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[04:37] <salapin> greetings! On my computer I have two accounts, mine, which has administrator permissions, and my brother's, which is a standard account (without administrator permissions). The problem is when I connect a pendrive while in my brother's account, it always shows me errors because To the permissions, how could I solve this?
[04:40] <rbox> shoes you "errors"?
[04:41] <salapin> rbox, It usually tells me that I don't have access to the drive.
[04:42] <rbox> you can manually mount it
[04:42] <rbox> is it ext4 or some kind of fat filesystem?
[04:45] <salapin> rbox,
[04:45] <salapin> For example, the one I have now is in the ntfs file system, I have formatted it from my session with gnome-disk-utility and I have created the partition, I have copied a directory with two files, I go to my brother's session and it does not allows access to the disk, gives me permissions error
[04:45] <rbox> ntfs doesnt have permissions
[04:45] <rbox> so by deafult it just sets everyihtng to the user that mounts it
[04:46] <apocalyptech> Hello all!  Rather a left-field question here, but: I'm attempting to debug some font rendering issues on an app, and it turns out that the issue only shows up when running in certain WMs/DEs.  I'm trying to pinpoint exactly what's causing the behavior to be different
[04:46] <apocalyptech> WMs/DEs which *don't* exhibit the bad font formatting: gnome, enlightenment, kde plasma, mate, xfce4
[04:46] <apocalyptech> WMs/DEs which *do* exhibit the bad font formatting: afterstep, awesome, fluxbox, i3, icewm, jwm, openbox, windowmaker
[04:46] <apocalyptech> Any idea what the ones that work might have in common?
[04:47] <apocalyptech> I've tried comparing `strace` output when the thing runs in one versus the other, but I didn't see anything particularly useful (though it could be that I missed something, of course)
[04:48] <apocalyptech> But clearly the DEs in that first list are doing *something* to how fonts are given out to apps which the others aren't; basically just hoping to figure out what that is, so I can then get the app itself fixed up (or at least figure out a workaround)
[04:49] <matsaman> apocalyptech: sounds like the DEs that exhibit the problem are not DEs =P
[04:50] <matsaman> what's the problem anyway?
[04:50] <apocalyptech> https://github.com/bell-sw/Liberica/issues/140 <- that, specifically - lack of antialiasing, I suppose
[04:50] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 140 in bell-sw/Liberica "Ugly/Pixellated text on NIK-compiled AWT/Swing app, on Linux, in *some* WMs/DEs" [Open]
[04:51] <matsaman> apocalyptech: so for a java app?
[04:51] <apocalyptech> Well, not exactly
[04:51] <apocalyptech> There's a million layers at play here
[04:52] <matsaman> nah
[04:52] <apocalyptech> When run as Java everything's fine
[04:52] <apocalyptech> The thing that's having problems is a pure-native compiled version of the Java app (so, like, no actual system JVM required to run it)
[04:52] <matsaman> that's a pretty common issue with java apps, IIRC
[04:53] <apocalyptech> (Liberica NIK is a fork of Oracle's GraalVM Native Image, which among other things provides that "native" compilation of various languages)
[04:53] <matsaman> I remember some JetBrains apps having it manifest
[04:53] <matsaman> anyway, the DEs have a lot more provisioned than just window managers
[04:53] <matsaman> a lot more
[04:53] <apocalyptech> Yeah, I've seen stuff like that in the past too w/ java; often setting an env var along the lines of `FREETYPE_PROPERTIES="truetype:interpreter-version=35"` tends to do the trick in those cases
[04:54] <apocalyptech> But as I say, running it via Java in all cases works fine; it's only when it gets native-compiled that it starts manifesting
[04:54] <apocalyptech> Yeah, for sure
[04:55] <apocalyptech> I'm just trying to figure out *what* component that those heavier environments are providing which is making stuff nicer
[04:57] <apocalyptech> Like those other DEs wouldn't be providing their own `libfreetype.so` or something, I wouldn't think...
[04:57] <matsaman> maybe diff 'env' output, for a start
[04:58] <apocalyptech> Ah, yeah, suppose that would've been an obvious place to start
[05:02] <apocalyptech> Mm, nothing especially interesting there, though, alas.
