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schopin | o/ | 15:01 |
juliank | #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team | 15:01 |
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dviererbe | o/ | 15:01 |
ginggs | o/ | 15:01 |
juliank | #topic Lightning rounds | 15:01 |
* vorlon waves | 15:01 | |
juliank | #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-24-aug-2023/ | 15:01 |
zhsj | o/ | 15:01 |
xypron | \o | 15:02 |
mateus-morais | o/ | 15:02 |
bdrung | \o | 15:02 |
bdmurray | cantankerous | 15:03 |
waveform | occasionally :) | 15:03 |
juliank | moo? | 15:03 |
bdmurray | DPaaS | 15:03 |
liushuyu | o/ | 15:03 |
waveform | I just couldn't come up with a good acronym... | 15:03 |
slyon | o/ | 15:04 |
mclemenceau | o/ | 15:09 |
juliank | #topic Release incoming bugs | 15:10 |
juliank | #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 15:10 |
juliank | bug 2031909 | 15:10 |
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2031909 in glibc (Ubuntu) "tinydns: allocation failures with glibc 2.38/s390x" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2031909 | 15:10 | |
juliank | schopin: ^ | 15:11 |
schopin | Oh right. danilogondolfo fixed the symptoms, but I'm a bit worried about it still since the fix is to double the applied limit, which seems excessive. | 15:12 |
vorlon | juliank: I didn't notice if you replied to my last ping; are all the grub zfs regressions sorted now in mantic(-proposed)? | 15:13 |
schopin | So I think we need to take the time to investigate it some more to see if that's not an actual bug in glibc that causes excess memory usage. | 15:13 |
danilogondolfo | well, to be fair, the was a patch already increasing that limit, I just increased it a bit more :) | 15:13 |
schopin | The patch was going from 3 to 4, you went straight to 8 :D | 15:13 |
bdmurray | why not 11? | 15:14 |
juliank | vorlon: to the best of my knowledge they should be, yes, I don't remember seing a ping | 15:14 |
vorlon | juliank: ack thanks | 15:14 |
danilogondolfo | bdmurray, next glibc will require 11 I'm pretty sure | 15:15 |
juliank | should we tag this todo? | 15:15 |
juliank | someone will complain about this later likely :D | 15:15 |
schopin | I say yes (obviously) | 15:15 |
juliank | counting down from 3 | 15:16 |
juliank | 0 | 15:16 |
juliank | Added the tag | 15:16 |
juliank | bug 2031685 | 15:16 |
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2031685 in rustc (Ubuntu) "rust-doc depends on fonts-nanum, should use system Korean font instead" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2031685 | 15:16 | |
juliank | some vorlon font stuff | 15:16 |
vorlon | if we wind up excluding rust-doc from main, then this doesn't need to be foundations-todo | 15:17 |
vorlon | but it's still a bug :) | 15:17 |
juliank | We already matain a delta/are ahead so it wouldn't be a hard hit to do that | 15:17 |
vorlon | the dependency on fonts-nanum is itself a delta | 15:18 |
juliank | vorlon: is rust-doc demotion in progress? should we revisit this next week then? | 15:18 |
slyon | all of rust is currently in universe (still) | 15:18 |
vorlon | I wouldn't say it's in progress; it was a suggestion from (I think) slyon in response to this | 15:18 |
slyon | pending security review of cargo | 15:18 |
slyon | vorlon: I think excluding rust-doc was suggested as part of the initial MIR | 15:19 |
vorlon | slyon: can you point me to the bug? we could add it to Extra-Excludes: now and drop this off the list | 15:19 |
schopin | definitely was. | 15:19 |
slyon | vorlon: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rustc/+bug/1957932/comments/3 | 15:20 |
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1957932 in rustc (Ubuntu) "[MIR] rustc, cargo, dh-cargo" [Critical, Fix Released] | 15:20 | |
slyon | "Specific binary packages built, but NOT to be promoted to main: rust-doc, rust-src, rust-all" | 15:20 |
juliank | +1 | 15:21 |
vorlon | thanks, let's lose the tag then | 15:21 |
juliank | ack | 15:22 |
juliank | bug 2017401 | 15:22 |
