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| sil2100 | o/ | 15:01 |
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| ogayot | o/ | 15:01 |
| zhsj | o/ | 15:01 |
| bdrung | \o | 15:01 |
| mateus-morais | o/ | 15:02 |
| dviererbe | o/ | 15:02 |
| upils | o/ | 15:02 |
| bdrung | #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team | 15:02 |
| meetingology | Meeting started at 15:02:59 UTC. The chair is bdrung. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 15:02 |
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| bdrung | #topic Lightning rounds | 15:03 |
| bdrung | #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-14-sep-2023/38635 | 15:03 |
| bdmurray | With the -security pocket fix will that end up in the jammy version of the snap? | 15:04 |
| mclemenceau | o/ | 15:04 |
| bdmurray | ogayot: ^^ | 15:04 |
| ogayot | bdmurray: when the snap is promoted to latest/stable, it should | 15:05 |
| bdrung | bdmurray, looking at https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/autopkgtest/+git/development/+merge/450971 - jq will be much better at parsing json and spitting out what you want | 15:05 |
| bdmurray | bdrung: Yes, see the line above. We are just sorting out issues installing jq in the charms... | 15:06 |
| ogayot | or a more specific channel if there is one for jammy - but the intention is indeed to have a refresh available for jammy | 15:06 |
| bdmurray | I just don't want to have to think about this in February | 15:06 |
| adrien | \o | 15:06 |
| adrien | zhsj: I love OCaml :) | 15:07 |
| bdmurray | waveform: Started filling out release notes for mantic - yeah \o/ | 15:07 |
| zhsj | adrien: 😯😯 | 15:08 |
| schopin | zhsj: if that's about the ocaml thing, it's oddly popular among French programmers, because it's widely used as a teaching language. | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | I wish discourse would tell me the bug title on mouseover | 15:12 |
| bdrung | all finished reading? | 15:16 |
| adrien | zhsj: I don't have much time to checkout that and debug it but overall the debian ocaml team is very good; I'd be surprised this isn't already noticed and planned | 15:17 |
| zhsj | adrien: same error in debian, and liquidsoap has been removed testing. Debian bug #1042099 | 15:19 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Debian bug 1042099 in src:liquidsoap "liquidsoap FTBFS: Error: This expression has type ... but an expression was expected of type" [Serious, Open] https://bugs.debian.org/1042099 | 15:19 | |
| zhsj | actually it's no longer problem for nbs, as it has been removed from mantic-release. i'm just on an old nbs.html when i did the work | 15:20 |
| vorlon | upils: discourse pointedly reminds me to say welcome :) | 15:22 |
| upils | thanks :) | 15:22 |
| bdrung | zhsj, you mentioned https://code.launchpad.net/~zhsj/ubuntu/+source/libevent/+git/libevent/+merge/451102 which is not sponsored yet but it does not appear on https://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ | 15:22 |
| schopin | bdrung: he pinged us directly in -devel | 15:23 |
| vorlon | upils: could be helpful if you give us a realname mapping in your IRC client and discourse profile | 15:23 |
| adrien | zhsj: unfortunately the debian release schedule is not the same as ours :'( I'd need to checkout the sources and build myself which I can maybe do tomorrow | 15:24 |
| zhsj | adrien: awesome | 15:25 |
| bdrung | #topic Release incoming bugs | 15:27 |
| bdrung | #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 15:27 |
| bdrung | bug #2034986 | 15:27 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2034986 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "some text became unreadable during a distribution upgrade" [Critical, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2034986 | 15:28 | |
| bdmurray | vorlon suggested I report that | 15:28 |
| vorlon | \o/ | 15:28 |
| vorlon | longstanding issue where fonts go wonky after things are upgraded on disk | 15:29 |
| vorlon | my 10,000ft suspicion is that it's triggered by the update to the system fontconfig cache | 15:29 |
| vorlon | but I don't really *know*; I just know that it's a recurring issue | 15:29 |
| bdrung | I have seen such behaviour on upgrade in the past as well | 15:30 |
| vorlon | if we can put some time into investigating it this cycle, that will serve us for 24.04 | 15:31 |
| vorlon | because if it happens on 23.04->23.10 it will also happen on 22.04->24.04 | 15:31 |
| bdrung | I agree that we will expect that bug to appear on 22.04->24.04 | 15:33 |
| bdmurray | I also agree it should be sorted | 15:33 |
| vorlon | ok let's take it \o/ | 15:34 |
| bdrung | next: bug #2033440 | 15:36 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2033440 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Mantic) "ubuntu-desktop: unnecessary hard 'Depends: pipewire-audio'" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2033440 | 15:36 | |
| vorlon | that's a desktop team decision | 15:36 |
| vorlon | also, it's targeted to mantic | 15:36 |
| vorlon | so the tag should be cleared | 15:36 |
| vorlon | also I would wontfix it if it were me | 15:37 |
| bdrung | it targets lunar and mantic. | 15:37 |
| bdrung | leaving it for the desktop team (ubuntu-meta is in their list as well) | 15:38 |
| vorlon | ok there's ambiguity about whether removing the tag drops it from the desktop team's incoming queue | 15:38 |
