[15:01] <pushkarnk> o/
[15:01] <dbungert> o/
[15:01] <schopin> o/
[15:01] <juliank> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
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[15:01] <dviererbe> o/
[15:01] <ginggs> o/
[15:01] <juliank> #topic Lightning rounds
[15:01]  * vorlon waves
[15:01] <juliank> #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-24-aug-2023/
[15:01] <zhsj> o/
[15:02] <xypron> \o
[15:02] <mateus-morais> o/
[15:02] <bdrung> \o
[15:03] <bdmurray> cantankerous
[15:03] <waveform> occasionally :)
[15:03] <juliank> moo?
[15:03] <bdmurray> DPaaS
[15:03] <liushuyu> o/
[15:03] <waveform> I just couldn't come up with a good acronym...
[15:04] <slyon> o/
[15:09] <mclemenceau> o/
[15:10] <juliank> #topic Release incoming bugs
[15:10] <juliank> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:10] <juliank> bug 2031909
[15:10] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2031909 in glibc (Ubuntu) "tinydns: allocation failures with glibc 2.38/s390x" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2031909
[15:11] <juliank> schopin: ^
[15:12] <schopin> Oh right. danilogondolfo fixed the symptoms, but I'm a bit worried about it still since the fix is to double the applied limit, which seems excessive.
[15:13] <vorlon> juliank: I didn't notice if you replied to my last ping; are all the grub zfs regressions sorted now in mantic(-proposed)?
[15:13] <schopin> So I think we need to take the time to investigate it some more to see if that's not an actual bug in glibc that causes excess memory usage.
[15:13] <danilogondolfo> well, to be fair, the was a patch already increasing that limit, I just increased it a bit more :)
[15:13] <schopin> The patch was going from 3 to 4, you went straight to 8 :D
[15:14] <bdmurray> why not 11?
[15:14] <juliank> vorlon: to the best of my knowledge they should be, yes, I don't remember seing a ping
[15:14] <vorlon> juliank: ack thanks
[15:15] <danilogondolfo> bdmurray, next glibc will require 11 I'm pretty sure
[15:15] <juliank> should we tag this todo?
[15:15] <juliank> someone will complain about this later likely :D
[15:15] <schopin> I say yes (obviously)
[15:16] <juliank> counting down from 3
[15:16] <juliank> 0
[15:16] <juliank> Added the tag
[15:16] <juliank> bug 2031685
[15:16] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2031685 in rustc (Ubuntu) "rust-doc depends on fonts-nanum, should use system Korean font instead" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2031685
[15:16] <juliank> some vorlon font stuff
[15:17] <vorlon> if we wind up excluding rust-doc from main, then this doesn't need to be foundations-todo
[15:17] <vorlon> but it's still a bug :)
[15:17] <juliank> We already matain a delta/are ahead so it wouldn't be a hard hit to do that
[15:18] <vorlon> the dependency on fonts-nanum is itself a delta
[15:18] <juliank> vorlon: is rust-doc demotion in progress? should we revisit this next week then?
[15:18] <slyon> all of rust is currently in universe (still)
[15:18] <vorlon> I wouldn't say it's in progress; it was a suggestion from (I think) slyon in response to this
[15:18] <slyon> pending security review of cargo
[15:19] <slyon> vorlon: I think excluding rust-doc was suggested as part of the initial MIR
[15:19] <vorlon> slyon: can you point me to the bug? we could add it to Extra-Excludes: now and drop this off the list
[15:19] <schopin> definitely was.
