[00:02] friends can some1 answer my calendar question? === tomaw_ is now known as tomaw [00:02] is ubuntu calendar app 100% offline and confidential or is there a risk [00:03] I don't use yahoo or live or google calendar cuz then i figur [00:03] fichero: to the best of my knowelge it is 100% offline [00:05] fichero: I assume you could share the calendar and or sync it but by default it is local only unless modified [00:21] toddc: ok [01:10] leftyfb, What does this mean? "user@bigdell:~$ systemctl --user enable ~/.config/systemd/user/openbox.service [01:10] Removed /home/user/.config/systemd/user/multi-user.target.wants/openbox.service. [01:10] Created symlink /home/user/.config/systemd/user/multi-user.target.wants/openbox.service → /home/user/.config/systemd/user/openbox.service. [01:10] user@bigdell:~$ systemctl --user start ~/.config/systemd/user/openbox.service [01:10] Failed to start home-user-.config-systemd-user-openbox.service.mount: Unit home-user-.config-systemd-user-openbox.service.mount not found." [01:10] especially that last line [01:41] nvm === chris14_ is now known as chris14 [01:59] Hi folks! [01:59] Got a strange problem that has popped up. Running the latest, with all updates. This is a dual-boot system (also win 10), but rarely used. [02:01] For some reason, the sound stops working, and settings shows 'Dummy Output' for the Output Device. Is there a way, without rebooting, to get sound back? [02:01] No other device is listed under Output Device. [02:05] I found a solution, per se, "pulseaudio -k && sudo alsa force-reload", but what about a fix? === Guest70 is now known as user9d === Guest23 is now known as user9d [03:11] where's my money #ubuntu I dedicated my myness to making sure I had good ubuntu backgrounds to make me look good but school was too hard. I should get a gold medal with my time doing ubuntu. [03:19] user9d: agreed [03:32] what ayt Ich don't like Ubuntu? [03:33] my recommendation: "try an EOL ersion a' ubuntu" === ubuntu is now known as Guest2682 === Guest2682 is now known as zi3lak [05:03] Hi, anyone able to help me change my Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Desktop network setup? My KVM pfSense is going to passthrough the WAN NIC. At the moment I'm bridging to the KVM gateway. === remy_ is now known as Remy [07:27] hello, I have problem, [07:27] I reinstall ubuntu-server with software raid1 partition, [07:27] and mount my Data partition, but then no data. [07:27] can i get advice? [07:27] could you help me please? [07:30] !ask | eli [07:30] eli: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [07:31] as soon as smeone sees it and has a recommedation they will reply === GreenRio- is now known as GreenRiot [10:42] hi [10:47] Hello, hello I have the following problem : when I do click shutdown in LogOUT window Menu under xfce4 [10:47] instead of shutting down it ask for logging in [10:47] it shows avaliable users as if the system was start a new ... why is that ? [10:47] * andymccall (~andymccal@82-71-62-199.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) has joined [10:47] upps ^_^ [11:07] Im trying to remove a logo from a video with ffmpeg but I cant find the logo position to use the command: fmpeg -i Vladigerov\ Rhapsody.mp4 -vf "delogo=x=10:y=100" out.mp4 [11:08] I mean these dimensions "delogo=x=10:y=100" [11:08] can someone help? [11:09] [delogo @ 0x55818d2d7400] Option w was not set. [11:09] [AVFilterGraph @ 0x55818d2dd940] Error initializing filter 'delogo' with args 'x=10:y=100' [11:10] how to I find the correct args for the logo position on the video [12:04] I installed whipper from the 22.04 repo. Should it have a config file installed along with the bin? [12:06] Hi all [12:10] suspicious [12:11] !!!