[01:30] <Terminal-V> Hello. Is there anyone here who is running the UFW firewall with IPv6 rules who could show me a screenshot of their '/etc/ufw/user6.rules' file so that I can get a better understanding?
[01:31] <Terminal-V> Or alternately copy and paste a rule from it here.
[01:36] <weexfce> Unit193: What is the right command for searching channels in IRC again? Is it, "/msg ison list help"?
[01:37] <Unit193> !alis
[01:38] <curryman> wondering if someone can help me, i have proxmox installed, wifi is working, internet is fine, but with routing, all VMs can access the internet, but vm1(windows) can ping vm1(linux), but vm1(linux) cannot ping vm2(windows)
[01:38] <curryman> https://pastebin.com/GT0UgWyP
[01:39] <curryman> PING 192.168.200.3 (192.168.200.3) 56(84) bytes of data.
[01:39] <curryman> From 192.168.200.1: icmp_seq=2 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 192.168.200.3)
[01:39] <curryman> this is the result when i ping vm1 from vm2
[01:40] <simpleton2> Unit193: thank you so much
[01:44] <leftyfb> curryman: maybe check the Windows firewall
[01:45] <leftyfb> curryman: also #windows
[01:49] <curryman> oh true, let me check, didn't thnk it would stop a ping
[02:04] <curryman> leftyfb, you were right, it was the firewall, thanks so much, never would have thought to check it, thought it was the routing
[02:31] <hyphenU> I am trying my hands at different distro's ,and have come to realize that some do not work with my wifi card by default? Is that just a drivers issue?
[02:32] <rbox> what does "not work" mean
[02:32] <rbox> it doesnt show up as a network device
[02:32] <rbox> you get errors in dmesg
[02:32] <rbox> you try to c onnect to an ap with it and it fails?
[02:41] <hyphenU> rbox: thank you for asking that. I mean that the wifi doesn't even show up as a device.
[02:41] <hyphenU> (No options) in Settings nor up right
[02:41] <rbox> and are there errors in dmesg? nothing in dmesg?
[02:41] <hyphenU> I did not check that, because I am a noobie, but I will if you share how to. :)
[02:41] <hyphenU> Is that error logs?
[02:42] <lotuspsychje> !dmesg
[02:42] <hyphenU> okay damn. I shoulda checked.
[02:43] <hyphenU> It was whilst using a LIVE USB, is that anything pertinent?
[02:47] <hyphenU> ^ Whomever this is - that is NOT YIPPEE.
[02:47] <Yippee> Hi.  I am using Jammy LTS and everything was fine, and I installed hwe controller in attempt to resolve issue related to a switch controller.
[02:48] <Yippee> After I installed hwe kernel, had some issues with nvidia-driver-535 but got that sorted, it'd didn't change my controller issue, but all seemed fine.
[02:48] <Yippee> Until I came back and tried to resume from suspend.  It never powers up the screen, and I have to hard reset.
[02:49] <Yippee> So I figured, okay well I don't really need this hwe kernel anyway, went back to 5.15, but low and behold, still won't wake from suspend.
[02:49] <Yippee> Any ideas?
[02:52] <Yippee> I removed and and autoremoved the 6.2 kernel stuff but I still see something in /boot from it, probably not related....
[02:53] <Yippee> And I just rearead what I wrote earlier, I mean I installed hwe kernel.
[03:03] <Yippee> I'll be back, gunna try a nother couple things and reboots and suspends that are likely to fail...  if you have any ideas please save them for my return cuz this is an issue i'dreally like to resolve, typically suspend multiple times a day
[03:46] <Yippee> Hello again.  I managed to resolve my suspend issue on standard kernel.  I now want to try hwe again now that I understand more.  But I've apperantly broke something, when I install linux-generic-hwe-22.04 it installs it and the header package, but doesn't put anything in /boot or do the initramfs-update or grub-update or anything, so I can't actually boot it.
[03:48] <rbox> thats a meta pacakge
[03:48] <rbox> not the actual kernel
[03:49] <Yippee> Okay, but installing that meta-package should install the hwe kernel tho, right?
[03:49] <EriC^^> Yippee: try reinstalling the package
[03:49] <EriC^^> 1sec
[03:50] <Yippee> I've removed and reinstalled and rebooted couple times....
[03:50] <EriC^^> try 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic-hwe-22.04'
[03:51] <EriC^^> can you share the output of that command? also "ls -l /boot"
[03:51] <Yippee> Ok just tried, cuz why not, still same result.
[03:51] <Yippee> Yes I can, just a moment.