[05:17] <apocalyptech> Aha, well, actually did manage to narrow it down to something which, on the Gnome side at least, is set up via gsd-xsettings
[05:25] <apocalyptech> Okay, and rather smoking-gunningly, one of the xsettings provided by that is `Xft/Antialias 1`.  If I set up a simple xsettingsd in, for instance, icewm (taking the various Xft/* entries provided by xdg-xsettings), fonts for this app start looking good
[05:25] <apocalyptech> Awesome
[05:25] <apocalyptech> Anyway, thanks for helpin' out.  :)
[05:47] <Terminal-V> Hello everyone. OpenVPN is listening in on port 1194, but it reports incoming connections on port 2210. Does anyone know what's going on with that?
[05:48] <Terminal-V> I am using Ubuntu 20.04 LTS BTW.
[05:50] <Terminal-V> This is the log I get: https://i.ibb.co/k6zMSzv/Untitled.png
[05:51] <Terminal-V> I have the firewall turn on and port 2210 inbound isn't allowed, so I don't understand what is happening here.
[05:52] <Terminal-V> Port 1194 is allowed, the port OpenVPN's is using to listen on.
[06:08] <Terminal-V> Cool
[06:47] <Terminal-V> I'm using Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. OpenVPN is listens on port 1194, but it reports incoming connections on port 2210. Does anyone know what's going on with that? https://i.ibb.co/k6zMSzv/Untitled.png
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[08:49] <gordonjcp> okay this is a bit off-the-wall and maybe not Ubuntu-specific
[08:50] <weedmic> ?
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[08:50] <gordonjcp> you know what I'd like, is a thing where I can stick a bunch of images in a directory and "flip" through them as desktop backgrounds, maybe with the mouse scrollwheel and a modifier key
[08:50] <gordonjcp> and just throwing it out there, have any of you heard of something that'll do something like that?
[08:50] <pagios> hi all
[08:50] <pagios> what do yuo think of POPOS
[08:51] <gordonjcp> use case is, I've got a bunch of stuff like watch duty calendars, aides memoires, and so on, which I need to refer to for work, and it's annoying opening up Files and clicking through to the thing I want
[08:51] <gordonjcp> it'd be awesome to just kind of rolodex through them on the desktop
[08:53] <weedmic> They took that out - supposed to be some type of security issue.  However, you can still install xflame and the support package around it.  then setup what you like.  but I no longer remember how.  I kept getting a line in the middle I could nto fix and moved on...
[08:53] <gordonjcp> xflame?
[08:54] <gordonjcp> I thought that just drew flames on the desktop
[08:55] <weedmic> it is a screensaver that runs on something I forgot the name of - one of the options is a directory of pics to show a few secs at a time (or xflame)
[08:56] <gordonjcp> ah okay
[08:56] <gordonjcp> yeah that could be a place to start I guess
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[10:20] <Lion-O> I am planning to buy HP ProBook 450 G9 i5. it comes with freeDos. How can I make sure I will be able to install ubuntu on it and with no compatibility issues?
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> !hardware | Lion-O start here
[10:23] <ubottu> Lion-O start here: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> Lion-O: just make sure its no chromebook HP
[10:25] <Lion-O> lotuspsychje, its not chromebook
[10:25] <Lion-O> Are chromebook known as problematic with ubuntu?
[10:25] <lotuspsychje> Lion-O: chromebooks are different to install ubuntu on, needs alternate ways with crouton
[10:27] <ravage> depends on the model. on older chromebooks i managed to install coreboot and do a regular installation
[10:27] <lotuspsychje> interesting ravage
[10:28] <ravage> Lion-O: the hardware looks "compatible". sometimes wifi can be a problem and you need to find a driver for that. the rest looks fine
[10:30] <Lion-O> There are usb wifi adapter dongles I assume that can solve that.
[10:30] <ravage> but AX211 seems to be supported on kernel 5.15. so i guess it will work fine on 6.2
[10:30] <ravage> HP says "Intel® Wi-Fi 6E AX211 (2x2) "
[10:31] <ravage> intel graphics can sometimes be glitchy too. heard about some bugs with "Iris" cards.
[10:31] <ravage> but not sure if that will affect you
[10:32] <Lion-O> I don't see any issues on wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection lotuspsychje gave me for this HP model
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> AX can have some bugs on newer kernels too
[10:34] <Lion-O> AX is that new?
[10:34] <Lion-O> The IEEE 802.11ax standard was finalised on September 1, 2020 when Draft 8 received 95% approval in the sponsor ballot and received final approval from the IEEE ...
