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enycWhats' the right place to  bung in development investigational suggesions ?11:32
enyc.. Definitely of the view  that  something like  System76's pop-os Zram setup Script  or  full blown zram-generator  needs serious investigation for ubuntu11:32
enycessentially zramswap has considerable benefit for majority of users and if set suitably not a detriment,  reduces SSD wear and swapping and increases speed.  In my experience on old and new machines alike.11:33
enycfedora and pop!_os (and indeed osx and w**dows) have this already aiui11:34
enycin short even just installing  zram-tools  package out the box has a conservative default  in /etc/default/zramswap11:36
enycUbuntu really needs to question things like this for default install11:37
enycp.s. how is Wayland in ubuntu improving, what are the snags, etc?11:37
guivercenyc, Ubuntu mantic has had past a number of freeze points already (feature, UI); so it's too late for mantic13:05
guivercI'd assume Ubuntu Community Hub/discourse; eg. https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/replacing-shotwell-as-photo-manager-and-editor/363513:05
enycguiverc: at what point would it be too-late to provide an extra mantic installable package with equivalent of downstream system76 zram script in it, and encourage people to test it [but not provide it by default] ?13:51
guivercif it's in a package not included on ISO, it's not too late.  the freeze(s) (& not all have past/hit) relates to packages included on released ISO13:52
enycguiverc: do you know people (or teams) better-involved in processes who could be asked to make a trivial package in that regard?13:53
enycalas IRL messes of many at the moment myself13:53
guivercdevelopers are the people to really know (I'm not a developer sorry!)... If it's to be on installed Ubuntu Desktop the desktop team make sense; however if it's optional & thus a 'universe' or community package; MOTUs maybe.. For flavor packages, they each have their own teams (& most include MOTUs (or better/CoreDev) anyway I'd bet)13:56
enycguiverc: AHA good point thaknyou!13:56
* guiverc clarifies: by "if it's to be on installed Ubuntu Desktop" - I meant on the ISO itself; where feature freeze has already happened...14:02
enycguiverc: yes, that makes sense.14:09

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