[03:51] <Yakov> need to open GUI folder in ubuntu with cmd -> i have folder home/userName/Desktop -> need to call script or command or whatever to get to folder contains but in GUI representation (Window mode)
[03:52] <Yippee> https://paste.debian.net/plain/1291095
[03:53] <Yippee> Yakov: Try `xdg-open /home/$USERNAME` or whatever path you want
[03:53] <Yippee> Yakov: `xdg-open /home/$USERNAME/Desktop`
[03:55] <Yakov> or nautilus + path (22.04)
[03:55] <Yippee> well that would depend on the user having nautilus installed
[03:56] <Yippee> xdg-open will use whatever you have set as default
[03:56] <Yippee> If you want the user to select a file and pass it back to your script, use zenity
[03:56] <Yippee> If you want the script to keep going with your file manager open, put & at the end of the xdg-open command
[03:57] <Yakov> I would also make something like Ditto
[03:57] <Yakov> https://ditto-cp.sourceforge.io/
[04:04] <zcot> Yippee: what is $USERNAME ? but anyway: apt search linux-oem-22
[04:09] <Yippee> zcot/Yakov: my bad, I mean $USER
[04:10] <Yippee> (yakov originally said userName and that got me thinking wrong :))
[04:10] <Yippee> zcot: you want me to share the output from that?   it should be the same for everyone....
[04:11] <Yippee> https://paste.debian.net/plain/1291097
[04:14] <Yakov> Please advise Arnold Robbins book for bash / bash scripting.. Want to read some
[04:17] <zcot> Yippee: you can install that type of stuff. if you are dual booting, for example with mint, but it doesn't matter, then you need to propagate the info through the more important grub entries. so boot to those systems and update-grub, then you can boot the latest entries of the relevant system.
[04:18] <hyphenU> zcot: Why do we need to "update-grub" from within the systems?
[04:19] <zcot> hyphenU: pm me on the spotchat network and i'll tell you. :p
[04:22] <zcot> hyphenU: but the answer is that is the system is booting to grub 1, let's say, and it chains as a second or third entry to another grub system, then the grub 1 will be the important one initially, the entries within that config need to be up to date, they contain 2nd or 3rd entries that are defined elsewhere, but they need to have the relevant into that exists in those secondary or 3rd grub systems' configs.
[04:28] <Yippee> My only dual boot option is my old install of ubuntu 18.04 on a hard drive.  I installed 22.04 on a new SSD and don't boot the old OS anymore anyway.
[04:29] <hyphenU> Yippee: Can you install a dualboot on the ssd?
[04:29] <Yippee> Why would I?
[04:29] <Yippee> I mean sure I could, but I have no desire to.
[04:29] <hyphenU> zcot: thanks for taking time to share that lovely response.
[04:30] <Yippee> in my case i dont care about the old os on the old hard drive, i dont even mount that drive, could unplug it if I wanted.
[04:33] <zcot> whether any system boots or not, if the grub is relevant, then it will come into play. the bad thing is that if a "prevailing" grub can't boot it's own system in order to run the "update-grub" then that's a bit of a problem, where the other systems that might be chain-loaded will not get updated and you'll just always be booting the old boot entries. get into the bios/uefi and point to a different drive, -that's typically when you run into that issue, multiple
[04:33] <zcot> disks with more than one system installed.
[04:33] <Yippee> What I'm trying to solve is how to install the hwe kernel, cuz I broke something when I had issues with it the previous time I tried it, and as the first pastebin i shared shows, I have the package installed, but nothing in /boot to go with it.
[04:34] <zcot> Yippee: make sure the update the grub of course.
[04:34] <Yippee> zcot in my case it was all simple.  i unplugged the old drive, plugged in ssd, installed jammy, plugged in old hard drive, it still booted jammy, enabled os prober, it put bionic in my menu, it boots fine the last time i tried, but now I've setup the new system for long enough Idont need that anymore anyway, its irrelavant to my current issue.
[04:35] <Yippee> zcot: if i manually run grub-update it doesnt find anything new, cuz nothing is in /boot for it to find!
[04:36] <Yippee> but if you possibly think it could be related, i'll shutdown, unplug the old hard drive, and still nothing will appear in /boot for the 6.2 hwe kernel
[04:36] <Yippee> I'll even hot unplug it if you want, won't make any difference.
[04:46] <hyphenU> Yippee: I am a noobie, what is the benefit for updating your hwe kernel?
[04:47] <Yippee> hyphen, linux 6.1 adds support for additional nintendo clone controllers. i have such a controller.
[04:48] <hyphenU> cool
[04:48] <hyphenU> Does it work with emulators?
[04:48] <Yippee> Yes.  It's just a usb switch controller.
[04:48] <hyphenU> What are your favorite snes games? And have you tried using zsnes yet>
[04:56] <Yippee> Gunna try something, be back.  Still trying to resolve so gotta try some reboots.
[05:04] <Yippee> Ok I think I'm onto something here.  Just waiting for it to install correctly this time! I had to remove all the other linux packages with 6.2.0 and now it's doing things right, progress 70%, woohoo!
[05:14] <Yippee> Ok, was able to boot it, and no video problems this time.  However it still won't suspend with that kernel.  Weird.  I guess I'll try the oem 6.1 before I revert to standard.
[05:23] <Yippee> Same problem with 6.1, it won't suspend.  I guess I'll try 6.5 before giving up and going back to standard.  I hope this gets resolved by the time I'm forced to use a newer kernel version on 24.04.
