[00:00] <sarnold> heh, that's not promising :)
[00:01] <ash_m> well, w/e I'll have to figure out why later I guess; do _you_ use other communication mediums on your computer (ie telegram)?
[00:01] <sarnold> no, telegram, matrix, whatsapp, I only use through apps on my phone
[00:02] <ash_m> I kind of thought that
[00:04] <ash_m> there's a listing of clients on matrix.org which I was looking at; clicking on one details it's capabilities such as "[v] e2ee" or "[x] sso"; one of them is "spaces"... any idea what that means?
[00:07] <sarnold> matrix has a billion features on their roadmap
[00:07] <sarnold> https://element.io/blog/spaces-the-next-frontier/
[00:07] <sarnold> ... I'm still not sure what it means
[00:08] <bitbinge> most of which will never be accomplished
[00:12] <ash_m> oh space is like a group I guess
[03:52] <gudoshnikov_na> hi
[04:57] <fraznel> hey all i'm on bionic and need to get python 3.7.6 or 3.8.1
[04:57] <fraznel> anyone know of a relatively painless way of getting these? seems the official deps are one minor revision behind for both (3.7.5 and 3.8.0)
[04:58] <rbox> pyenv
[05:01] <fraznel> hmm seems not a debian for it
[05:02] <fraznel> oh balls, build from scratch again whewww why do folks use ancient versions of ubuntu
[07:42] <monday> yo
[07:42] <monday> i cant see any output when doing commands
[07:42] <monday> like whois or list
[07:42] <monday> im on irssi
[07:43] <elias_a> monday: Hardly a Ubuntu support issue.
[07:43] <monday> you monkey
[07:44] <monday> where am i supposed to join if the list command doesnt output anything
[07:44] <monday> i have no choice
[07:44] <monday> send me a channel for my issue or some
[07:45] <elias_a> monday: #irssi on libera.chat
[07:48] <elias_a> Honestly - it is a bit frustrating to be on a channel where angoloamerican twits can't get even the basics of asking questions on an OS invented by a Finn and using Irssi which also has been programmed originalli by a Finn.
[07:49] <elias_a> I am saying this as a Finn of course.
[09:02] <Tehdastehdas> How to view reviews in Snap Store? How to edit my review?
[09:10] <weedmic> Tehdastehdas: you can list your snap apps with "snap list" - but it appears you want to know what is available in snap format.  you can read this, unsure if it helps (very long english for me) https://askubuntu.com/questions/806780/how-can-i-get-snappy-to-list-all-available-snap-packages
[09:21] <Tehdastehdas> weebmic, I mean the graphical Snap Store in Ubuntu app menu.
[09:22] <Tehdastehdas> * weedmic
[09:26] <weedmic> :D weeb - is dat een woordt?
[09:28] <weedmic> perhaps this - https://snapcraft.io/install/snap-store/ubuntu
[09:47] <Tehdastehdas> weedmic, that's the one. The ad says "reviews" but all I can see is my own, no matter where I click.
[09:48] <Tehdastehdas> Weird that the Snap Store doesn't have an "about" where I could see its exact name. Every other app has.
[10:24] <weedmic> Tehdastehdas: I only know about snap b/c I found out that my firefox (in ubuntu) was snap and it does not allow/offer an option to install security modules which meant I could not connect to any company sites w my key and was being pressured to switch to windoze (which I have not used since 1995).  However, I found out how to remove snap firefox and replace it with real firefox, and 5 mins later - was connected.  very happy w/o snap.
[10:25] <weedmic> but... i understand the lure - less testing if you just accept a snap device - faster release releases (unsure if that is english).
[10:31] <ogra> Tehdastehdas, the snap store app is just gnome-software packaged as a snap ... reviews are handled via whatever gnome-sorftware uses upstream, there is nothing fancy or ubuntu-ish in it ... as i told you before, you should talk to the maintainers in #ubuntu-desktop (though i guess they can not do a lot about this, likely only redhat can)
[10:33] <ogra> (luckily that app will go away with the next ubuntu release and will switch to a properly maintainable thing)
[10:48] <weedmic> I don't understand the ultimate goal/need, but I could probably get you a printed list of every working/current snap app, but it would be text.  Does that help you in any way Tehdastehdas
[10:55] <Tehdastehdas> weedmic, I'd rather find a graphical way to read and edit snap reviews. If Snap Store is going away, waiting will solve the problem.
