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salapingreetings! On my computer I have two accounts, mine, which has administrator permissions, and my brother's, which is a standard account (without administrator permissions). The problem is when I connect a pendrive while in my brother's account, it always shows me errors because To the permissions, how could I solve this?04:37
rboxshoes you "errors"?04:40
salapinrbox, It usually tells me that I don't have access to the drive.04:41
rboxyou can manually mount it04:42
rboxis it ext4 or some kind of fat filesystem?04:42
salapinrbox,04:45
salapinFor example, the one I have now is in the ntfs file system, I have formatted it from my session with gnome-disk-utility and I have created the partition, I have copied a directory with two files, I go to my brother's session and it does not allows access to the disk, gives me permissions error04:45
rboxntfs doesnt have permissions04:45
rboxso by deafult it just sets everyihtng to the user that mounts it04:45
apocalyptechHello all!  Rather a left-field question here, but: I'm attempting to debug some font rendering issues on an app, and it turns out that the issue only shows up when running in certain WMs/DEs.  I'm trying to pinpoint exactly what's causing the behavior to be different04:46
apocalyptechWMs/DEs which *don't* exhibit the bad font formatting: gnome, enlightenment, kde plasma, mate, xfce404:46
apocalyptechWMs/DEs which *do* exhibit the bad font formatting: afterstep, awesome, fluxbox, i3, icewm, jwm, openbox, windowmaker04:46
apocalyptechAny idea what the ones that work might have in common?04:46
apocalyptechI've tried comparing `strace` output when the thing runs in one versus the other, but I didn't see anything particularly useful (though it could be that I missed something, of course)04:47
apocalyptechBut clearly the DEs in that first list are doing *something* to how fonts are given out to apps which the others aren't; basically just hoping to figure out what that is, so I can then get the app itself fixed up (or at least figure out a workaround)04:48
matsamanapocalyptech: sounds like the DEs that exhibit the problem are not DEs =P04:49
matsamanwhat's the problem anyway?04:50
apocalyptechhttps://github.com/bell-sw/Liberica/issues/140 <- that, specifically - lack of antialiasing, I suppose04:50
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 140 in bell-sw/Liberica "Ugly/Pixellated text on NIK-compiled AWT/Swing app, on Linux, in *some* WMs/DEs" [Open]04:50
matsamanapocalyptech: so for a java app?04:51
apocalyptechWell, not exactly04:51
apocalyptechThere's a million layers at play here04:51
matsamannah04:52
apocalyptechWhen run as Java everything's fine04:52
apocalyptechThe thing that's having problems is a pure-native compiled version of the Java app (so, like, no actual system JVM required to run it)04:52
matsamanthat's a pretty common issue with java apps, IIRC04:52
apocalyptech(Liberica NIK is a fork of Oracle's GraalVM Native Image, which among other things provides that "native" compilation of various languages)04:53
matsamanI remember some JetBrains apps having it manifest04:53
matsamananyway, the DEs have a lot more provisioned than just window managers04:53
matsamana lot more04:53
apocalyptechYeah, I've seen stuff like that in the past too w/ java; often setting an env var along the lines of `FREETYPE_PROPERTIES="truetype:interpreter-version=35"` tends to do the trick in those cases04:53
apocalyptechBut as I say, running it via Java in all cases works fine; it's only when it gets native-compiled that it starts manifesting04:54
apocalyptechYeah, for sure04:54
apocalyptechI'm just trying to figure out *what* component that those heavier environments are providing which is making stuff nicer04:55
apocalyptechLike those other DEs wouldn't be providing their own `libfreetype.so` or something, I wouldn't think...04:57
matsamanmaybe diff 'env' output, for a start04:57
apocalyptechAh, yeah, suppose that would've been an obvious place to start04:58
apocalyptechMm, nothing especially interesting there, though, alas.05:02
