[00:00] <loswedseded> yes. apparently the 1st byte must be an even number?
[02:49] <NGD> hi
[03:00] <rjwiii> NGD: Hello ... Welcome to #ub^%%$#@!@#NO CARRIER
[03:02] <NGD> and what is suposed to be done here?
[03:02] <EriC^^> !topic
[03:03] <EriC^^> it's the ubuntu support channel NGD
[03:04] <NGD> thank you
[03:04] <EriC^^> you're welcome
[03:08] <rjwiii> NGD: DO NOT PM PEOPLE WITH OUT ASKING FIRST!!!!!!
[03:08] <lotuspsychje> no need to shout rjwiii you can inform users calm too
[03:09] <rjwiii> lotuspsychje: sorry ... it's pet peeve of mine ... irks me to no end ...
[03:10] <lotuspsychje> !pm
[03:10] <lotuspsychje> for next time ; )
[03:58] <Yakov> how to get my terminal commands log?
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> Yakov: history
[04:02] <Bashing-om> Yakov: ^^ ' history | tail -n 15 ' << the last 15 commands are found by running this in terminal.
[06:12] <cluelessperson_> I need help
[06:13] <cluelessperson_> it appears that snapd is connecting to my smart card / NFC reader and preventing my smart cards from working
[06:13] <cluelessperson_> Process '/usr/lib/snapd/snap-device-helper bind snap_cups_ippeveprinter /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-7
[06:49] <cluelessperson_> I'm stuck
[07:11] <nteodosio> cluelessperson_, did it ever work before in your system?
[07:12] <cluelessperson_> nteodosio, yes
[07:12] <nteodosio> Is pcscd running?
[07:12] <cluelessperson_> I did systemctl disable pcscd.socket  and it works now
[07:12] <cluelessperson_> pcscd.service still on
[07:13] <jackneill__> hey. after a suspend my touchpad just doesnt react the same way, i have to click it barely recognizes taps, nd moves slower. restarting the psmouse kernel driver fixes it. what can i do to fix this? (thinkpad p1gen3)
[07:13] <nteodosio> Great that you found the solution, cluelessperson_. You may then want to file a bug against pcscd.
[07:14] <nteodosio> Can't actually tell if it's a bug there, but it's a start.
[07:17] <magga> so my bluetooth sometimes crashes. it happens rarely, but when it does i cant turn it on again. from the Settings UI panel. anyway I can get it to restart without booting the machine?
[07:17] <magga> must say it always works again after booting
[07:23] <weedmic> cluelessperson_: if your smart card requires you to install a "security module", there is only one browser that allows it.  firefox and NOT the snap version.  so you have to remove the snap version and install the real firefox with apt.  you can cnofirm the snap versions you have with "snap lsit"
[07:24] <weedmic> i have read more now - i see it worked previously.  was besides pcscd running, was there a script you had to run that loaded the certificates?
[07:24] <weedmic> nvm - it is working now
[09:28] <nikolam> Can I have zfs per-dataset encryption keys on the folder of the same ZFS pool as encrypted zfs datasets, and still have them loding keys automatically on boot and mounting encrypted zfs datasets on boot?
[09:29] <nikolam> I moved keys from (boot) FS to the folder on same ZFS pool where encrypted datasets reside and they did not get mounted on boot.
[10:10] <Yakov> is it possible to get text from terminal to clipper(buffer)
[10:18] <elias_a> Yakov: Just paint the text with mouse and past with middle mouse button.
[10:30] <weedmic> If you are using kde, you can click on the scissors by the clock and get a list of previous copies.  Yakov
[10:32] <Yakov> I need for my app, mouse and icons is not an option
[11:07] <Yakov> if I copy to my ubuntu terminal getting something like this ^[[200~ ~/Qt/Tools/QtCreator/bin/qtcreator /home/supernova/App/CMakeLists.txt why?
[11:08] <ravage> Yakov: https://superuser.com/questions/1532688/pasting-required-text-into-terminal-emulator-results-in-200required-text
[11:08] <ravage> https://cirw.in/blog/bracketed-paste
[11:12] <Yakov> ty
[11:12] <Yakov> how to save/store/browse my mozilla search/browse history?