[05:23] <Yippee> I mean int will suspend, it just won't wake from suspend.
[05:24] <hyphenU> What is the issue again? I may have mised it
[05:24] <hyphenU> I hear lots of issues surrounding waking from suspend.
[05:24] <Yippee> The issue is now back to my original problem, I've fixed everything I broke.   The original problem being, when I use hwe kernel, it won't resume from suspend.
[05:25] <Yippee> And I also tried it on 6.1 OEM kernel, same problem.
[05:25] <hyphenU> weird.
[05:25] <Yippee> About to try 6.5, set it to reboot when done installing so I'll just disappear, just patiently waiting now....
[05:30] <Yippee> Well Iĺl be a monkeyś uncle!  6.5 works right!
[05:30] <hyphenU> Did 6.5 work?
[05:30] <hyphenU> Ya!
[05:30] <hyphenU> Good JOB Yippee!!!
[05:32] <Yippee> I owe thanks to the person who suggested oem kernels, I had kinda forgotten about them, and at first discounted it cuz I only needed 6.1+ and dont necessarily need to live on the bleeding edge, figured hwe/6.2 would be safer.  But hey, since it works.
[05:35] <hyphenU> Yippee, what games are you planning to play with your controller?
[05:36] <hyphenU> HA he left that fast, so that he could go back to playing games!
[07:59] <Terminal-V> I'm trying to setup an IPv6 UFW firewall rule in Ubuntu 20.04 LTS but its not working. It works when I use IPv4, but not IPv6. This is probably because of '0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0003'. https://imageupload.io/ib/jsFNvLdWOMGPhXh_1693987030.png
[07:59] <Terminal-V> Does anyone know what's going on?
[08:13] <loswedseded> help me understand command architecture: I just executed sudo ifconfig lan1 down && sudo macchanger -m 11:22:33:44:55:66 lan1 && sudo ifconfig wlp2s0 and it returned: [ERROR] Could not change MAC: interface up or insufficient permissions: Cannot assign requested address. Interface up? lan was down at the time
[08:14] <loswedseded> however, if I execute command #2 separately and the #3, it works. why?
[08:56] <Jackneill_> hey. i have a wierd problem (ubuntu 23.04, cinnamon, nemo). that i have a folder with images. when i double click on an image to open it, the 1st one opens. on the other when when i right click on it, and open it form the set default open app window the correct image opens. (both with eog). any idea?
[08:59] <weedmic> why doulbe click ?ever??
[08:59] <weedmic> I use kde, so I've no idea what that would do in cinnamon.
[08:59] <Jackneill_> but only happens to images. if i have a folder with .mkv videos the correct file opens on double click
[09:00] <Jackneill_> weedmic, your comment did not add anything to the conversation
[09:00] <Jackneill_> :)
[09:08] <Jackneill_> the error only happens with eog. when the default image viewer is set to shotwell the correct image opens on double click.
[10:19] <weedmic> Jackneill_: i added some images, opened dolphin, if i click once - it opens on top.  if i click twice, it leave dolphin on top.  perhaps that is the designed action.
[10:19] <weedmic> i could not find where to set the activity for double click - i am pretty sure i know where it was, but since they deprecated cube, menues changed.
[10:21] <Jackneill_> weedmic, i meant the 1st one opens in the list, not the one i clicked on.
[10:22] <Jackneill_> but if i right click and go to choose app to open with, and leave it at eog, the correct one opens which is wierd.
[10:22] <weedmic> om - that does not sound useful at all
[10:22] <Jackneill_> well its a bug for sure
[11:45] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:10] <salapin_> I'm having trouble getting a standard user to access usb drives.
[12:10] <salapin_> You created a group called "usbflash" how do I make this group have read write and execute permissions to all drives that are mounted on /dev ?
[12:10] <salapin_> Thanks to all for the help.
[12:11] <weedmic> salapin_: fixed?
[12:12] <salapin_> weedmic, yes
[12:13] <weedmic> great
[12:13] <oerheks>  all drives that are mounted on /dev ?
[12:14] <weedmic> depends, you can mount them anywhere you want - if you do it manually, but... normally /dev is the common place sd... for sata md... for raid
[12:14] <Guest47> hello, how to uninstall an app installed by terminal?
[12:15] <oerheks> sudo apt remove --purge <appname>
[12:16] <salapin_> weedmic, My PC is shared with my brother, my brother has a standard account without administrator permissions. The only thing I want is that when I plug in a usb drive I can write read and execute on it without problems.
[12:17] <oerheks> It all depends what filesystem is on that usb drive.
[12:17] <weedmic> should be automatic - you can plug it in, check dmesg to see the usb path, then see if you can navigate to it - if you are not just notified to open it in dolphin
[12:18] <Guest47> oerheks why doesn't it appear in ubuntu software, app "Software" and package manager synaptic=?
[12:18] <salapin_> my brother only works with FAT and NTFS file systems
[12:18] <oerheks> Guest47, tell us first what app?