@41#r === ord is now known as quem [12:40] FKAShinobi, check 'dpkg -L whipper' [14:31] hello [14:31] welcome qitisgilk [14:41] Hi folks - Do we agree this is the best way to install Java on a fresh server? https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-jre#3-installing-oracle-hotspot-jre [14:51] Zed`, not sure if update-alternatives sets the path environment variables, but you can do it later [14:52] ah very helpful - thank you [14:58] I installed LXDM but it's no login screen is starting on boot. The service is running but can't figure out why the login screen isn't showig up. [14:59] ev0n44, is lxdm installed and running ? [14:59] ioria yes i instaled it and systemctl says it's running with no errors [15:00] ev0n44, try to switch to tty and start it again [15:02] ioria, the command systemctl start lxdm does nothing [15:03] ev0n44, sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target; sudo systemctl enable lxdm [15:04] i remember it buggy, btw [15:05] It's weird because I sinstalled on 2 other laptops before with no problem [15:05] ev0n44, maybe replace it with something else [15:05] ok I will try GDM next [15:05] that's why is buggy, otherwise would be only 'broken' [15:11] iora, installed slim but half the screen is shifted to the left lol [15:24] can someone check snap jami? it fails to start... and its often recommended in the software center [15:27] ioria, tried slim and gdm3 with no success. Can you recommend a good display manager please? slim starts up shifted off screen to the left and gdm3 just brings up a purple screen [15:27] dust: support for jami is at; https://forum.jami.net [15:27] why is it recommended in software center? [15:27] dust: a lot of snaps have external developers, so the volunteers cant help much on those [15:31] ev0n44, remove gdm and try to reconfigure lxdm [15:36] dammit same problem. It just loads openbox automatically. no login screen [15:39] openbox ? .... do you have a .xinitrc set ? [15:39] ioria I don't know what that is [15:40] ev0n44, how does openbox start ? [15:40] hi all [15:41] ioria, good questions. I think I may no what the problem is. One sec [15:43] does also mean you have autologin (in some way) enabled [15:44] ioria, so openbox isn't a service so I don't know why its autostarting [15:44] ev0n44, ls -al ~ [15:46] ioria https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cdC9zhmVgP/ [15:49] ev0n44, what kind of installation is that ? [15:49] ubuntu server legacy [15:50] ev0n44, and did you install lxde on it ? [15:50] ioria, no. openbox [15:51] ok [15:51] and it auto starts without a tty login ? [15:54] ioria yes [15:55] well, that's disturbing [15:56] ioria, yes it is. [15:57] ev0n44, did you set tty autologin ? [15:57] ioria, I don't know how to do that [15:58] ev0n44, ok, create a newuser; sudo adduser testuser and reboot [16:08] ioria, i tried uninstalling all DMs. openbox does not start automatically without a DM installed. [16:08] Going to reinstall lxdm now [16:11] ioria, I just get a black screen with a mouse pointer when i boot [16:11] maybe it's not openbox booting [16:11] auto starting that is [16:27] ioria, tried SDDM and that DM worked [16:34] Just upgraded this computer and open-ssh was being snotty. Had to delete the dpkg info.. Was getting "installed openssh-server package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1" That's like the second time Open-ssh went shitty on a routine update/patching on this machine - Any thoughts on what gives? [16:35] last time somehow the config got messed up and it changed my custom ssh port [16:35] drove me crazy - I could not connect to it for a few days hehe [16:36] Zed`: you woould need to provide way more information from the machine at time of the error for anyone to do any troubleshooting for you [16:36] heh I hear you.. [16:36] just that the last time I did a routine apt update/upgrade openssh did not play nice [16:37] last two times* [16:37] this machine is fairly new (read: fresh) - I built it in april [16:38] not worth going crazy - just wondered if something came top of mind - like Oh yeah - everyone knows that "this thing has been an issue" [16:38] Zed`: I manage well over 20k devices running Ubuntu, servers and desktops, Ubuntu 20.04 and 22.04. None have ever had you issue in the 6 years at this company. Nor the ~4000 at my 2nd to last company running Ubuntu. We would need more information at the time of the error in order to properly troubleshoot. Anything else is based on assumptions and doesn't help anyone [16:39] Well then there ya go [16:39] I am just lucky ha [16:39] I manage this one (a personal machine) and two at work [16:39] Zed`: if you run into it again, please