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows howto zoom with a cam in ubuntu, i dont find an option in cheese or kamoso right away
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> oh, i found a snap here interesting https://snapcraft.io/cameractrls
[11:43] <ioria> lotuspsychje, if you have vlc already installed, you can try with it
[11:57] <weedmic> lotuspsychje: I don't undestand the question, but you can install cheese and experiment to find the setting you like/need.
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> weedmic: cheese is already installed by default and doesnt have a zoom function
[11:59] <weedmic> I'll believe you, but I"m at work and cannot tell - perhaps the function was inside whatever confercing software I was using.
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> trying guvcview but no zoom option either
[12:05] <Grabunhold__> hey guys! I'm using an autoinstaller for ubuntu 20.04, and just today it stopped working. I'm using curl in the user-data field "late-commands", and it bombs out with curl: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.33' not found (required by /snap/subiquity/5004/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpsl.so.5)
[12:06] <Grabunhold__> any ideas?
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> Grabunhold__: that might be something for the #ubuntu-server experts perhaps
[12:06] <Grabunhold__> lotuspsychje: oh i didn't know about that channel, will take my question there. thanks :)
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> good luck!
[12:07] <Grabunhold__> for you too, unfortunately i don't know anything about webcams...
[13:11] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:31] <danil> Hello
[15:33] <spotter> I am having "calendar" event chimes, but no way to view them / dismiss them
[15:33] <spotter> they just chime every so often
[15:33] <spotter> any ideas?
[15:35] <spotter> this only happened after I added google calendar to my system.  At first, I had no good way of viewing them (got a really old X looking popup / window that allows me to dismiss or snooze).  Then I installed evolution and now I get a tray area temp popup that is temporary (along with the old X looking window I described before)
[15:36] <spotter> it as if my system gets into a state where an event didn't get dismissed but there's no window for it.  I can only stop it from chiming every so often if I restart my session
[16:32] <Mordex51> hello world
[16:32] <Mordex51> is there anyone here who knows how to invoke the windows 11 artificial intelligence, what needs to be proven for the OS to lead the desktop?
[16:36] <oerheks> Mordex51, totally offtopic, seek support in windows channels , thanks
[16:38] <Mordex51> ok thanks
[17:13] <spotter> uno one knows a about my calendar chime issue?
[17:15] <BlueToother9911> If I have an Ubuntu system that I'd like to move from one M.2 drive to another, the old is 128GB and the new is 256GB, what is my best option for moving everything and it just working? I'm imagining something like booting to a USB stick, using something like DD or CloneZilla to copy the disk from one to the other. After this, I suppose I'd resize the main partiion?
[17:26] <jhutchins> BlueToother9911: I would suggest using a file copy utility like rsync.  Be sure to look up the proper options to copy extended attributes and such.
[17:27] <jhutchins> BlueToother9911: I would do a single partition or swap+data partitions taking up the whole disk.
[17:27] <jhutchins> BlueToother9911: (What is an "M.2" drive?)
[17:29] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MovingLinuxPartition#Step_3:_Clone_Ubuntu_partition_to_new_location
[17:29] <jhutchins> oerheks: Nice.
[17:29] <oerheks> m2 can be the new interface with Sata or NVME..
[17:29] <jhutchins> Ah, thanks.
[17:29] <oerheks> 1500mb/s ..
[17:33] <BlueToother9911> jhutchins: M.2 form factor. These are NVME.
[17:34] <jhutchins> BlueToother9911: Ah.
[17:34] <oerheks> important part is after cloning, to update UUID's
[17:34] <oerheks> good luck!
[17:36] <jhutchins> oerheks: Ah, good point!
[17:37] <oerheks> that would be step 4 in that wiki
[18:36] <highrate> trying to use dconf-edtior to disable auto mount
[18:37] <highrate> search for it, find 2 options, but when trying to staff off, i get "(dconf-editor:55347): dconf-WARNING **: 10:34:40.961: failed to commit changes to dconf: The connection is closed
[18:37] <highrate> "
[18:38] <highrate> wont let me turn off
[18:38] <highrate> basically i just need to turn off automounting of some external usb drives
[18:38] <oerheks> did you unmount the partitions that are auto mounted now?
[18:38] <highrate> no
[18:38] <oerheks> do that.. then try again, or..
[18:39] <oerheks> # gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.media-handling automount false
[18:39] <oerheks> # gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.media-handling automount-open false
[18:39] <oerheks> logout and login again
[18:39] <highrate> k
[18:44] <highrate> should run those as root or user?
[18:45] <highrate> global settings, so root like u said?
