[00:02] https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/mozilla-patches-firefox-thunderbird-against-zero-day-exploited-in-attacks/ [00:02] https://snapcraft.io/thunderbird [00:02] is anyone at canonical ever gonna update thunderbird for snaps? [00:04] beta and candidate have the patch [00:04] just wait for it. [00:04] okies [00:05] i think it is just about OpenSSL 1.1.1 EOL [00:05] so, you can check or patch yourself [00:06] 3.1 is fine [00:06] o r3,0 LTS [00:24] nah the issue is more on the webp library and how its possible to abuse it to RCE [00:25] but i forgot snap has channels so i just jump to candidate [00:34] that's a nasty one [00:37] if a test is successfull .. [00:37] i hope for a report [00:37] but wouldn't be so much of an issue when the webp library wouldn't be inside a snap (or flatpak, or similar)... :P [00:45] google just announced a bug in webP [00:45] lolz [00:45] update is available [00:45] 4 hrs ago [00:45] JanC, ** === limpsasd is now known as specialperson === chris14_ is now known as chris14 === hjeldin1 is now known as hjeldin0 [03:55] What bug? === joe is now known as Guest2041 === Guest2041 is now known as JoeBk2 === remy_ is now known as Remy === kostkon_ is now known as kostkon === ord is now known as quem [08:19] i have a ps1 file in linux /var/www/html that has a line that reads this (New-Object System.Net.WebClient).DownloadString('http://192.168.45.244:80/hello.ps1') i would like to read the ip from an env variable in linux how can i do that ? [08:24] I am unfamiliar with a "ps1 file", but hopefully someone else knows. be patient. [08:47] can't you just use $env:VARNAME like in any powershell script? === GreenRio- is now known as GreenRiot [09:17] hi [09:17] Is it possible to get support here ? I have this question https://askubuntu.com/questions/1485645/wifi-is-not-showing-up [09:26] My rep isn't high enough to comment, but I'd have asked them what "lspci -v" gives for their network card, since they don't provide enough information. But they left.. [09:27] bummer [10:27] hi, when i install ubuntu 22.04.3 in "Installation type" I choose "Erase disk and install ubuntu". There is "advanced options", in that section what does they mean "LVM" and "ZFS" and at the bottom there is an option to encrypt ubuntu installation with a security key. Should I choose one of these other options? I don't know if it's better to choose [10:27] some over others [10:27] https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Q_a0HVant6eaJmJS4E8FWdMHUs0x8wgr/view?usp=sharing [10:29] lvm - is a way to setup a large volume media with physical and ?ethereal? volumes. ZFS is just a different file system. You should pick swap for swap and ext4 for the others (if you are daring btrfs). [10:30] since you asked, you should not do lvm - imho (b/c u did not know even what it was) [10:33] So should I leave the default option "none"? [10:35] what was wrong with auto and erase disc? [10:36] i just asked if there is an option better than others [10:43] weedmic i don't know which option is better to be choosen [10:45] if you don't need anyting on the disc, for you - pick the automatic with erase disc. [10:46] oh boy.. [10:46] if you want to do it manually, you can ask for suggestions, and then be here all day :D [10:46] just use the default and erase the disk [10:46] lol [10:49] i just asked if it's better with a specific option for example about compatibility issues with files, devices and so on [10:50] John_D i remember in past some files didn't open, I don't know if it depended on one of these options [10:51] Ik heb mijn aanbeveling al gegeven [10:51] oops, we gave u the same recommendation - <(") [10:52] Guest69 default option is the safest bet [10:57] what to expect from the next LTS release... [10:58] John_D ok and could it be useful the option to encrypt? [10:58] weedmic there is also an option to encrypt, i don't know if it could be useful [10:59] Guest69 it could be useful if you have sensitive information on your laptop and it gets stolen. for average user it's unneccesary [11:03] I see Firefox was updated but Thunderbird doesn't have an update to 102.15.1. Is there a rough timeline for this release, as it fixes a zero-day? [11:04] thunderbird nowadays is a community project and has different update schedule [11:08] John_D, Huh? Thunderbird's already updated. It's the Ubuntu package that isn't updated. [11:09] give it some time [11:11] u may want to see if you have thunderbird or snap