[01:43] <gebbione> how to tell where CUPS-BRF-Printer outputs the PDF?
[01:51] <alevykh> Hello! Where can I download Ubuntu released before 22.04.3? Preferred version is 22.04.1. Only a verified resource, please. I'm asking because have issue https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2490602
[01:57] <gebbione> alevykh, i just googled it http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[02:00] <alevykh> gebbione, thank you! I forgot about google (
[02:32] <Anonamy> hello I need help. I am using a Ubuntu Live CD to access a hard drive on a computer.
[02:33] <Anonamy> the hard drive is also Ubuntu.
[02:33] <Anonamy> I am trying to backup the home directory, however I am getting permission denied error. I check the permissions and it says the user is '1000'
[02:34] <Anonamy> I tried also using 'sudo thunar' but still get same error.
[02:34] <rbox> just open a console, sudo -i, cd to the directory, and copy whatevery ou want
[02:41] <Anonamy> rbox, thanks !
[02:43] <zcot> Anonamy: you can check a right click in thunar, "open as root". sudo thunar is not the best move, although not as much of a big deal on a live session but winging sudo as any resort is not great. 'pkexec thunar' would be a more designed solution.
[02:45] <Eickmeyer> If it's an Ubuntu live CD, zcot, it doesn't have thunar.
[02:49] <Akshay> Hello, I am currently dual booting an older version of Ubuntu (20.04) on my PC build! I, however, keep running into an issue after installation where I get stuck at the recovering journal with a message that says something like iwlwifi ... no suitable firmware found. I also can't enter Ubuntu recovery mode because I don't have a grub menu and have
[02:49] <Akshay> to change my boot order manually through the BIOS to switch from Ubuntu and Windows. Can anyone help? :)
[02:51] <zcot> Eickmeyer: ah! right, didn't pick up the flavor variation there.
[02:52] <rbox> Akshay: step 1, back up your files, step 2 intall a modern version, step 3 profit
[02:52] <Akshay> What if I need an older version though? I'm using ROS and need 20.04 lol
[02:52] <rbox> use docker
[02:53] <Eickmeyer> rbox: That's not helpful.
[02:53] <Eickmeyer> Akshay: I had to do that with my son's laptop by using refind as a bootloader instead of grub.
[02:53] <Eickmeyer> !info refind focal
[02:54] <Eickmeyer> More info at rodsbooks.com
[02:54] <Akshay> Do I install refind on my windows OS?
[02:55] <Eickmeyer> Well, considering it's installable from Ubuntu (and I just pointed out the Ubuntu package), I wouldn't.
[02:55] <Eickmeyer> It installs to the EFI partition on your machine.
[02:56] <Eickmeyer> Same as grub would do.
[02:56] <Akshay> I see... How would I install on Ubuntu without Ubuntu tho :/
[02:57] <Akshay> I currently only have windows
[02:57] <Eickmeyer> Change your boot manually (temporarily) until refind is installed, then change to refind.
[02:57] <Akshay> Okay thank you
[02:57] <Eickmeyer> That's what I had to do with my son's Gateway.
[02:57] <Eickmeyer> yw
[03:12] <toddc> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[04:55] <e54> Hello? Is there anybody out there?
[04:56] <toddc> !ask | e54
[04:58] <e54> I have no question. Thanks.
[04:58] <toddc> lots of us here
[05:01] <e54> I haven't been on irc in years. I was checking out new thunderbird. They still have irc client. lol
[07:23] <webchat51> hi all. can someone help me please? my 23.04 doesn't boot, just black screen and flickering cursor. I have tried anything I have found online. Ctrl+Alt+t doesn't work either.
[07:42] <quite> hiya. today, when I run `apt update` in an container based on docker.io/library/ubuntu:22.10 i'm getting "The repository 'http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu kinetic-security Release' does not have a Release file.". i did not see that yesterday -- is that me or...?
