[03:43] <luna_> hi
[12:14] <xu-help47w> hi someone?
[12:15] <xu-help47w> i need help with a xubuntu or xfc installl
[12:22] <xu-help47w> hello?
[12:24] <bittin> what is the more exact question?
[12:26] <xu-help47w> thanks
[12:27] <xu-help47w> its the black window (intramfs)
[12:27] <xu-help47w> when i install xubuntu or linux mint xfce
[12:29] <xu-help47w> i dont know what i do
[12:29] <xu-help47w> and dont find any inf0rmation in the web
[12:33] <xu-help47w> in others distros i use fsck but in that donts works?
[12:45] <xu-help47w> and dont find any inf0rmation in the web
[12:51] <xu-help47w> ok
[12:51] <xu-help47w> its imposible
[23:26] <dognose> Hello there
[23:26] <dognose> What is the purpose of this chatroom/
[23:29] <GridCube> dognose, you can ask questions about support here and someone might be able to point you toward a solution, or might not, depends on who's around
[23:29] <guiverc> Xubuntu support (supported releases are 22.04 & 23.04)
[23:30] <dognose> thank you
[23:30]  * guiverc believes you already knew that 
[23:30] <dognose> I'm a noobie for the most part. 
[23:30] <dognose> Xubuntu is what exactly?
[23:30] <rud0lf> dognose: are you named after playstation analog controller?
[23:30] <rud0lf> they have texture of dog noses
[23:31] <dognose> ^ haha
[23:31] <guiverc> Ubuntu Desktop with the Xfce desktop having replaced GNOME (includes desktop & apps)
[23:31] <dognose> I'll google it, but now that is coincidence
[23:31] <dognose> So newest iteration of Ubuntu?
[23:31] <dognose> Or just Gnome?
[23:31] <dognose> I absolutely love Gnome Ubuntu
[23:31] <dognose> So if that is what XUbuntu is, it sounds like I'm in the right channel. 
[23:31] <guiverc> Xubuntu 22.04 is the same Ubuntu base as Ubuntu 22.04 Desktop; but GNOME & gnome-apps have been replaced by Xfce & Xfce apps  - Xfce is much lighter
[23:32] <dognose> ok
[23:32] <dognose> Might be a stupid question, but if I have installed Gnome in Ubuntu, does that mean I then have XUbuntu installed?
[23:32] <GridCube> no
[23:33] <guiverc> Ubuntu Desktop by default already has GNOME.
[23:33] <GridCube> xubuntu is xfce dekstop replacing whatever mainbuntu is running nowadays
[23:33] <dognose> thankx for clarifying, I had it backwards then
[23:33] <dognose> I prefer lighter distros. 
[23:33] <GridCube> if you want to run xubuntu and you already have ubuntu installed you just need to run sudo apt install xubuntu-desktop
[23:33] <dognose> ^ perfect, you answered my next question thankx
[23:34] <guiverc> all Ubuntu flavors (which includes Xubuntu) are built the same way as Ubuntu Desktop; just using different seed files meaning different packages are included by default.. Xubuntu is a Ubuntu system...
[23:34] <dognose> Will that just overwrite everything and automatically default to Xubuntu XFCE stuff>
[23:34] <dognose> ?
[23:34] <dognose> Or is it two different desktop environments installed?
[23:34] <dognose> To toggle / choose from
[23:34] <GridCube> no
[23:34] <Unit193> Nope, there should be a choice at the login screen.  Though you will still have all of GNOME and whatever extras it has too.
[23:35] <GridCube> installing xubuntu-desktop will just install the defaults of xubuntu alongside the mainbuntu defaults
[23:35] <guiverc> my system has 3 DEs installed; Ubuntu Desktop (thus GNOME), Xubuntu Desktop (thus Xfce) & Lubuntu Desktop (LXQt)... I added what I wanted & select which I use when I login
[23:35] <dognose> ahh ok, you're talking about the bottom right on the login screen?
[23:35] <GridCube> maybe? it changes with whatever login manager you're running
[23:35] <dognose> k thankx
[23:35] <dognose> Wow I didn't realize it was that simple to install alternative desktop environments. 
[23:36] <GridCube> you should be able to chose the desktop from any login manager
[23:36] <dognose> How much battery life would I save on a laptop you think? I get 10 hours or so on Gnome now, will doing XFCE increase battery life a bit you think?
[23:37] <xangua> Maybe, maybe not
[23:37] <dognose> k
[23:38] <dognose> I think your chatroom is more appropriate to be asking Ubuntu related questions. I don't like bothering 1000~ish people lol
[23:38] <GridCube> lol
[23:38] <GridCube> that's fine
[23:38] <dognose> Thank you
[23:38] <GridCube> the only stupid question is the one you don't ask
[23:38] <dognose> I'll change my nick from time to time, as this is just a temporary one
[23:38] <dognose> haha I agree with linux stuff especially. So much to learn. 
[23:38] <Unit193> Though keep in mind our answeres might be biased, many of us have strong feelings about GNOME. :)
[23:38] <GridCube> <.<
[23:38] <GridCube> >.>
[23:39] <GridCube> i tried gnome3 the other day
[23:39] <GridCube> almost screamed my head off
[23:39] <GridCube> what a horrible horrible desktop paradigm
[23:39] <dognose> Are they trying to be innovative?
[23:39] <dognose> Like Apple?
[23:40] <GridCube> no idea
[23:40] <Unit193> Last I knew they were trying to create an interface that worked everywhere, mobile, desktop, etc.  So, it works nowhere well. :P
[23:40] <dognose> lol
[23:41] <GridCube> yeah that's the feel i  got when i was using it
[23:41] <GridCube> it was like "this is a touchscreen interface"
[23:41] <GridCube> like windows 8
[23:42] <GridCube> oh wait it wasn't gnome3, it was gnome 40
[23:43] <dognose> gross
[23:43] <dognose> Windows 8 was horrid
[23:45] <GridCube> yeah, seems like the gnome devs went "oh yeah windows 8, lets do that"
[23:45] <dognose> so unlike Apple and more like Microsoft lol
[23:46] <dognose> I hope they can find a really intuitive desktop environment that pleases all crowds simultaneously