[01:30] <toddc> HP laptop fresh install Synaptics touch pad works with live but not found after install and updates?
[01:31] <toddc> 22.04 standard gnome
[03:22] <ubuntu__>   /join #networking
[03:24] <ubuntu__> test
[05:44] <fdan> Hi there, how to ignore if we have a filesystem.
[05:44] <fdan> i dont want to ignore for all other errors
[05:44] <fdan> any idea on this?
[05:44] <fdan> https://dpaste.org/6UjSS#L15
[05:44] <fdan> since its linux based, thought of asking here
[05:56] <EriC^^> fdan: you have to unmount the filesystem
[05:56] <EriC^^> fdan: sudo umount /dev/sdb
[05:56] <fdan> i dont want to unmount
[05:57] <fdan> i just want the task to proceed incase if filesystem is already there in use
[05:57] <EriC^^> fdan: that's asking for trouble, and i dont think it will do that
[05:57] <EriC^^> why do you not want to unmount?
[05:58] <fdan> why trouble? we could write a script in such a way that it tests for a filesystem before that, and skip that task if it detected one.
[05:58] <EriC^^> fdan: if it's mounted then there's a filesystem mounted
[06:02] <EriC^^> fdan: trouble cause sometimes stuff is in the cache and is written later to the disk, so if you create a fresh filesystem maybe it will write stuff to the disk later on your new filesystem, i'm just guessing
[09:42] <iomari891> Greetings, Is there any way to backup the /snap folder while the system is running?
[09:43] <ravage> what is stopping you from doing it?
[09:44] <iomari891> Doesn't /snap have locked files?
[09:45] <ravage> possible. it is probably not wise to backup anyway
[09:46] <ravage> better backup /var/lib/snapd/snaps
[09:46] <elias_a> This leads to following question: can a user rely settings of snaps are backed up if /home is backed up?
[09:46] <ravage> or /var/lib/snapd in general
[09:47] <ravage> as the users snap dir is in your home directory. yes.
[09:49] <iomari891> d
[09:49] <iomari891> my /snap is taking a lot of space on my / partition. I want to move it's contents  to another drive and link it back to /snap.
[09:50] <ravage> there is a README file
[09:51] <ravage> read it
[09:51] <iomari891> where?
[09:51] <ravage> in /snao
[09:51] <ravage> *snap
[09:55] <iomari891> ravage: OK, I read it and the link it refers to but that doesn't alter the fact du -sh /snap is 16G
[09:56] <mwhudson> iomari891: it's all squashfs mounts though, try du -x
[09:56] <iomari891> ok. i sec   ....
[09:56] <mwhudson> (or at least, it should be!)
[09:57] <ravage> that is exactly what the readme says yes :)
[09:58] <iomari891> I C. So where is the 16g residing?
[09:58] <ravage> see above
[09:58] <ravage> already told you the directory
[10:29] <iomari891> ok, I'm leaving the /snap alone. I'll relocate the /var/folder instead. That's 29G.
[10:42] <weedmic> iomari891: if 16GB is really an issue, perhaps you need to find the real culprit.  this utility will allow you to find what is hogging your media:  netstat -a
[10:42] <weedmic> meant to type "ncdu -x -r"
[10:57] <iomari891> weedmic: thanks but /var is a better choice for me to move/link back to than /snap. Besides, it's larger so I'll free more space.
[11:02] <weedmic> should I care at all that /boot/efi is vfat?  it is on /dev/nvme0n1p1 - also, if I am using clonezilla on the entire device nvme0 is it also getting the boot sector?
[11:03] <weedmic> this is my only instance of having a device boot from nvme - so simply do notknow.
[11:04] <ravage> efi has no boot sector
[11:05] <elnegro> hi, i'm trying to have only gcc-13 suite installed in my system, so i remove all gcc-12 related packages, except cpp, because when i try that, the installer wants to remove also cpp* cpp-12* gdm3* ubuntu-desktop* ubuntu-desktop-minimal* x11-xserver-utils* xorg*, how cpp is related to the graphical environment? is it possible to get this done?
[11:11] <weedmic> by "efi has no boot secto" do you mean - this is the only way to do it?  (and therefor b/c it is correct, don't worry about it - just accept it)?
[11:12] <weedmic> elnegro: "It may be desirable to install multiple versions of the compiler on the same system. This can be done by using different prefix paths at configure time and a few symlinks. Basically, configure the two compilers with different --prefix options, then build and install each compiler.15 Jan 2023"
[11:13] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:15] <elnegro> weedmic: i don't want to install gcc from sources, just wanto to use apt packaging system, i know a can install both versions and use update alternatives, but, wanted to have no old versions lying around
[11:18] <weedmic> is it - efi that has no boot sector and one must use vfat - or is it nvme has no boot sector so one must use efi?
