] <ioria> nope...
[15:33] <Jackneill> maybe should be included in the meta pkg?
[15:33] <Jackneill> i cant reboot now as im copying files for another 35 min (new install), after that i will try, thank you
[15:33] <ioria>  cinnamon-desktop-environment
[15:34] <ioria> ubuntucinnamon-desktop
[15:34] <Rilixit> Jackneill I'm pretty sure apt has cinnamon
[15:34] <Rilixit> that's how I installed it
[15:34] <ioria> or cinnamon-desktop-environment
[15:34] <Rilixit> sudo apt install cinnamon-desktop-environment
[15:34] <ioria> brb
[15:35] <oerheks> !info ubuntucinnamon-desktop
[15:35] <Rilixit> guys
[15:36] <Rilixit> the problem isn't going
[15:43] <maxtim> I'm running Pop_OS!. I can connect to my Debian machine using ssh. I cannot connect to one of my Ubuntu machines via ssh. However, same LAN, different machine, I can connect to the Ubuntu machine. How can I troubleshoot this issue?
[15:44] <Niclos> Hi all, Is there any way to integrate two different LDAPs on the Ubuntu 22.04 LTS?
[16:25] <pick> Hi are the directions given for 20.04 in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack    current for 22.04 or is there a more current reference for using HWE or OEM Kernels?
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> !hwe
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> is what we usualy provide to users
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> pick: are you looking for a specific layout?
[16:29] <pick> pardon, what is layout?
[16:30] <lotuspsychje> pick: i mean are you looking for something specific to solve on your system like an oem kernel for a specific brand for example?
[16:30] <pick> I'm trying, on an Ubuntu certified Dell laptop with hybrid NVidia/Intel graphics, to get external monitors to work.
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> ah
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> !hardware | pick
[16:31] <oerheks> i see 22.04 is not on that page;  sudo apt install linux-generic-hwe-22.04  # and for oem it is still the same
[16:33] <maxtim> I can ping the host, I can traceroute the host. tcptraceroute fails. telnet fails. Yet I know port 22 is open since I can ssh to other machines and I can ssh to the host from other machines. So what gives? Also worth noting, same results either wired ethernet or wifi...
[16:33] <pick> I've tried to read up on the difference between OEM and HWE without comprehension; is OEM more bleeding edge?
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> pick: in some cases, a specific brand will get recognized by ubuntu setup and pull a specific OEM kernel, some users reported that in the past happening
[16:33] <oerheks> !info linux-oem-22.04 jammy
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> pick: but for dell, some cases you might need packages from dells repos too, and there are packages for dell on the ubuntu repos
[16:34] <pick> !info linux-generic-hwe-22.04
[16:34] <pick> !info linux-generic-hwe-22.04 jammy
[16:36] <pick> lotuspsychje: how to know whether I need those other repository and which to use?
[16:36] <pick> Where is the Dell repository documented?
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> pick: usualy apt is pretty intuitive and picks the best packages for your hardware
[16:37] <redlegion> anyone know how to get F12 to send F12 with byobu/tmux?
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> pick: but in some cases your end desktop install doesnt seem to have all your hardware devices working, it might need finetuning
[16:38] <oerheks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Dell
[16:46] <lotuspsychje> pick: i think the best case to start with, is this installing ubuntu connected to internet and let apt pull updates during setup
[17:13] <Niclos98> Hello all, Is there any way to integrate two different LDAPs on the Ubuntu 22.04 LTS?
[18:10] <tomreyn> Niclos98: what do you mean by "integrate"? do you want to run two ldap server instances on one ubuntu server installation? do you want to have pam do ldap lookups against multiple directory servers?
[18:11] <tomreyn> (and why is this a realistic use case?)
[18:25] <Niclos98> tomreyn: I have two domains that have LDAP/AD, so I want those domain users to access the Ubuntu 22.04 LTS server? One of the domains already LDAP is integrated, so just add the other one.
[18:28] <tomreyn> Niclos98: if you're using sssd, you should be able to define different lookup servers for different domains: https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/service-sssd-ldap
[19:12] <Niclos98> tomreyn: So, just add the second domain to /etc/sssd/sssd.conf --configuration file?
