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fffff_alguem ai02:24
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MaxpmI'm using a 3rd-party package, https://github.com/thelounge/thelounge-deb, that depends on Node (https://github.com/nodesource/distributions). Is there a way to have its daemon automatically restart whenever apt updates Node? Does this kind of thing require modifying the .deb packages?04:48
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loswedsededwhat am I supposed to do if, when copying a 7GiB file to a ssd, the file manager simply stops transferring information? I still see the progress bar stuck at 57%07:41
loswedsededthunar with ubuntu 23.0407:41
loswedseded3 minutes so far07:42
lotuspsychj3loswedseded: check the recent thunar bugs here plz; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bugs?orderby=importance&start=007:43
lotuspsychj3loswedseded: might be handy to launch thunar from terminal, maybe to catch errors and share them here with volunteers07:43
Uthmanthat ssd has fat32 partition?07:44
Uthmancan you use cp from terminal?07:45
loswedsededcp command transfers at 1MiB per second07:52
lotuspsychj3smells like a thunar bug to me loswedseded07:52
Uthmanis this ssd device external?07:53
Uthmando you have a spare data cable?07:54
loswedsededyesterday it transfered at 800 MiB per second07:54
loswedsededhardware issue... really?07:54
loswedsededill seek07:54
Uthmanclean the plug07:54
HumanLoveits such a waste of time to install and confugre archlinux, wezterm alalcritty hyprland issues08:06
HumanLoveeven browser getting laggy08:06
HumanLovewith 16ig of ram 4G gpu08:06
lotuspsychj3this is the ubuntu support channel here HumanLove08:07
loswedsededI just executed sudo apt update and it runs extremely slow. Could it be related?08:07
YoGauMhello everyone08:07
HumanLovewhat you mean loswedseded08:07
HumanLoveloswedseded: you dont know08:08
HumanLovewhy would i help go on head up straight08:09
HumanLovecomon kick me fu08:09
HumanLovefuck off08:10
Uthmanyour disk could be busy. try rebooting to fix things the windows way08:12
myappiehi! im an architect working on a proposal for a future ubuntu headquarters08:20
myappieany suggestions to what the design concept should be?08:20
lotuspsychj3!contribute | myappie start here :p08:22
ubottumyappie start here :p: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see https://ubuntu.com/community/contribute and https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/3774608:22
myappiecool thanks08:22
myappieany suggestios though?08:24
myappiei guess it could remind of the ubuntu logo08:24
v9fkmake it big08:24
myappieits size should be calculated based on its relevance and the impact it's had08:25
lotuspsychj3myappie: this is the ubuntu support channel, we only take issues around ubuntu08:25
lotuspsychj3!chat | myappie08:26
ubottumyappie: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!08:26
myappiewell, this is on topic and it's just a simple question. i work with one of the world's best architecture/design agencies and i'm doing all this for free.08:27
loswedsededis it normal that an ubuntu system slows down noticeably after transferring 600 GiB of data?08:28
lotuspsychj3myappie: its not on topic, leave the room free for technical issues please08:28
loswedsedednormal mid range notebook08:28
loswedsededand external ssd ext4 usb 3 connection08:29
loswedsededso, about these really slow transfer sppeds from ext 4 internal to ext4 external with ubuntu 23.04: I chose another ssd, same cable, it transferred the file in under 40 seconds. However, initial transfer speed: 600 MiB per second. Final transfer speed: 30 MiB per second. Does this imply faulty hardware with this ssd? and if the transfer process failed with the first ssd (it stopped dead upon reaching 55%), does this mean a08:34
loswedsededfaulty first ssd?08:34
scottpedialoswedseded: i think you can try cleaning the system cache08:35
scottpediathat is perhaps why the system is getting slower08:35
loswedsededscottpedia, any command youd recommend? noob here08:36
lotuspsychj3loswedseded: try to catch errors under your system hood, in your logs like i adviced08:36
loswedsededI started thunar from the cli but no output was printed lotuspsychj308:36
lotuspsychj3loswedseded: also keep a journalctl -f open while you play08:37
lotuspsychj3loswedseded: and investigate or share your full 'dmesg' to the volunteers for a deeper look08:37
loswedsededlotuspsychj3, you mean: execute 'journalctl -f' before I play a movie, correct?08:37
lotuspsychj3loswedseded: execute it before investigating anything yeah, journal logs about everything your system does08:38
myappiewhy is it called apt-get? ie. apt-get install, two words of almost the same meaning08:40
scottpediamyappie: apt-get is the programmatic alternative of apt08:41
myappiewhat if instead copying the way openbsd does it? pkg_add <package>, pkg_delete <package>?08:41
scottpediaas a human user I usually use apt in command line08:42
scottpediaapt-get is more ideally embedded in scripts08:42
loswedsedednice commands, those 2...08:42
myappiewith aliases (openbsd should have that too), ie. pkg_install, pkg_remove08:42
scottpedialoswedseded: did you find what's wrong?08:42
loswedsededno, but it might be broken sectors in a ssd, ill have to plug the unit again I guess08:44
myappieloswedseded: i could submit a PR that makes them the new default in ubuntu? old commands still supported ofcourse08:44