[11:35] <kiokoman> hi, i'm trying to configure a cluster with DRBD, corosync and pacemaker, here i need to run a nfs server. on some tutorial they tell to set the parameter -S --scope for nfsd but apparently it's not available in Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish), /etc/nfsd.conf does not mention it.
[11:35] <kiokoman> man of nfsd on debian say: NFSv4.1 and later require the server to report a "scope" which is used by the clients to detect if two connections are to the same server. By default Linux NFSD uses the host name as the scope.
[11:36] <kiokoman> It is particularly important for high-availablity configurations to ensure that all potential server nodes report the same server scope.
[11:36] <kiokoman> is it available on ubuntu with another setting maybe?
[11:58] <weedmic> foudn this - and am moving on - You can't boot from NVMe in Legacy mode, so GPT is the only way to go (because MBR isn't supported in EFI booting).
[12:52] <akik> weedmic: it's called csm in uefi lingo
[12:54] <akik> weedmic: i don't know why you couldn't install on a nvme in bios/mbr mode though
[12:57] <minnow> is there a way to get rid of cups snap? I remove it but it keeps getting auto-installed because of its connection to chromium snap
[12:57] <v9fk> remove chromium then?
[12:57] <minnow> and what is the mechanism for those auto-installs
[12:58] <minnow> v9fk: I use it
[12:59] <akik> rms: "do you control the program, or does the program control you?"
[13:00] <minnow> akik: snap controls me
[13:02] <akik> minnow: the ubuntu discourse post says though that the cups snap would only arrive in 24.10
[13:02] <ravage> minnow: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/new-interface-cups-for-all-snaps-which-print/29702
[13:03] <akik> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/cups-snap-call-for-testing/21266/59
[13:03] <ravage> it provides access to your printer. chromium prints. so it is connected to that plug
[13:03] <minnow> akik: I think it was already present in 20.04
[13:04] <akik> you can justify anything with that reasoning :)
[13:04] <ravage> i dont have to justify anything luckily. the user asked why
[13:04] <minnow> ravage: yes but this is optional unlike theming plugs
[13:05] <ravage> it is not optional in the snap definition
[13:05] <ravage> file a bug if you think it is one
[13:06] <akik> minnow: "We have decided to revert to DEB-package based printing and move the switchover out to Ubuntu 24.10."
[13:27] <tykling_> I need an IP to travel back and forth between two servers, so it is only ever active on one server at the same time. On BSD I would use carp for this, so I was considering ucarp because it is familiar. Any other suggestions? I need to be able to run a script when each server assumes the primary/secondary role (when the shared IP becomes active or inactive). Thanks!
[13:27] <tykling_> oh, this is on 22.04 by the way
[13:29] <kaleido> keepalived?
[13:30] <hwpplayer1> Is there a Russia Local Community Channel for Ubuntu ?
[13:30] <tykling_> kaleido: yes that might be an option, I see it also uses vrrp packets for it
[13:42] <Swahili> Q: I'd like to have apt-get noninteractive. Thus, I use DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive <...>, but I still get a pink panel. Not sure if I get this when upgrade but even on that I use this command I found online to mitigate this issue https://paste.sh/QCMpsPDX#pqDW7mu40Rw1S5avgKaEAuJ9
[13:42] <Swahili> What to do to have non interactive installs etc?
[15:22] <hwpplayer1> Can I see the progress of installation of a Snap package in terminal ?
[16:24] <mesa_no_exdis> hello hello. can't figure out why my comp stopped recognizing my external monitor after i installed 22.04.02. i have since upgraded to the latest release, but that didn't solve it. i tried switching from the HWE kernel to GA. no change. my graphics card is mesa intel xe graphics. help?
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> mesa_no_exdis: can you pastebin ; sudo lshw -C video , please?
[16:26] <mesa_no_exdis> *-display
[16:26] <mesa_no_exdis>        description: VGA compatible controller
[16:26] <mesa_no_exdis>        product: TigerLake-LP GT2 [Iris Xe Graphics]
[16:26] <mesa_no_exdis>        vendor: Intel Corporation
[16:26] <mesa_no_exdis>        physical id: 2
[16:26] <mesa_no_exdis>        bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
[16:27] <Eickmeyer> !paste
[16:31] <mesa_no_exdis> ah i see. working on a link
[16:33] <mesa_no_exdis> https://dpaste.com/HE5WCXUET
[16:33] <mesa_no_exdis> lotuspsychje, see above please
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> mesa_no_exdis: ok, driver seems loaded, please dpaste your full 'dmesg' so the volunteers might find something else
[16:36] <mesa_no_exdis> how do i print dmesg...?
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> mesa_no_exdis: dmesg in your terminal, or /var/log/dmesg
[16:37] <mesa_no_exdis> did it. on it
[16:38] <mesa_no_exdis> how can i see the full printout in terminal?