[19:20] <tomreyn> Niclos98: i'd think so (but have not set this up myself)
[19:25] <topcat001> BinarySavior: can you explain how your graphics is set up? Is it a laptop with optimus, or a desktop with a single nvidia gpu?
[20:17] <H3dn1ng> Where are snap install/uninstall logs?
[20:19] <oerheks> zgrep snapd $(/bin/ls -r /var/log/syslog*) | grep -v audit
[20:20] <oerheks> also; snap changes # will let you know what changed.
[20:22] <oerheks> sudo snap logs SNAP_NAME -f # per application
[20:29] <H3dn1ng> oerheks: sudo snap logs firefox -f
[20:29] <H3dn1ng> fel: snap "firefox" has no services
[20:30] <H3dn1ng> oerheks: snap changes is very short term, for some reason
[20:31] <oerheks> i see, i tried with redis, that worked...
[20:32] <oerheks> zgrep snapd $(/bin/ls -r /var/log/syslog*) | grep -v firefox
[20:36] <H3dn1ng> oerheks: Thanks for ur help. I'm looking for install/upgrade/unisntall info :)
[20:44] <joseph1> I have to hand it to ubuntu - I just has a "linux" friend install mx-linux - what a disaster - I finally convinced him to install ubuntu - everything worked. amazing. you people really have your stuff together.
[20:48] <oerheks> !yay
[20:48] <joseph1> hey oerheks , thanks buddy.
[20:49] <joseph1> I came from bsd 3.6 and mandrake when I installed ubuntu 6.06 - never looked back.
[20:50] <joseph1> Have a good day folks.
[21:25] <ash_m> I have a repo apparently in apt which is missing a key and causing apt-update to fail; I actually don't remember why this repo is even there, is there a way for me to find out?
[21:26] <ravage> ash_m: try https://github.com/ericj112/ppa-tool/blob/master/ppa-tool.sh
[21:27] <ravage> or for a direct download https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ericj112/ppa-tool/master/ppa-tool.sh
[21:28] <ravage> © EriC^^ :)
[21:28] <EriC^^> xD
[21:29]  * ash_m trying it
[21:31] <ash_m> well, it does tell me that the ppa in question is active; but I'm trying to get an idea of what software is associated with that ppa
[21:31] <ravage> -i
[21:31] <ash_m> interesting, that's not in the help
[21:32] <ravage> echo "-i, --installed		list installed packages from ppa"
[21:32] <ash_m> when I did `ppa-tool.sh -i` it said: Error: ppa list file ... doesn't exsit
[21:33] <ash_m> and `apt update` fails because of the key
[21:33] <ash_m> it's for http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/ars3n1y/xUbuntu_21.04/
[21:33] <ash_m> is ars3n1y a trusted user?
[21:33] <ravage> thst looks old
[21:34] <ash_m> it might be; if I had to guess, I would bet this was in an attempt to install tdlib-purple to use telegram on bitlbee
[21:34] <ravage> it provides libpurple-telegram-tdlib
[21:34] <ash_m> ravage: wow
[21:34] <ravage> remove the package. delete the list file
[21:34] <ravage> be happy
[21:35] <ash_m> wow @ (1) I was right and (2) you found that so quickly; how did you know?
[21:35] <ravage> looked at https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/ars3n1y/xUbuntu_21.04/Packages
[21:37] <ash_m> i see; I don't think there is a good terminal program for telegram anymore
[21:37] <ash_m> ravage: E: Unable to locate package libpurple-telegram-tdlib
[21:38] <ash_m> so then I should just remove the repo, yea?
[21:38] <ravage> then skip step one and delete the list file :)
[21:38] <ash_m> ravage: by "list file" you mean the one in the message: Error: ppa list file /var/lib/apt/lists/download.opensuse.org_repositories_home:_ars3n1y_xUbuntu_21.04_dists____*_Packages doesn't exist
[21:38] <oerheks> https://github.com/majn/telegram-purple as https://github.com/ars3niy/tdlib-purple is old
[21:39] <ash_m> oerheks: yeah
[21:39] <ravage> ash_m: it should be in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[21:39] <ash_m> okay, probably the one that says that funky user name :P
[21:40] <ash_m> yay; it's working
[21:40] <ash_m> ravage: I'm on step 3 now
[21:40] <ash_m> (be happy)
[21:40] <ravage> great :D
[21:41] <ravage> for telegram and all other messangers i moved to matrix. but thats a personal preference :)
[21:42] <ash_m> ravage: I have only used matrix as a webgui. Is it also a terminal client?