[18:47] <oerheks> for global/all users, use this method; same for all gnome installs https://access.redhat.com/solutions/20107#
[19:08] <highrate> oerheks: the drive pops up on the gnome taskbar, but i dont think its mounted
[19:08] <highrate> i ran those command's and even restarted
[19:08] <oerheks> indeed, just connected.
[19:08] <highrate> okay
[19:09] <oerheks> gsettings set org.gnome.shell.extensions.dash-to-dock show-mounts false
[19:10] <oerheks> they would still show up in nautilus ..
[19:10] <highrate> i do 'mount | grep sdb' and nothing pops up, so /dev/sdb not mounted
[19:10] <oerheks> try sdb1 ?
[19:11] <highrate> sdb1 would show up in the grep
[19:11] <highrate> so this is what i want
[19:11] <oerheks> oke
[19:11] <highrate> dmesg shows drive as sdb
[19:12] <oerheks> yes, as disk, not as partition
[19:15] <highrate>  /dev/sda doesn't show in 'fdisk -l'
[19:15] <highrate> er, i mean /dev/sdb
[19:15] <highrate> so drive is bad
[19:16] <highrate> dmesg says: [  975.203929] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Synchronize Cache(10) failed: Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[19:16] <oerheks> remove it, it is just using power for nothing
[19:17] <highrate> ya, just a test
[19:17] <highrate> gotta test some other drives too
[19:18] <highrate> just wanted to make sure ubuntu wasn't trying to mount after i connect the drive
[19:22] <yendor_> hi
[19:22] <yendor_> anyone can help me  please
[19:22] <yendor_> i cant start the mysql service
[19:23] <jhutchins> Please use the channel for the OS you are actually running.  Debian and Ubuntu are different Operating Systems.
[19:39] <dreamon> hello. having a big issue copy and paste. if I select a text by mouse, rightclick copy. mark a part of text I want to replace it with earlier marked text and choosing paste. it pastes text I select second. what can I do?
[19:39] <oerheks> remove the 1st selection first, then paste 2nd selection, logically
[19:41] <oerheks> i use copyQ on wayland, tons of settings to avoid cluther mouse and copy selection
[19:42] <dreamon> example: double click on word: "hello" rightclick copy. doubleclick on word "replace" (hello is not marked anymore) rightklick paste. It writes down replace
[19:43] <oerheks> just select the word replace, not clicking anything. then click to paste?
[19:45] <dreamon> as I said. not clicking anythin else
[19:46] <highrate> so i have a drive with 4 partitions, if i make an image file of each partition I can use 'mount' on that iamge file just as if it were a drive partition.  no?
[19:46] <dreamon> all what I'm selecting it goes into clipboard manager. I dont have to choose copy. only selecting..
[19:47] <oerheks> highrate, yes, i think so
[19:47] <oerheks> dreamon, so copy the 1st, not just selecting...
[19:47] <oerheks> what paste app do you use?
[19:48] <dreamon> I did it last 100years this way. I cannot change my behavior.. x:(
[19:49] <dreamon> xfce4 clipboard manager I think. but all of them didnt worked for me. copyq also
[19:50] <dreamon> clipman at the moment
[19:51] <dreamon> xubuntu 22.04
[19:57] <jaka> hello
[20:35] <camutze> ok
[20:41] <xbox> ?
[22:05] <ash_m> ravage: when you said "for telegram and all other messangers i moved to matrix", did you mean in lieu of telegram and messengers or you're able to use telegram through matrix?
[22:06] <ravage> telegram through matrix
[22:06] <oerheks> matrix-telegram, it should not be allowed on #libera
[22:08] <ash_m> ravage: can you link me to docs that tell you how to do that?
[22:08] <ash_m> oerheks: what do you mean?
[22:09] <oerheks> those clients do not respect irc and send messages days after the questioneer is gone
[22:09] <oerheks> stupid, plain stupid
[22:09] <oerheks> no parts/joins, terrible
[22:10] <Eickmeyer> Offtopic, everyone.
[22:10] <ash_m> oerheks: I'm not entirely sure what your saying... or I am missing something... but my intention is to use telegram through matrix; not send anything to Libera
[22:11] <ash_m> Eickmeyer: yeah, I know, but ravage was the only person I know that knows how to do that and I know it's not great to PM someone out of the blue
[22:11] <Eickmeyer> ash_m: That's why #ubuntu-offtopic exists.
[22:11] <ash_m> pardon me :)
[22:12] <ash_m> ravage: <moved>
[22:15] <ntopng> can we talk about ntopng?
[22:16] <Eickmeyer> !support
[22:18] <oerheks> ntopng could be usefull, when run not on the server itself
[22:37] <ash_m> -