thunderbird - before you spend any time on it "snap list" [11:26] weedmic: ZFS is *also* a volume manager (similar to LVM), not just a file system [11:27] tks [11:33] Hello. I'm unable to figure out how to make grub display the menu before booting. [11:33] I've changed /etc/default/grub as follows. [11:33] GRUB_TIMEOUT=5 [11:33] GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=menu [11:34] are those seconds or milliseconds? [11:34] sudo update grub [11:34] then reboot [11:34] I have then run "update-grub". After rebooting the machine, there's nothing displaying. [11:34] hm weird [11:34] It seems there's a timeout during a blank screen of some sorts and then I'm seeing things initialising. [11:35] John_D: update-grub is only to rescan/appl newly edited settings a user did on grub changes [11:35] Yes, he was right to say that. [11:35] In this context. [11:36] Actually the command is mentioned in a comment inside /etc/default/grub. [11:37] Anyway, the virtual machine doesn't seem to wait more than 1-2 seconds, let alone 5. [11:37] This is Ubuntu 22.04.3 installed from a cloud image running on vsphere. [11:39] oh, that complicates things [11:39] I thought it was on hardware [11:39] In what way does it make things complicated? [11:41] not sure how VMs handle grub === docmax is now known as Guest8993 [11:43] Well, not knowing it doesn't make it's more complicated, but eh. It's irrelevant after all :) [11:43] yeah, screw it : ) [11:46] The problem is not irrelevant for me. I was just talking about vm/hardware. [11:52] the 5 seconds timeout actually seems to be working. It's just that everything is blank unfortunately. [11:53] Maybe this is related to the console/tty. [11:54] effendy: https://askubuntu.com/questions/16042/how-to-get-to-the-grub-menu-at-boot-time [11:55] The shift thing doesn't work or works extremely rarely. I'm not sure if this is an issue with vsphere. And that's exactly the reason why I'm trying to change the default settings for grub, so that I avoid getting into this problem when I need to recover the system or change any settings directly in grub. [11:58] Ok, I've got it. There was another file (classical issue) under /etc/default/grub.d that would override the grub timeout. [11:58] \/etc/default/grub.d/50-cloudimg-settings.cfg [12:14] Do the open source AMD drivers that come pre-installed on ubuntu support ROCm? [12:16] Hi all [12:17] question, on maccomand prompt, how can i go back to the first character of a given loooong command instead of goingg with the back key indefintelty [12:18] pagios: "maccomand prompt"? [12:18] no konsole [12:18] i pressed the uparrow and wanna go back now ... [12:19] pagios: press your home key [12:20] thanks! [12:20] and to go to the end ? [12:20] pageup [12:20] thanks! [12:22] hi I'm using ubuntu latest ver and [12:22] I have a 1080 i want max performance [12:22] should I use open source driver or propietario [12:25] and if using propietario, should i use one the driver meta package or the server driver meta [12:25] fichero, only the non open source works well with high fps, last time i checked at least [12:26] should i download it from nvidia.com or [12:26] fichero, no just from the repo [12:26] is it also open source and early beta [12:26] or runs great? [12:30] i do not know if there are beta's in the repo fichero [12:32] but you can go here and just install it https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-nvidia-drivers-on-ubuntu-20-04/ubuntu-nvidia-drivers_huef7b9865e100db748990ddc3c04b6cc8_80557_768x0_resize_q75_lanczos.jpg [12:33] and take the above option for driver install, the other is the open source one [12:37] hm. interesting [12:37] Hello is http://hk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu still legitimate? "The repository 'http://hk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy InRelease' is no longer signed.' [12:38] Failed to fetch http://hk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jammy/InRelease 403 Forbidden [IP: 2403:2c80:5::6 80] Failed to fetch http://hk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jammy-updates/InRelease 403 Forbidden [IP: 2403:2c80:5::6 80] [12:39] The repository 'http://hk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-updates InRelease' is no longer signed. .... The repository 'http://hk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-backports InRelease' is no longer signed. [12:40] pickanick: try #ubuntu-mirrors [12:40] but i would choose