[07:42] <quite> something has gone EOL?
[07:43] <toddc> quite:  https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2023/07/27/ubuntu-22-10-kinetic-kudu-end-of-life-reached-on-july-20-2023/
[07:45] <quite> toddc: thanks, i found that but somehow just filtered it because it did not mention "september", thanks!
[07:45] <toddc> stick to lts
[07:45] <quite> toddc: yes! i'll mention to my peers as well.
[07:49] <geirha> regular releases are supported for 9 months, LTS releases for 5 years, so LTS gives you a lot more time to upgrade
[10:34] <alumne> hola
[12:29] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:46] <ev0n44> Does ubuntu use a separate password for superuser like debian does?
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> !sudo | ev0n44
[13:47] <leftyfb> ev0n44: Debian doesn't do that either
[13:47] <leftyfb> ev0n44: please read up on what sudo us
[13:47] <leftyfb> is*
[13:48] <leftyfb> ev0n44: root has a password and your user has a password. When your user attempt to run something using "sudo", the password it is asking for is your users password
[13:49] <leftyfb> ev0n44: by default, the root account is disabled and unless you know what you're doing, you shouldn't set one or use root at all
[13:51] <ev0n44> leftyfb thanks.  That's all I needed to know.  Trying to set up a system where the user has no ability to install any software without a root password.  I will stick with debian then
[13:52] <leftyfb> Both Debian and Ubuntu will react that situation the same way
[13:53] <leftyfb> Both of them allow you to add a user without admin privileges
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> ev0n44: could play with chmod on the user you want to restrict too
[13:53] <ev0n44> this is true
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> !chmod
[13:54] <ev0n44> Ok if what I'm trying to do doesn't work with my debian install, I will try ubuntu next
[13:54] <leftyfb> And both of them disable root by default
[13:54] <leftyfb> ev0n44: both of them will be the same in this regard
[13:54] <leftyfb> Just create a user without admin privileges and set a root password
[13:55] <ev0n44> leftyfb, really?  root isn't disabled in my debian install. It actually asked me to set a root password
[13:55] <leftyfb> Mind you, this is all a terrible idea
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> ev0n44: there are some kiosk packages/methods on ubuntu as well, if thats your end goal
[13:56] <leftyfb> I’m order to install software, you are requiring them to login as root. Now they have full admin privileges
[13:56] <leftyfb> I’m/in
[13:57] <leftyfb> I don’t see the purpose of setting and giving out a root password just to limit what users can do. That’s what the sudo group and sudoers is for
[13:58] <leftyfb> Setting and giving out a root password is giving complete and unrestricted access to the entire system, the same thing as just adding a user to certain groups including the sudo group
[14:11] <ev0n44> I have no intention of giving out the root password.  The root password is just for me to administration.  I just don't want my kids to be able to add any software to the computer at all
[14:14] <leftyfb> ev0n44: then add users for your kids that don't have admin privs
[14:14] <leftyfb> it's pretty simple
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> +1
[14:14] <ev0n44> Ok I will try it that way
[14:14] <leftyfb> ev0n44: you have yet to give a valid reason to enable the root account
[14:15] <ev0n44> I hear what you're saying. I will try it that way.
[14:17] <ev0n44> Is the only way to get ubuntu with just the terminal to use the server edition?
[14:17] <leftyfb> that's the preferred method, yes
[14:18] <ev0n44> Ok just making sure.  Debian's not working out for me so i'm going to try ubuntu now
[15:03] <peacefulman> it's been awhile since I used ms teams on linux, is the web client decent now? Can you share your desktop with no problems? Last time I used the browser client it was limited.
[15:04] <peacefulman> I noticed Microsoft discontinued the binary / deb pkg for teams.
[15:04] <leftyfb> peacefulman: teams for the web has nothing to do with ubuntu/linux. It should work just as well as it does on any other OS
[15:04] <oerheks> unofficial https://snapcraft.io/teams-for-linux
[15:05] <peacefulman> leftyfb: is that a joke? Because previously the browser client was really limited on linux and buggy.