[12:18] <Guest47> seatools
[12:18] <weedmic> Guest47: pls paste the line you used to install it the first time.
[12:18] <Guest47> weedmic i installed it some days ago
[12:18] <Guest47> i don't need it anymore
[12:18] <oerheks> seatools is not in our repos. how did you install that?
[12:19] <leftyfb> Guest47: you'll need to contact Seagate for support with their software
[12:19] <weedmic> should still be there - do ctrl+r and type seat
[12:19] <Guest47> ok
[12:20] <oerheks> if it is this .run file, just remove it? https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=381465
[12:22] <salapin_> weedmic, can't you help me?
[12:22] <Guest47> oerheks ok i will just remove .run file
[12:23] <weedmic> i can try - what happens when you plug in the usb device - open dmesg should be last 6 lines or so
[12:23] <oerheks> it runs standalone, does not pull any packages, so you'll be fine
[12:23] <Guest47> oerheks but it doesn't exist anymore
[12:24] <weedmic> do .run files make it to muon/synaptic?  if not, that may be why it did not list.
[12:24] <weedmic> i think I've only used a .run file once and had to find out how to do it.
[12:25] <oerheks> weedmic, nope, it is a manual download, not registered with apt
[12:25] <Guest47> nothing in synaptic
[12:25] <oerheks> it is somwhere in your /home/  folder, downloads likely
[12:25] <oerheks> but it is gone, you say
[12:26] <Guest47> app still opens
[12:26] <Guest47> oerheks no it isn't anywhere, in trash
[12:28] <oerheks> which *.run
[12:28] <weedmic> salapin_: what did dmesg show?
[12:28] <oerheks> it might give a clue
[12:28] <weedmic> with snap you can do snap list
[12:28] <weedmic> maybe .run has something?
[12:28] <oerheks> no.
[12:28] <weedmic> like i said only use .run once - can't even remembe what it was
[12:29] <oerheks> it is a container, like snap/appimage
[12:29] <weedmic> i love appimage - didn't seem to catch on though - i use musescore to write music for orchestra
[12:30] <leftyfb> it's possible the .run file was an install binary/script
[12:30] <weedmic> salapin left - ok
[12:31] <Guest47> https://www.seagate.com/content/dam/seagate/migrated-assets/www-content/support-content/downloads/seatools/_shared/downloads/SeaToolsLinuxX64Installer.zip
[12:31] <Guest47> i took from there
[12:32] <oerheks> leftyfb, nope, see that mint post, it runs on its own
[12:33] <Guest47> i click ok "show details" right click on icon, it says "No details for this app"
[12:36] <weedmic> Guest47: I believe oerheks is trying to explain that it is NOT ever installed, it runs, then you close it and it is gone.  if you delete the .run file it is simply can't be started again.  is that right oerheks?
[12:36] <Guest47> i don't find its .run file
[12:38] <oerheks> open filemanager; type " .run "
[12:39] <Guest47> i did it "No results
[12:39] <Guest47> "
[12:40] <weedmic> open a terminal, do "sudo updatedb", then in about 3 secs when the prompt returns, do "locate run" and see if any results end in .run and you'll know the entire path.  delete the offending file.
[12:41] <weedmic> if it doesn't list, it is already gone.
[12:42] <Guest47> weedmic "command not found"
[12:44] <oerheks> ahhh,  that seagate run file installs itself in /opt/SeaTools5.. not sure what to do, running the installer again might give the option to remove?
[12:44] <oerheks> i expected it to run stand alone.
[12:44] <weedmic> ty for helping oerheks - i again apologise for not know much about .run
[12:45] <Guest47> oerheks i installed it by terminal, i don't really remember all syntaxes
[12:45] <weedmic> Guest47: i don't know if "locate" is worth installing or not in your case.  perhaps try "which seatools" and see if it gives a path?
[12:46] <ioria> Guest47, history | grep -i sea
[12:46] <weedmic> nice
[12:46] <weedmic> very very nice
[12:46] <oerheks> download again, sudo ./SeaToolsLinuxX64Installer.run
[12:47] <Guest47> 30  sudo chmod +x ./SeaToolsLinuxX64Installer.run
[12:48] <Guest47> nothing happens
[12:50] <Guest47> ok
[12:51] <Guest47> ok i wrote this: sudo ./SeaToolsLinuxX64Installer.run
[12:51] <Guest47> it opened installer and for first thing it ask me if i wanna uninstall, i unistalled, after it starts normally as installer and i aborted installation
[12:52] <oerheks> i would hit 'yes', uninstall
[13:19] <Guest47> oerheks thanks it also disappears icon from list of all apps
[13:19] <oerheks> !yay
[13:21] <leftyfb> oerheks: told you it was an installer ;)
[13:22] <oerheks> leftyfb, yes you did, last .run i got were just running stand alone
[13:22] <oerheks> confusing, and the seagate page did not give a clue.