apocalyptechAha, well, actually did manage to narrow it down to something which, on the Gnome side at least, is set up via gsd-xsettings05:17
apocalyptechOkay, and rather smoking-gunningly, one of the xsettings provided by that is `Xft/Antialias 1`.  If I set up a simple xsettingsd in, for instance, icewm (taking the various Xft/* entries provided by xdg-xsettings), fonts for this app start looking good05:25
apocalyptechAwesome05:25
apocalyptechAnyway, thanks for helpin' out.  :)05:25
Terminal-VHello everyone. OpenVPN is listening in on port 1194, but it reports incoming connections on port 2210. Does anyone know what's going on with that?05:47
Terminal-VI am using Ubuntu 20.04 LTS BTW.05:48
Terminal-VThis is the log I get: https://i.ibb.co/k6zMSzv/Untitled.png05:50
Terminal-VI have the firewall turn on and port 2210 inbound isn't allowed, so I don't understand what is happening here.05:51
Terminal-VPort 1194 is allowed, the port OpenVPN's is using to listen on.05:52
Terminal-VCool06:08
Terminal-VI'm using Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. OpenVPN is listens on port 1194, but it reports incoming connections on port 2210. Does anyone know what's going on with that? https://i.ibb.co/k6zMSzv/Untitled.png06:47
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gordonjcpokay this is a bit off-the-wall and maybe not Ubuntu-specific08:49
weedmic?08:50
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gordonjcpyou know what I'd like, is a thing where I can stick a bunch of images in a directory and "flip" through them as desktop backgrounds, maybe with the mouse scrollwheel and a modifier key08:50
gordonjcpand just throwing it out there, have any of you heard of something that'll do something like that?08:50
pagioshi all08:50
pagioswhat do yuo think of POPOS08:50
gordonjcpuse case is, I've got a bunch of stuff like watch duty calendars, aides memoires, and so on, which I need to refer to for work, and it's annoying opening up Files and clicking through to the thing I want08:51
gordonjcpit'd be awesome to just kind of rolodex through them on the desktop08:51
weedmicThey took that out - supposed to be some type of security issue.  However, you can still install xflame and the support package around it.  then setup what you like.  but I no longer remember how.  I kept getting a line in the middle I could nto fix and moved on...08:53
gordonjcpxflame?08:53
gordonjcpI thought that just drew flames on the desktop08:54
weedmicit is a screensaver that runs on something I forgot the name of - one of the options is a directory of pics to show a few secs at a time (or xflame)08:55
gordonjcpah okay08:56
gordonjcpyeah that could be a place to start I guess08:56
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Lion-OI am planning to buy HP ProBook 450 G9 i5. it comes with freeDos. How can I make sure I will be able to install ubuntu on it and with no compatibility issues?10:20
lotuspsychje!hardware | Lion-O start here10:23
ubottuLion-O start here: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection10:23
lotuspsychjeLion-O: just make sure its no chromebook HP10:23
Lion-Olotuspsychje, its not chromebook10:25
Lion-OAre chromebook known as problematic with ubuntu?10:25
lotuspsychjeLion-O: chromebooks are different to install ubuntu on, needs alternate ways with crouton10:25
ravagedepends on the model. on older chromebooks i managed to install coreboot and do a regular installation10:27
lotuspsychjeinteresting ravage10:27
ravageLion-O: the hardware looks "compatible". sometimes wifi can be a problem and you need to find a driver for that. the rest looks fine10:28
Lion-OThere are usb wifi adapter dongles I assume that can solve that.10:30
ravagebut AX211 seems to be supported on kernel 5.15. so i guess it will work fine on 6.210:30
ravageHP says "Intel® Wi-Fi 6E AX211 (2x2) "10:30
ravageintel graphics can sometimes be glitchy too. heard about some bugs with "Iris" cards.10:31
ravagebut not sure if that will affect you10:31
Lion-OI don't see any issues on wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection lotuspsychje gave me for this HP model10:32
lotuspsychjeAX can have some bugs on newer kernels too10:33