[11:13] <ravage> i can google that for you too
[11:13] <ravage> did you try to do that yourself?
[11:30] <craigbass76> Is there a way to get a newer evolution client? 3.48 would be great. I don't see it anywhere as I'm hunting around the net yet.
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> !backports | craigbass76 maybe
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> !info evolution
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> !info evolution mantic
[11:31] <ravage> and there seems to be a flatpak
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> mantic got a higher version too craigbass76
[11:35] <craigbass76> Which deb repos is Ubuntu using, testing? I see I can grab a 3.49 deb package: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/evolution  Loks like the same version for testing and unstable
[12:33] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:54] <Yakov> can you guys please guide me how to make executable and playable from favorites tab sh script?
[12:57] <pavlos> right click, properties, make it exec
[12:58] <leftyfb> Yakov: define "favorites tab"
[12:58] <Yakov> https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.networkworld.com%2Farticle%2F3616568%2Fmanipulating-the-ubuntu-dock.html&psig=AOvVaw2THMdzoMwlWbyL-NNXV2AC&ust=1694177907192000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBAQjRxqFwoTCICyvNTGmIEDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE
[12:59] <leftyfb> Yakov: "favorites tab" in what application? Got a screenshot?
[12:59] <Yakov> my app :)
[13:00] <Yakov> never mind, its just shell script
[13:00] <Yakov> need to open it with favorites tab
[13:00] <Yakov> from*
[13:00] <leftyfb> Yakov: take a screenshot of the favorites tab
[13:00] <Yakov> for what ? :)
[13:00] <Yakov> its pretty standard
[13:01] <leftyfb> Yakov: standard in what application?
[13:01] <leftyfb> your file manager? Your browser? Your DE? Your bespoke application that has something titled "Favorites"?
[13:01] <Yakov> in Ubuntu OS
[13:04] <leftyfb> Yakov: if you're referring to the tab on the left side of the default file manager in a stock Ubuntu install called nautilus, you don't put applications there. Those are for locations to navigate
[13:05] <leftyfb> Yakov: if you're referring to the dock with icons for applications, then you need to make a .desktop file to execute your script and drop the .desk file to your dock
[13:05] <Yakov> its option two, leftyfg
[13:06] <Yakov> any proper guide for variant two?
[13:06] <leftyfb> Yakov: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/03/add-app-shortcut-desktop-ubuntu
[13:07] <pavlos> Yakov: example created yakon.sh in ~/Desktop, made it exec https://imgur.com/a/OolWBqo
[13:09] <Yakov> pavlos, correct, but I need to open it with mouse at least
[13:09] <Yakov> and best to be able to put it to favorites
[13:10] <leftyfb> Yakov: make a desktop file and drag it to your "dock"
[13:12] <Yakov> what I'm I doing wrong?
[13:12] <Yakov> https://justpaste.it/b3065 | how to name the file?
[13:15] <pavlos> the name of the file is script.sh in the current dir ... edit the line EXEC to point to your file
[13:15] <Yakov> yes, script I want to execute is script.sh
[13:16] <Yakov> not sure what you mean, can you share full paste for me please
[13:16] <pavlos> is it in the current dir, maybe you should fix the line as /home/yakov/script.sh (absolute path)
[13:17] <Yakov> same dir, but name for desktop file is untitled
[13:17] <Yakov> maybe  I need to rename desktop file itself?
[13:19] <leftyfb> Yakov: put the full path
[13:19] <Yakov> I just did
[13:19] <leftyfb> of your script
[13:19] <Yakov> icon of txt file, not effect
[13:20] <leftyfb> and why do you have ;$SHELL at the end? Remove that
[13:21] <Yakov> https://justpaste.it/b3065
[13:22] <leftyfb> Yakov: sudo chmod +x /home/supernova/Desktop/script.sh
[13:22] <Yakov> done before
[13:22] <weedmic> ./pathtoscript/script.sh (after you do chmod +x)(once)
[13:22] <Yakov> no change, maybe need rename file itself?