[10:38] <Lion-O> Ubuntu 20.04 LTS 64 Bit: Standard images of Ubuntu may not work well, or at all
[10:44] <weedmic> Lion-O: order the laptop with linux pre-installed
[10:45] <Lion-O> weedmic, it means pay more money
[10:45] <Lion-O> Something I am trying to avoid
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[10:46] <weedmic> to me it would be worth it to receive an already setup no errors laptop by the manufacturer - but... you can always do it yourself.
[10:46] <oerheks> i see it on this linuxnow page, so i guess it is fully compatible
[10:46] <oerheks> https://www.linuxnow.com.au/nshp6G8Z0PA.html
[10:47] <oerheks> just a poor screen, 1366x768
[10:47] <oerheks> ... for $1800
[10:48] <Lion-O> It's for buying the laptop with ubuntu already installed right?
[10:49] <oerheks> no
[10:49] <weedmic> I don't really like to deal with screens less than 1080 - I never get things to line up the way I really already have them on other machines.
[10:49] <oerheks> oh wait, i scroll down .. yes
[10:50] <Lion-O> weedmic, is the screen resolution not standard?
[10:51] <oerheks> 'hd-ready'
[10:52] <Lion-O> its 1920 x 1080
[10:53] <weedmic> ^that is now the lowest standard most accept - even my phone has better than 1920x1080
[10:53] <Lion-O> I am not looking for more than that :)
[10:54] <oerheks> some HP ProBook 450 G9 i5 models give 1366x768 ...
[10:55] <oerheks> carefull what you buy!
[10:56] <Lion-O> I double check everything although there are other things more important to me than resolution
[10:56] <Lion-O> Like RAM and cpu speed
[11:20] <Terminal-V> Hi. I'm running Ubuntu 20.04 LTS which I am running an OpenVPN server on it. The server listens on port 1194, however, it appears the server has accepted a connection on port 2210. Can somebody please explain to me what's going on? https://imageupload.io/ib/8usoP3m2UsM4ZTa_1693826239.png
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[11:46] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:28] <Apachez> didnt it back in the days exist some package regarding readcache of filesystems? what was it name (tried "readcached" but no obvious hits on google)
[12:34] <leftyfb> Apachez: are you referring to readahead?
[12:36] <Apachez> hmm could be
[12:36] <mybalzitch> bcache?
[12:36] <Apachez> preload is the same package nowadays?
[12:39] <oerheks> 'Note that installing preload will not make your system boot faster' https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jammy/+package/preload
[12:49] <Apachez> yeah I know.. this is just to check if it could boost stuff when it comes to overlayfs using squashfs as lowerdir
[12:51] <oerheks> i guess this was a thing before systemd
[12:52] <leftyfb> it's been a thing for at least over 10 years. I used to install it on hosting servers in a datacenter over 10 years ago
[12:58] <Apachez> does systemd include something similar?
[12:59] <Apachez> according to some docs it seems like overlay2 which docker uses has readcache while the overlayfs from the kernel itself doesnt?
[13:51] <mint> hi there
[13:51] <mint> How are you
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[13:52] <rainpour> I'm using a VM inside Ubuntu
[13:52] <rainpour> Mint inside Ubuntu
[13:52] <rainpour> Seems to be a good mix too
[13:52] <rainpour> Is this channel for questions pertaining to Ubuntu / Linux?
[13:52] <jeremy31> rainpour: This is for Ubuntu support only.  Mint provides its own support
[13:53] <rainpour> I have questions pertaining to Ubuntu for sure
[13:57] <rainpour> ~~Dear 1082~ish people, Whilst using Ubuntu, which software might you recommend for say, lowering voltages on CPU, downclocking as well? And which battery optimizing software / power saving system would you recommend?
[14:00] <oerheks> ubuntu (gnome) gives pretty good powermanagment OOTB, downclocking makes no sense to me
[14:01] <rainpour> oerheks: Do you think it would be best to leave the power management alone then? Instead of installing TLP or Powertop or something like that?
[14:01] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/power.html.en
[14:01] <rainpour> Downclocking is only because these PC's I have will be on 24/7.
[14:01] <oerheks> TLP is available, sure
[14:01] <rainpour> k
[14:02] <rainpour> Do you know if using a USB Live, will use less power than an internal drive on a lapop?
[14:02] <rainpour> laptop*
[14:03] <rainpour> Or even say, running a laptop off an external NVME drive
[14:03] <oerheks> even with a live session, the hdd spinns up ..
[14:04] <rainpour> ok good to know
[14:05] <Uthman> First of all, overclocking motherboard utilities arent common in linux as it is in winodws
[14:05] <rainpour> why is that?