[13:22] <Cache> hello
[13:23] <oerheks> :-)
[13:23] <Guest4020> ah shit
[13:23] <Guest4020> i am new to this
[13:23] <Guest4020> identify means what
[13:23] <leftyfb> !libera | Guest4020
[13:24] <Guest4020> ooh
[14:39] <NetoriusNick> sorry to bother anyone but I am hitting my head against an issue I cant seem to resolve and I feel like its something simple. I have a disk with a ghost (shows under lsblk, but can not mount or remove) raid1 that has a ghost LVM "partition" any time I try to do anything with the disk I get that the device or resource is busy but the device is unmounted. mdadm sees md/1 and md127 which both don't exist when I do a detail scan. I have
[14:39] <NetoriusNick> tried using parted and dd to make a new partition (which it di but the MD1 is still there, and dd wrote 0s for over 5tb to the /dev/sd# but the md1 is still there)
[14:39] <leftyfb> NetoriusNick: reboot, then re-attempt
[14:40] <NetoriusNick> think I have tried that but will do that again now
[14:46] <NetoriusNick> Okay that looks to have worked why did it work this time and not last time?
[16:58] <ELFrederich> what is Jammy based on?... debian 10, 11, 12?
[16:59] <leftyfb> ELFrederich: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging
[16:59] <oerheks> releasedate 04-2022 .. so i guess not bookworm
[17:02] <leftyfb> ELFrederich: to answer your question, It's loosely based on Debian Sid
[17:23] <ioria> ELFrederich, cat /etc/debian_version
[18:25] <Jerry101> I need competant help
[18:26] <lotuspsychje> !ask | Jerry101
[18:32] <Jerry101> leftyfb or oerheks , I keep getting errors on boot - on boot - "report error" , thanks.
[18:32] <Jerry101> no explanation
[18:32] <leftyfb> Jerry101: you're going to need to provide way more info than that. Preferably with a screenshot or pastebin
[18:33] <Jerry101> what command paste bin do you need
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> Jerry101: you been asking this question earlier too, can you also mention the steps already tryed with the volunteers?
[18:34] <leftyfb> !paste | Jerry101
[18:35] <Jerry101> leftyfb what command  do i volunteer
[18:35] <leftyfb> Jerry101: please take a screenshot/picture of the error and post it to imgur.com
[18:35] <Jerry101> ok ill reboot. thanks
[18:36] <oerheks> if you see a crash report, send it.
[18:36] <oerheks> ...
[18:36] <oerheks> xdg-open https://errors.ubuntu.com/user/`sudo cat /var/lib/whoopsie/whoopsie-id`
[18:38] <leftyfb> oerheks: Jerry101 has quit (Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.)
[18:38] <oerheks> yes, anywhere now.
[18:50] <Jerry101> leftyfb - https://imgur.com/a/RsV3UEV
[18:51] <oerheks> if you see a crash report, send it.
[18:51] <Jerry101> ok
[18:52] <Jerry101> whats the paste bin link
[18:52] <Jerry101> !paste
[18:53] <Jerry101> https://dpaste.com/GJRVFATXG
[18:55] <Jerry101> it keeps pointing to compiz
[18:56] <Jerry101> Device-1 NVIDIA TU117 [GeForce GTX 1650] driver nvidia v 535.86.05
[18:58] <Jerry101> Display x11 server X.Org v 1.21.1.4 driver X loaded nvidia
[18:59] <Jerry101> my guess is, everyone is stumped
[18:59] <Jerry101> me 2
[19:00] <Jerry101> maybe i have stuff oc ?
[19:00] <Jerry101>   Info 8-core model Intel Core i7-9700 bits 64 type MCP cache L2 2 MiB
[19:00] <Jerry101>   Speed (MHz) avg 2585 min/max 800/4700 cores 1 3000 2 3000 3 3402 4 1427 5 812 6 3000 7 3042
[19:00] <Jerry101>     8 3000
[19:02] <Jerry101>  Gigabyte model B365M DS3H WIF
[19:02] <Jerry101> no bus control
[19:03] <Jerry101> its a 65 watt chip, so not that much current
[19:03] <Jerry101> mate
[19:05] <Jerry101> ok - thanks for the help
[19:45] <loswedseded> sudo ifconfig wlp2s0 down && sudo macchanger -m 11:22:33:44:55:66 wlp2s0 && sudo ifconfig wlp2s0 up < this command returns [ERROR] Could not change MAC: interface up or insufficient permissions: Cannot assign requested address but if I choose a random IP, it works. This has never happened before. How come?
[19:46] <sarnold> are there any messages in dmesg?
[19:47] <daniel3> I think I have read something about that the first octet needs to be even for unicast addresses?
[19:48] <daniel3> Not sure why changing the IP address would make it work, though
[19:52] <ioria> sudo macchanger -A 11:22:33:44:55:66 wlp2s0
[19:53] <loswedseded> dmesg shows wlp2s0: authenticate with 95:38:c2:g8:79:9c, but why? I've never used this mac
[20:10] <loswedseded> strange
[20:11] <loswedseded> dmesg shows: [  152.804993] r8169 0000:03:00.1 enp3s0f1: Link is Down
[20:11] <loswedseded> [  156.041661] wlp2s0: authenticate with 95:38:c2:g8:79:9c
[20:11] <loswedseded> why?