[13:23] <leftyfb> Yakov: the desktop file needs to be named whateveryoulike.desktop
[13:24] <Yakov> https://imgur.com/a/zwZHdZT
[13:24] <leftyfb> Yakov: also, if this is a bash shell script, you need to add this to the top of your script    #!/bin/bash
[13:24] <leftyfb> Yakov: "Untitled Document 1" looks nothing like   somefilenameyouchoose.desktop
[13:27] <Yakov> https://imgur.com/a/zwZHdZT
[13:27] <pavlos> https://imgur.com/a/zVz5wNV
[13:27] <leftyfb> Yakov: the error message tells you exactly how to resolve the error message
[13:28] <pavlos> created clickme.desktop, see the contents, created yakov, see contents ... I click on clickme it pops a terminal and executes the script yakov
[13:29] <Yakov> pavlos, saw that, but how to proceed with my case? leftyfb I tried your variant too, no effefct
[13:29] <Yakov> https://imgur.com/a/OdP5BSY
[13:30] <pavlos> it tells you, right click, allow exec
[13:32] <Yakov> https://imgur.com/a/RZ6ZzHq
[13:33] <pavlos> the exec line (6) is wrong, follow what I wrote earlier.
[13:33] <pavlos> you want to run a shell script IN A terminal so you need gnome-terminal -e "bash .........."
[13:36] <Yakov> Exec=gnome-terminal -e "bash -c '/home/supernova/Desktop/script;$SHELL' " like this?
[13:37] <pavlos> do you have Qt/ in your home dir? you want to run qtcreator, pass a file location and put it in the background . Why?
[13:38] <pavlos> that is the correct Exec line
[13:38] <Yakov> qt in home dir
[13:39] <Yakov> because if you shut terminal it closes qt creator
[13:39] <Yakov> just changed my script to just 'ls' same
[13:43] <Yakov> so it must be permissions issue
[13:44] <llorllale> Hi guys - is there any way to add a custom path to the Open File dialog, similar to "Home", "Desktop", "Documents", etc.?
[13:44] <llorllale> It'd be nice to have that shortcut available
[13:44] <nteodosio> llorllale, yes, add it to $HOME/.config/gtk-3.0/bookmarks
[13:49] <Yakov> https://imgur.com/a/vkY7bHL now getting this
[13:49] <llorllale> nteodosio: thanks!
[13:50] <nteodosio> Glad to help!
[13:50] <pavlos> llorllale: https://imgur.com/a/bWHqC37
[13:56] <Yakov> struggling for long time :)
[13:59] <pavlos> Yakov: it tells you, click click on the script.desktop and allow launching
[14:00] <Yakov> I dont have it here
[14:01] <pavlos> https://imgur.com/a/51OLUIm
[14:02] <pavlos> after Move to Trash
[14:02] <Yakov> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1220781/i-do-not-see-the-allow-launch-option-in-ubuntu-19-10
[14:03] <Yakov> seems like I have no moves
[14:05] <pavlos> the Exec line has something wrong. if there is no Exec line, you will not get Allow launching
[14:11] <pavlos> I created clickme.desktop, see contents, I gave the name lefty, I right click enable launch, it works. https://imgur.com/a/L55wRml
[14:26] <Yakov> internet gone for a while
[14:26] <Yakov> pavlos, how to ammend my .desktop file?
[14:27] <pavlos> it's a text file, you edit it
[14:27] <Yakov> yes
[14:27] <Yakov> how? :)
[14:30] <pavlos> you know how to use editors, right? (vi, nano, emacs)
[14:31] <Yakov> I use sublime
[14:31] <Yakov> I mean what to delete?
[14:31] <pavlos> show the contests of the .desktop file
[14:31] <Yakov> Exec=gnome-terminal -e "bash -c '/home/supernova/Desktop/yakov;$SHELL' " I suppose problem is here?
[14:32] <Yakov> https://justpaste.it/3qs04
[14:33] <pavlos> and there is a yakov script in Desktop/?