[15:05] <peacefulman> oerheks: thanks, much appreciated
[15:06] <oerheks> it is unofficial, but recently updated
[15:06] <oerheks> also, teams work best from edge. ymmv
[15:06] <leftyfb> edge = skinned chromium
[15:07] <leftyfb> there should be no difference
[15:07] <oerheks> better than in chrome, AFAIK
[15:15] <peacefulman> leftyfb: it's obvious you have never actually used the teams browser client. I've tried both chromium and the official chrome version, do a search and you'll find other people have similiar issues. Maybe they finally fixed them now, but it was limited for quite some time
[15:16] <oerheks> maybe .. time to test now?
[15:17] <leftyfb> peacefulman: I've used it for video calls and it's worked fine. Regardless, we're offtopic here as it's not an ubuntu support issue. If there are bugs with it, then you'll need to report those bugs with Microsoft
[15:24] <peacefulman> leftyfb: I asked because I am curious what the support is in ubuntu. Is asking if an app works ok on ubuntu offtopic?
[15:36] <peacefulman> leftfb: hey... I apologize. I'm being too argumentative.
[16:54] <leftleg_> hello all
[16:54] <leftleg_> I setup Ubuntu server 22.04. I want the home folder for users to be created on on raid volume, and not the OS ssd. I've been searching the Google, but I'm not finding anything. Is there some config file I can edit to set this automatically when I create a new user?
[16:55] <ikonia> leftleg_: either useradd/usermod -d to set it the mount point of your ssd, or mount your ssd on /home
[16:56] <leftyfb> leftleg_: https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/en/man8/useradd.8.html#:~:text=%2Dd%2C%20%2D%2Dhome%2Ddir%20HOME_DIR
[17:02] <leftleg_> leftyfb: Thanks. Do you know if there is a way to define BASE_DIR permanently?
[17:02] <leftleg_> ikonia: Thanks.
[17:02] <leftyfb> leftleg_: bind mount your RAID home over /home
[17:03] <leftleg_> Ahh. I've read some about bind mount. Bind mount is an alias?
[17:03] <leftyfb> no, it's a bind mount :)
[17:04] <leftyfb> it's basically mounting an existing mount or even directory over another directory
[17:11] <leftleg_> So basically I'm setting up an ftp user for a phone system for backups. I know there a bunch of ways to go about it, but would install vsftpd, configure vsftpd,  add users, change the home directory if needed. Is there a better way to achive this, or is there something you could recoomend to a new Ubunutu user here?
[17:12] <oerheks> setup a SSH user ;
[17:12] <leftyfb> leftleg_: I recommend using scp/sftp over ftp and using something like ansible to automate building this server and another ansible playbook just for adding new users which will do everything you need. Or just make a script on the server to do it
[17:15] <matsaman> leftyfb: would also suggest using an ssh server and sftp/&c
[17:15] <matsaman> or even rsync
[17:15] <matsaman> ftp is insecure by default, ssh is more frequently already provisioned and easier to setup and secure by default
[17:17] <oerheks> rsync and grsync as gui
[17:17] <oerheks> tons of solutions
[17:48] <Elw3> Could someone please check for me if the picture viewer mirage works for them? i am getting a plain segfault here
[17:51] <ioria> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mirage/+bug/1994145
[17:51] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1994145 in mirage (Ubuntu) "Mirage segfaults immediately when run" [Undecided, Confirmed]
[17:52] <ioria> maybe a python issue, idk exactly
[17:53] <Elw3> Oh thank you
[17:54] <ioria> Elw3, you can try the appimage : https://github.com/mirukana/mirage/releases
[17:54] <Elw3> I really dont wanna mess with these
[17:55] <ioria> nvm, sorry that's is something else
[17:57] <oerheks> build it yourself? mirage (0.11.1-1build6)   * Rebuild to drop Python 3.10 extension
[17:59] <Elw3> not wanting to mess around at all, its just a bit annoying when stuff from the repo plain segfaults
[18:32] <xli40> hello
[18:32] <mwu41> YOURE DUMB
[18:32] <mwu41> sorry
[18:33] <leftyfb> xli40: mwu41: please don't. There's also need to be signed into IRC twice
[18:34] <mwu41> im soryr leftyfb
[18:35] <leftleg_> leftyfb: oerheks: Thanks.