another one for now [12:41] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors [12:48] coconut: i notice the top line is the latest ver, mine has multiple vers options even for server [12:50] fichero, do not know that fichero, i have not used ubuntu for some time now [12:50] well, you dont want the server drivers on a desktop ... they are rather optimized for things like CUDA or coin mining etc [12:51] fichero: you choose the recommended one [12:51] from the "additional drivers" application [12:51] fichero: open the "Additional drivers" app and click on the option that says recommended [12:52] yes it was the first line and after a couple minutes it told me is the recomended [13:02] any systemd gurus around? whats the difference between frr.service and frr@.service? does that @ have some special meaning in systemd-world? [13:04] Apachez: This might help: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/systemd [13:05] Look at the second note "Some unit names contain an @..." [13:23] what happened when password and key app crashes? [13:23] i mean why would it crash [13:25] you might never know. just reboot [13:25] my cpu-nb was at 2200 [13:25] default is 2000 i think [13:25] on a phenom ii [13:25] the voltage is the same as my cpu 1.475 [13:26] I should put it at 1.4 since is default now but it may break, last time it was at 1.4v it passed prime95 but then on grid racer it showed a white screen that faded quickly for 3 seconds [13:27] I can never overclock greatly, lots of issues hapened with my 2500 xp too [13:33] fichero: overclocking is off topic here. try #hardware === pizzaiolo is now known as pizza === pick is now known as pickanick [13:45] https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/athlon-xp-2500.c91 [14:15] effendy: tnx, I also found 2 names \2xd in the name like so: /usr/lib/systemd/system/system-systemd\x2dcryptsetup.slice and /sys/fs/cgroup/system.slice/system-serial\x2dgetty.slice which looks odd to me [14:22] Will it work to have, in /etc/apt/sources.list , two entries of each type? will apt use the first one that works or will it downlead from each entry? are there any problems with having multiple entries? [14:32] pickanick: you want to add multiple ppa's for the same package or different packages? [14:35] enyc: I'm going to answer the question you've been cross-posting ALL OVER THE PLACE (against guidelines/rules). Kubuntu. Really any flavor with KDE's Plasma Desktop such as Kubuntu or Ubuntu Studio can accomplish what you're trying to do and has the theming probably for it, but you're not going to be walked through it or handheld. [14:35] !guidelines | enyc [14:35] enyc: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [14:42] How do I find out when (date) a system was updated from one version of Ubuntu Desktop to another? [14:44] zetheroo2, iirc, /var/log/dist-upgrade/ [14:48] zetheroo2, but , if you still have it, you can do : ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list.distUpgrade [14:49] OK! [14:49] Eickmeyer: I don't think thats fair, I've had power failure and lost history, probably asked cinnamon or deskop and realized may be in wrong place discovered flavors another day reconnecting everything, first person to give me a hint, at all. -packaging is a completely different point following suggestion from ubuntu+1/next and deriv-distro too upstream point... I'm used to helping-out or indeed [14:49] asking in debian- subchannels and -x -arm -admin -security and so-on that have been well-received , when I've askde for a hint or pointer tend to find it after a while. [14:49] no need to get all capital-lettery [14:50] Eickmeyer: AHA Plasma which *looks* like there also in 22.04LTS similarly aah! Good point Thankyou will get that on test too. [14:51] is there a tool in ubuntu i could use to check which apps crashed besides the log at var? or is that one of the best ways to check [14:51] enyc: We have a guideline against re-posting. If you repeat, it's very likely nobody is going to respond and you repeated in there three times. Hence me getting annoyed and capital-lettery. [14:52] enyc: Either way, arguments are also off-topic. [14:54] fichero: if an app crashes ubuntu should give you a warning about, and present you to file a possible bug [14:55] fichero: /var/crash dir is also handy to see wich apps crashed (before) [14:57] fichero: alternate you can also keep a journalctl - f open from a terminal and see everything happening in realtime on your