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2017401 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu) "Unexpected / unwanted unattended-upgrades behaviour after kernel upgrade when Livepatch enabled" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2017401 | 15:22 | |
juliank | I think next step is meeting and discussing | 15:22 |
juliank | but also server is doing stuff | 15:22 |
juliank | and bug 2029148 is a desktop issue | 15:23 |
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2029148 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "cups snap - can't add printer" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2029148 | 15:23 | |
vorlon | this bug report is simply about the regression in support for the Unattended-Upgrade::Automatic-Reboot option | 15:23 |
bdmurray | probably should be retagged rls-nn-incoming given the recent email to ubuntu-devel | 15:24 |
vorlon | I thought it was agreed we should JFDI | 15:24 |
vorlon | bdmurray: sorry, which email? | 15:24 |
slyon | bdmurray: is talking about the cups snap thing.. | 15:24 |
juliank | right | 15:24 |
vorlon | ah right | 15:24 |
vorlon | 2017401 - it's a functional regression. JFDI! | 15:25 |
juliank | I don't think we had a conclusion for the u-u bug last week and wanted to discuss further outside the meeting but didn't | 15:25 |
mclemenceau | I'll setup the meeting | 15:25 |
juliank | we're not livepatch PM | 15:25 |
juliank | let's go to the next list | 15:27 |
juliank | #link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ll-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 15:27 |
juliank | that one is empty, sorry | 15:27 |
juliank | #link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 15:27 |
juliank | bug 1990798 | 15:27 |
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1990798 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "do-release-upgrade fails if ESM enabled" [Critical, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1990798 | 15:28 | |
juliank | seems wrong to me, why would it fail? | 15:28 |
juliank | we don't add the repository if it's not enabled... | 15:29 |
juliank | I mean there must be a bug in the pro client there | 15:30 |
juliank | also that pro client seemingly doesn't know about esm-apps, only infra, hmm | 15:30 |
juliank | let me add an ubuntu-advantage-tools entry and set the one u-r-u one to Incomplete, because we need more info from the pro people what's going on | 15:31 |
juliank | very weird | 15:33 |
juliank | that wraps up the incoming bugs | 15:33 |
juliank | (ff is empty) | 15:33 |
juliank | #topic Team proposed-migration report | 15:33 |
juliank | #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs | 15:33 |
juliank | I see ginggs created https://warthogs.atlassian.net/browse/FR-5187 | 15:33 |
juliank | and the report is out of date apparently, not sure what we can do? | 15:33 |
juliank | 2023.08.24 05:52:36 UTC | 15:34 |
vorlon | we can assign from what's there and if that means people get a free pass, so be it | 15:34 |
juliank | ack | 15:34 |
vorlon | danilogondolfo: any progress on vim? | 15:34 |
vorlon | danilogondolfo: fwiw ppc64el is known to have less locked memory available than other archs | 15:34 |
danilogondolfo | vorlon, yes, I got it building on ppc64el. I'm still testing it | 15:35 |
vorlon | ok cool | 15:35 |
vorlon | lots of "depends on glibc" - schopin what's the prognosis here? is more help still needed? | 15:35 |
vorlon | bdrung: libregexp-pattern-license-perl, carry-over for you? | 15:35 |
slyon | I can take libstring-license-perl, it probably needs a rebase of my previous component-mismatch handling. (cc bdrung) | 15:35 |
vorlon | ack, libregexp-pattern-license-perl vs libstring-license-perl moved to slyon | 15:36 |
schopin | vorlon: The MPI thing is sorted but the glibc/armhf one is still a mystery. ginggs suggests we hint it anyway since it's actively being worked on | 15:36 |
bdrung | vorlon, i only looked quickly into libregexp-pattern-license-perl. I spend more time on ubiquity. | 15:36 |
bdrung | slyon, do you want to take it over? | 15:36 |
slyon | yes | 15:36 |
vorlon | glibc * requires glibc to migrate ya think | 15:36 |
* juliank hates glibc | 15:37 | |
