[21:07] Eickmeyer: heya, just uploaded lsp-plugins 1.2.11 to unstable :) [21:09] ohh thats great!!! will test them! [21:11] cjdg: Likely not to land in Ubuntu until the repo opens for n-n. snd was talking about Debian. It's too late in the cycle for them to get in for mantic. [21:11] snd: Yeah, I got the upload email. Thanks! :) [21:18] im using debian also, [21:18] Oh, perfect then! So, it will be in unstable if you wish to test. [21:19] I might even be able to create a special testing PPA if we really want to get dirty for Ubuntu. [21:19] thats the one im runing [21:19] Excellent. [21:20] unfortunally, one of the packages im using, sonic pi, only works with debian unstable [21:21] Does sonic pi not work on Ubuntu? [21:21] nope [21:21] * Eickmeyer blinks [21:22] actually takes a little bit to make it work on debian desktop [21:23] at least no with non lts, specially if you use pipewire [21:23] and right now, im not going back from pw [21:23] In mantic (if you're testing) you should be able to disable pipewire-jack using Ubuntu Studio Audio Config on-the-fly. [21:24] Then use pure JACK using qjackctl. [21:27] yes but being honest, i love a lot pw [21:27] XD [21:28] It's only a matter of time until pipewire-jack gets the kinks worked out and becomes fully-compatible. [21:30] right now for the pis I use jack, and desktops only pw [21:30] mostly because openframeworks, processing, pd and supercollider packages depends a lot of jack [21:31] but being honest, im quite more than happy with pw on desktops [21:32] and hope it lands soon on raspbian, it works well on armbian [21:32] I use pipewire most of the time. I route most of my audio through a computer dedicated to running Harrison Mixbus (a downstream derivative of Ardour) and control the mix via a Behringer X-Touch. If I have to use it as a DAW, I have a USB switch to switch it to my main computer. [21:34] do you have any recomendation for multi input/output soundcards? [21:34] i need for a project to have at least 6i/6O but want a linux compatible one [21:34] I use a Behringer UMC404HD and also have a Behringer UM204. They work great. [21:35] Anything that is class-compliant (works with a Mac) should work out-of-the-box since they're driverless. [21:37] Overall, I've had great luck with Behringer. [21:38] wow i was looking at the ones you had [21:38] they have great features [21:38] being honest [21:38] And they're inexpensive. [21:38] maybe will return to behringer [21:39] Behringer has a bad reputation from their past, but when MusicTribe bought Midas they upped their game. [21:39] yes i had that, but being honest [21:39] many stuff made from behringer worked amazing [21:40] snd: > Mention that the hurd build still not work *giggle* [21:40] i have the bcd3000, als o the bcr2000 [21:40] and they still work! and like new [21:41] plus yesterday i bought one bigfoot an u1 mics [21:41] and i was surprised about the quality and the price [21:41] not even m-audio had that quality [21:42] There's this mentality in the industry that more money = better quality, and that's simply not true. Also, people liked to get on Behringer for copying other products and selling for cheaper, but that's just business and competition. [21:45] here in mexico we have 2 famous music schools, fermatta and g martell, and they promote to their students to buy the most expensive stuff, but all their music sounds soo flat, and then found what people is doing with almost nothing, [21:47] its kinda sad that a lot of people believes that having a very expensive macbook makes you an artist, but if you came with a pi, they kinda doubt you can do something of quality [21:47] an even, in many projects, they ask you "do you have an apple product"? for giving you a job === cjdg is now known as cjdg_d === cjdg_d is now known as cjdg [21:49] thanks for the recomendations man, have to leave, kids want to eat, see you later [21:49] Ok, have a good evening! [21:50] thanks, today is mexico independence, and kids want me to make pozole [21:50] XD [21:50] NICE! [21:50] so there is a lot of work to make the soup! [21:51] see ya! [21:51] o/