[20:11] <loswedseded> have I used that IP before not knowing it?
[20:11] <JanC> that's not an "IP"
[20:12] <loswedseded> neither my real IP, correct?
[20:13] <JanC> I have no idea what you mean by "IP", but nothing in there is about anything called "IP" that I know of...
[20:14] <Guest47> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hpdEgS2sl5GQitYTOY0q3qKJ3GfnVj9t/view?usp=sharing
[20:14] <oerheks> !danger
[20:14] <Guest47> hi, what means "Visita file"? Translation is simply "visit file"
[20:14] <dTal> what command?
[20:15] <oerheks> carefull with unregistered users and a download url
[20:15] <JanC> Guest47: you probably better ask in an Italian language channel...
[20:16] <loswedseded> sorry
[20:16] <JanC> (or at the very least give some more context)
[20:16] <Guest47> JanC i haven't answers often there
[20:17] <loswedseded> mac address
[20:17] <Guest47> JanC it appears in the "Open file" window
[20:18] <Guest47> after i right-click on a file in the "open file" window. "Visita file" just means "visit file"
[20:18] <JanC> what "open file" window?
[20:18] <Guest47> simple translation
[20:20] <Guest47> JanC just like this https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oNv_vaGdiU36PVYwUB_8zeZun_qKHuzk/view?usp=sharing
[20:22] <Guest47> for example, i just right-cliked on a file because i supposed that "visit file" would have opened the folder where the file is in
[20:22] <Guest47> but i don't know what it have done, even because now the same command is unselectable
[20:23] <JanC> doesn't it just mean "Open File"?
[20:24] <JanC> "Apri con gestore file" = "Open in file manager"
[20:25] <Guest47> JanC no it doesn't, because it didn't open it with file manager
[20:25] <Guest47> and it didn't just open the file
[20:25] <Guest47> i don't know that it has done
[20:25] <JanC> no idea then, maybe it makes more sense if we know what application this is...?
[20:26] <oerheks> no info what file you downloaded,..
[20:26] <oerheks> lolz
[20:26] <Guest47> just chromiun while i'm adding a pictures of a thing i wanna sell on marketplace
[20:27] <JanC> then maybe someone else with Chromium can see what it is...
[20:28] <JanC> or you can run Chromium (or the whole OS) in English, of course  :)
[20:28] <JanC> or soem other language you understand
[20:30] <Guest47> it just means "Visit file"
[20:31] <Guest47> however now that command appears just when "Open file" windows is on "recent"
[20:32] <Guest47> and it shows the specific folder of the file, but i'm in doubt because few minutes ago when "Visit file" appears after right-click on file, i'm on the specific folder of that file and NOT in "recent" folder
[20:32] <JanC> oh, it opens that file in context
[20:33] <oerheks> visit Downloads?
[20:33] <JanC> Guest47: it's also there when you search
[20:35] <Guest47> oerheks no, it just redirect in the specific folder of the file i right-clicked and pushed that command "visit file"
[20:35] <JanC> loswedseded: is 95:38:c2:g8:79:9c the MAC address of your WiFi access point?
[20:36] <Guest47> JanC yes, maybe when I clicked it there was the search bar opened
[20:36] <Guest47> JanC oerheks thanks both
[20:56] <loswedseded> JanC, it could well be the WAP, how do I know for sure?
[20:57] <loswedseded> this would mean I have to free access for the new mac in the wap, correct?
[21:01] <loswedseded> what's the difference between ifconfig and macchanger?
[21:01] <loswedseded> forget it
[21:01] <JanC> if you don't know what they do, why are you running them?
[21:03] <sarnold> they can both be replaced with the 'ip' command from the iproute2 package
[21:33] <HackerII> doh
[21:33] <HackerII> anyway, I guess no     one  can help me
[21:33] <jhutchins> loswedseded: Try each step of the command by itself instead of stacking them.  You might figure out why it's failing.
[21:34] <jhutchins> HackerII: I don't see a question from you.
[21:34] <HackerII> here it comes
[21:34] <oerheks> why 'hacker' ?
[21:34] <HackerII> I have asked multiple times -  i get errors when i boot
[21:34] <oerheks> noob
[21:34] <HackerII> noob ?
[21:35] <oerheks> !hacker
[21:35] <HackerII> please explain
[21:36] <HackerII> I hack ham radios, i expand them beyond what they normally do.
[21:36] <HackerII> any questions ??
[21:36] <oerheks> no.
[21:36] <HackerII> thanks
[21:36] <jeremy31> Illegal in most places
[21:36] <oerheks> also not registered with #freenode, why should we care?
[21:36] <sarnold> I say you, freenode is dead
[21:37] <oerheks> yes
[21:37] <oerheks> lolz
[21:37] <HackerII> I also repair ham, police and commercial radios.