Lion-OAX is that new?10:34
Lion-OThe IEEE 802.11ax standard was finalised on September 1, 2020 when Draft 8 received 95% approval in the sponsor ballot and received final approval from the IEEE ...10:34
Lion-OUbuntu 20.04 LTS 64 Bit: Standard images of Ubuntu may not work well, or at all10:38
weedmicLion-O: order the laptop with linux pre-installed10:44
Lion-Oweedmic, it means pay more money10:45
Lion-OSomething I am trying to avoid10:45
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weedmicto me it would be worth it to receive an already setup no errors laptop by the manufacturer - but... you can always do it yourself.10:46
oerheksi see it on this linuxnow page, so i guess it is fully compatible10:46
oerhekshttps://www.linuxnow.com.au/nshp6G8Z0PA.html10:46
oerheksjust a poor screen, 1366x76810:47
oerheks... for $180010:47
Lion-OIt's for buying the laptop with ubuntu already installed right?10:48
oerheksno10:49
weedmicI don't really like to deal with screens less than 1080 - I never get things to line up the way I really already have them on other machines.10:49
oerheksoh wait, i scroll down .. yes10:49
Lion-Oweedmic, is the screen resolution not standard?10:50
oerheks'hd-ready'10:51
Lion-Oits 1920 x 108010:52
weedmic^that is now the lowest standard most accept - even my phone has better than 1920x108010:53
Lion-OI am not looking for more than that :)10:53
oerhekssome HP ProBook 450 G9 i5 models give 1366x768 ...10:54
oerhekscarefull what you buy!10:55
Lion-OI double check everything although there are other things more important to me than resolution10:56
Lion-OLike RAM and cpu speed10:56
Terminal-VHi. I'm running Ubuntu 20.04 LTS which I am running an OpenVPN server on it. The server listens on port 1194, however, it appears the server has accepted a connection on port 2210. Can somebody please explain to me what's going on? https://imageupload.io/ib/8usoP3m2UsM4ZTa_1693826239.png11:20
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BluesKajHi all11:46
Apachezdidnt it back in the days exist some package regarding readcache of filesystems? what was it name (tried "readcached" but no obvious hits on google)12:28
leftyfbApachez: are you referring to readahead?12:34
Apachezhmm could be12:36
mybalzitchbcache?12:36
Apachezpreload is the same package nowadays?12:36
oerheks'Note that installing preload will not make your system boot faster' https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jammy/+package/preload12:39
Apachezyeah I know.. this is just to check if it could boost stuff when it comes to overlayfs using squashfs as lowerdir12:49
oerheksi guess this was a thing before systemd12:51
leftyfbit's been a thing for at least over 10 years. I used to install it on hosting servers in a datacenter over 10 years ago12:52
Apachezdoes systemd include something similar?12:58
Apachezaccording to some docs it seems like overlay2 which docker uses has readcache while the overlayfs from the kernel itself doesnt?12:59
minthi there13:51
mintHow are you13:51
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rainpourI'm using a VM inside Ubuntu13:52
rainpourMint inside Ubuntu13:52
rainpourSeems to be a good mix too13:52
rainpourIs this channel for questions pertaining to Ubuntu / Linux?13:52
jeremy31rainpour: This is for Ubuntu support only.  Mint provides its own support13:52
rainpourI have questions pertaining to Ubuntu for sure13:53
rainpour~~Dear 1082~ish people, Whilst using Ubuntu, which software might you recommend for say, lowering voltages on CPU, downclocking as well? And which battery optimizing software / power saving system would you recommend?13:57
oerheksubuntu (gnome) gives pretty good powermanagment OOTB, downclocking makes no sense to me14:00
rainpouroerheks: Do you think it would be best to leave the power management alone then? Instead of installing TLP or Powertop or something like that?14:01
oerhekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/power.html.en14:01
rainpourDownclocking is only because these PC's I have will be on 24/7.14:01
oerheksTLP is available, sure14:01
rainpourk14:01