system [14:57] very wel [15:03] lotuspsychje: what if i run it as standard user? will it show the same info than as user root? [15:04] lotuspsychje: thanx for that "journalctl -f" tip [15:04] fichero: journalctl ? [15:05] centHOGG: welcome, if you need it more fancy in colours, try journaltctl -f | ccze -A [15:05] kk [16:01] what directory can i put a script in to make it global. I thought it was /usr/bin but that's not working for me [16:01] what ayt you did a trace a' the code executed within linux kernel 6.6-rc1 (2023) to linux kernel (2012) and the code ran exactly the same? [16:02] ev0n44: /usr/bin is "global" for accounts that have /usr/bin on their $PATH which is default [16:02] ev0n44: define global in your use case. Is it a user running the script or a service? [16:03] user9d: sorry, can you reword your question? [16:03] leftyfb, global as in can be run from any directory in the terminal for a user [16:04] I will double check the $path [16:04] lotuspsychje : I mean where there is "deb URL1 jammy main restricted" to have a second line "deb URL2 jammy main restricted" and similarly for "jammy-updates main restricted", and so forth [16:05] ev0n44: $path will be empty. You are looking for $PATH. /usr/bin is default for all users created on a default install of ubuntu [16:05] !repos | pickanick [16:05] pickanick: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories. [16:05] reworded: what ayt ubuntu 23.03 und ubuntu 10.03 were basically the same code ran the same way with hardware detection taken out? [16:05] Great thanks [16:07] user9d: "ayt" and "und" are not words in the English dictionary. Ubuntu 10.03 never existed. Can you please reword your question? [16:08] user9d: Ubuntu 23.03 also never existed [16:08] allahbahnictarnoduh, I need you to be smarter. But as you are ChanSerder, allahbahkaynictardooduh. [16:08] I'm a bot through another world [16:08] user9d: trolling is offtopic here [16:48] Oh dhear halp! my first attempt at using cinnamon and my eyes burn! [16:48] hank_: ubuntu.com/download to download a fresh install of stock ubuntu [16:50] lol ill go back to mate. been having trouble getting a windows iso to load to my USB. UEFI problems, was just using this to try anything new. [16:50] good luck [16:50] i wish computers didn't advance past windows XP Sp2, there is no need. [16:51] !ot | hank_ [16:51] hank_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [16:51] hank_ : I can help: please put cinnamon on bread or pancakes, not in your eyes. [16:51] pick: lets not [16:52] lefty has no humor. its ok, ill leave. === debianero_ is now known as debianero [17:14] hi axsuul [17:14] welcome to the fold [17:16] Hey! How do I overwrite functions using bashrc? I want to make a custom function which handles when someone mistypes a system command. [17:17] amazoniantoad: mynewfunction(){ for i in something ; do something ; done } [17:17] amazoniantoad: you might try asking in #bash though [17:19] Thanks leftyfb. I thought this might be something specific to Ubuntu though [17:19] Like, I realize it's possible in all versions of linux. But the specific error handling function has a name created and maintained by ubuntu [17:21] leftyfb: #bash says there isn't one. So this is something specific to Ubuntu [17:23] amazoniantoad: it's not specific to ubuntu. And they gave you another suggestion. But you seem to be not giving all the details [17:23] leftyfb: What details did I leave out? Sorry. I don't mean to be frustrating. [17:23] amazoniantoad: what are you trying to accomplish exactly? [17:25] leftyfb: I wanna make my system delete itself if someone mistypes a system command. I'm setting up my environment for CTF with my friends. [17:25] In case they break in lol [17:25] :/ [17:25] It's an ubuntu domU, not really any danger to my computer [17:25] amazoniantoad: good luck with that [17:26] thanks! [17:51] hi. i ran an internet speed test on my ubuntu and on my mac, one after the other, both on the same network, neither having a vpn on. ubuntu's avergae 35 mbps, while the mac averages 588 mbps. why on earth is my ubuntu's wifi comparatively so slow? [17:51] drivers and potentially the chipset. It's different hardware [17:51] ubuntu averages* [17:52] leftyfb, is there anything i can do about this?? [17:53] i'm using a thinkpad x1 carbon, gen 9 [17:53] mesa_no_exdis: try sudo iwconfig $(ls /sys/class/net/wl*) power off [17:53] see if that makes a difference [17:54] leftyfb, iwconfig: unknown command "address" [17:54] mesa_no_exdis: sudo apt instal wireless-tools [17:55] succeeded. still getting the error i wrote above [17:55] after turning off power save? [17:56] through the command you wrote? [17:56] or manually? [17:56] mesa_no_exdis: sudo apt install wireless-tools && sudo iwconfig $(ls /sys/class/net/wl*) power off [17:57] wireless-tools is already the newest version (30~pre9-13.1ubuntu4). [17:57] iwconfig: unknown command "address" [17:59] ah riht [17:59] mesa_no_exdis: try sudo iwconfig $(ls /sys/class/net/|grep ^wl) power off [18:00] seems to have taken. now what? [18:00] now run your speed test [18:01] 30 mbps [18:02] any other ideas? [18:03] mesa_no_exdis: https://github.com/jeremyb31/wireless-info run that and pastebin the output [18:04] mesa_no_exdis: cd ; wget -N -t 5 -T 10 https://github.com/UbuntuForums/wireless-info/raw/master/wireless-info && chmod +x wireless-info && ./wireless-info | nc termbin.com 9999 [18:05] one thing to consider: if you're on 5ghz on mac and 2.4ghz on ubuntu, then ubuntu will be slower since 5ghz has higher speeds, naturally. [18:05] mesa_no_exdis: hold on, wrong command [18:06] mesa_no_exdis: cd ; wget -N -t 5 -T 10 https://github.com/UbuntuForums/wireless-info/raw/master/wireless-info && chmod +x wireless-info && ./wireless-info && cat wireless-info.txt | nc termbin.com 9999 [18:06] pragma-, for sure. but the ubuntu's on the same 5ghz network as the mac [18:06] why type cd first? [18:06] oh, to go into a writeable home directory [18:07] * pragma- gestures at cd /tmp [18:10] can anyone help out a newb install something? I'm trying to get CHRIP to install on 22.04 but I cant get the .whl file to work [18:11] Jagaimo: I can't find "chrip" in the ubuntu apt repo's nor snap. You'll have to reach out to the program vendor for support [18:13] would you happen to know how do download a .whl file? I'm using brave and the site dosen't download the install file it just opens up a window which looks like wingdings to me [18:13] leftyfb and pragma-, is there a section of the wireless info that you're looking for? [18:13] Jagaimo: try wget? [18:14] mesa_no_exdis: please paste the termbin.com URL here [18:14] I don't know why anybody would continue using Brave after they got caught injecting nefarious things into websites. [18:14] @pragma I didnt know that what browser would you recommend also do you have a source? [18:15] firefox works just fine [18:15] Jagaimo: sure, there are dozens of sources if you google "brave injecting into websites". I use Firefox. [18:15] If on Android, XBrowser is great. [18:17] thanks! [18:31] hmm, guess he was paranoid about us hacking his wifi :p [18:42] I have ubuntu server installed with just a terminal. How do I get it to automatically start startx on startup? [18:43] ubuntu server does not come with any of that [18:43] if you dont install a desktop environment there is no command to run [18:43] ravage, I install xorg and openbox already. Just need it to start on boot [18:43] ev0n44: why do you need a GUI on a server? [18:44] leftyfb, I chose ubuntu server because I am creating a single purpose system to log into VMs. I was told ubuntu server would be a good place to start with just a terminal [18:45] I installed xorg and openbox so I could run virt-viewer on it [18:45] ev0n44: I would just install xubuntu [18:46] leftyfb, don't want any other services or apps installed at all. Just want a single purpose system [18:47] I have everything working. Just want openbox to launch on boot [18:47] ev0n44: https://www.linode.com/docs/guides/start-service-at-boot/ [18:47] though you want the service to be added as a --user [18:48] leftyfb ah yes I should have known i would have to use systemd [18:48] Thanks [19:02] Hello, I'm installing ubuntu22.04 on a MSI Gt70 laptop. I got some trouble while installing. Now it's installed and I must add dis_ucode_ldr to the kernel for make it boot. Can I stay with that, what's the disadvantage of keeping that? === sylvain_ is now known as sylvain31 [19:06] sylvain31: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1831789 but it looks like that is a recovery for a failed microcode update so?? [19:06] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1831789 in grub2 (Ubuntu Groovy) "Add 'dis_ucode_ldr' to linux boot options for Recovery Mode" [High, Fix Released] [19:07] i would check for a BIOS update first [19:13] toddc, ravage, OK Thanks. Let me read a bit more about that parameter. This is an old computer BIOS is from 2014, there's some upgrade possible on MSI website it seems. 