[21:37] <HackerII> oerheks - help a fella out.
[21:38] <oerheks> state your real problem, with a pastebin,not imgur
[21:38] <HackerII> I never treated customers like morons - please dont treat me the same.
[21:38] <jhutchins> HackerII: If you get messages at boot, chances are they're just the normal system status mesages.  Do the errors appear to be related to any problems you're having?
[21:38] <HackerII> I have errors on boot - no explanation given.
[21:38] <AlexC> provide logs, screenshots, what conditions, what did you do, etc
[21:39] <AlexC> otherwise you will never receive help
[21:39] <HackerII> no explanation given
[21:39] <HackerII> none
[21:39] <AlexC> we can't help than
[21:39] <jhutchins> HackerII: WHAT errors?
[21:39] <oerheks> sorry; explain: there are serious things going on worldwide, just take a breathe an try to explain what you see
[21:40] <HackerII> it just says "report error" no explanation
[21:40] <oerheks> dpaste is sage
[21:40] <jhutchins> oerheks: Link?
[21:40] <sarnold> HackerII: hit the 'report error' button and be done with it
[21:40] <oerheks> afe*
[21:40] <HackerII> i did 1k times
[21:40] <oerheks> press to send report
[21:41] <HackerII> duh
[21:41] <AlexC> does the system works at all?
[21:41] <oerheks> then we all can readl;    xdg-open https://errors.ubuntu.com/user/`sudo cat /var/lib/whoopsie/whoopsie-id`
[21:41] <AlexC> booted into the DE?
[21:41] <sarnold> yay oerheks with the magic url ;)
[21:41] <HackerII> looks
[21:41] <AlexC> looks what
[21:42] <HackerII> hecks LOL
[21:42] <HackerII> funny
[21:42] <AlexC> mkay
[21:43] <HackerII> fix my sht you wanna beez  lol
[21:44] <oerheks> if you use kali, good luck 😂
[21:44] <HackerII> dont make me convert 2 suse and make gun of you over fakebook
[21:44] <jeremy31> HackerII: behave, we are volunteers here
[21:44] <oerheks> hahaha
[21:44] <AlexC> you can fix ur shit what you clearly don't understand how to, so go back to windows
[21:44] <AlexC> ez
[21:44] <oerheks> stupid script kiddos
[21:44] <AlexC> nah, just trolls
[21:45] <AlexC> ignore.
[21:45] <oerheks> +1
[21:45] <HackerII> I remember over 2k people here getting help - now - all they do is eat pizza when you ask.
[21:45] <jhutchins> !ops HackerII seems to be trolling for a boot.
[21:45] <jhutchins> Stupid bot.
[21:45] <AlexC> we're still giving help for free.
[21:46] <HackerII> !ubotu ban help
[21:46] <AlexC> but you clearly did not gave us enough information to be able to help
[21:46] <AlexC> and you have not payed for premium either
[21:46] <AlexC> :P
[21:46] <HackerII> south africa is under war - that being said - ubuntu is prolly done.
[21:47] <AlexC> good.
[21:47] <AlexC> have a good one.
[21:47] <HackerII> ubuntu has back doors
[21:48] <HackerII> microshaft taught them
[21:48] <plastikman> Why are you trollin in here?
[21:48] <HackerII> i experienced it
[21:49] <HackerII> several times
[21:49] <AlexC> so what
[21:49] <AlexC> probably everybody else here did
[21:49] <HackerII> AlexC:  loves back doors
[21:49] <AlexC> and? is that your problem?
[21:50] <HackerII> no its yours, relax
[21:50] <AlexC> thx
[21:50] <AlexC> :P
[21:50] <plastikman> lol gotem
[21:50] <AlexC> 👍
[21:50] <genii> Stay civil and on topic please, people
[21:50] <AlexC> tried..
[21:55] <oerheks> i want to know the shortcut to latest snaps updated
[21:55] <oerheks> to bookmark *
[21:58] <oerheks> i offer a free coffee meet &great in NL
[21:58] <oerheks> ex trip plane/bus
[21:58] <oerheks> oke, this is offtopic
[22:08] <Tyler1240> Hello I’m unsure of how this works but I need help from somebody more knowledgable in Linux as I need to get this computer back to somebody. The issue, initially, was that I needed to reinstall Ubuntu onto this computer because it was having a slow boot. It was version 20.04.4 and thats what I’m trying to install, with a USB drive. Instead of
[22:08] <Tyler1240> reinstalling I tried fixing the issue by playing around with files, discovered the file system was elaborately screwed… and at this point, the only thing that I can see upon booting is a GNU Grub terminal version 2.04… but I’m unable to type anything. It also has in the middle of the screen “DELL” logo which seems very unusual to see
[22:08] <Tyler1240> both. I have no idea where to go from here because I can’t even access any menus or type commands.
