[16:54] <sebsebseb> hi
[16:54] <penguin42> hey
[16:54] <penguin42> finally starting to cool down a bit here
[16:55] <sebsebseb> penguin42: yep here  too
[17:04] <zxmpi> down to 23c here today, was over 25c yesterday
[17:07] <penguin42> it's claiming to be down to 20c accoding to the weather app on the bar
[22:17] <daftykins> aaaah... a glorious breeze!
[22:17] <daftykins> i might be hopping over to Exeter sometime soon
[22:17] <daftykins> i just found a Brewdog restaurant there, that ought to be fun
[22:32] <penguin42> hmm I think there's one here as well
[22:36] <daftykins> we drink a fair bit of their "Lost" in cans down at my dentist pal's practice
[22:36] <daftykins> out of hours, of course xD
[22:36] <daftykins> i think he'll be jealous once i mention having the chance to visit one o' these
[22:37] <daftykins> hmm of course visiting England means finding a spare phone and a UK SIM
[22:39] <penguin42> so I just spent an hour chasing something truly obscure
[22:40] <penguin42> https://cdn.mastodon.org.uk/media_attachments/files/111/042/671/143/131/984/original/468f76ad3191872c.jpeg   you see that green smudge under 'license'
[22:40] <daftykins> yep
[22:41] <penguin42> ok, where do you start debugging it
[22:41] <daftykins> probably dragging in another white window to start, to rule out the monitor
[22:42] <daftykins> then again scrolling would do that xD
[22:42] <penguin42> dragging a white window over it, the white window is fine
[22:42] <penguin42> scrolling follows the scroll
[22:43] <daftykins> hrmm, separate browsers on the same page next i'd try
[22:43] <penguin42> chromium doesn't exhibit it
[22:44] <daftykins> but the Fox can do no wrong, in my book!
[22:44] <penguin42> I will note the green is flickering and jittering
[22:44] <daftykins> ooh
[22:44] <daftykins> right click -> inspect element find anything other than background blankness?
[22:45] <penguin42> worlds most boring html
[22:46] <daftykins> wow, ok... amaze me!
[22:46] <penguin42> daftykins: OK, let me tell you another one - screenshot doesn't show it
[22:46] <daftykins> O_O
[22:47] <penguin42> daftykins: Disabling hardware acceleration doesn't help
[22:47] <penguin42> daftykins: And restarting ff doesn't help
[22:48] <penguin42> daftykins: Changing the sharpness on the monitor makes it go away
[22:48] <daftykins> oooh
[22:48] <daftykins> so it was in the display, wowzer
[22:49] <penguin42> odd isnt it
[22:49] <daftykins> that's quite the tricky one!
[22:49] <penguin42> but it's only that page it's showing it on
[22:50] <daftykins> i wonder what about that region makes your monitor go so nutty
[22:50] <daftykins> here's one for fun, what about rotating?
[22:50] <daftykins> would the pattern perfectly rotate 90 degrees to fill the same portion?
[22:51] <penguin42> my suspicion is it's an aging fault on the monitor; it seems very sensivie to the exact background colour; if I edit the background colour it goes away
[22:51] <daftykins> :D
[22:51] <penguin42> I think it's triggering on the right hand slope of the 'v' in approved
[22:51] <daftykins> i have quite a number of vertical lines when i cold power-on my 2008 CCFL backed LCDs now, after a warm-up these disappear
[22:52] <penguin42> are they black lines?
[22:52] <daftykins> oh yeah that does look like the origin
[22:52] <daftykins> they're a bit of a mix, some colours - some black so presumably unlit columns
[22:52] <penguin42> yeh
[22:54] <penguin42> I did have another Dell monitor that had settings related artifacts - but they were much larger scale and much less image specific
[22:55] <daftykins> here's how one looks - https://i.imgur.com/VcZyb35.jpg
[22:56] <penguin42> oh yeh, that's normally a connection to the panel going over time I think
[22:57] <daftykins> apparently a bit of hairdryer action between the layers can help, but since it disappears on warmup i have just accepted it
[22:57] <penguin42> yep