loswedsededI know nothing about packages myappie08:44
scottpediamyappie: you want to change the way ubuntu deals with packages by default?08:45
myappiei could? then i'd have to do it to debian too. i'd be honored to, because i've never liked the name.08:47
myappieand saying i've made changes to the ubuntu operating system sounds like a nice pickup line.08:47
scottpediaokay I think you can customize your own OS08:48
scottpediabut I think it's difficult to change the entire code base of an OS08:48
scottpediajust to your liking08:48
scottpediayou have to talk to the developers in charge of this08:49
myappieyep i definitely will08:53
YoGauMjust won roulette08:58
YoGauMgoing to buy some ebooks08:58
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myappieubuntu/debian are still the #1 linux distro right?09:17
lotuspsychj3!discuss | myappie09:17
ubottumyappie: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!09:17
myappiewould you be willing to switch out systemd if a simpler solution was presented?09:19
myappiethats the 2nd PR i have planned for ubuntu: In an unprecedented move, the latest version of Ubuntu has traded its traditional `systemd` init system for OpenBSD's `rc`. This revolutionary Ubuntu-OpenRC blend offers users a lighter, more transparent, and incredibly efficient approach to system initialization and service management. The switch has been hailed as a game-changer, simplifying system09:25
myappieconfigurations and significantly reducing boot times, all while enhancing stability and performance.09:25
lotuspsychj3please stop that myappie i already told you discussions and wishlists like that dont fit here in this support channel09:26
myappieapologies loswedseded09:31
myappieapologies lotuspsychj309:31
loswedsededis there any way to find in what year a hdd / ssd was made?09:31
loswedsededI found a serial number with dmesg, but no way to know if 2017 is the year (first 4 digits of the serial number)09:32
lotuspsychj3loswedseded: there's a command to lookup your ssd's TBW (data used)09:33
YoGauMSomeone of you do gambling ?09:34
lotuspsychj3not here please YoGauM09:35
nikolamhow to generally avoid system locking up when Firefox eats all the RAM?09:47
ravageadd more ram09:54
tomreynMaxpm: yes, that would require modifying the .deb10:08
Terminal-VHi everyone. OpenVPN's documentation is telling me to set the user to 'nobody' and the group to 'nobody'. Ubuntu 20.04 LTS has the user 'nobody' but it doesn't have the group 'nobody'; it does have the group 'nogroup'. Is the group 'nogroup' equivalent to the group 'nobody'?11:28
Terminal-Vravage thanks, bye.11:29
BluesKajHi all11:33
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bolovanoshithere, I have a problem with my ufw complaining about multicast on my bridge https://paste.debian.net/hidden/912b7861/. Where should I go with ufw related problems?13:38
bolovanosthis is stat for records in dmesg :  cat /tmp/dmesg-20230902 | cut -d " " -f 8,9,10 | sort | uniq -c | sort -grb -> https://paste.debian.net/hidden/29dbdb3c/13:41
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webchat13Good morning!  I was hoping someone could help me with my Ubuntu installation on WLS?13:58
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leftyfb!wsl | webchat1314:00
webchat13I keep getting this message when trying to install pretty much anything:14:00
ubottuwebchat13: Windows 10 and newer have a feature called "Windows Subsystem for Linux", which allows it to run Ubuntu (and other Linux distro) userspace programs without porting/recompliation. For installation instructions, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide14:00
webchat13Setting up update-notifier-common ( ...14:00
webchat13Traceback (most recent call last):14:00
webchat13  File "/usr/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloader", line 29, in <module>14:00
webchat13    import apt_pkg14:00
webchat13ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'apt_pkg'14:00
webchat13dpkg: error processing package update-notifier-common (--configure):14:00
webchat13 installed update-notifier-common package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 114:00
webchat13Errors were encountered while processing:14:00
webchat13 update-notifier-common14:00
leftyfb!paste | webchat1314:00
ubottuwebchat13: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://dpaste.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.14:00
webchat13Setting up update-notifier-common ( ...14:00
webchat13Traceback (most recent call last):14:00
webchat13  File "/usr/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloader", line 29, in <module>14:00
webchat13    import apt_pkg14:00
webchat13ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'apt_pkg'14:00
webchat13dpkg: error processing package update-notifier-common (--configure):14:00
webchat13 installed update-notifier-common package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 114:00
webchat13Errors were encountered while processing:14:00
leftyfbwebchat13: stop pasting here14:01
ravagethat WSL setup is borked. delete and reinstall.14:01
webchat13ravage hmm.. ok.  I was hoping that wouldn't be the case but it seems like the easiest solution perhaps14:03
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loswedsededis this the right channel to ask how to execute https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater from a cli in 23.04?14:39
jhutchinsloswedseded: We probably can't support a third party project like that, best to ask the developers.14:43