[14:33] <Yakov> yes
[14:33] <Yakov> I did full path you showed on your screenshot, same issues
[14:34] <pavlos> on your Desktop, you have a file called Click-Script ... right click enable launch
[14:34] <Yakov>  cat yakov | #!/usr/bin/bash | echo done
[14:35] <Yakov> I dont have Click-Script
[14:35] <Yakov> have clickme.desktop
[14:37] <pavlos> but the name you gave it via Name=Click-Script ... when you click on clickme.desktop it will change its name to Click-Script if it launches
[14:39] <Yakov> it gives error when i click .desktop file
[14:40] <pavlos> and the error (red x) says to right click and enable launch
[14:43] <pavlos> my notes ... https://termbin.com/d6ugc
[14:44] <Yakov> yes, but there is not enable launch
[14:44] <pavlos> show me, ls -l Desktop (there should be 2 files)
[14:47] <Yakov> 2 files? I have a lot
[14:48] <pavlos> I want to see the permissions of clickme.desktop and yakov so try ls -l clickme.desktop and ls -l yakov
[14:48] <Yakov> -rwxrwx--x 1 supernova supernova 161 Sep  7 21:54 clickme.desktop | -rwxrwxr-x 1 supernova supernova 25 Sep  7 21:50 yakov
[14:51] <pavlos> the first one is missing r for other, chmod 775 clickme.desktop
[14:51] <pavlos> bothe files should have same permissions, test it
[14:52] <Yakov> -rwxrwxr-x 1 supernova supernova 161 Sep  7 21:54 clickme.desktop | -rwxrwxr-x 1 supernova supernova 25 Sep  7 21:50 yakov
[14:52] <Yakov> is it changed?
[14:53] <pavlos> yes, now test it
[14:54] <Yakov> asking to allow launching
[14:57] <Yakov> thank you for help guys, i think its time to concede
[14:57] <ioria> never surrender
[14:58] <pavlos> and when you select clickme, right click there is NO allow launch?
[14:59] <Yakov> https://imgur.com/a/AWE7JaO
[15:00] <ioria> Yakov, chmod 764 clickme.desktop;  gio set click.desktop  metadata::trusted true
[15:00] <ioria> Yakov, chmod 764 clickme.desktop;  gio set clickme.desktop  metadata::trusted true
[15:00] <Yakov> ioria, I've tried that too, let me try again
[15:00] <pavlos> show me properties of that file , Permissions at the very bottom is there allow exec
[15:01] <ioria> Name= should be same as the .desktop filename
[15:02] <ioria> and it's casesensitive
[15:03] <Yakov> https://imgur.com/a/dgx3qnF
[15:03] <ioria> yes, but change the Name= filed in clickme
[15:04] <ioria> *field
[15:05] <ioria> Yakov, Name=clickme , not Click-Script
[15:06] <Yakov> changes nothing
[15:06] <ioria> Yakov, ls -l clickme.desktop
[15:07] <Yakov> -rwxrwxr-x 1 supernova supernova 156 Sep  7 23:05 clickme.desktop
[15:07] <ioria> Yakov,  chmod 764 clickme.desktop
[15:08] <Yakov> done
[15:08] <ioria> Yakov, ls -l clickme.desktop
[15:14] <Yakov> -rwxrw-r-- 1 supernova supernova 156 Sep  7 23:05 clickme.desktop
[15:30] <ioria> Yakov, right click on it
[15:37] <Yakov> yes, done
[15:37] <ioria> Yakov, 'allow launching' ?
[15:37] <Yakov> there is non :(
[15:37] <ioria> Yakov, gio set clickme.desktop  metadata::trusted true
[15:50] <Yakov> did few times, no effect
[15:50] <ioria> Yakov, what's your release ?
[15:51] <Yakov> 22.04
[15:51] <ioria> i tested the same
[15:53] <cahoots> hi, how can i remap the up arrow to control?
[15:58] <ioria> Yakov, ls -ld ~/Desktop
[16:00] <Yakov> drwxrwxrwx 21 supernova supernova 4096 Sep  7 22:04 /home/supernova/Desktop
[16:00] <Yakov> thanks, dude
[16:00] <ioria> wrong, change to 755
[16:01] <ioria> ah, ok, no problem
[16:02] <Yakov> should I change now?