rainpourDo you know if using a USB Live, will use less power than an internal drive on a lapop?14:02
rainpourlaptop*14:02
rainpourOr even say, running a laptop off an external NVME drive14:03
oerhekseven with a live session, the hdd spinns up ..14:03
rainpourok good to know14:04
UthmanFirst of all, overclocking motherboard utilities arent common in linux as it is in winodws14:05
rainpourwhy is that?14:05
Uthmanno first party support14:05
rainpourk14:06
Uthmanthere isnt even intel igp or radeon tuning frontend14:06
Uthmannvidea has a control panel14:07
Uthmanas to power management, tlp is best bet.14:07
rainpourI noticed that when I install ^ TLP ^ in Ubuntu, it doesn't negate the upper right window power selections14:08
Uthmanslimbook has a battery control utility. search for slimbook ppa14:08
Uthmanit offers performance profiles14:08
Uthmanmight work with other branded laptops too14:09
rainpourya that's what I was wondering about, the regular power profiles in Ubuntu seem to override TLP for me. Any reason why that may be?14:09
oerheksknown bug14:09
rainpourok. Perhaps hardware mismatch14:09
Uthmangnome has an extension to set battery threshold14:09
Uthmanit can be done in tlp too14:09
rainpourk14:09
Uthmanbut you may have to write a systemd service file to set threshold from boot sequence14:10
rainpourOh yes, to reset the thresholds, yes, for Lenovo I have done that.14:10
rainpourDo you know if Ubuntu is compatible with external GPU?14:11
rainpourVia Thunderbolt 4?14:11
Uthmani dont14:11
rainpourI have bad ideas about external GPUS, but apparently Thunderbolt 4 is enough to carry all required bandwidtch14:11
rainpourIs there a default application for saving backups?14:13
Uthmanthere is. dejadup i think14:13
oerheksin mint?14:13
Uthmanubuntu channel14:14
rainpourwhat is the Ubuntu Channel?14:15
rainpourthis one?14:15
Uthmanyes14:15
rainpourIs it the official one?14:15
Uthmanon irc, yes.14:15
oerheksWe told you already, rainpour14:15
rainpourJust making sure, because I have found Ubuntu channels everywhere on IRC. That goes for other distros too14:16
rainpourIs it generally a good idea to install a firewall in Ubuntu? Like UFW or other?14:16
Uthmanwindows has a hybrid sleep mode. its suspend then hibernate. youll need to enable hibernate first.14:17
rainpouron Ubuntu?14:17
Uthmanhiberate isnt officially supported, but it works. read online14:18
rainpourok14:18
rainpourAre there any issues that I should be aware of?14:18
jwashhi everyone, every couple of days i get a freeze, i think it's lightdm https://imgur.com/8v1QHSY.png . How would you verify and fix the issue?14:18
Uthmanwhat gpu?14:18
jwashgtx960\14:19
jwashusing the nouveau driver14:19
Uthmanenabling suspend then hibernate on linux requires tinkering with sytsemd services14:19
jwashthink it's a suspend/hibernate issue? i'm happy to disable14:20
Uthmansorry. not meant for you14:20
jwashoh, shame14:20
Uthmantry installing nvidia drivers14:20
jwashif it were only that easy14:20
Uthmantheres a few "standard" kernel parameters suggested everywhere to fix hang issues. try them14:21
Uthmanfirewall is included in kernel itself, its an integral part of every linux system14:23
rainpour^ thankx14:23
rainpourHow do I enable?14:23
rainpourand is there a GUI or CLI method to run the dang thing?14:24
jwashsudo systemctl status ufw14:25
oerhekson your ubuntu host or mint vm?14:25
ravagerainpour: a default ubuntu installation should not expose anything that you need to firewall14:25
rainpourufw is preinstalleD?14:25
jwashwas for me14:25
rainpourI'm talking about ubuntu only14:25
oerheks!info gufw14:25
ubottugufw (22.04.0-1, lunar): graphical user interface for ufw. In component universe, is optional. Built by gui-ufw. Size 909 kB / 3,585 kB14:25
jwashrun that in the cmd line14:25
rainpourthank you14:26
jwashsee if it's enabled14:26
jwashif not install ufw14:26
jwashthen enable it14:26
jwashif that's what you want14:26
jeremy31rainpour: If you lose connection after enabling it, disable it14:27
rainpourAccording to the terminal, it says it is active already, ok good.14:28
jwashyep14:28
jwashsudo ufw allow <port>14:28
oerheksactive, without rules14:28
rainpourno way14:28