come here and pastebin the command you ran along with the full error [16:40] and also post the ubuntu release, kernel and the package source [16:40] package source being which repo it's being installed from [16:40] yeah it was just update and upgrade and the error I pasted above I fixed it with... [16:41] rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/open-ssh* | dpkg --configure -D 777 open-ssh | apt -f install [16:42] nbd - just strange that the last two updates messed with ssh [16:43] if you just delete that script that does not fix the error and it will probably fail again on every update [16:43] Zed`: ( cat /etc/os-release ; uname -a ; apt-cache policy openssh-server ) | nc termbin.com 9999 [16:50] Zed`: I do not know of any package in Ubuntu called "open-ssh" [16:53] leftyfb: sorry got workstracted and the command gives an error - here is the output https://hastebin.com/share/odekiludup.makefile [16:53] uh [16:53] boo [16:54] did not work one sec === ord is now known as quem [16:54] you either did something very wrong with the command or something is very wrong with your machine [16:54] -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `|' [16:55] Zed`: echo $SHELL [16:56] it's bash [16:57] you're missing the ( at the beginning [16:57] Zed`: ( cat /etc/os-release ; uname -a ; apt-cache policy openssh-server ) | nc termbin.com 9999 [16:57] https://pastebin.com/raw/PDtmrXJv [16:57] that works [16:58] https://termbin.com/6wbq [16:58] there's your problem [16:58] that's neet too [16:58] you're using a 3rd party repo for your entire OS [16:58] digitialocean is not an official ubuntu mirror [16:59] indeed [16:59] there's no telling what modifications they're doing to packages [16:59] That's fair [17:00] I suppose there are some good reasons such as drivers and whatnot [17:00] I have kept my machines there for years and they are extremely reliable [17:01] except when they're not [17:01] let me ask this.... If there were certain packages I wanted to update with official repositories is there an easy way to do that? [17:02] Zed`: I can't speak to what would happen if you added the official repo's to a distro based on a 3rd part repo other than "nothing good can come from that" [17:05] I agree.. I am asking is there a method in which I could specify for a particular program for example. Irssi I noticed was a rev behind and I wondering why. That must be it. I did not investigate too hard.... [17:07] Otherwise I can ask their support what the effect of changeing will be [17:38] I've managed to install ubuntu on my machine. After getting the "no irq handler" error I was able too boot with safe graphics and install ubuntu. However, I'm not able to boot into ubuntu since I get the same "no irq handler" error only this time I have no option to boot with safe graphics as it goes straight to that window [17:38] also, I get a lot of "usb descriptor not found" errors too [17:39] unable to enumerate usb decive [17:39] btw I have UEFI BIOS [17:39] but I've enabled CMS [17:39] !nomodeset [17:39] Systems with certain graphics chipsets may not boot properly out of the box. "Temporarily Add a Kernel Boot Parameter for Testing" as discussed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters to add the "nomodeset" parameter there. [17:40] Siamaster91, try to boot with the nomodeset parameter, as above ^ [17:43] Ok. I'm gonna try ESC to get into GRUB, hope it works [17:44] it worked :D [17:45] But hmm [17:45] I may have pressed too many times? [17:46] I think I got into Bash [17:46] some kind of Bash [17:46] can I exit that? [17:46] ioria, I think i figured this out. The problem I think was that I've connected to a portable monitor to a laptop with no LCD panel but linux is still displaying the main screen on the LCD panel that doesn't exist. [17:47] ev0n44, i see [17:47] ioria, how do i turn off the LCD panel in the terminal? [17:48] ev0n44, with xset or something similat,i think [17:50] Siamaster91, that's probably the 'grub shell' not what you're looking for [17:50] yes. I got into that [17:50] can I exit that? [17:50] You know what's really weird? I Just thought I had deleted Windows but writing exit from that shell brought me to Windows [17:50] wow [17:53] I was not able to run Recovery on it, but atleast I got the chance to save the cd key :D === remy_ is now known as Remy [18:09] ioria I'm not able to get to that window, it goes to grub shell immediately [18:10] I only pressed ESC once this time [18:10] Maybe I should try SHIFT but I have UEFI but have enabled CMS settings [18:12] Siamaster91: try shift, or try pressing esc in the grub shell maybe itll take you back to the menu [18:13] That work. I think god is finally forgiving me for something [18:13] but then could this problem be because I have enabled CMS settings? [18:13] Maybe if I go back to only UEFI, it will just enter without problems? [18:14] no idea about irq handler stuff [18:14] I was so lucky I was able to get into windows by writing exit in the GNU shell [18:14] unbelievable [18:14] I got into windows and grabbed my CD key from cmd [18:14] so happy :D [18:15] because BIOS was not detecting windows anymore, I thought all was gone [18:15] sounds good [18:15] what do you need the cd key for? doesnt windows pull it from the motherboard? [18:16] (im about the reinstall windows 11 myself) [18:19] I had accidentally installed ubuntu on the same drive [18:20] I thought I had formatted the drive but apparently it was installed along it but I was not able to run Recovery anymore on Windows, got some error that something was not found [18:20] Thanks for fixing my issue [18:23] I have a crucial m.2 - I loaded it on another motherboard - id like to put it on this motherboard - what changes should be made - or - should I just re-install - thanks. [18:23] how the heck to i disable that auto-update for snaps? This is the sort of crap I hate in Windows. These notifications every couple of days to close my various apps because they have been refreshed is terrible. [18:24] any ideas? Proper update is done when I run it (usually once a week on the weekend) [18:24] my OS should not be doing it in my face when I need to actually use my machine. [18:28] xamindar: https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/11/turn-off-automatic-updates-snap-apps/ [18:28] It's kind of strange....Ubuntu is actually pretty awesome when used as a server OS (with no gui), but it has to be the worst Linux Desktop experience I have ever had in my life. [18:30] Rocky25: awesome, thank you. I tried googling around but kept finding ways for one snap at a time using "--devmode" or somesuch. [18:30] no worries [18:32] Im just here to give the help a run - for free pizza. [18:32] The help deserves - free - pizza. [18:32] end. [18:33] Thanks! I was able to boot into ubuntu with nomodeset [18:34] but what is it really? Why do I need it? Is it just a temporary solution or is it okay to keep going like this? === ord is now known as quem === bad_1 is now known as badbodh [18:36] Its friday - everyone is out [18:36] G`Day. [18:36] end. [18:38] Thanks! I was able to boot into ubuntu with nomodeset [18:38] but what is it really? Why do I need it? Is it just a temporary solution or is it okay to keep going like this? [18:42] Siamaster22: do you have a newish nvidia card? [18:43] Hi there, I did a profoundly stupid and could use some help [18:46] Hmm after applying nomodeset once, I don't need to do it anymore. But it bothers me that it takes so long to boot into ubuntu [18:46] I set my default grub option to 2, which is memtest (I thought was "more options" to choose another kernel), and when the memtest finishes, it reboots back to memtest, since the timeout is 0. So I'm in an endless memtest boot loop [18:48] I can get to a grub shell if I press escape during boot, but since my install is encrypted, I can't do any of the usual things to set linux and initrd and boot from the grub prompt. I booted into recovery, but that was an initramfs that I didn't really know what to do with, since it doesn't have cryptsetup [18:51] Does anyone know how to boot into an encrypted Ubuntu 23.04 install from the grub prompt? [18:52] oac: boot with a live usb, mount and decrypt your filesystem and fix the issue === ord is now known as quem === debianero_ is now known as debianero [19:05] oac: holding down Shift during booting does not work? [19:06] even with 0 timeout