[16:38] <mesa_no_exdis> looks like it's only partial
[16:38] <leftyfb> mesa_no_exdis: sudo dmesg -T | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:38] <leftyfb> copy/paste the URL it gives you here
[16:41] <mesa_no_exdis> that worked. thanks. but there's a lot of private information in here, folks. any way for me to narrow down the printout to the relevant info?
[16:41] <lotuspsychje> we dont know what we are looking for yet mesa_no_exdis better to see your full dmesg
[16:41] <leftyfb> What private information do you think is it in the dmesg output?
[16:43] <mesa_no_exdis> hostname, serial numbers, the software i use
[16:57] <leftyfb> mesa_no_exdis: none of those are really considered private information. Nothing anyone here cares about anyway
[17:22] <digup> hello everybody, how can i enable multiple linux kernel on popos just like fedora?
[17:23] <ravage> !popos | digup
[17:24] <digup> sorry. but, if i get an instruction to do it on ubuntu it wouldn't be an issue because it's almost the same in popos
[17:24] <leftyfb> digup: please seek support from the PopOS project
[17:24] <digup> aight. thank you. have a nice day :)
[17:25] <coconut> digup, they are on mattermost
[17:25] <coconut> and on their site too
[17:25] <coconut> https://chat.pop-os.org/
[17:26] <digup> thank you for the link
[17:26] <coconut> yw
[18:23] <Kafetist> Yo. Anyone have Ubuntu 22? What does /etc/lsb-release say in DISTRIB_RELEASE= and DISTRIB_ID= ?
[18:25] <leftyfb> Kafetist: you know you can run Ubuntu live from a USB flash drive, as a virtual machine or even install it right within Windows right?
[18:27] <AngryTom> on Windows WSL?
[18:27] <leftyfb> WSL is what I'm referring to on Windows, yes
[18:28] <Kafetist> leftyfb: Yes, I'm well aware.
[18:32] <Kafetist> leftyfb: How would you describe the process of installing a virtual machine and ubuntu on it just to solve couple of lines there being easier than someone having said distro to look it up?
[18:34] <leftyfb> Kafetist: personally, since I'm running Ubuntu anyway, I spin up LXD containers in seconds to test things out or grab info from a particular release. But also, if I were doing some development work that required info from a linux distribution, I would 100% be running said distro in some manner.
[18:35] <hggdh> Kafetist: DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=22.04
[18:36] <Kafetist> Right. Cool. Thanks both of you.
[18:45] <Kafetist> Cool tips, looking into lxd.
[18:45] <Kafetist> And sorry for my manners, kinda preoccupied atm.
[18:56] <student> hi
[18:56] <student> tomtom
[18:57] <leftyfb> student: hello. What can we help you with?
[18:57] <Sol> @search A court of silver flames
[18:57] <student> nothing much, im just browsing
[19:25] <jhutchins> package dvd+rw-tools contains dvd+rw-mediainfo which will identify the disc (if it's DVD, won't read CDs(which might not have the info)).
[19:26] <leftyfb> !who | jhutchins
[19:35] <iffraff> Hi, I'm experiencing slightly different visual rendering in chrome on my ubuntu box then others are getting on their macs.  I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but is there any differnce between them and is there anyway to mitigate this?
[19:40] <tux> Are there any current CD-size, debian-based distributions? 64 bit preference is also accepted at 32 bit
[19:40] <tux> 648 mb<
[19:40] <tux> ubuntu debian mint
[19:45] <leftyfb> tux: there aren't any official Ubuntu releases/flavors that are 32bit, nor do any of them fit on a CD (650MB).
[19:46] <leftyfb> tux: https://linustechtips.com/topic/762282-linux-operating-systems-that-would-fit-on-a-cd-700-mb/
[19:52] <tux> I'm looking at the link. but i want update
[19:54] <ioria> tux, why don't don't you custom strip the regular iso ? with cubic e.g
[19:56] <elias_a> tux: Just being curious - what kind of a computer does not have USB but has CDROM drive :O
[19:56] <jhutchins> elias_a: Possibly very old?
[19:58] <tux> I have a 2010 computer. and there is only cd-rom drive
[19:58] <elias_a> jhutchins: Likely so. I'm just curious what CPU etc. that kind of computer to be able to run present distros.
[19:58] <leftyfb> tux: there's no USB ports?
[19:59] <elias_a> tux: Are you sure there's no USB anywhere? :O
[19:59] <ioria> you know you can boot an iso from grub, right ? tux
[19:59] <tux> i use slitaz linux live cd
[19:59] <leftyfb> if it supports 64bit, it's got USB ports
[19:59] <jhutchins> elias_a: Also fits with the 32b architecture.