jwashto allow a specific port number14:28
rainpourthat simple? That's awesome14:28
jwashit has rules, deny inbound allow outbound14:29
jwashyou have to allow inbound ports if that's what you want14:29
Uthmani used this ugly hack to enable suspend then hibernate by replacing suspend service. ln -s /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-suspend-then-hibernate.service /etc/systemd/system/systemd-suspend.service14:29
Uthmandont enable windows style hybrid sleep if you have huge amount of ram14:30
jwashi already linked them to /dev/null14:30
jwashi'll see if that helps14:30
Yakovhow to open new gnome terminal from gnome terminal14:31
Uthmansleep parameters are in /etc/systemd/sleep.conf14:32
Yakovfound -> its gnome-terminal --tab, but how to open new terminal and command ls? | gnome-terminal --tab && ls has no effect14:37
oerheksctrl alt t again14:37
Yakovi need to make it with cmd14:38
Uthmannew gnome terminal window?14:38
Yakovyes14:38
oerheksor hit that little + left upside on the panel14:39
Yakovits mandatory to start with command14:39
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jhutchinsYakov: Maybe have a look at .bash_login14:47
jhutchinsThat would run with every new shell though.14:47
YakovI would look, but I dont understand14:48
Uthmanwrite a script14:48
YakovI can not write bash scripts :)  any clues?14:59
Uthmangnome-terminal -e "bash -c 'ls; bash;'"15:04
YakovUthman, ty15:07
Yakovhow to wrap the cpp line to make syntax right?   system("gnome-terminal -e /"bash -c 'sensors; bash;'/"");15:12
Yakovsolved, reversed backslash15:17
turanhi ubys15:23
jack269new install, getting "report error" on boot with no information.18:02
lotuspsychjejack269: at wich step of your boot exactly?18:02
jack269when DE finishes loading18:03
lotuspsychjejack269: wich ubuntu release are you trying?18:03
jack26922.04.3  mate - nvidia/nouveau18:03
lotuspsychjejack269: your error dialog doesnt have a more details button?18:05
jack269no18:05
jack269someone said to go to GA kernel - 5.15 - not sure how18:05
lotuspsychjejack269: can you check if your /var/crash dir has items inside?18:06
jack269looks  brb18:06
jack269it keeps pointing to compiz but everything works well18:08
lotuspsychjejack269: could you share your 'dmesg' in a !paste with the volunteers here, maybe we can find something there18:08
lotuspsychje!paste18:09
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://dpaste.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:09
jack269https://dpaste.com/ED6WBKF8H18:11
jack269Initially, i started out with a nvidia card/ then switched it for another nvidia card / did not change drivers since nouveau worked18:13
lotuspsychjejack269: you can trigger sudo dmesg from a terminal, or /var/log/dmesg into a paste18:14
jack269https://dpaste.com/FH6XRLXFZ18:15
lotuspsychjejack269: can you dpaste; sudo lshw -C video , too please18:19
jack269https://dpaste.com/6A7WXKXE718:20
lotuspsychjejack269: we can try switching to the nvidia driver as a test if you like, in addiction drivers18:21
lotuspsychje*additional drivers18:21
jack269my last install didnt like those drivers, but i could see if that works18:22
jack269but, that was when ubuntu went with 22.04 HWE stack18:22
jack269or 6.218:22
lotuspsychjejack269: lets try a driver switch first to see what happens18:25
jack269ok, ill give it a go, back in a few - thanks lotus.18:25
jack269drivers work , same "report error"18:35
lotuspsychjejack269: ok tnx for testing, so lets assume the report is about something else18:36
jack269should i feed it a cheese burger ?18:37
lotuspsychjejack269: can you execute ; sudo dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999 and share the link you getting plz18:39
jack269ok18:39
jack269https://termbin.com/w12318:40
lotuspsychjejack269: looks rather sane to me, besides a few acpi bugs and nvidia lines18:43
jack269exactly - maybe nothing to worry abt18:44
lotuspsychjejack269: your previous install was also mate?18:44
jack269yes18:44
lotuspsychjeand you didnt had an error there?18:45
jack269mate has always worked well18:45
lotuspsychjealkisg: you know anything suspecting like this on mate^^18:45