[14:05] <Uthman> no first party support
[14:06] <rainpour> k
[14:06] <Uthman> there isnt even intel igp or radeon tuning frontend
[14:07] <Uthman> nvidea has a control panel
[14:07] <Uthman> as to power management, tlp is best bet.
[14:08] <rainpour> I noticed that when I install ^ TLP ^ in Ubuntu, it doesn't negate the upper right window power selections
[14:08] <Uthman> slimbook has a battery control utility. search for slimbook ppa
[14:08] <Uthman> it offers performance profiles
[14:09] <Uthman> might work with other branded laptops too
[14:09] <rainpour> ya that's what I was wondering about, the regular power profiles in Ubuntu seem to override TLP for me. Any reason why that may be?
[14:09] <oerheks> known bug
[14:09] <rainpour> ok. Perhaps hardware mismatch
[14:09] <Uthman> gnome has an extension to set battery threshold
[14:09] <Uthman> it can be done in tlp too
[14:09] <rainpour> k
[14:10] <Uthman> but you may have to write a systemd service file to set threshold from boot sequence
[14:10] <rainpour> Oh yes, to reset the thresholds, yes, for Lenovo I have done that.
[14:11] <rainpour> Do you know if Ubuntu is compatible with external GPU?
[14:11] <rainpour> Via Thunderbolt 4?
[14:11] <Uthman> i dont
[14:11] <rainpour> I have bad ideas about external GPUS, but apparently Thunderbolt 4 is enough to carry all required bandwidtch
[14:13] <rainpour> Is there a default application for saving backups?
[14:13] <Uthman> there is. dejadup i think
[14:13] <oerheks> in mint?
[14:14] <Uthman> ubuntu channel
[14:15] <rainpour> what is the Ubuntu Channel?
[14:15] <rainpour> this one?
[14:15] <Uthman> yes
[14:15] <rainpour> Is it the official one?
[14:15] <Uthman> on irc, yes.
[14:15] <oerheks> We told you already, rainpour
[14:16] <rainpour> Just making sure, because I have found Ubuntu channels everywhere on IRC. That goes for other distros too
[14:16] <rainpour> Is it generally a good idea to install a firewall in Ubuntu? Like UFW or other?
[14:17] <Uthman> windows has a hybrid sleep mode. its suspend then hibernate. youll need to enable hibernate first.
[14:17] <rainpour> on Ubuntu?
[14:18] <Uthman> hiberate isnt officially supported, but it works. read online
[14:18] <rainpour> ok
[14:18] <rainpour> Are there any issues that I should be aware of?
[14:18] <jwash> hi everyone, every couple of days i get a freeze, i think it's lightdm https://imgur.com/8v1QHSY.png . How would you verify and fix the issue?
[14:18] <Uthman> what gpu?
[14:19] <jwash> gtx960\
[14:19] <jwash> using the nouveau driver
[14:19] <Uthman> enabling suspend then hibernate on linux requires tinkering with sytsemd services
[14:20] <jwash> think it's a suspend/hibernate issue? i'm happy to disable
[14:20] <Uthman> sorry. not meant for you
[14:20] <jwash> oh, shame
[14:20] <Uthman> try installing nvidia drivers
[14:20] <jwash> if it were only that easy
[14:21] <Uthman> theres a few "standard" kernel parameters suggested everywhere to fix hang issues. try them
[14:23] <Uthman> firewall is included in kernel itself, its an integral part of every linux system
[14:23] <rainpour> ^ thankx
[14:23] <rainpour> How do I enable?
[14:24] <rainpour> and is there a GUI or CLI method to run the dang thing?
[14:25] <jwash> sudo systemctl status ufw
[14:25] <oerheks> on your ubuntu host or mint vm?
[14:25] <ravage> rainpour: a default ubuntu installation should not expose anything that you need to firewall
[14:25] <rainpour> ufw is preinstalleD?
[14:25] <jwash> was for me
[14:25] <rainpour> I'm talking about ubuntu only
[14:25] <oerheks> !info gufw
[14:25] <ubottu> gufw (22.04.0-1, lunar): graphical user interface for ufw. In component universe, is optional. Built by gui-ufw. Size 909 kB / 3,585 kB
[14:25] <jwash> run that in the cmd line
[14:26] <rainpour> thank you
[14:26] <jwash> see if it's enabled
[14:26] <jwash> if not install ufw
[14:26] <jwash> then enable it
[14:26] <jwash> if that's what you want
[14:27] <jeremy31> rainpour: If you lose connection after enabling it, disable it
[14:28] <rainpour> According to the terminal, it says it is active already, ok good.