[16:02] <ioria> what you mean ?
[16:04] <ioria> use chmod
[16:04] <Yakov> done
[16:05] <ioria> Yakov, ls -ld ~/Desktop   again
[16:06] <Yakov> drwxrwxrwx 21 supernova supernova 4096 Sep  7 22:04 /home/supernova/Desktop
[16:06] <ioria> wrong
[16:13] <Yakov> what how to make as per above ? wrong, change to 755
[16:17] <ioria> chmod 755 ~/Desktop
[16:17] <RedPen> Hi everyone, I need some assistance on how to maximize battery life in Ubuntu. My laptop battery lasts about 10 hours in other distros, currently Ubuntu is giving me about 3 hours.
[16:17] <Yakov> ioria, brother
[16:17] <Yakov> thank you
[16:18] <Yakov> pavlos, my bow for you too :)  thanks
[16:18] <RedPen> I have tried power saving mode and TLP, neither works well enough.
[16:18] <Yakov> how to download today ubuntu channel log?
[16:19] <RedPen> Nevermind, now it is saying 9 hours.
[16:21] <Yakov> 2. how to set clickme to favorites tab
[16:23] <ioria> Yakov, that's tricky, you need to copy the .desktop file in ~/local/shate/applications, then start Activities (win key),  type 'clickme' , right click  -> 'add to Fav'
[16:23] <Yakov> to make it work I just need to set sh file and .desktop file to same 755 ?
[16:23] <RedPen> Hi there, I would like my desktop environment to allow for 4 quadrants / sections per screen. I want 4 split windows of IRSSI on a desktop, but I can only do halves. Is there a setting somewhere that will enable 4 quadrants per screen for running windows?
[16:23] <ioria> err, ~/local/share/applications
[16:24] <ioria> brb
[16:25] <Yakov> supernova@supernova-BOHB-WAX9:~$ cd ~/local/share/applications | cd: /home/supernova/local/share/applications: No such file or directory
[16:31] <RedPen> On Ubuntu, I just accessed the "advanced network configuration." To my surprise there is a "Bridge" running... I didn't set up a bridge, however, is there a reason why this might occur?
[16:31] <RedPen> The interface name is: virbr0
[16:55] <Apachez> any of you who have experience of changing CONFIG_SQUASHFS_FRAGMENT_CACHE_SIZE in the linux kernel?
[16:55] <JanC> RedPen: are you using virtual machines?
[16:57] <RedPen> JanC: not currently, however, I do use Virtual Machines
[17:00] <JanC> RedPen: if you have things configured for virtual machines on that computer, then that's where virbr0 comes from
[17:00] <RedPen> ^ thank you so much for clarifying this for me.
[17:00] <JanC> libvirt sets it up
[17:01] <RedPen> ok. I use virt-manager (Qemu / KVM)
[17:01] <JanC> https://askubuntu.com/questions/246343/what-is-the-virbr0-interface-used-for
[17:01] <JanC> virt-manager is a GUI for libvirt
[17:01] <pavlos> ioria: thanks for helping ... the issue was his Desktop was not 755 ?
[17:02] <JanC> (you don't need to change it, of course, just the part where it explains what it is for)
[17:03] <RedPen> thank you for looking for me.
[17:35] <ioria> pavlos, yes
[17:35] <ioria> pavlos, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1977912
[17:35] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1977912 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu 22.04 desktop shortcut not executable" [Undecided, Invalid]
[17:40] <webchat77> On a clean minimal 23.04 install my home directories do not change language. The xdg-user-dirs package in lunar no longer provides the locale files in /usr/share/locale . Is it intentional or a packaging bug? Am I missing a package?
[17:45] <cpi> hi
[18:01] <pavlos> webchat77: LANG=C xdg-user-dirs-update --force ; cat ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[18:05] <pavlos> webchat77: there are two files in .config ... user-dirs.dirs (Desktop, Downloads, etc) and user-dirs.locale (contains the language to use)
[18:13] <webchat23> When I do an update via apt-get && apt dist-upgrade I keep getting a notice:
[18:13] <webchat23> #
[18:13] <webchat23> # You can verify the status of security fixes using the `pro fix` command.
