[12:42] <pickanick>  "For help, please use RT" What's that and should it be obvious to everyone?
[12:44] <sajoupa> pickanick: it's the email tip at the end of the topic
[12:46] <ravage> it is a ticket system called request tracker
[12:46] <ravage> you can open a ticket there via email
[12:47] <pickanick> I recommend the channel topic is " For help, please email the request tracker (RT) at mirrors@ubuntu.com "
[12:47] <ravage> i already suggested to chnage the topic because nobody knows what RT is
[12:47] <ravage> but i was told that it is abvious
[12:47] <ravage> *obvious
[12:48] <pickanick> Keeping it obscure saves a few precious characters plus has the advantage of minimizing work to the support specialists. 
[12:50] <ravage> i really have no clue. i just keep telling everyone after they join
[12:50] <ravage> my ticket got answered fast so i cant complain
[12:58] <pickanick> ravage, thank you for your help. 
[13:02] <pickanick> Where is the list of ubuntu mirrors? I don't see it on the doc page linked above.
[13:04] <pickanick> Can mirrors use https: ?  You might be surprised to learn that users in my part of the world have better throughput with https than with http because http is too easy to mess with.
[13:06] <ravage> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[13:07] <pickanick> "The repository 'http://hk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy InRelease' is no longer signed."
[13:07] <maswan> you can, but the cctld.archive.ubuntu.com aren't
[13:07] <maswan> available over https since they are on mirrors and needs to be redirected
[13:07] <maswan> but you can chose one particular mirror and use their native name over https
[13:08] <maswan> so http://se.archive.ubuntu.com but https://mirror.accum.se
[13:08] <barryprice> exactly, so for Hong Kong, https://mirror.xtom.com.hk/ubuntu/ is 10Gbps and HTTPS
[13:10] <barryprice> (via the Hong Kong section of ravage's link above)
[13:41] <pickanick> is there an https replacement for http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu ?
[13:43] <ravage> pickanick: i dont think so
[14:03] <pickanick> interesting
[14:05] <Fluor> pickanick, https doesnt add much to the mirrors, overhead perhaps. all packages are sha-summed and signed by gpg-keys to protect integrity.
[14:08] <maswan> in places with adversarial ISPs, https might be faster and more reliable
[14:10] <pickanick> Fluor: please note the comment of maswan, he is correct.
[14:14] <pickanick> I'm still getting with the new URL "Err:9 https://mirror.xtom.com.hk/ubuntu jammy InRelease  403  Forbidden [IP: 2403:2c80:5::6 443] \
[14:14] <pickanick> Err:10 https://mirror.xtom.com.hk/ubuntu jammy-updates InRelease \  403  Forbidden [IP: 2403:2c80:5::6 443] \   Err:11 https://mirror.xtom.com.hk/ubuntu jammy-backports InRelease \   403  Forbidden [IP: 2403:2c80:5::6 443]
[14:17] <pickanick> The repository 'https://mirror.xtom.com.hk/ubuntu jammy InRelease' is not signed       (pardon me will switch networks and rejoin)
[14:25] <pickanick> hmm when connecting by other more convoluted means, https://mirror.xtom.com.hk/ubuntu seems to work fine. 
[14:28] <pickanick> a pox upon the adversarial ISP and all their house
[16:00] <Guest68> Hello - anyone know what timezone archive.ubuntu.com is in?
[16:13] <enyc> Guest68: I always wonder with pointers like that if they point to different locations ...  SEEMS to be linked into he-london in one case, seems to be boston/USA in aontther case
[16:13] <enyc> Guest68: e.g.  2620:2d:4000 ...  and  2620:2d:4002 ...  go to different locations
[16:28] <ravage> they are US and UK
[16:28] <ravage> im not sure if there any smart geo location going on
[16:29] <Guest68> so probably better to use the countrycode.archive ... for an internal mirror (ran into a few issues with timing)
[16:29] <ravage> a mirror for your country should exists and you should use one 
[16:30] <ravage> what does internal mirror mean?
[16:30] <Guest68> non public
[16:30] <ravage> you can sync that for a country specific mirror if it provides rsync
[16:31] <ravage> i would choose one from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors with a good connection
[16:31] <ravage> and also add some checks so you get notified on errors
[16:32] <ravage> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Rsyncmirror
[16:34] <ravage> the question is if you really need a full mirror or just a proxy with cache
[16:35] <Guest68> Probably proxy with cache, but this existed before my time here
[16:35] <ravage> i think an nginx config to do that should be done within an hour :)
[16:36] <ravage> or use something like https://medium.com/@scythargon/local-caching-mirror-for-ubuntu-apt-5390dae5ed5f
[16:36] <ravage> but i always find nginx very useful for this
[16:39] <ravage> https://yeupou.wordpress.com/2014/01/28/caching-debianetc-apt-repositories-on-your-local-server-with-nginx-and-dsniff/ but you can ignore all the dns fake stuff. you dont need to fake any dns for your own mirror
[16:40] <Guest68> Thanks