[15:20] <slyon> vorlon: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rustc/+bug/1957932/comments/3
[15:20] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1957932 in rustc (Ubuntu) "[MIR] rustc, cargo, dh-cargo" [Critical, Fix Released]
[15:20] <slyon> "Specific binary packages built, but NOT to be promoted to main: rust-doc, rust-src, rust-all"
[15:21] <juliank> +1
[15:21] <vorlon> thanks, let's lose the tag then
[15:22] <juliank> ack
[15:22] <juliank> bug 2017401
[15:22] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2017401 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu) "Unexpected / unwanted unattended-upgrades behaviour after kernel upgrade when Livepatch enabled" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2017401
[15:22] <juliank> I think next step is meeting and discussing
[15:22] <juliank> but also server is doing stuff
[15:23] <juliank> and bug 2029148 is a desktop issue
[15:23] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2029148 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "cups snap - can't add printer" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2029148
[15:23] <vorlon> this bug report is simply about the regression in support for the Unattended-Upgrade::Automatic-Reboot option
[15:24] <bdmurray> probably should be retagged rls-nn-incoming given the recent email to ubuntu-devel
[15:24] <vorlon> I thought it was agreed we should JFDI
[15:24] <vorlon> bdmurray: sorry, which email?
[15:24] <slyon> bdmurray: is talking about the cups snap thing..
[15:24] <juliank> right
[15:24] <vorlon> ah right
[15:25] <vorlon> 2017401 - it's a functional regression. JFDI!
[15:25] <juliank> I don't think we had a conclusion for the u-u bug last week and wanted to discuss further outside the meeting but didn't
[15:25] <mclemenceau> I'll setup the meeting
[15:25] <juliank> we're not livepatch PM
[15:27] <juliank> let's go to the next list
[15:27] <juliank> #link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ll-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:27] <juliank> that one is empty, sorry
[15:27] <juliank> #link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:27] <juliank> bug 1990798
[15:28] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1990798 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "do-release-upgrade fails if ESM enabled" [Critical, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1990798
[15:28] <juliank> seems wrong to me, why would it fail?
[15:29] <juliank> we don't add the repository if it's not enabled...
[15:30] <juliank> I mean there must be a bug in the pro client there
[15:30] <juliank> also that pro client seemingly doesn't know about esm-apps, only infra, hmm
[15:31] <juliank> let me add an ubuntu-advantage-tools entry and set the one u-r-u one to Incomplete, because we need more info from the pro people what's going on
[15:33] <juliank> very weird
[15:33] <juliank> that wraps up the incoming bugs
[15:33] <juliank> (ff is empty)
[15:33] <juliank> #topic Team proposed-migration report
[15:33] <juliank> #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[15:33] <juliank> I see ginggs created https://warthogs.atlassian.net/browse/FR-5187
[15:33] <juliank> and the report is out of date apparently, not sure what we can do?
[15:34] <juliank> 2023.08.24 05:52:36 UTC
[15:34] <vorlon> we can assign from what's there and if that means people get a free pass, so be it
[15:34] <juliank> ack
[15:34] <vorlon> danilogondolfo: any progress on vim?
[15:34] <vorlon> danilogondolfo: fwiw ppc64el is known to have less locked memory available than other archs
[15:35] <danilogondolfo> vorlon, yes, I got it building on ppc64el. I'm still testing it
[15:35] <vorlon> ok cool
[15:35] <vorlon> lots of "depends on glibc" - schopin what's the prognosis here? is more help still needed?
[15:35] <vorlon> bdrung: libregexp-pattern-license-perl, carry-over for you?
[15:35] <slyon> I can take libstring-license-perl, it probably needs a rebase of my previous component-mismatch handling. (cc bdrung)
[15:36] <vorlon> ack, libregexp-pattern-license-perl vs libstring-license-perl moved to slyon
[15:36] <schopin> vorlon: The MPI thing is sorted but the glibc/armhf one is still a mystery. ginggs suggests we hint it anyway since it's actively being worked on
[15:36] <bdrung> vorlon, i only looked quickly into libregexp-pattern-license-perl. I spend more time on ubiquity.
[15:36] <bdrung> slyon, do you want to take it over?
[15:36] <slyon> yes
[15:36] <vorlon> glibc * requires glibc to migrate ya think
[15:37]  * juliank hates glibc
[15:37] <vorlon> ginggs: are you following up on glibc then?
[15:37] <schopin> juliank: me too, this week.