🤷 [19:27] ev0n44: I took the following approach: https://ostechnix.com/ubuntu-automatic-login/ and then (optionally) added startx at the end of .profile. [19:30] ev0n44: I do not suggest using .profile to autostart applications on boot nor do I suggest making your machine automatically login [19:31] about: dis_ucode_ldr kernel parameter, The Intel Github issue, linked to the launchpad issue, seems to mention it could be related to the CPU. On this laptop lshw gives: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4810MQ CPU @ 2.80GHz the newer BIOS seems published by 2015, https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GT70-2PC-Dominator/support [19:31] sylvain_: step #1 upgrade BIOS. Then continue troubleshooting if necessary === sylvain_ is now known as sylvain31 [19:53] any of you who happens to know that when using mksquashfs with "-wildcards -ef /path/exclude.list" if that exclude.list can contain comments # or is it strictly one file/dir per row to be removed ? [20:18] Apachez, man page says: -ef EXCLUDE_FILE [20:18] list of exclude dirs/files. One per line. [20:18] yeah so no comments supported then? [20:18] I would say it wont accept comment. [20:19] but could be achived with bash stdin <() trick though [20:25] leftyfb, BIOS update seem did the trick dis_ucode_ldr remove from grub kernel parameter and the PC did boot. [20:38] \o/ [20:38] Though, trying the USB key installer is still failing on non-safemode ending after timeout on "Failed to Start Ubuntu Live CD installer." [20:40] but you have it already installed? [20:44] ravage, Yes, the OS was installed by passing to safemode at the first time, right. [20:45] If I edit the grub kernel and add nomodeset on the USB key install, it boot to graphic chooser "Try Ubuntu" from the key. [20:47] sylvain31: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 boot to grub hit shift add no modset option enter continue to install/test after install liook for addl drivers [20:53] toddc, petty old but still interesting thread. Now that I've some experience with reluctant hardware I would say this is a very good helper. [20:56] the nomodeset option and dis_ucode_ldr are now present in the safemode alternative in the USB key default choice. 👍️ [21:02] does the apt packaged in 22.04 support deb822-style sources? [21:12] I am performing a backup of Ubuntu Linux and the backup has seemed to halted with the message of "Creating first backup. This may take a while." How do you backup Ubuntu Linux with results like these? === pasiz35 is now known as pasiz3 [21:15] Guest10: I use rsync [21:22] https://askubuntu.com/questions/1485720/gphoto2-cant-see-usb-camera-after-recent-apt-update-apt-distro-upgrade [21:26] https://askubuntu.com/questions/1485720/gphoto2-cant-see-usb-camera-after-recent-apt-update-apt-distro-upgrade === EriC^^_ is now known as EriC^^ === ozzloy__ is now known as ozzloy [23:13] udev update has broken ubuntu's ability to import photos in digikam, gphoto2 can no longer see usb camera, entangle can no longer see camera. any one know how to fix? [23:14] !bug | pasjrwoctx [23:14] pasjrwoctx: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [23:22] Got a USB webcam here that suddenly (as-of yesterday morning) detected on my ubuntu system. I plug it in and don't even see it show up in dmesg. Yet it works perfectly on a windows 10 machine. [23:22] I've tried multiple USB ports (which all work with other devices in them by the way) and it's the same [23:24] lenswipe: try another usb port on the same computer? a live linux cd on the other computer where you have windows 10? [23:24] gry, tried that already, this webcam is supported by linux because it worked like 2 days ago [23:25] lenswipe: if it's working in a linux somewhere today, may make sense to get it identified. on the linux computer which identifies it ok, visit www.h-node.org click Search, scroll down, follow instructions in the last textbox [23:27] gry, i only have 1 linux machine and it's not working on that [23:27] lenswipe: do you have a usb? can you do a live linux usb on the other machine? [23:27] the linux machine or the win10 machine? [23:28] lenswipe: linux live usb on the windows 10 machine [23:29] I'm kind of debating a re-install at this point tbh because first my internal webcam stopped working (weird IPU6 nonsense form dell), then the external webcam I started using also stopped working [23:29] the former just shows a black picture, the latter is just not detected at all [23:29] lenswipe: well, another option is to do a live linux usb on the linux machine. [23:29] both _USED_ to work and the former stopped working after a kernel update [23:29] lenswipe: the idea is to try at different machines to understand whether it's the usb port that's faulty, or the software (i.e., the OS). [23:29] yeah, might try a live usb on the linux machine and see if that works [23:29] gotcha [23:30] lenswipe: I wouldn't come to conclusions until and unless all of the testing is done [23:30] sure, but i think it's the OS because it works fine under windows [23:30] it also flapped up briefly yesterday and worked for half a day [23:30] lenswipe: Which version? yy.mm [23:30] !yy.mm [23:30] Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle [23:31] Eickmeyer, which kernel? [23:31] oh, which ubuntu version? 22.04 [23:31] Thought so. [23:31] oh? [23:31] Is/was that a problematic release? [23:31] Recent systemd update seems to be causing headaches with USB cameras/webcams. [23:32] Not everyone or all are affected, but some. [23:32] oh, lovely. is there a patch in the pipeline? and/or do you have a bugzilla link to send to my boss? [23:32] Someone was in here earlier, and the Ubuntu Studio twitter feed got someone asking. [23:32] Sadly, no, just anecdotes so far. [23:33] hmm, that's a shame [23:33] at least I know I'm not going mad [23:33] I've got bug 2035406 so far. [23:33] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 2035406 in systemd (Ubuntu) "udev update has broken ubuntu's ability to import photos in digikam, gphoto2 can no longer see usb camera, entangle can no longer see camera" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2035406 [23:33] udev is a component of systemd. [23:34] since you're here - another PITA is that my employer recently switched to SSO/SAML auth for VPN. This meant I had to abandon networkmanager-openconnect and use the official cisco client instead which is....****ing garbage. It flaps up and down and makes zoom calls basically impossible while on the VPN. Supposedly there is/was a fix in the works but idk if/when that is (or has) made it to Ubuntu. [23:34] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2035411 [23:34] -ubottu:#ubuntu- bugzilla.redhat.com bug 2035411 in Fedora "NetworkManager-openconnect doesn't support SAML/SSO logins" [Unspecified, Closed: Errata] [23:34] Do you happen to know? [23:35] No clue on that. [23:35] ok no worries [23:35] The systemd/udev issue just happens to be on my radar, but beyond my scope. [23:35] yeah [23:35] do you know where I could go to find out more about the AnyConnect thing? [23:37] sidenote: why is it that Enterprise software (with the capital E like ORACLE, Cisco etc.) is a GIGANTIC pain in the arse to work with [23:37] Wouldn't know. The only enterprise software I really work with is Ubuntu. :joy: [23:37] 😂 [23:37] As far as AnyConnect, I don't really work with it. [23:38] lucky you [23:39] i used to be able to use the openconnect plugin for network manager, but that seemingly doesn't work with SSO based VPNs [23:40] Oof. It works very well with my TPLink router. [23:43] lenswipe: If you haven't already, please go to bug 2035406 and click the yellow button next to "Does this bug affect you?". [23:43] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 2035406 in systemd (Ubuntu Jammy) "udev update has broken ubuntu's ability to import photos in digikam, gphoto2 can no longer see usb camera, entangle can no longer see camera" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2035406 [23:44] I've already marked it as "Confirmed" but I'm bugging the person who did the last upload. === lenswipe2 is now known as lenswipe [23:45] Eickmeyer, i'm sure....but I doubt your TPLink router is doing SAML/SSO based VPN ;) [23:46] it works great with my Ubquiti APs and EdgeRouter too [23:46] lenswipe: Ha! No, it's not. [23:46] also, I shit on Cisco a lot but I have a 2960 downstairs running things and it's actually great [23:46] I also have a 3750 but I don't use it much because it sounds like a jet engine taking off [23:46] lenswipe: Careful with the language, and we're straying off-topic in this support chat. We do allow children in here. [23:46] fair [23:47] My son, for instance, contributes to Edubuntu. [23:47] oh wow is that still a thing? [23:47] More like, it's back after 9 years. My wife leads and I provide tech leadership.