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juliank#startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team15:01
meetingologyMeeting started at 15:01:30 UTC.  The chair is juliank.  Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology15:01
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juliank#topic Lightning rounds15:01
* vorlon waves15:01
juliank#link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-24-aug-2023/15:01
zhsjo/15:01
xypron\o15:02
mateus-moraiso/15:02
bdrung\o15:02
bdmurraycantankerous15:03
waveformoccasionally :)15:03
juliankmoo?15:03
bdmurrayDPaaS15:03
liushuyuo/15:03
waveformI just couldn't come up with a good acronym...15:03
slyono/15:04
mclemenceauo/15:09
juliank#topic Release incoming bugs15:10
juliank#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:10
juliankbug 203190915:10
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2031909 in glibc (Ubuntu) "tinydns: allocation failures with glibc 2.38/s390x" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203190915:10
juliankschopin: ^15:11
schopinOh right. danilogondolfo fixed the symptoms, but I'm a bit worried about it still since the fix is to double the applied limit, which seems excessive.15:12
vorlonjuliank: I didn't notice if you replied to my last ping; are all the grub zfs regressions sorted now in mantic(-proposed)?15:13
schopinSo I think we need to take the time to investigate it some more to see if that's not an actual bug in glibc that causes excess memory usage.15:13
danilogondolfowell, to be fair, the was a patch already increasing that limit, I just increased it a bit more :)15:13
schopinThe patch was going from 3 to 4, you went straight to 8 :D15:13
bdmurraywhy not 11?15:14
juliankvorlon: to the best of my knowledge they should be, yes, I don't remember seing a ping15:14
vorlonjuliank: ack thanks15:14
danilogondolfobdmurray, next glibc will require 11 I'm pretty sure15:15
juliankshould we tag this todo?15:15
julianksomeone will complain about this later likely :D15:15
schopinI say yes (obviously)15:15
juliankcounting down from 315:16
juliank015:16
juliankAdded the tag15:16
juliankbug 203168515:16
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2031685 in rustc (Ubuntu) "rust-doc depends on fonts-nanum, should use system Korean font instead" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203168515:16
julianksome vorlon font stuff15:16
vorlonif we wind up excluding rust-doc from main, then this doesn't need to be foundations-todo15:17
vorlonbut it's still a bug :)15:17
juliankWe already matain a delta/are ahead so it wouldn't be a hard hit to do that15:17
vorlonthe dependency on fonts-nanum is itself a delta15:18
juliankvorlon: is rust-doc demotion in progress? should we revisit this next week then?15:18
slyonall of rust is currently in universe (still)15:18
vorlonI wouldn't say it's in progress; it was a suggestion from (I think) slyon in response to this15:18
slyonpending security review of cargo15:18
slyonvorlon: I think excluding rust-doc was suggested as part of the initial MIR15:19
vorlonslyon: can you point me to the bug? we could add it to Extra-Excludes: now and drop this off the list15:19
schopindefinitely was.15:19
slyonvorlon: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rustc/+bug/1957932/comments/315:20
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1957932 in rustc (Ubuntu) "[MIR] rustc, cargo, dh-cargo" [Critical, Fix Released]15:20
slyon"Specific binary packages built, but NOT to be promoted to main: rust-doc, rust-src, rust-all"15:20
juliank+115:21
vorlonthanks, let's lose the tag then15:21
juliankack15:22
juliankbug 201740115:22
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2017401 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu) "Unexpected / unwanted unattended-upgrades behaviour after kernel upgrade when Livepatch enabled" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201740115:22
juliankI think next step is meeting and discussing15:22
juliankbut also server is doing stuff15:22
juliankand bug 2029148 is a desktop issue15:23
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2029148 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "cups snap - can't add printer" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202914815:23
vorlonthis bug report is simply about the regression in support for the Unattended-Upgrade::Automatic-Reboot option15:23
bdmurrayprobably should be retagged rls-nn-incoming given the recent email to ubuntu-devel15:24
vorlonI thought it was agreed we should JFDI15:24
vorlonbdmurray: sorry, which email?15:24
slyonbdmurray: is talking about the cups snap thing..15:24
juliankright15:24
vorlonah right15:24
vorlon2017401 - it's a functional regression. JFDI!15:25
juliankI don't think we had a conclusion for the u-u bug last week and wanted to discuss further outside the meeting but didn't15:25
mclemenceauI'll setup the meeting15:25
juliankwe're not livepatch PM15:25
julianklet's go to the next list15:27
juliank#link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ll-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:27
juliankthat one is empty, sorry15:27
juliank#link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:27
juliankbug 199079815:27
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1990798 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "do-release-upgrade fails if ESM enabled" [Critical, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199079815:28
juliankseems wrong to me, why would it fail?15:28
juliankwe don't add the repository if it's not enabled...15:29
