[02:09] <fffff> oi
[02:09] <fffff> hi
[02:24] <fffff_> ola
[02:24] <fffff_> alguem ai
[02:24] <fffff_> ?
[04:48] <Maxpm> I'm using a 3rd-party package, https://github.com/thelounge/thelounge-deb, that depends on Node (https://github.com/nodesource/distributions). Is there a way to have its daemon automatically restart whenever apt updates Node? Does this kind of thing require modifying the .deb packages?
[07:41] <loswedseded> what am I supposed to do if, when copying a 7GiB file to a ssd, the file manager simply stops transferring information? I still see the progress bar stuck at 57%
[07:41] <loswedseded> thunar with ubuntu 23.04
[07:42] <loswedseded> 3 minutes so far
[07:43] <lotuspsychj3> loswedseded: check the recent thunar bugs here plz; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bugs?orderby=importance&start=0
[07:43] <lotuspsychj3> loswedseded: might be handy to launch thunar from terminal, maybe to catch errors and share them here with volunteers
[07:44] <Uthman> that ssd has fat32 partition?
[07:45] <loswedseded> ext4
[07:45] <Uthman> can you use cp from terminal?
[07:52] <loswedseded> cp command transfers at 1MiB per second
[07:52] <lotuspsychj3> smells like a thunar bug to me loswedseded
[07:53] <Uthman> is this ssd device external?
[07:53] <loswedseded> dammit
[07:53] <loswedseded> yes
[07:53] <loswedseded> usb3
[07:54] <Uthman> do you have a spare data cable?
[07:54] <loswedseded> yesterday it transfered at 800 MiB per second
[07:54] <loswedseded> hardware issue... really?
[07:54] <loswedseded> ill seek
[07:54] <Uthman> clean the plug
[08:06] <HumanLove> its such a waste of time to install and confugre archlinux, wezterm alalcritty hyprland issues
[08:06] <HumanLove> even browser getting laggy
[08:06] <HumanLove> with 16ig of ram 4G gpu
[08:07] <lotuspsychj3> this is the ubuntu support channel here HumanLove
[08:07] <loswedseded> I just executed sudo apt update and it runs extremely slow. Could it be related?
[08:07] <YoGauM> hello everyone
[08:07] <HumanLove> what you mean loswedseded
[08:08] <HumanLove> loswedseded: you dont know
[08:09] <HumanLove> ?
[08:09] <HumanLove> why would i help go on head up straight
[08:09] <HumanLove> comon kick me fu
[08:10] <HumanLove> FS
[08:10] <HumanLove> fuck off
[08:10] <Uthman> helloo
[08:12] <Uthman> your disk could be busy. try rebooting to fix things the windows way
[08:20] <myappie> hi! im an architect working on a proposal for a future ubuntu headquarters
[08:20] <myappie> any suggestions to what the design concept should be?
[08:21] <lotuspsychj3> lol
[08:22] <lotuspsychj3> !contribute | myappie start here :p
[08:22] <myappie> cool thanks
[08:24] <myappie> any suggestios though?
[08:24] <myappie> i guess it could remind of the ubuntu logo
[08:24] <v9fk> make it big
[08:25] <myappie> its size should be calculated based on its relevance and the impact it's had
[08:25] <lotuspsychj3> myappie: this is the ubuntu support channel, we only take issues around ubuntu
[08:26] <lotuspsychj3> !chat | myappie
[08:27] <myappie> well, this is on topic and it's just a simple question. i work with one of the world's best architecture/design agencies and i'm doing all this for free.
[08:28] <loswedseded> is it normal that an ubuntu system slows down noticeably after transferring 600 GiB of data?
[08:28] <lotuspsychj3> myappie: its not on topic, leave the room free for technical issues please
[08:28] <loswedseded> normal mid range notebook
[08:29] <loswedseded> and external ssd ext4 usb 3 connection
[08:34] <loswedseded> so, about these really slow transfer sppeds from ext 4 internal to ext4 external with ubuntu 23.04: I chose another ssd, same cable, it transferred the file in under 40 seconds. However, initial transfer speed: 600 MiB per second. Final transfer speed: 30 MiB per second. Does this imply faulty hardware with this ssd? and if the transfer process failed with the first ssd (it stopped dead upon reaching 55%), does this mean a
[08:34] <loswedseded> faulty first ssd?