| bdrung | next: bug #2034759 | 15:39 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2034759 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "riscv64 and generic preinstalled images use default ubuntu:ubuntu user where no other images do" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2034759 | 15:39 | |
| vorlon | there was clarification that they set a default l/p but disable ssh password authentication | 15:40 |
| vorlon | and in fact I thought riscv64 was worse that pi but it was the other way around :) | 15:41 |
| sil2100 | +1 on that. I'd love us using ubuntu-image for riscv64 images too | 15:41 |
| vorlon | anyway I think this is not actionable for mantic | 15:42 |
| vorlon | because "make riscv64 as good as pi" was what I meant and there's nothing to be done | 15:42 |
| vorlon | I'm fine to just close it invalid | 15:43 |
| sil2100 | Would like to revisit this for nn though | 15:43 |
| vorlon | sil2100: I think we need to sink with local-optimum before we could commit to anything | 15:44 |
| vorlon | sink? | 15:44 |
| vorlon | sync | 15:44 |
| sil2100 | Let's do that :) I might forget though..! | 15:45 |
| vorlon | it's basically only solvable if we integrate console-conf (or equivalent) + give users a good UX for preseeding | 15:45 |
| vorlon | which is out of scope for livecd-rootfs | 15:45 |
| waveform | I should add some context in that bug (the livecd-rootfs bits haven't been used on the pi for a loooong time now; our defaults for that have been set in the cloud-init seed) | 15:45 |
| sil2100 | waveform: it's all in the raspi-settings package, right? | 15:46 |
| vorlon | waveform: please do | 15:46 |
| vorlon | bdmurray: next? | 15:46 |
| vorlon | eh | 15:46 |
| vorlon | bdrung: next? | 15:46 |
| sil2100 | Ah, I guess in the gadget..? | 15:46 |
| waveform | no -- most of the hacks from livecd-rootfs migrated there, but the initial authentication settings have been in the cloud-init seed (from the gadget) for yonks | 15:46 |
| bdrung | next: bug #2034986 | 15:47 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2034986 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Mantic) "some text became unreadable during a distribution upgrade" [Critical, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2034986 | 15:47 | |
| bdmurray | We talked about that. | 15:47 |
| bdrung | yes | 15:48 |
| bdrung | #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ll-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 15:48 |
| bdrung | nothing there for us | 15:48 |
| bdrung | but there are three under unknown | 15:49 |
| bdrung | for timidity, virtualbox, and marco | 15:49 |
| vorlon | we can take that out of band and follow up with the taggers that they're following a process that won't work for them | 15:50 |
| bdrung | #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 15:50 |
| vorlon | (I'll do that) | 15:50 |
| bdrung | bug #1990798 | 15:51 |
| bdmurray | heh, one is tagged champagne | 15:51 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1990798 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "do-release-upgrade fails if ESM enabled" [Critical, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1990798 | 15:51 | |
| bdrung | it is incomplete and with pro team, skip | 15:52 |
| bdrung | #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 15:53 |
| bdrung | nothing for foundation, but 13 in unknown category | 15:53 |
| bdrung | #topic Team proposed-migration report | 15:53 |
| bdrung | #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs | 15:53 |
| * bdrung hands over the baton to vorlon | 15:54 | |
| liushuyu | I can probably take one proposed-migration | 15:54 |
| vorlon | s390-tools*: MIR. schopin, is this still on your todo? | 15:54 |
| schopin | There aren't that many to take :) | 15:54 |
| schopin | vorlon: yes :) | 15:54 |
| vorlon | ginggs isn't here to make cards for us, but maybe you want to make one manually for tracking if you don't already have one? | 15:55 |
| vorlon | llvm-toolchain-15 is "just" waiting for a riscv64 build, nothing to do | 15:55 |
| schopin | I might actually have several -_- | 15:55 |
| vorlon | haha | 15:55 |
| vorlon | glibc is blocking linux-raspi-meta, I'll take a look at that | 15:55 |
| vorlon | done | 15:55 |
| vorlon | bdrung: | 15:55 |
| bdrung | #topic AOB | 15:56 |
| bdrung | zsh 5.9-5 FTBFS on i386. Someone could look at that. | 15:56 |
| vorlon | any volunteers? | 15:57 |
| liushuyu | I can take a look | 15:57 |
| bdrung | undefined reference to `fmod' | 15:57 |
| liushuyu | (probably another fp math issue?) | 15:57 |
| adrien | ah, doko pushed an update to strace but I'm surprised he didn't hit the same build issue as I did | 15:57 |
| bdrung | Speak now or forever hold your peace. | 16:00 |
| ogayot | adrien: the changelog entry says: "New upstream version, fixing FTBFS". So maybe he did? | 16:00 |
| bdrung | 3 | 16:01 |
| bdrung | 2 | 16:01 |
| bdrung | 1 | 16:01 |
| bdrung | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 16:01:31 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-09-14-15.02.moin.txt | 16:01 |
| adrien | ogayot: the ftbfs was "expected" for all arches due to the new kernel and I think that's what he's refering to but then I also had a build issue specifically for arm64 (which I had on LP builders and pi4) | 16:01 |
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