jack269i did have those errors - but some one directed me to change to the GA kernels and it worked , i just forgot how18:45
lotuspsychjei have to afk jack269 maybe someone else got more ideas to try18:47
jack269ok18:48
jhutchinsExcept he didn't.18:55
loswedsededffmpeg should work with m4a files, correct?19:22
rboxare you getting an error?19:23
kostkonloswedseded, it should19:24
hackyes, yes it does19:26
* hack said it in a phineas and ferb voice19:27
loswedsededffmpeg -i '01 c'.m4a -ss 00:02:01 -t 00:05:30 -c copy output.m4a < why does this command only trim at the beginning and not at the end? File is 7 minutes long19:28
dTalWhat do you expect it to do? 2 minutes + 5 minutes 30 seconds = 7 minutes 30 seconds i.e. beyond the end of the video.19:29
dTalYou've asked for a 5 and a half minute chunk, starting at 2 minutes in.19:30
YoGauMschool has started19:30
loswedsededlol19:31
dTalIf you want 5:30 to be the end time, instead of the duration, use -to instead of -t19:31
loswedsededoh19:31
loswedsededthanks dTal19:33
dTalNo problem!19:33
throwthecheeseIs it just me or does Firefox 117 have issues with certain sites?19:39
throwthecheeseRecently I've noticed that certain sites such as YT and Pling become unresponsive but do not exactly hang up fx19:40
throwthecheeseI can close their tabs and continue browsing fine but fx doesn't shut down properly after such tab freezes, crashing after trying to unload web content for a while instead19:45
jhutchinsthrowthecheese: First thing to try is probably another browser.19:47
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brownstrawIs EXT4 the best format to have in Linux for SSD's and Data space? Or am I wise to format in NTFS or something else that is cross-compatible with other operating systems?20:42
rboxthere is no "best"20:43
rboxjust differnet20:43
brownstrawkk20:44
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brownstrawDoes anyone have experience using external nvme with Grub?21:05
brownstrawi assume, that NVME will just work when I plug it in?21:10
brownstrawBut I would still need to yse a USB Live of Ubuntu, to target the external NVMe, correct?21:10
unpasCan use an external drive with normal installation of linux21:20
unpasbrownstraw: if that is what you mean21:23
brownstrawunpas: yes, thanks for clarifying for me.21:24
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tweakhi all. have installed ubuntu, kubuntu several times. trying to install ubuntu studio for my music room on an older pc, but every time i do, upon reboot, I am met with grub rescue. I've tried making a seperate boot partition, home, root, and storage, and installed grub to /boot but it wouldn't install there. I chose MBR and i am met with grub rescue. any ideas? this is a BIOS non uefi PC, 64 bit, and was running kubuntu before i wiped21:53
tweakit21:53
tweakhave tried the "erase disk" option, i get grub rescue -_-21:54
jeremy31tweak: is the drive getting GPT partitioning?21:54
tweakjeremy31: whatever the option it chooses when picking "use entire disk" I don't know, but I have been using MBR partitioning just because that's what it was using before21:55
jeremy31tweak: in terminal from ISO> sudo parted -l21:56
jeremy31The installer may default to GPT and some older machines can't understand it and need msdos21:57
tweakjeremy31: thank you, that must be what it is, this pc is from 2010! But it has enough power for music creation and good audio hardware ^^ thank you I am sure that's likely the issue22:01
jeremy31tweak: use gparted to make the drive msdos and create one large partition, choose something else when installing and select the large partition to be ext4 as /22:02
tweakjeremy31: understood, thank you kindly!22:03
jeremy31tweak: good luck22:03
tweakjeremy31: yeah that's got it, it's booting. thank you kindly heh22:08
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tester1I like Ubuntu, quite a bit. It is slightly less intuitive than others but I understand it cannot be perfect. :)22:59
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* jeremy31 bans m:dognose@*!*23:18
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