[08:35] <scottpedia> loswedseded: i think you can try cleaning the system cache
[08:35] <scottpedia> that is perhaps why the system is getting slower
[08:36] <loswedseded> scottpedia, any command youd recommend? noob here
[08:36] <lotuspsychj3> loswedseded: try to catch errors under your system hood, in your logs like i adviced
[08:36] <loswedseded> I started thunar from the cli but no output was printed lotuspsychj3
[08:37] <lotuspsychj3> loswedseded: also keep a journalctl -f open while you play
[08:37] <lotuspsychj3> loswedseded: and investigate or share your full 'dmesg' to the volunteers for a deeper look
[08:37] <loswedseded> lotuspsychj3, you mean: execute 'journalctl -f' before I play a movie, correct?
[08:38] <lotuspsychj3> loswedseded: execute it before investigating anything yeah, journal logs about everything your system does
[08:40] <myappie> why is it called apt-get? ie. apt-get install, two words of almost the same meaning
[08:41] <scottpedia> myappie: apt-get is the programmatic alternative of apt
[08:41] <myappie> what if instead copying the way openbsd does it? pkg_add <package>, pkg_delete <package>?
[08:42] <scottpedia> as a human user I usually use apt in command line
[08:42] <scottpedia> apt-get is more ideally embedded in scripts
[08:42] <loswedseded> nice commands, those 2...
[08:42] <myappie> with aliases (openbsd should have that too), ie. pkg_install, pkg_remove
[08:42] <scottpedia> loswedseded: did you find what's wrong?
[08:44] <loswedseded> no, but it might be broken sectors in a ssd, ill have to plug the unit again I guess
[08:44] <myappie> loswedseded: i could submit a PR that makes them the new default in ubuntu? old commands still supported ofcourse
[08:44] <loswedseded> I know nothing about packages myappie
[08:45] <scottpedia> myappie: you want to change the way ubuntu deals with packages by default?
[08:47] <myappie> i could? then i'd have to do it to debian too. i'd be honored to, because i've never liked the name.
[08:47] <myappie> and saying i've made changes to the ubuntu operating system sounds like a nice pickup line.
[08:48] <scottpedia> okay I think you can customize your own OS
[08:48] <scottpedia> but I think it's difficult to change the entire code base of an OS
[08:48] <scottpedia> just to your liking
[08:49] <scottpedia> you have to talk to the developers in charge of this
[08:53] <myappie> yep i definitely will
[08:58] <YoGauM> just won roulette
[08:58] <YoGauM> going to buy some ebooks
[09:17] <myappie> ubuntu/debian are still the #1 linux distro right?
[09:17] <lotuspsychj3> !discuss | myappie
[09:19] <myappie> would you be willing to switch out systemd if a simpler solution was presented?
[09:25] <myappie> thats the 2nd PR i have planned for ubuntu: In an unprecedented move, the latest version of Ubuntu has traded its traditional `systemd` init system for OpenBSD's `rc`. This revolutionary Ubuntu-OpenRC blend offers users a lighter, more transparent, and incredibly efficient approach to system initialization and service management. The switch has been hailed as a game-changer, simplifying system
[09:25] <myappie> configurations and significantly reducing boot times, all while enhancing stability and performance.
[09:26] <lotuspsychj3> please stop that myappie i already told you discussions and wishlists like that dont fit here in this support channel
[09:31] <myappie> apologies loswedseded
[09:31] <myappie> err
[09:31] <myappie> apologies lotuspsychj3
[09:31] <loswedseded> is there any way to find in what year a hdd / ssd was made?
[09:32] <loswedseded> I found a serial number with dmesg, but no way to know if 2017 is the year (first 4 digits of the serial number)
[09:33] <lotuspsychj3> loswedseded: there's a command to lookup your ssd's TBW (data used)
[09:34] <YoGauM> Someone of you do gambling ?