[15:37] <ginggs> yes, i'll follow up
[15:37] <vorlon> juliank: are you still working on tzdata?
[15:37] <bdrung> btw, the casper autopkgtest seems to be flaky
[15:38] <juliank> vorlon: I don't think I ever started, I forgot to put it into the pulse or something
[15:38] <juliank> so I will start working on it :D
[15:38] <vorlon> juliank: ok
[15:39] <vorlon> schopin, ginggs: I also still see combblas/armhf, h5py/armhf and mumax3/arm64 autopkgtest regressions outstanding on this report, are those being worked on?
[15:40] <ginggs> combblas, h5py are all MPI related
[15:40] <schopin> first two are MPI-related
[15:40] <vorlon> ubiquity I'm giving back to mwhudson, I think we triaged this to needing another git dance with tzsetup from Debian; if he's not going to work on it he can pass it on to someone else
[15:40] <schopin> mumax is being worked on by mitchdz right now, it's presumably nvcc weirdness.
[15:41] <vorlon> ginggs, schopin: ack.  Are we going to hold up for a resolution on mumax3 before migrating?
[15:41] <bdrung> vorlon, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/2031838 the ticket for ubiquity
[15:41] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2031838 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ftbfs with tzdata >= 2023c-8" [Undecided, New]
[15:41] <vorlon> systemd: enr0n are you folliwng through on this?
[15:41] <enr0n> vorlon: yes
[15:42] <vorlon> krb5, I'll take
[15:42] <vorlon> s390-tools needs unapproved processing by an AA, I'll sort it
[15:42] <ginggs> i don't think we need to wait for a fix for mumax3, but if we want, a quick fix would be to make it amd64 only, it is not built on arm64 in debian, and did not build in jammy
[15:42] <slyon> vorlon: it also needs MIR
[15:43] <vorlon> slyon: which, s390-tools?
[15:43] <slyon> yes
[15:43] <vorlon> new dep?
[15:43] <slyon> pulling in some of the rust ecosystem
[15:43] <slyon> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/s390-tools/+bug/2030482
[15:43] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2030482 in s390-tools (Ubuntu) "[MIR] s390-tools Rust dependencies (vendored)" [Undecided, Incomplete]
[15:43] <vorlon> well I'll let the MIR be Frank's problem
[15:43] <schopin> ACtually it's mine, but sure :)
[15:43] <vorlon> anyway, that's everything - long list of packages on here but mostly just waiting for glibc
[15:44] <vorlon> juliank:
[15:45] <juliank> #topic AOB
[15:45] <juliank> any other business?
[15:45] <vorlon> ginggs: I agree with ignoring mumax3 autopkgtest regression and if it ftbfs we can just remove the arm64 binaries in parallel
[15:45] <bdrung> https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=mantic&arch=amd64&package=casper&trigger=initramfs-tools/0.142ubuntu12 gave me a "A server error occurred.  Please contact the administrator."
[15:45] <juliank> oh apparently I might have to take Monday half? off, seems a friend is going to be here
[15:46] <ginggs> vorlon: i've confirmed mumax3 does already FTBFS on arm64
[15:46] <ginggs> do we need to make it Architecture: amd64 ?
[15:46] <bdmurray> the administrators are looking at it
[15:46] <slyon> bdrung: see QA channel in MM
[15:46] <vorlon> schopin: oh krb5 is missing strlcat/strlcpy symbols, can I sync with you quickly afterwards about this?
[15:46] <bdrung> i might do the same as juliank on monday (family visit)
[15:47] <schopin> vorlon: sure.
[15:47] <zhsj> vorlon: this is already be discussed on Debian bug #1043184
[15:47] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Debian bug 1043184 in src:krb5 "krb5: fails to build against glibc 2.38" [Important, Open] https://bugs.debian.org/1043184
[15:47] <vorlon> zhsj: thanks for the pointer
[15:49] <juliank> I think that wraps it up here
[15:49] <juliank> #endmeeting
[15:49] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 15:49:50 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-08-24-15.01.moin.txt