[18:13] <webchat23> # E.g., a recent Ruby vulnerability can be checked with: `pro fix USN-6219-1`
[18:13] <webchat23> # For more detail see: https://ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-6219-1
[18:14] <webchat23> How do I clear this?
[18:14] <KnownSyntax> webchat23: by updating your Ruby packages
[18:15] <webchat23> They are already up to date if I ran those commands no?
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> !pro | webchat23
[18:16] <webchat23> I get USN-6219-1 does not affect your system.
[18:17] <webchat23> lotuspsychje this is showing up after every update with apt dist-upgrade
[18:18] <KnownSyntax> webchat23: sudo pro config set apt_news=false
[18:18] <KnownSyntax> Will disable all APT NEWS but yolo
[18:18] <KnownSyntax> Will solve your issue
[18:20] <webchat23> KnownSyntax thanks I reenabled with =true
[18:20] <webchat23> =)
[18:21] <webchat23> I don't mind notices, just irrelevant notices that I do mind.
[18:21] <KnownSyntax> You'll still have the same news update, but false will hide any news like the Ruby one on any apt update/upgrade
[18:21] <webchat23> Excellent, got it
[18:21] <KnownSyntax> Glad to resolve your concern!
[18:22] <webchat23> Thanks so much!
[18:22] <webchat77> pavlos: user-dirs.dirs contains the directories in english.  user-dirs.locale contains es_SV. Language pack is installed but xdg-user-dirs.mo for es or es_SV dont exist.
[18:26] <pavlos> webchat77: locale -a should list all lang installed. es_sv is Spanish El Salvador
[18:26] <JanC> maybe the actual translation packages are missing?
[18:29] <webchat77> pavlos: locale -a returns C C.utf8 en_AG en_AG.utf8 en_AU.utf8 en_BW.utf8 en_CA.utf8 en_DK.utf8 en_GB.utf8 en_HK.utf8 en_IE.utf8 en_IL en_IL.utf8 en_IN en_IN.utf8 en_NG en_NG.utf8 en_NZ.utf8 en_PH.utf8 en_SG.utf8 en_US.utf8 en_ZA.utf8 en_ZM en_ZM.utf8 en_ZW.utf8 es_AR.utf8 es_BO.utf8 es_CL.utf8 es_CO.utf8 es_CR.utf8 es_CU es_CU.utf8 es_DO.utf8
[18:29] <webchat77> es_EC.utf8 es_ES.utf8 es_GT.utf8 es_HN.utf8 es_MX.utf8 es_NI.utf8 es_PA.utf8 es_PE.utf8 es_PR.utf8 es_PY.utf8 es_SV.utf8 es_US.utf8 es_UY.utf8 es_VE.utf8 POSIX
[18:30] <pavlos> webchat77: I see es_SV.utf8
[18:30] <JanC> do you have the appropriate language-pack-* packages installed?
[18:31] <JanC> seems like these translations are in 'xdg-user-dirs', do you have that installed?
[18:31] <webchat77> JanC: yes both language-pack-es  and  language-pack-es-base.
[18:31] <JanC> 'xdg-user-dirs' has /usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/xdg-user-dirs.mo
[18:32] <JanC> at least on my 22.04 system
[18:32] <webchat77> JanC: is not in 23.04.
[18:33] <webchat77> JanC: https://packages.ubuntu.com/lunar/amd64/xdg-user-dirs/filelist
[18:34] <JanC> and no other package installed it?
[18:47] <JanC> webchat77: seems like it's in language-pack-gnome-es-base now https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=es%2FLC_MESSAGES%2Fxdg-user-dirs.mo&mode=&suite=lunar&arch=any
[18:48] <webchat77> JanC: Now works. the package was not listed in check-language-support. thank you.
[18:49] <JanC> maybe file a bug report about that then  :)
[19:06] <jlpedrosa> Hello! I'm trying to generate a "preinstalled" server image for pi. Could anyone tell me which source files (ubuntu-image utility) is there to trigger the build?  if there's any other method I'm also ok.