[09:35] <lotuspsychj3> not here please YoGauM
[09:47] <nikolam> how to generally avoid system locking up when Firefox eats all the RAM?
[09:54] <ravage> add more ram
[10:08] <tomreyn> Maxpm: yes, that would require modifying the .deb
[11:28] <Terminal-V> Hi everyone. OpenVPN's documentation is telling me to set the user to 'nobody' and the group to 'nobody'. Ubuntu 20.04 LTS has the user 'nobody' but it doesn't have the group 'nobody'; it does have the group 'nogroup'. Is the group 'nogroup' equivalent to the group 'nobody'?
[11:29] <ravage> yes
[11:29] <Terminal-V> ravage thanks, bye.
[11:33] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:38] <bolovanos> hithere, I have a problem with my ufw complaining about multicast on my bridge https://paste.debian.net/hidden/912b7861/. Where should I go with ufw related problems?
[13:41] <bolovanos> this is stat for records in dmesg :  cat /tmp/dmesg-20230902 | cut -d " " -f 8,9,10 | sort | uniq -c | sort -grb -> https://paste.debian.net/hidden/29dbdb3c/
[13:58] <webchat13> Good morning!  I was hoping someone could help me with my Ubuntu installation on WLS?
[14:00] <leftyfb> !wsl | webchat13
[14:00] <webchat13> I keep getting this message when trying to install pretty much anything:
[14:00] <webchat13> Setting up update-notifier-common (3.192.30.17) ...
[14:00] <webchat13> Traceback (most recent call last):
[14:00] <webchat13>   File "/usr/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloader", line 29, in <module>
[14:00] <webchat13>     import apt_pkg
[14:00] <webchat13> ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'apt_pkg'
[14:00] <webchat13> dpkg: error processing package update-notifier-common (--configure):
[14:00] <webchat13>  installed update-notifier-common package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1
[14:00] <webchat13> Errors were encountered while processing:
[14:00] <webchat13>  update-notifier-common
[14:00] <leftyfb> !paste | webchat13
[14:00] <webchat13> Setting up update-notifier-common (3.192.30.17) ...
[14:00] <webchat13> Traceback (most recent call last):
[14:00] <webchat13>   File "/usr/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloader", line 29, in <module>
[14:00] <webchat13>     import apt_pkg
[14:00] <webchat13> ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'apt_pkg'
[14:00] <webchat13> dpkg: error processing package update-notifier-common (--configure):
[14:00] <webchat13>  installed update-notifier-common package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1
[14:00] <webchat13> Errors were encountered while processing:
[14:01] <leftyfb> webchat13: stop pasting here
[14:01] <ravage> that WSL setup is borked. delete and reinstall.
[14:03] <webchat13> ravage hmm.. ok.  I was hoping that wouldn't be the case but it seems like the easiest solution perhaps
[14:39] <loswedseded> is this the right channel to ask how to execute https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater from a cli in 23.04?
[14:43] <jhutchins> loswedseded: We probably can't support a third party project like that, best to ask the developers.
[14:47] <oerheks> "Packages are as well documented as possible"
[15:31] <tester1> hi
[15:31] <tester1> How are you today?
[15:32] <tomreyn> tester1: your test succeesed, but this channel is only for ubuntu support.
[15:32] <tester1> Linux then?
[15:32] <tomreyn> a specific ubuntu distribution.
[15:33] <tomreyn> there are other channels on this irc network
[15:33] <tomreyn> !alis
[15:33] <tester1> ok
[15:33] <tester1> no offense I hope in joining
[15:33] <tester1> still learning irc
[15:33] <oerheks> :-)
[15:34] <tester1> Where is the single, best, channel - to learn about linux
[15:34] <tomreyn> type this on a blank line:   /join #linux
[15:34] <tester1> Thanks
[15:34] <leftyfb> tester1: IRC is not the best place to learn linux
[15:34] <tester1> why?
[15:35] <tester1> Help me to unerstand, sincerelyu
[15:35] <cbreak> this is the best place for flamewars
[15:35] <tester1> understand, sincerely*
[15:35] <tester1> ok
[15:35] <leftyfb> tester1: install it and mess around. Break it a bunch of times and reinstall. Come up with things you want to do and look up how to do them
[15:35] <cbreak> if you're looking for opinions, you'll find many here :)
[15:35] <tester1> I think IRC is largely toxic community, ya?