it should bring up the menu [19:07] leftyfb: Thanks, I thought of that too, but the only grub.cfg I see is in EFI/ubuntu/grub.efi, and if I recall it was in /etc/grub/grub.cfg before ? [19:07] Regardless, should I chroot to the mounted root partition and then run update-grub? Or will that not work? [19:08] oac: you don't modify grub.cfg, you're only supposed to mess with /etc/default/grub and then update grub [19:09] oac: yes, but don't forget https://blog.coffeebeans.at/archives/263 [19:09] Ahhh I was misremembering. Excellent, thank you. [19:10] And update-grub from within that should be fine? [19:10] I mean an arch ISO chrooted into ubuntu? [19:13] HELP ME [19:14] I NEEEED SOME IT [19:14] !details | Beauregard8 [19:14] Beauregard8: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel. [19:15] I am setting up my Gmail account on my computer's thunderbird mail application, but I don't know how to enter a chat room in the IRC function. Could anyone help me with that? [19:15] NIckserve is not helping. [19:16] Beauregard8: what does setting up a gmail account in Thunderbird have to do with using the IRC client built into Thunderbird? [19:16] Anyone active here? [19:16] I was just looking into all the functions it has, and I want to try engaging in some chat function while my emails load. [19:16] Beauregard8: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/instant-messaging-and-chat [19:17] I guess not. [19:17] Beauregard8: you're on IRC now [19:17] (This is the first time using Thunderbird) [19:17] jefred: what can we help you with? It's pretty silly asking if "anyone active here" in a channel with 1024 people in it [19:17] I must go now. Thanks! [19:18] Yeah, this is my first time too. Tried it before but nothing was being said/written. [19:18] jefred: it's a support channel. If you want non-support chat, feel free to /join #ubuntu-offtopic [19:19] Silly? Really? It's my first time here I saw all these people and nothing being being said/written. [19:19] OK I got it to work. [19:19] jefred: that means there wasn't any support being provided the moment you joined [19:19] Now I'm Gone! I have to go do Bible study. [19:21] jefred: irc tends to be a bit "asynchronous". You come, you ask your question and then you wait patiently for an answer. [19:23] leftyfb: One other thing... there were some path problems so I'm looking directly at /usr/sbin/update-grub. It calls `grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg`, but /boot/grub doesn't exist on my system, the only grub.cfg in my system is /boot/EFI/ubuntu/grub.cfg [19:23] oac: you need to mount it [19:24] before and as part of your chroot [19:24] I didn't see it on any of my partitions (which I know should be wrong) [19:24] where is it mounted from? [19:25] cd /boot [19:25] Sorry. I have by boot partition mounted at /boot, but it only contains EFI/ [19:26] oac: you either have /boot as part of your root partition or you have a separate partition for just /boot. One or the other [19:26] no, it sounds like you mounted your EFI partition to /boot which you're not supposed to do [19:27] ahhh, that would make sense [19:27] mount your /boot to /boot, then mount your EFI to /boot/efi [19:27] I only have /dev/nvme0n1p{1,2,3} where 3 is / and 2 is recovery. I have 1 mounted at /boot [19:28] I just have a default lunar install (with luks/lvm) [19:29] oac: ok, then it sounds like you mounted your EFI partition over the boot directory in your root partition [19:29] remove the mount, remount it to yourtarget//boot/efi [19:30] There's nothing in /boot after I umount [19:30] oac: you either have /boot as part of your root partition or you have a separate partition for just /boot. One or the other [19:30] And there wasn't before, hence why I mounted there in the first place [19:30] or you have a broken system [19:30] Right, well what else should be in /boot? [19:31] your grub files, kernels and initrd's [19:33] I see things like that in /dev/nvme0n1p2, is that /boot rather than a separate recovery? [19:34] Yeah that appears to be it [19:34] Sorry for the confusion === Vercas8 is now known as Vercas === spuk__ is now known as dsfasfads === dsfasfads is now known as Spuk [19:51] hi how can i make