[19:07] <tomreyn> such images are available for download from ubuntu.com. that's unless you need to generate a customized pre-installed image?
[19:08] <jlpedrosa> Yes, I want to get it customized with some extra packages
[19:09] <jlpedrosa> I'm fine with packer, ubuntu-image or whatever other tooling is required. I assumed as ubuntu is open source, the build scripts would be somewhere, but I can't find them (several hours searching already)
[19:09] <tomreyn> that's not something i've done for raspi before, can't help.
[20:26] <preach> https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/locator/ec2/ where's us-east 22.04 ?!
[20:34] <tomreyn> preach: "Showing 1 to 100 of 466 entries". and if you have questions on cloud images, best head over to #ubuntu-cloud
[20:35] <tomreyn> oh sorry, no us-east *for 22.04* indeed.
[20:44] <fred_> evening all
[20:47] <tomreyn> greetings, fred_
[21:25] <RedPen> Is it a good idea to full-format SSD's after using Linux on them, and or before re-installing over?
[21:26] <RedPen> Or can I just erase and partition over ?
[21:30] <NewtonTrendy> RedPen: it might be quicker to quick reformat than delete? not sure how it works if youre trying for speed, its certainly normal to reformal on reinstall
[21:30] <NewtonTrendy> *reformat
[21:30] <RedPen> ok
[21:30] <RedPen> I just create new partitions with installers, is that the same as a quick format?
[21:31] <NewtonTrendy> im not completely sure but i think its the same as a quick one, because a full one writes over all the data
[21:32] <NewtonTrendy> if you need new partitions you can use partition tools, theres usually option to do a full reformat, i wouldnt bother because i have no secure data on it
[21:32] <RedPen> ok, I think so too. I've never had an issue before.
[21:34] <tomreyn> usually you don't need to do anything. but there can be situations where installers get irritated by existing on disk dstructures. if that's the case, run wipefs --all against the device (make double sure you hit the right device)
[22:18] <Elw3> Maybe here someone knows: Ive tried disabling showing grub at boot, edited etc/default/grub and set timeout to 0, run grub update, grub still there. Why is it not working?
[22:19] <jeremy31> Elw3: is it a dual boot?
[22:20] <Elw3> i think so
[22:20] <jeremy31> Elw3: windows or another linux OS?
[22:21] <Elw3> Brand new pc where ive run the installer on full auto, i believe it kept windows.
[22:22] <jeremy31> Elw3: the grub menu will show by default then
[22:22] <Elw3> ...
[22:22] <Elw3> Yea but the question is, how to not.
[22:23] <jeremy31> Elw3: might take someone better than me with grub
[22:27] <Elw3> I already see that this behaviour is caused by a line in grub.cfg saying if timeout==0 then timeout =10. But this file is not supposed to be edited manually so i really need to find out where the right config file for this is.
[22:36] <jeremy31> Elw3: I think anything there gets ignored when os-prober finds the other OS
[22:40] <Elw3> I mean i could disable os prober then. But for ppl who desire multiboot and no grub, i mean you can still show it holding shift, this looks like a design flaw
[22:49] <jeremy31> Elw3: os-prober is disabled, but that might be for non UEFI
[22:50] <Elw3> Yee the installer gave a warning about this i remeber. grub update definetly run it tho.
[22:51] <jeremy31> Normal for UEFI with 2 OS on the same drive
[22:52] <jeremy31> Elw3: See https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2020/06/hide-grub-boot-menu-ubuntu-20-04-lts/  ignore the grub-customizer stuff and go to editing the /etc/default/grub
[22:58] <Elw3> Ah so "And set quick_boot=”0″." Is what i need apparently. Cool find, thanks.
[22:58] <Elw3> Also totally not an obvious option, quick boot to string of 0... makes no sense but okey
[23:01] <jeremy31> Elw3: like I said someone smarter than me with grub
[23:03] <Elw3> There is no smartness here, only better google skills.
[23:04] <Elw3> I have lost touch with how to research such problems in the recent years because search engines make less and less sense to me.
[23:10] <jeremy31> Elw3: yes and sometimes you have to wade through the garbage