juliankI mean there must be a bug in the pro client there15:30
juliankalso that pro client seemingly doesn't know about esm-apps, only infra, hmm15:30
julianklet me add an ubuntu-advantage-tools entry and set the one u-r-u one to Incomplete, because we need more info from the pro people what's going on15:31
juliankvery weird15:33
juliankthat wraps up the incoming bugs15:33
juliank(ff is empty)15:33
juliank#topic Team proposed-migration report15:33
juliank#link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs15:33
juliankI see ginggs created https://warthogs.atlassian.net/browse/FR-518715:33
juliankand the report is out of date apparently, not sure what we can do?15:33
juliank2023.08.24 05:52:36 UTC15:34
vorlonwe can assign from what's there and if that means people get a free pass, so be it15:34
juliankack15:34
vorlondanilogondolfo: any progress on vim?15:34
vorlondanilogondolfo: fwiw ppc64el is known to have less locked memory available than other archs15:34
danilogondolfovorlon, yes, I got it building on ppc64el. I'm still testing it15:35
vorlonok cool15:35
vorlonlots of "depends on glibc" - schopin what's the prognosis here? is more help still needed?15:35
vorlonbdrung: libregexp-pattern-license-perl, carry-over for you?15:35
slyonI can take libstring-license-perl, it probably needs a rebase of my previous component-mismatch handling. (cc bdrung)15:35
vorlonack, libregexp-pattern-license-perl vs libstring-license-perl moved to slyon15:36
schopinvorlon: The MPI thing is sorted but the glibc/armhf one is still a mystery. ginggs suggests we hint it anyway since it's actively being worked on15:36
bdrungvorlon, i only looked quickly into libregexp-pattern-license-perl. I spend more time on ubiquity.15:36
bdrungslyon, do you want to take it over?15:36
slyonyes15:36
vorlonglibc * requires glibc to migrate ya think15:36
* juliank hates glibc15:37
vorlonginggs: are you following up on glibc then?15:37
schopinjuliank: me too, this week.15:37
ginggsyes, i'll follow up15:37
vorlonjuliank: are you still working on tzdata?15:37
bdrungbtw, the casper autopkgtest seems to be flaky15:37
juliankvorlon: I don't think I ever started, I forgot to put it into the pulse or something15:38
juliankso I will start working on it :D15:38
vorlonjuliank: ok15:38
vorlonschopin, ginggs: I also still see combblas/armhf, h5py/armhf and mumax3/arm64 autopkgtest regressions outstanding on this report, are those being worked on?15:39
ginggscombblas, h5py are all MPI related15:40
schopinfirst two are MPI-related15:40
vorlonubiquity I'm giving back to mwhudson, I think we triaged this to needing another git dance with tzsetup from Debian; if he's not going to work on it he can pass it on to someone else15:40
schopinmumax is being worked on by mitchdz right now, it's presumably nvcc weirdness.15:40
vorlonginggs, schopin: ack.  Are we going to hold up for a resolution on mumax3 before migrating?15:41
bdrungvorlon, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/2031838 the ticket for ubiquity15:41
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2031838 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ftbfs with tzdata >= 2023c-8" [Undecided, New]15:41
vorlonsystemd: enr0n are you folliwng through on this?15:41
enr0nvorlon: yes15:41
vorlonkrb5, I'll take15:42
vorlons390-tools needs unapproved processing by an AA, I'll sort it15:42
ginggsi don't think we need to wait for a fix for mumax3, but if we want, a quick fix would be to make it amd64 only, it is not built on arm64 in debian, and did not build in jammy15:42
slyonvorlon: it also needs MIR15:42
vorlonslyon: which, s390-tools?15:43
slyonyes15:43
vorlonnew dep?15:43
slyonpulling in some of the rust ecosystem15:43
slyonhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/s390-tools/+bug/203048215:43
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2030482 in s390-tools (Ubuntu) "[MIR] s390-tools Rust dependencies (vendored)" [Undecided, Incomplete]15:43
vorlonwell I'll let the MIR be Frank's problem15:43
schopinACtually it's mine, but sure :)15:43
vorlonanyway, that's everything - long list of packages on here but mostly just waiting for glibc15:43
vorlonjuliank:15:44
juliank#topic AOB15:45
juliankany other business?15:45
vorlonginggs: I agree with ignoring mumax3 autopkgtest regression and if it ftbfs we can just remove the arm64 binaries in parallel15:45
bdrunghttps://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=mantic&arch=amd64&package=casper&trigger=initramfs-tools/0.142ubuntu12 gave me a "A server error occurred.  Please contact the administrator."15:45
juliankoh apparently I might have to take Monday half? off, seems a friend is going to be here15:45
ginggsvorlon: i've confirmed mumax3 does already FTBFS on arm6415:46
ginggsdo we need to make it Architecture: amd64 ?15:46
bdmurraythe administrators are looking at it15:46
slyonbdrung: see QA channel in MM15:46
vorlonschopin: oh krb5 is missing strlcat/strlcpy symbols, can I sync with you quickly afterwards about this?15:46
bdrungi might do the same as juliank on monday (family visit)15:46
schopinvorlon: sure.15:47
zhsjvorlon: this is already be discussed on Debian bug #104318415:47
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Debian bug 1043184 in src:krb5 "krb5: fails to build against glibc 2.38" [Important, Open] https://bugs.debian.org/104318415:47
vorlonzhsj: thanks for the pointer15:47
juliankI think that wraps it up here15:49
juliank#endmeeting15:49
meetingologyMeeting ended at 15:49:50 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-08-24-15.01.moin.txt15:49
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