a bootable ubuntu lts with dd and maybe tweaking the iso cause just dding i get platform error before I see grub menu [19:52] i tried isohybrid but i got the iso doesnt have isohybrid signiture [19:52] oac: yes. There is no Ubuntu "recovery" partition [19:52] I want to install on a bios system [19:52] alistar: if you are on Ubuntu use the startup disk creator app [19:53] i am not on ubuntu [19:53] from windows use https://etcher.balena.io/ [19:53] i only got gentoo and sysrescue atm [19:53] https://github.com/balena-io/etcher/releases/download/v1.18.11/balenaEtcher-1.18.11-x64.AppImage [19:54] thanks ravage [19:54] dd should also work [19:55] alistar: what is the exact dd command you are using? [19:55] just dd and bs=4096 and no conv [19:56] make sure the iso is not damaged [19:56] alistar: ah, that's why. You need to give it the if= and of= [19:56] and "and" aren't valid parameters for dd [19:56] but etcher should be easy enough to use [19:56] leftyfb: sure [19:57] alistar: what is the exact dd command you are using? [19:57] dd if=iso of=/dev/sdx bs=4096 status=progress [19:58] ravage: i will try that but i am still intrested in doing what these softwares do manually. [19:58] alistar: what is the exact dd command you are using? [19:59] alistar: Ubuntu has never released an iso file called "iso" and unless you have 24 storage devices plugged in, /dev/sdx also isn't valid === ord is now known as quem [20:44] no way. checksum matches for latest ubuntu and used startup disk creator but I still get GRUB grub error can not find grub platform. [20:57] it worked by converting the gpt partition table to mbr with gdisk [21:17] Hello [21:18] I would like to know how you start a chat server. [21:18] Like, creating a chat room for my friends. === root is now known as Guest9772 [21:19] Hello?? [21:19] Ok, bye then. Ciao [21:23] Im back [21:25] Beauregard42: yes? [21:25] I'm just wandering around looking for someone to talk to. [21:28] Beauregard42: click here >> #ubuntu-offtopic << [21:29] I have '#ubuntu-offtopic' open. [21:36] thank you :-) [21:47] gry: huh, for the longest time i thought this grym user in #python was you on mobile, smh [21:49] hi, your observation is correct, that's not me; my mobile nick is 'gry', as i'm using quassel === the_football is now known as Neutron7 [22:38] Evening peeps! [22:39] wondering what is the easiest way to move my entire Ubuntu OS to a new drive? whilst keeping everything intact? [22:49] need to figure out what time people are active here [22:51] Bottle0fWater: I am active at random times. [22:53] #ubuntu-offtopic [22:53] goto [22:53] Beauregard42: that's not where people go for support [22:53] Bottle0fWater: when did you install ubuntu? [22:54] I know. It's the offtopic place, just for normal conversation. Only tech support here. [22:55] Bottle0fWater: My laptop came with linux mint back when I got it 2 years ago. [22:56] Beauregard42: I am still on Ubuntu 20 [22:57] recently upgraded the system, so would love to move over to my new drive which is a NVMe M.2 [22:57] Bottle0fWater: Hm. I don't remember what version of Linux I have. [22:58] Bottle0fWater: I highly recommend installing 22.04 on your new drive, copy over your files from your home directory and reinstall your applications [22:58] I'll see about it. [22:58] leftyfb: I tried that but didn't work to be honest [22:59] Bottle0fWater: define "didn't work" [22:59] Brave browser is right pain in the neck, Mozilla browser restores fine though [23:00] so basically, I backed up using Déjà Dup Backup Tool and restored the system on the new drive [23:00] Bottle0fWater: don't [23:00] oh [23:00] ok [23:00] just backup your files [23:00] Yeah. Some websites would not work with the adblocker on, for Brave. [23:00] use rsync [23:00] My source drive is 256gb and the destination is 1 TB? [23:00] would that be ok with Rsync? [23:01] So, I just downloaded the associated programs, and ran them in Wine. [23:01] Beauregard42: can we help you with something? [23:01] Bottle0fWater: I recommend just copying your files from your backup [23:01] Bottle0fWater: Do you have a disk drive hardware copy device? [23:02] I am afraid not, no [23:02] leftyfb: I just have a USB stick I put my