[15:35] <leftyfb> cbreak: lets not
[15:36] <cbreak> not toxic in general, no
[15:36] <tester1> I have found that many IRC chatrooms are
[15:36] <tester1> toxic AF
[15:36] <tomreyn> tester1: please stay on topic here, though, which is exclusively ubuntu support.
[15:36] <tomreyn> we do car about this
[15:36] <tester1> sorry
[15:36] <tester1> I think IRC needs help.
[15:36] <tester1> :)
[15:37] <leftyfb> tester1: /join #linux for help with linux. /join #libera for help with IRC. Use the Alis service to find general chat rooms. Good luck
[15:38] <tester1> leftyfb: thanks for your help navigating IRC
[16:12] <peter__> ?
[16:13] <oerheks> :-)
[16:13] <peter__> Moin in die Runde.
[16:52] <derstrom> I'm running Ubuntu Server 20.04 LTS and logging into the server via SSH displays messages about security updates available via ESM. Isn't this version of Ubuntu still supposed to be receiving security updates until 2025? (Context: I did upgrade from 18.04 LTS. Is it because I have packages installed that are no longer available in the 20.04 repos?)
[16:53] <cbreak> derstrom: I think those are unconditional advertisements
[16:53] <cbreak> I think they're generated by one of the scripts in /etc/update-motd.d/
[16:53] <derstrom> cbreak I see, but it does mention that 22 "additional security updates" are available. Running apt-get upgrade yields no results (fully up to date).
[16:54] <cbreak> hmm...
[16:54] <derstrom> Very strange.
[16:54] <toddc> !pro | derstrom
[16:55] <derstrom> toddc It shouldn't be necessary, for the reasons I've explained.
[16:55] <toddc> it is not necessary
[16:56] <derstrom> cbreak The only plausible explanation I've got is that perhaps the server has packages installed which are no longer available in the main repos. For example, it mentioned that security updates for python2.7-dev are available via ESM, but that package is available even in 22.04.
[16:56] <derstrom> Makes no sense.
[16:56] <jhutchins> derstrom: Perhaps you do not have all of the repos enabled?  Would you care to pastebin your sources*? (Include the ones from sources.d.)
[16:56] <ravage> !pro | derstrom
[16:57] <toddc> you just get access to canonical created patches that not not yet been done by package maintainers dowmstream   yes maintainers have use them
[16:59] <toddc> as i understand it
[17:00] <derstrom> toddc Plausible, actually. I'm using DigitalOcean's mirrors.
[17:01] <omeryuce> hi, i downloaded the ova file for ubuntu 22 and ran it. but I can't find the password. Could you help?
[17:02] <oerheks> name ubuntu password empty?
[17:03] <oerheks> or the other way around
[17:03] <oerheks> what does the ova docs say?
[17:03] <omeryuce> I tried that way but it didn't work.
[17:03] <derstrom> toddc cbreak jhutchins I'll assume all is good for now. Thanks for your help.
[17:05] <oerheks> The account should be ubuntu. There is either no password, or it is displayed on the console when booting (or booting for the first time). You can use cloud-init to add user accounts and set passwords. –
[17:06] <omeryuce> I will try again. Thanks.
[17:19] <omeryuce> I reinstalled and it doesn't say on the start screen either.
[17:20] <blackmask> hello
[17:20] <blackmask> >;)
[20:56] <dust> a program which is installed as snap can not be started from shell as it is possible with a apt installed package
[20:56] <rbox> what?
[20:57] <rbox> is that a question?
[20:59] <cbreak> it's an incorrect statement
[22:00] <matsaman> yeah that's true, but, mmm, oof, I don't know
[22:46] <tcurdt-> I am trying ping6 from a ubuntu box but no packets are being transmitted (ipv4 works) ... now this sounds more like networking/ipv6 issue than a ubuntu one ... any suggestion where else to ask?
[23:41] <cbreak> tcurdt-: ask 'ip a' whether you have ipv6 addresses at all