[14:28] <jwash> yep
[14:28] <jwash> sudo ufw allow <port>
[14:28] <oerheks> active, without rules
[14:28] <rainpour> no way
[14:28] <jwash> to allow a specific port number
[14:28] <rainpour> that simple? That's awesome
[14:29] <jwash> it has rules, deny inbound allow outbound
[14:29] <jwash> you have to allow inbound ports if that's what you want
[14:29] <Uthman> i used this ugly hack to enable suspend then hibernate by replacing suspend service. ln -s /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-suspend-then-hibernate.service /etc/systemd/system/systemd-suspend.service
[14:30] <Uthman> dont enable windows style hybrid sleep if you have huge amount of ram
[14:30] <jwash> i already linked them to /dev/null
[14:30] <jwash> i'll see if that helps
[14:31] <Yakov> how to open new gnome terminal from gnome terminal
[14:32] <Uthman> sleep parameters are in /etc/systemd/sleep.conf
[14:37] <Yakov> found -> its gnome-terminal --tab, but how to open new terminal and command ls? | gnome-terminal --tab && ls has no effect
[14:37] <oerheks> ctrl alt t again
[14:38] <Yakov> i need to make it with cmd
[14:38] <Uthman> new gnome terminal window?
[14:38] <Yakov> yes
[14:39] <oerheks> or hit that little + left upside on the panel
[14:39] <Yakov> its mandatory to start with command
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[14:47] <jhutchins> Yakov: Maybe have a look at .bash_login
[14:47] <jhutchins> That would run with every new shell though.
[14:48] <Yakov> I would look, but I dont understand
[14:48] <Uthman> write a script
[14:59] <Yakov> I can not write bash scripts :)  any clues?
[15:04] <Uthman> gnome-terminal -e "bash -c 'ls; bash;'"
[15:07] <Yakov> Uthman, ty
[15:12] <Yakov> how to wrap the cpp line to make syntax right?   system("gnome-terminal -e /"bash -c 'sensors; bash;'/"");
[15:17] <Yakov> solved, reversed backslash
[15:23] <turan> hi ubys
[18:02] <jack269> new install, getting "report error" on boot with no information.
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> jack269: at wich step of your boot exactly?
[18:03] <jack269> when DE finishes loading
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> jack269: wich ubuntu release are you trying?
[18:03] <jack269> 22.04.3  mate - nvidia/nouveau
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> jack269: your error dialog doesnt have a more details button?
[18:05] <jack269> no
[18:05] <jack269> someone said to go to GA kernel - 5.15 - not sure how
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> jack269: can you check if your /var/crash dir has items inside?
[18:06] <jack269> looks  brb
[18:08] <jack269> it keeps pointing to compiz but everything works well
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> jack269: could you share your 'dmesg' in a !paste with the volunteers here, maybe we can find something there
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> !paste
[18:09] <ubottu> For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://dpaste.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[18:11] <jack269> https://dpaste.com/ED6WBKF8H
[18:13] <jack269> Initially, i started out with a nvidia card/ then switched it for another nvidia card / did not change drivers since nouveau worked
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> jack269: you can trigger sudo dmesg from a terminal, or /var/log/dmesg into a paste
[18:15] <jack269> https://dpaste.com/FH6XRLXFZ
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> jack269: can you dpaste; sudo lshw -C video , too please
[18:20] <jack269> https://dpaste.com/6A7WXKXE7
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> jack269: we can try switching to the nvidia driver as a test if you like, in addiction drivers
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> *additional drivers
[18:22] <jack269> my last install didnt like those drivers, but i could see if that works
[18:22] <jack269> but, that was when ubuntu went with 22.04 HWE stack
[18:22] <jack269> or 6.2
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> jack269: lets try a driver switch first to see what happens
[18:25] <jack269> ok, ill give it a go, back in a few - thanks lotus.
[18:35] <jack269> drivers work , same "report error"
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> jack269: ok tnx for testing, so lets assume the report is about something else
[18:37] <jack269> should i feed it a cheese burger ?
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> jack269: can you execute ; sudo dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999 and share the link you getting plz
[18:39] <jack269> ok
[18:40] <jack269> https://termbin.com/w123
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> jack269: looks rather sane to me, besides a few acpi bugs and nvidia lines
[18:44] <jack269> exactly - maybe nothing to worry abt
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> jack269: your previous install was also mate?