vorlon | ginggs: are you following up on glibc then? | 15:37 |
schopin | juliank: me too, this week. | 15:37 |
ginggs | yes, i'll follow up | 15:37 |
vorlon | juliank: are you still working on tzdata? | 15:37 |
bdrung | btw, the casper autopkgtest seems to be flaky | 15:37 |
juliank | vorlon: I don't think I ever started, I forgot to put it into the pulse or something | 15:38 |
juliank | so I will start working on it :D | 15:38 |
vorlon | juliank: ok | 15:38 |
vorlon | schopin, ginggs: I also still see combblas/armhf, h5py/armhf and mumax3/arm64 autopkgtest regressions outstanding on this report, are those being worked on? | 15:39 |
ginggs | combblas, h5py are all MPI related | 15:40 |
schopin | first two are MPI-related | 15:40 |
vorlon | ubiquity I'm giving back to mwhudson, I think we triaged this to needing another git dance with tzsetup from Debian; if he's not going to work on it he can pass it on to someone else | 15:40 |
schopin | mumax is being worked on by mitchdz right now, it's presumably nvcc weirdness. | 15:40 |
vorlon | ginggs, schopin: ack. Are we going to hold up for a resolution on mumax3 before migrating? | 15:41 |
bdrung | vorlon, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/2031838 the ticket for ubiquity | 15:41 |
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2031838 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ftbfs with tzdata >= 2023c-8" [Undecided, New] | 15:41 | |
vorlon | systemd: enr0n are you folliwng through on this? | 15:41 |
enr0n | vorlon: yes | 15:41 |
vorlon | krb5, I'll take | 15:42 |
vorlon | s390-tools needs unapproved processing by an AA, I'll sort it | 15:42 |
ginggs | i don't think we need to wait for a fix for mumax3, but if we want, a quick fix would be to make it amd64 only, it is not built on arm64 in debian, and did not build in jammy | 15:42 |
slyon | vorlon: it also needs MIR | 15:42 |
vorlon | slyon: which, s390-tools? | 15:43 |
slyon | yes | 15:43 |
vorlon | new dep? | 15:43 |
slyon | pulling in some of the rust ecosystem | 15:43 |
slyon | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/s390-tools/+bug/2030482 | 15:43 |
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2030482 in s390-tools (Ubuntu) "[MIR] s390-tools Rust dependencies (vendored)" [Undecided, Incomplete] | 15:43 | |
vorlon | well I'll let the MIR be Frank's problem | 15:43 |
schopin | ACtually it's mine, but sure :) | 15:43 |
vorlon | anyway, that's everything - long list of packages on here but mostly just waiting for glibc | 15:43 |
vorlon | juliank: | 15:44 |
juliank | #topic AOB | 15:45 |
juliank | any other business? | 15:45 |
vorlon | ginggs: I agree with ignoring mumax3 autopkgtest regression and if it ftbfs we can just remove the arm64 binaries in parallel | 15:45 |
bdrung | https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=mantic&arch=amd64&package=casper&trigger=initramfs-tools/0.142ubuntu12 gave me a "A server error occurred. Please contact the administrator." | 15:45 |
juliank | oh apparently I might have to take Monday half? off, seems a friend is going to be here | 15:45 |
ginggs | vorlon: i've confirmed mumax3 does already FTBFS on arm64 | 15:46 |
ginggs | do we need to make it Architecture: amd64 ? | 15:46 |
bdmurray | the administrators are looking at it | 15:46 |
slyon | bdrung: see QA channel in MM | 15:46 |
vorlon | schopin: oh krb5 is missing strlcat/strlcpy symbols, can I sync with you quickly afterwards about this? | 15:46 |
bdrung | i might do the same as juliank on monday (family visit) | 15:46 |
schopin | vorlon: sure. | 15:47 |
zhsj | vorlon: this is already be discussed on Debian bug #1043184 | 15:47 |
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Debian bug 1043184 in src:krb5 "krb5: fails to build against glibc 2.38" [Important, Open] https://bugs.debian.org/1043184 | 15:47 | |
vorlon | zhsj: thanks for the pointer | 15:47 |
juliank | I think that wraps it up here | 15:49 |
juliank | #endmeeting | 15:49 |
meetingology | Meeting ended at 15:49:50 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-08-24-15.01.moin.txt | 15:49 |
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