[19:59] <leftyfb> tux: either way, you'll want to ask in #linux. We can only support Ubuntu here
[19:59] <tux> of course there is usb but bios update is required
[20:00] <elias_a> tux: I salute your patience!
[20:03] <joseph1> I cant stand ubuntu 22.04.3 - on a brand new m.2 - everything works right - and is lightening fast - stop it.
[20:17] <tux> do these iso's boot?
[20:17] <tux> i will try these iso
[20:18] <tux> debian-12.1.0-i386-netinst.iso
[20:18] <tux> and
[20:18] <tux> debian-edu-12.1.0-i386-netinst.iso
[20:18] <tux> https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-cd/
[20:18] <G_Money> Hello World
[21:00] <joseph1> Incredible - thanks.
[21:00] <joseph1> end.
[21:01] <coconut> tux, try and see, but ask in #debian
[21:04] <tux> I asked debian irc first. but no answer
[21:04] <tux> Isn't it debian based on ubuntu
[21:04] <tux> thx
[21:05] <coconut> ubuntu is based on debian yes
[21:06] <coconut> but recommendation is ubuntu here
[21:07] <tux> ok thanks
[21:12] <SwelteringAction> Is this where I get support?
[21:13] <v9fk> community support. yeah
[21:19] <SwelteringAction> When I wake up my computer from sleep, I get a blank screen with white text saying "debugfs: File radeon_ring_gfx' in directory '0' already present! debugfs: File radeon_ring_cp1' in directory '0' already present! debugfs: File radeon_ring_cp2' in directory '0' already present! debugfs: File 'radeon_ring_dma1' in directory '0' already present!
[21:19] <SwelteringAction> debugfs: File 'radeon_ring_dma2' in directory '0' already present! debugfs: File radeon_ring_uvd' in directory '0' already present! debugfs: File radeon_ring_vce1' in directory '0' already present! debugfs: File radeon_ring_vce2' in directory '0' already present!" Sometime it goes away sometimes it freezes. I have Ubuntu 22.04 installed.
[21:38] <joseph1> prolly a ff problem - how can i get NOT - ubuntu ff - but ff to fill the non full screen - on boot
[21:39] <joseph1> 1/4 inch from right - never fills
[21:39] <joseph1> full screen does
[21:40] <joseph1> maybe compiz ?
[21:40] <joseph1> end.
[21:45] <joseph1> Thank you for your time and efforts - Have a good day.
[21:45] <joseph1> end.
[22:15] <navotno> Hello! I'm new, I'm glad to be here)
[22:30] <joseph1> Top - notch.
[22:43] <joseph1> yes
[22:43] <leftyfb> joseph1: can we help you with something?
[22:44] <leftyfb> !support | joseph1
[22:44] <joseph1> Im ecstatic - book merk these - https://www.news4jax.com/weather/ - https://re.ssec.wisc.edu/?products=G16-ABI-FD-BAND02.100,G16-ABI-FD-BAND13.65&center=36.62792196407514,-94.74951171874999&zoom=4&width=949&height=776&timeproduct=G16-ABI-FD-BAND13&timespan=-6t&animationspeed=50&labels=lines
[22:44] <joseph1> done.
[22:44] <leftyfb> joseph1: please don't do that
[22:44] <joseph1> ok
[22:44] <joseph1> my apologies.
[22:44] <leftyfb> joseph1: please /join #ubuntu-offtopic if you'd like to just chat. This is a support channel
[22:44] <joseph1> will do.
[22:45] <joseph1> <y apologies.
[22:45] <joseph1> sorry leftyfb
[22:52] <navotno> Hello! I'm new, I'm glad to be here)
[22:53] <leftyfb> navotno: hi. What can we do for you?
[22:55] <navotno> Thank you. I don't need anything.
[23:34] <ibrahim> willy pic
[23:34] <ibrahim> hi
[23:35] <ibrahim> show me your willy pls
[23:55] <wr> what is smallest iso link to install ubuntu 23.10?
[23:55] <wr> https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mini-iso/daily-live/pending/mantic-mini-iso-amd64.iso ?
[23:55] <sarnold> it probably is the smallest, but I don't think it's self-contained
[23:56] <leftyfb> it's not, it installs everything over the internet
[23:56] <wr> sarnold, what link should i use? i wanna do a VM
[23:56] <leftyfb> wr: server or desktop?
[23:57] <wr> desktop, but i prefer some iso i can select DE
[23:57] <leftyfb> wr: what will you use it for exactly?
[23:57] <wr> leftyfb, i just wanna do VM to test distro
[23:57] <sarnold> the cloud images let you skip the whole 'installer' step, you get to a working server system pretty quick with those
[23:58] <wr> leftyfb, i think last version tried was 21
[23:58] <wr> 23.10 bit newer
[23:59] <Eickmeyer> 23.10 isn't out yet.