[18:44] <jack269> yes
[18:45] <lotuspsychje> and you didnt had an error there?
[18:45] <jack269> mate has always worked well
[18:45] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: you know anything suspecting like this on mate^^
[18:45] <jack269> i did have those errors - but some one directed me to change to the GA kernels and it worked , i just forgot how
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> i have to afk jack269 maybe someone else got more ideas to try
[18:48] <jack269> ok
[18:55] <jhutchins> Except he didn't.
[19:22] <loswedseded> ffmpeg should work with m4a files, correct?
[19:23] <rbox> are you getting an error?
[19:24] <kostkon> loswedseded, it should
[19:26] <hack> yes, yes it does
[19:27]  * hack said it in a phineas and ferb voice
[19:28] <loswedseded> ffmpeg -i '01 c'.m4a -ss 00:02:01 -t 00:05:30 -c copy output.m4a < why does this command only trim at the beginning and not at the end? File is 7 minutes long
[19:29] <dTal> What do you expect it to do? 2 minutes + 5 minutes 30 seconds = 7 minutes 30 seconds i.e. beyond the end of the video.
[19:30] <dTal> You've asked for a 5 and a half minute chunk, starting at 2 minutes in.
[19:30] <YoGauM> school has started
[19:31] <loswedseded> lol
[19:31] <dTal> If you want 5:30 to be the end time, instead of the duration, use -to instead of -t
[19:31] <loswedseded> oh
[19:33] <loswedseded> thanks dTal
[19:33] <dTal> No problem!
[19:39] <throwthecheese> Is it just me or does Firefox 117 have issues with certain sites?
[19:40] <throwthecheese> Recently I've noticed that certain sites such as YT and Pling become unresponsive but do not exactly hang up fx
[19:45] <throwthecheese> I can close their tabs and continue browsing fine but fx doesn't shut down properly after such tab freezes, crashing after trying to unload web content for a while instead
[19:47] <jhutchins> throwthecheese: First thing to try is probably another browser.
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[20:42] <brownstraw> Is EXT4 the best format to have in Linux for SSD's and Data space? Or am I wise to format in NTFS or something else that is cross-compatible with other operating systems?
[20:43] <rbox> there is no "best"
[20:43] <rbox> just differnet
[20:44] <brownstraw> kk
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[21:05] <brownstraw> Does anyone have experience using external nvme with Grub?
[21:10] <brownstraw> i assume, that NVME will just work when I plug it in?
[21:10] <brownstraw> But I would still need to yse a USB Live of Ubuntu, to target the external NVMe, correct?
[21:20] <unpas> Can use an external drive with normal installation of linux
[21:23] <unpas> brownstraw: if that is what you mean
[21:24] <brownstraw> unpas: yes, thanks for clarifying for me.
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[21:53] <tweak> hi all. have installed ubuntu, kubuntu several times. trying to install ubuntu studio for my music room on an older pc, but every time i do, upon reboot, I am met with grub rescue. I've tried making a seperate boot partition, home, root, and storage, and installed grub to /boot but it wouldn't install there. I chose MBR and i am met with grub rescue. any ideas? this is a BIOS non uefi PC, 64 bit, and was running kubuntu before i wiped
[21:53] <tweak> it
[21:54] <tweak> have tried the "erase disk" option, i get grub rescue -_-
[21:54] <jeremy31> tweak: is the drive getting GPT partitioning?
[21:55] <tweak> jeremy31: whatever the option it chooses when picking "use entire disk" I don't know, but I have been using MBR partitioning just because that's what it was using before
[21:56] <jeremy31> tweak: in terminal from ISO> sudo parted -l
[21:57] <jeremy31> The installer may default to GPT and some older machines can't understand it and need msdos
[22:01] <tweak> jeremy31: thank you, that must be what it is, this pc is from 2010! But it has enough power for music creation and good audio hardware ^^ thank you I am sure that's likely the issue
[22:02] <jeremy31> tweak: use gparted to make the drive msdos and create one large partition, choose something else when installing and select the large partition to be ext4 as /
[22:03] <tweak> jeremy31: understood, thank you kindly!
[22:03] <jeremy31> tweak: good luck
[22:08] <tweak> jeremy31: yeah that's got it, it's booting. thank you kindly heh
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[22:59] <tester1> I like Ubuntu, quite a bit. It is slightly less intuitive than others but I understand it cannot be perfect. :)
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