[22:10] <`oerheks> im back
[22:11] <`oerheks> ive got the hook-up
[22:11] <`oerheks> LOL
[22:11] <Tyler1240> Hi oarheks
[22:12] <HackerII> what
[22:12] <Tyler1240> is linux help available here?
[22:12] <HackerII> no- be on your way
[22:12] <HackerII> they cant even help me with a simple eror
[22:12] <Tyler1240> oh, seriously
[22:12] <HackerII> pizza goblers
[22:13] <Tyler1240> ive just wasted my time
[22:13] <HackerII> enjoy
[22:13] <Tyler1240> LOL thanks anyway
[22:13] <jeremy31> Tyler1240: stick around
[22:13] <HackerII> ubuntu has been taken over by chyna
[22:13] <HackerII> trump was right
[22:13] <jeremy31> genii: still around?
[22:13] <Tyler1240> alright ill stick around jeremy
[22:14] <HackerII> genii is a troll - but - I remember when genii wasnt
[22:14] <jeremy31> Tyler1240: there is also support at ubuntuforums.org and askubuntu.com
[22:14] <genii> Maybe I still am
[22:14] <jeremy31> Thanks
[22:15] <Tyler1240> Thanks jeremy i took that guy for his word but it became clear he was a troll
[22:16] <jeremy31> Tyler1240: is the keyboard external?
[22:16] <jeremy31> Bluetooth?
[22:17] <Tyler1240> Yes. Usb. And I just thought of this as well, i have it plugged into one monitor where i have windows running at the same time should I try shutting that off?
[22:17] <genii> Trying to get rid of them today is likely a whack a mole game but if they return I guess see if I'm still around
[22:18] <jeremy31> Tyler1240: I am trying to think of why you can't type at grub terminal, anything could help
[22:19] <Tyler1240> No im actually an idiot because the keyboard isnt even plugged into the tower
[22:20] <jeremy31> Tyler1240: I like simple fixes
[22:21] <Tyler1240> jeremy31 I can type now SMH. And thank you so much for your helpz obviously at this point the OS is still screwed… uh would you know how I can get into BIOS so i can boot of my USB?
[22:23] <jeremy31> Tyler1240: that depends on the computer, maybe del or F1 at boot
[22:25] <Tyler1240> jeremy31 you are a godsend, f12 did the trick. YOURE THE BEST
[22:25] <yellowbird> ^ this is actually xmetal
[22:25] <yellowbird> thank xmetal
[22:25] <yellowbird> ;)
[22:27] <Tyler1240> Thanks xmetal ;)
[22:27] <yellowbird> ^ good job ;)
[22:28] <`oerheks> I AM the man
[22:29] <`oerheks> hey, lotus, why do you quit jobs in mid air ?
[22:29] <`oerheks> you did me that way the other day
[22:29] <Tyler1240> Somebody call genii lol
[22:30] <`oerheks> genII was great 15 yrs ago, genII turned hit-man.
[22:30] <`oerheks> boot me genII
[22:30] <oerheks> !ops
[22:31] <Tyler1240> 15 years ago, i suppose you have some history?
[22:31] <Tyler1240> Alright thanks jeremy! peace out!
[22:35] <yellowbird> Thanks to this chat, for indulging my paranoia.
[22:39] <yellowbird> On a side note -- I have heard from reputable sources, that using older computer hardware may provide additional support and protections against modern hacking regimens. Is this true?
[22:40] <yellowbird> Like for example, priot to Hyperthreading. And or CPU's that do not include it - so as to minimize potential Spectre / Meltdown exploits.
[22:40] <yellowbird> prior to*
[22:40] <yellowbird> I know Linux is vulnerable to such exploits.
[22:44] <mybalzitch> dunno where to discuss this, probably nowhere. Anyone have issues with cpu freq control on 22.04 when running 6.3.13 on an epyc with amd_pstate=passive ?
[22:50] <loswedseded> Is ip link set eth0 up the same as ifconfig eth0 up?
[23:04] <loswedseded> when did you guys stopped using ifconfig? I now realize it's been deprecated
[23:17] <el> that change was yeeeeeeears ago im pretty sure
[23:28] <sarnold> loswedseded: I switched to ip somewhere around 2003 or so, I wanted to have multiple IP addresses on one interface without using interface aliases..
[23:35] <loswedseded> woohoo, im so disconnected
[23:35] <loswedseded> ip is 20 years old??
[23:36] <loswedseded> om not s clever man
[23:37] <el> idk if they were aliased for a time or not
[23:44] <sarnold> loswedseded: ifconfig was deprecated and replaced with iproute2 somewhere around 2000, I was stubborn for a while :)
[23:55] <loswedseded> if any of you knows why some random mac addresses return '[ERROR] Could not change MAC: interface up or insufficient permissions: Cannot assign requested address, reason unknown' and others work flawlessly (just changing a digit), let me know why macchanger reacts like this
[23:57] <jeremy31> loswedseded: might need sudo or the driver doesn't allow MAC change
[23:57] <loswedseded> it's sudoed
[23:58] <jeremy31> loswedseded: did you set interface down?