files on. Leftyfb, I'm just looking for someone to talk to about something. [23:02] Bottle0fWater: oh, you don't have a backup? [23:02] Beauregard42: that's what #ubuntu-offtopic is for [23:02] leftyfb: sorry I was distracted by the other guy [23:03] leftyfb: I do have the Original drive with me [23:03] Bottle0fWater: step #1 setup a proper backup [23:04] Bottle0fWater: in the meantime, you can use your original drive to copy the files [23:04] Bottle0fWater: install ubuntu 22.04 from scratch, copy over your files and reinstall your apps [23:05] leftyfb: thanks, what should I use for a proper backup? [23:05] sorry to be naive here [23:06] Bottle0fWater: there's lots of applications to do that. Peronally, I just use rsync to copy the contents of my home directory [23:06] Bottle0fWater: software choices are up to you. Try out a few and decide what works best for you [23:07] Bottle0fWater: lvm [23:07] leftyfb: I have TimeShift installed [23:07] scottpedia: lvm is not a backup solution [23:07] scottpedia: nor is zfs [23:07] leftyfb: why not? [23:08] leftyfb: does lvm not offer backup functionality? [23:09] scottpedia: first off, lvm is for expanding space with additional storage. There is no recovery option. And neither lvm nor zfs addresses the issue of your pc getting lost, stolen, destroyed in a fire or a corrupt hard drive [23:09] scottpedia: no [23:09] scottpedia: lvm is for creating logical volumes, potentially across multiple storage devices [23:09] you MIGHT be thinking about RAID [23:10] but RAID is also not a backup solution [23:10] leftyfb: https://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/snapshots_backup.html [23:10] it's drive redundancy and in some cases, helps with performance [23:11] leftyfb: ok I am on Rsync now [23:11] shall I use an external storage to copy files? [23:11] Bottle0fWater: preferably, yes [23:12] scottpedia: I wasn't aware of LVM snapshots. Regardless, it's not an adequate backup solution [23:12] oh rsync is not GUI? [23:12] Bottle0fWater: you can use grsync if you like [23:12] leftyfb: imo the lvm method of back-up is more efficient cause it's based on a snapshot model which only takes in what's changed [23:12] scottpedia: and does you no good in the even the drive is no longer accessible to you [23:13] even/event [23:13] and that's what i've been using for my server and desktop [23:13] leftyfb: you mean the original disk or the backup disk? [23:14] scottpedia: if your house burns down, floods or someone breaks into your house and removes your computers, how do you recover your data? [23:14] leftyfb: you find the backup disk stored elsewhere right? [23:14] which is not LVM [23:15] you purge the backup storage into under a physical volume and unplug it after the backup is done FKAShinobi [23:15] leftyfb: [23:15] it's just like any conventional backup solution would do... [23:15] that's called rsync, not LVM [23:16] the backup method is rsync, the data you're backing up is an LVM snapshot [23:16] you can do that in LVM too bro. or otherwise why would you call it a backup feature? [23:17] leftyfb: so in the source, am I selecting the whole drive as in / [23:17] or just the /home? [23:18] LVM does not have native network capabilities. And if you're referring to creating your snapshot volume on a separate drive and removing it, I'm not that familiar with it, but I'm pretty sure that machine won't boot if a piece of the LVM volume is missing [23:18] Bottle0fWater: personally I just backup /home [23:18] would this cover all the settings of Brave Browser? [23:18] hello, I mount my gdrive on ubuntu but if I make a symbolic link wiht ln -s to to a folder in the mounted gdrive it will display folders with weird names lke 712jkjasv3223 and not the actual names [23:18] Bottle0fWater: it should [23:18] this is the only most important thing for me [23:18] any ideas [23:19] leftyfb: yeah ideally to recover the system partition also, an additional machine is required in the process [23:19] if using LVM in the scenario you described [23:19] a Live CD/DVD would do the job as well tho [23:20] scottpedia: either way, we're offtopic now. I'm not suggesting to anyone to use LVM has a backup solution because it isn't [23:20]