[21:42] <ravage> i think there is more than one
[21:42] <joseph1> whoever did that - thanks - I get it.
[21:42] <ravage> ash_m: https://matrix.org/ecosystem/clients/
[21:42] <ash_m> isn't matrix now element?
[21:43] <ash_m> oh it isn't
[21:43] <ash_m> element is a certain client
[21:44] <ash_m> ravage: is the one that you use a terminal client?
[21:44] <ravage> no i just use Element. i dont need a terminal client really on the desktop
[21:46] <ash_m> boo
[21:46] <ash_m> :P
[21:51] <ash_m> all the terminal ones listed there are α or β
[21:52] <ash_m> looks like znc is gonna be restarted, ttys
[21:57] <ash_m> is there an easy way to restart an encrypted device remotely?
[22:19] <joseph1> over clocked to +3675 - excellent - well done.
[22:19] <joseph1> chow.
[22:24] <Guest899> hi
[22:30] <joseph1> I need more goodies.
[22:32] <joseph1> Is a ham radio repairman - bring it.
[22:32] <joseph1> retired.
[22:33] <Eickmeyer> !info hamradio-all
[22:34] <joseph1> looks - thanks.
[22:34] <Eickmeyer> !info klog
[22:34] <joseph1> Excellent.
[22:34] <Eickmeyer> Tons of stuff for ham radio in the repos. Just 'sudio apt search ham radio'.
[22:35] <Eickmeyer> *sudo apt search ham radio
[22:35] <sarnold> (no need for sudo there :)
[22:35]  * archpc tosses a Lunar Lobster into the room, runs away
[22:35] <Eickmeyer> True, habit be habiting.
[22:35] <joseph1> I dont do packet but strictly rf out-put -  I build high power amps.
[22:36] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, I don't know enough, but there's tons of stuff.
[22:36] <joseph1> Mostly 2sc-2879.
[22:36] <Eickmeyer>  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[22:36] <joseph1> @ 17-21 volts.
[22:36] <joseph1> class AB
[22:36] <joseph1> ssb
[22:36] <Eickmeyer> There's even a podcast called Linux in the Ham Shack that you might enjoy.
[22:37] <joseph1> nice
[22:38] <joseph1> I also help out the 11 meter "responsible" users, who know antenna theory.
[22:38] <Ekuzu> Hey!
[22:39] <joseph1> Thanks for your help Ekuzu.
[22:39] <Eickmeyer> 🤣
[22:40] <joseph1> chow folks.
[22:40] <Eickmeyer> o/
[22:40] <joseph1> done.
[22:46] <ash_m> I know I've asked this before but does anyone have any idea how I might find out why some apps end up behind the launcher in maximized mode after waking? I have some journal output, but I don't really know what I'm looking for
[22:47] <ash_m> https://gist.github.com/ash-m/c18206d0d4249cf457bd760533a2eb53
[22:48] <sarnold> ash_m: wild guess, try disabling all your gnome extensions, see if you can reproduce it, bring them back one at a time, see if you can reproduce it, etc
[22:51] <joseph1> I have a set of cams - chinese - with solar charging - with separate router manual connect - how would zone-minder work . just a suggestion.
[22:52] <joseph1> or - what would - yes - cams are - wireless.
[22:52] <joseph1> generic
[22:53] <joseph1> without etho
[22:53] <joseph1> on their own.
[22:54] <joseph1> wait - with etho - on their own.
[22:57] <joseph1> I get it - hard call - ill just load another hd and try - thanks
[22:58] <sarnold> .. did you ever get around to an actual question in there? :)
[22:58] <joseph1> and stop the updates when it works - el-oh-el.
[22:58] <joseph1> kinda sarnold
[22:58] <joseph1> lemme ask again
[22:59] <joseph1> I have a set of wireless cams - they need to work to my machine - without actual - internet.
[23:00] <joseph1> they have a personal router.
[23:01] <joseph1> done
[23:03] <sarnold> I think you might have been on the right track with "I'll just .. try"  :) there's hundreds of cameras and some are hardcoded to send their video to cloud servers on the internet, some can be configured where they should send their video, some will probably require network-level configuration, etc ..