oerheks"Packages are as well documented as possible"14:47
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tester1How are you today?15:31
tomreyntester1: your test succeesed, but this channel is only for ubuntu support.15:32
tester1Linux then?15:32
tomreyna specific ubuntu distribution.15:32
tomreynthere are other channels on this irc network15:33
ubottuAlis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see «/msg Alis help list» or ask in #libera - Example usage: «/msg Alis list http»15:33
tester1no offense I hope in joining15:33
tester1still learning irc15:33
tester1Where is the single, best, channel - to learn about linux15:34
tomreyntype this on a blank line:   /join #linux15:34
leftyfbtester1: IRC is not the best place to learn linux15:34
tester1Help me to unerstand, sincerelyu15:35
cbreakthis is the best place for flamewars15:35
tester1understand, sincerely*15:35
leftyfbtester1: install it and mess around. Break it a bunch of times and reinstall. Come up with things you want to do and look up how to do them15:35
cbreakif you're looking for opinions, you'll find many here :)15:35
tester1I think IRC is largely toxic community, ya?15:35
leftyfbcbreak: lets not15:35
cbreaknot toxic in general, no15:36
tester1I have found that many IRC chatrooms are15:36
tester1toxic AF15:36
tomreyntester1: please stay on topic here, though, which is exclusively ubuntu support.15:36
tomreynwe do car about this15:36
tester1I think IRC needs help.15:36
leftyfbtester1: /join #linux for help with linux. /join #libera for help with IRC. Use the Alis service to find general chat rooms. Good luck15:37
tester1leftyfb: thanks for your help navigating IRC15:38
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peter__Moin in die Runde.16:13
derstromI'm running Ubuntu Server 20.04 LTS and logging into the server via SSH displays messages about security updates available via ESM. Isn't this version of Ubuntu still supposed to be receiving security updates until 2025? (Context: I did upgrade from 18.04 LTS. Is it because I have packages installed that are no longer available in the 20.04 repos?)16:52
cbreakderstrom: I think those are unconditional advertisements16:53
cbreakI think they're generated by one of the scripts in /etc/update-motd.d/16:53
derstromcbreak I see, but it does mention that 22 "additional security updates" are available. Running apt-get upgrade yields no results (fully up to date).16:53
derstromVery strange.16:54
toddc!pro | derstrom16:54
ubottuderstrom: Ubuntu Pro is a service offered by Canonical for expanded CVE patching, ten-years security maintenance and optional support. Anyone can use Ubuntu Pro for free for personal use on up to 5 machines. For details please see https://ubuntu.com/pro and https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-pro-faq16:54
derstromtoddc It shouldn't be necessary, for the reasons I've explained.16:55
toddcit is not necessary16:55
derstromcbreak The only plausible explanation I've got is that perhaps the server has packages installed which are no longer available in the main repos. For example, it mentioned that security updates for python2.7-dev are available via ESM, but that package is available even in 22.04.16:56
derstromMakes no sense.16:56
jhutchinsderstrom: Perhaps you do not have all of the repos enabled?  Would you care to pastebin your sources*? (Include the ones from sources.d.)16:56
ravage!pro | derstrom16:56
ubottuderstrom: Ubuntu Pro is a service offered by Canonical for expanded CVE patching, ten-years security maintenance and optional support. Anyone can use Ubuntu Pro for free for personal use on up to 5 machines. For details please see https://ubuntu.com/pro and https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-pro-faq16:56
toddcyou just get access to canonical created patches that not not yet been done by package maintainers dowmstream   yes maintainers have use them16:57
toddcas i understand it16:59
derstromtoddc Plausible, actually. I'm using DigitalOcean's mirrors.17:00
omeryucehi, i downloaded the ova file for ubuntu 22 and ran it. but I can't find the password. Could you help?17:01
oerheksname ubuntu password empty?17:02
oerheksor the other way around17:03
oerhekswhat does the ova docs say?17:03
omeryuceI tried that way but it didn't work.17:03
derstromtoddc cbreak jhutchins I'll assume all is good for now. Thanks for your help.17:03
oerheksThe account should be ubuntu. There is either no password, or it is displayed on the console when booting (or booting for the first time). You can use cloud-init to add user accounts and set passwords. –17:05
omeryuceI will try again. Thanks.17:06
omeryuceI reinstalled and it doesn't say on the start screen either.17:19
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dusta program which is installed as snap can not be started from shell as it is possible with a apt installed package20:56
rboxis that a question?20:57
cbreakit's an incorrect statement20:59
matsamanyeah that's true, but, mmm, oof, I don't know22:00
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tcurdt-I am trying ping6 from a ubuntu box but no packets are being transmitted (ipv4 works) ... now this sounds more like networking/ipv6 issue than a ubuntu one ... any suggestion where else to ask?22:46
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cbreaktcurdt-: ask 'ip a' whether you have ipv6 addresses at all23:41
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