[18:37] <mwu41> hi there
[18:37] <leftleg_> hello
[19:11] <Elw3> Jebus another package broken. How is the state of the repo that bad?
[20:00] <radix0> Hey, folks. Ignorant Windows admin here. Something I've had on my mind for a while now but there's no obvious answer. Is there any concept with Ubuntu distros of a "patch tuesday" of sorts or a day a bunch of patches are released at once for ubuntu machines or is more "rolling" style?
[20:00] <rbox> things are patched when they are patched
[20:01] <rbox> but you can just run update/upgrade once a week if you want
[20:01] <rbox> you can do it on tuesday!
[20:03] <ravage> radix0: asap
[20:03] <radix0> OK I think that's the answer I needed, thanks. So my rough once-a-month checkin is probably fine.
[20:03] <radix0> ravage, obviously :)
[20:04] <ravage> the security team tries not to release on friday
[20:05] <radix0> I try to not patch on fridays. So we're in sync on that point lol
[20:07] <ravage> i recommend unattended-upgrades set to security
[20:07] <ravage> on an LTS release that is really safe
[20:43] <cybot_> hi
[22:29] <mgj> hello there
[22:36] <oerheks> not a record
[22:37] <wikifurry-1> what % of ubuntu users are femboys
[22:37] <oerheks> the other % love you
[22:37] <oerheks> !ot
[22:38] <oerheks> 😂
[23:07] <chonkin> ;
[23:10] <oerheks> yes no
[23:10] <oerheks> hi chonkin
[23:11] <oerheks> https://www.dropbox.com/s/w6ywqjtkr73t8vg/2018music.png?dl=0
[23:12] <oerheks> oops wrong channel
[23:12] <chonkin> hello
[23:12] <chonkin> any KDE plasma fans?
[23:15] <oerheks> sure
[23:15] <oerheks> more likelyin #kubuntu
[23:16] <oerheks> kde is great, it is like gnome + tweaks
[23:20] <milp> hello
[23:22] <oerheks> :-)
[23:27] <leftleg_> is there any good way to sync icloud with ubuntu system? My goal is to sync an icloud share to my local ubuntu box.
[23:30] <oerheks> yes
[23:30] <oerheks> wikipedia oerheks
[23:31] <oerheks> sorry
[23:31] <oerheks> sudo snap install icloud-for-linux
[23:31] <oerheks> https://snapcraft.io/icloud-for-linux
[23:32] <oerheks> other option is via onedrive
[23:32] <oerheks> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1451981/transfer-files-from-icloud-and-one-drive-to-desktop-running-ubuntu
[23:47] <pasjrwoctx> is anyone well experienced with v4l2 and gphoto2?
[23:48] <leftyfb> oerheks: while that sounds great on paper, in reality it's just individual shortcuts to the web-app version of the individual icloud services
[23:52] <leftyfb> oerheks: what's worse, every time to close the window, you have to sign in again the next time you open a new one
[23:54] <oerheks> oh, weird.
[23:54] <oerheks> downside of snap protective env.
[23:54] <leftyfb> I wouldn't blame just snaps, Apple isn't going to allow installing their apps on linux
[23:55] <leftyfb> they're just web apps
[23:56] <oerheks> yes, good protective cookie
[23:56] <oerheks> it works, that is all