[23:03] <joseph1> agreed
[23:04] <joseph1> thanks for your help sarnold . have a super day - im out for the nite with silly questions - thanks sarnold .
[23:04] <sarnold> gn8 joseph1 :)
[23:04] <joseph1> .
[23:05] <ash_m> sarnold: I'm about to ask something stupid: how do you disable gnome extensions?
[23:05] <sarnold> ash_m: hah, good question :) I've never actually used it..
[23:07] <ash_m> I think they're installed/managed through chromium iirc
[23:08] <sarnold> oh sheeeesh is there no friendly control panel thing for it? the website does sure look like the browser is the way to do it. heh.
[23:08] <sarnold> maybe ls ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions     -- lets see if this is remotely useful
[23:11] <ash_m> I haven't gone through the steps on this machine to set that up; there's some native thing you have to enable lest you get a big warning about it; that said, it didn't really say anything was installed; I'll check that dir
[23:14] <ash_m> sarnold: that directory doesn't exist, it's parent has children: ["Standard input code","application_state","gnome-overrides-migrated","notifications"]
[23:14] <ash_m> erm
[23:14] <ash_m> not that first one
[23:14] <ash_m> ["application_state","gnome-overrides-migrated","notifications"]
[23:15] <sarnold> ash_m: well, the good news is that this isn't likely to be your problem ;) the bad news is, it was my only idea :(
[23:15] <ash_m> hah
[23:15] <pick> @lotus
[23:15] <sarnold> right?
[23:15] <sarnold> he'd have an idea, but it's too early for him
[23:15] <sarnold> in the meantime, I suggest filing a bug report; ubuntu-bug gnome-shell -- and describe how to see what you're seeing, include a screenshot if you can :)
[23:16] <ash_m> there are several lines in the journal output that have terminal=? ... could that mean anything
[23:16] <ash_m> ?
[23:16] <ash_m> there's already this, but it doesn't have a lot of traction; my guess is many people don't have this problem... I don't know why I'm one of the few that do
[23:16] <ash_m> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1433479/maximized-windows-become-maximized-behind-launcher
[23:17] <ash_m> ^ this*
[23:17] <pick> oerheks: thank you that ubuntu Dell link seems helpful, will try
[23:21] <ash_m> this is the second device to experience this problem so I can only guess it's (1) some software I installed... I do use `xclip -sel c` a lot /shrug. or (2) the fact that both machines came with windows preinstalled (former was an MSI, new one is Dell)
[23:21] <ash_m> dunno why that would mean anything but I've seen stranger things in my life
[23:44] <sarnold> ash_m :( still, it's probabyl worth a bug report; the one comment suggests suspend/resume as a proximate event, that's probably worth mentioning if you see that or if you don;t
[23:46] <Jinsu> hey, what is mtu size by default in ubuntu ?
[23:53] <preson1c> i can pretty much trust that linux/ubuntu wont make ANY modifications to drive after i plug in via usb, i have to make an EXACT image using dd
[23:53] <sarnold> that is not a safe assumption
[23:53] <sarnold> ubuntu by default mounts things when they are plugged in
[23:54] <preson1c> mount and modify?
[23:54] <sarnold> you should not be using ubuntu to collect drive images for forensics, without taking steps to prevent automatic drive mounting first
[23:54] <preson1c> ok
[23:55] <ash_m> sarnold: which client do you use for matrix?
[23:55] <sarnold> ash_m: I use irssi for irc. no matrix.
[23:55] <ash_m> sarnold: I thought you use matrix for tg and all non-irc comms?
[23:56] <sarnold> ash_m: nope; there's another sarnold in gentoo-land, I understand, maybe that's him you're thikning of?
[23:56] <ash_m> wtf. I swear it was today I was talking to someone here about it
[23:56]  * ash_m is looking in log files
[23:57] <sarnold> 2023-08-23 21:41:38 < ravage> for telegram and all other messangers i moved to matrix. but thats a personal preference :)
[23:58] <ash_m> that's it
[23:58] <ash_m> and I just realized that I don't know where my logs are
[23:59] <ash_m> I have znc running and attach irssi to that
[23:59] <ash_m> on a remote machine
[23:59] <ash_m> I ssh'ed into the user running znc and irclogs/libera-znc only has 2 files